[News] Game Recap: Ravens 27, Eagles 26

[BR News]

The Ravens could have slammed the door early, but let the Eagles back in with a late interception. Baltimore pulled it out with a two-point conversion stop in the closing seconds.

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[law215]

This team absolutely refuses to run the darn ball. Almost a 3rd game lost by stupid decision. Then Peterson going for 2 and the Bungles blowing a huge lead at home.

Its like I said before. The Ravens are flawed from coaching to front office and players, but so are the other teams in the NFL.

Now it on the Steelers with everything on the line. Merry X-mas

[CQ1]

The Ravens should have left the door open and just handed Philly the game. And NO- I'm not to just sit here living in la-la land like a good handful of you 'delusional' Raven fans-. You know who you are.
That was one of the worst offensive play calling- or audible calling (either way-both are probably culpable) games I have seen- especially, given the way the game was going and, or how we are fighting a playoff spot.
Good luck in Pittsburgh- sarcastic, or not.

[bluehen]

I am probably one of Joe's biggest fans, but who the hell were you throwing the ball to on that interception! You are going to have to crank your game up on Christmas day. What happened to our offensive line in pass protection? Also, what happened to our run defense? On the Eagles last drive, we just let their QB sit back (with little pressure) and wait till a receiver came open.

And let's not forget penalties, either

Let's just say that this is one that the Eagles let get away

[The Mom Gene]

I didn't understand that pass ha was intercepted when we just needed to run th clock down and keep pounding. I get the idea to try and score once more, but there was plenty of time left for that. I will not blame any one segment of the team in this game. This entire team was hot and cold today. at least we came out with the "w".

[billiejean]

fusuyumada I hope you were able to see John Urschels two plays at center when Zuttah went down. He got absolutely demolished on both of them. Though, to be fair the second one was a screen and as an OL you are supposed to get demolished on screens. The first was a run in which he got driven back as soon as the ball was snapped about 7 yards into the backfield. We definitely got lucky this game but I'll take it. I hate to do this to Suggs but I gotta call him out. The guy was spying on the QB when Wence ran it into the endzone and he totally gave up on the play. The angle isn't great so i can't tell if he would have been able to make the tackle but it would have been close.

[callahan09]

That interception looked ugly as hell. The only thing I can think of is that Waller was supposed to cut horizontally across the field at the spot where he cut up diagonally. If that was the route he was supposed to run, then it looks like Joe's decision to throw and the placement of the throw might have been correct. Because if that's NOT the case, then the decision and the throw make abslutely NO sense. Personally, I'd give the benefit of the doubt to Flacco over Waller. Waller is an inexperienced player who wasn't on the active roster for a significant portion of the offseason & season, so him running the wrong route seems more likely to me. But this is why football is such a difficult game to analyze. How are we as fans supposed to know what happened on that play? But after trying to figure out why Flacco threw that horrible looking pick, it appears to me that if Waller had cut directly horizontally across the field rather than diagonally, it might have been a completion, and that the only explanation that makes any sense to me is that Waller ran the wrong route.

[pocket]

8 minutes ago, The Mom Gene said:

I didn't understand that pass ha was intercepted when we just needed to run th clock down and keep pounding. I get the idea to try and score once more, but there was plenty of time left for that. I will not blame any one segment of the team in this game. This entire team was hot and cold today. at least we came out with the "w".

No. "At least" is never allowed to be used in pro sports. He always throws an interception at the wrong time. Points should have been had there. Save the cultural rhetoric for your twitter feeds. 

Edited December 18, 2016 by pocket

[JamesA119]

That interception looked ugly as hell. The only thing I can think of is that Waller was supposed to cut horizontally across the field at the spot where he cut up diagonally. If that was the route he was supposed to run, then it looks like Joe's decision to throw and the placement of the throw might have been correct. Because if that's NOT the case, then the decision and the throw make abslutely NO sense. Personally, I'd give the benefit of the doubt to Flacco over Waller. Waller is an inexperienced player who wasn't on the active roster for a significant portion of the offseason & season, so him running the wrong route seems more likely to me. But this is why football is such a difficult game to analyze. How are we as fans supposed to know what happened on that play? But after trying to figure out why Flacco threw that horrible looking pick, it appears to me that if Waller had cut directly horizontally across the field rather than diagonally, it might have been a completion, and that the only explanation that makes any sense to me is that Waller ran the wrong route.

I don't buy your attempt at one more excuse for an underachieving QB

[ravens4life86]

Couple things
1) What in the world happened to the Run Defense?!!! Unacceptable.
I dont know maybe Pierce isnt getting enough reps or the fact Zdarius Goid run stopper/edge setter has been on the bench for more versatile player and pass rushers like Dum and Judon, but activate Z.Smith, activate Urban., get those big boys up front clogging gaps no reason with our depth and talent up front teams like Jets&Eagles should be cracking 100 rushing on us.

2) Same old story just a different week, Marty&John..
Im glad John took responsibility for awful pass call in redzone with 4-5 minutes left.. run the ball. At worst kick FG and ice the game being up 13

[BigUgly]

Joe's sack that took us out of FG range and the pick cost us 6 points, and kept Philly in the game.  Still unable to establish the run against bad teams, and that defense looked gassed.  Something's gotta improve for Christmas (and for the Bengals game).

[billiejean]

I didn't understand that pass ha was intercepted when we just needed to run th clock down and keep pounding. I get the idea to try and score once more, but there was plenty of time left for that. I will not blame any one segment of the team in this game. This entire team was hot and cold today. at least we came out with the "w".

The play calling towards the end was baffling. We must have had a lot of confidence in our defense (I am not sure why) the way our last offensive drive was called. I get that we were trying to be safe run the clock and try not to turn it over, but we really didn't make any legitimate attempt at getting that first down. It would have made more sense to me if we were on the 50 but we were pinned back and gave them good field position which they capitalized on.

[objective view]

If this was our .... Max Effort, All on the line, Know what we have to do effort .... we are in deep deep fecal matter!

[JamesA119]

  15 minutes ago, The Mom Gene said:

I didn't understand that pass ha was intercepted when we just needed to run th clock down and keep pounding. I get the idea to try and score once more, but there was plenty of time left for that. I will not blame any one segment of the team in this game. This entire team was hot and cold today. at least we came out with the "w".

The play calling towards the end was baffling. We must have had a lot of confidence in our defense (I am not sure why) the way our last offensive drive was called. I get that we were trying to be safe run the clock and try not to turn it over, but we really didn't make any legitimate attempt at getting that first down. It would have made more sense to me if we were on the 50 but we were pinned back and gave them good field position which they capitalized on.

Agree with both of you. I think that the team especially the OC and the QB do not have a good sense of down and distance and where the game is most of the time.

[The Greek]

  16 minutes ago, The Mom Gene said:

I didn't understand that pass ha was intercepted when we just needed to run th clock down and keep pounding. I get the idea to try and score once more, but there was plenty of time left for that. I will not blame any one segment of the team in this game. This entire team was hot and cold today. at least we came out with the "w".

The play calling towards the end was baffling. We must have had a lot of confidence in our defense (I am not sure why) the way our last offensive drive was called. I get that we were trying to be safe run the clock and try not to turn it over, but we really didn't make any legitimate attempt at getting that first down. It would have made more sense to me if we were on the 50 but we were pinned back and gave them good field position which they capitalized on.

hey billiejean i cannot wait to read how you defend flacco,the receivers and the o-line after this crappy performance. the podium is yours!!

[callahan09]

11 minutes ago, JamesA119 said:

I don't buy your attempt at one more excuse for an underachieving QB

It's not an excuse, it's a search for an explanation on a ball that had no chance of being anything other than an interception.  And if you were to think honestly and look back at history, you'd have to acknowledge that this not a typical Joe Flacco type of interception.  He'll throw interceptions where a route got jumped, or he'll have an over/under/behind/in-front of off-target throw, right?  But this throw was none of those things.  It was just completely targeted to a spot where no receiver was running a route to.  These are typically what we call "miscommunications" so that's the most obvious explanation, right?  If you re-watch the play, you can see how if Waller ran a horizontal cut on that route instead of diagonal, then the throw actually starts to make sense.  So, that's *a possibility* for what happened on that play.  Rather than just calling it an "underachieving QB" why don't you watch the play and come back at me and explain how there is no possibility that this was anyone's fault but Flacco's, for X/Y/Z reason(s)?  I'd love an actual discussion, rather than dismissal with no actual argument.  I think that's fair.

[The Greek]

  16 minutes ago, The Mom Gene said:

I didn't understand that pass ha was intercepted when we just needed to run th clock down and keep pounding. I get the idea to try and score once more, but there was plenty of time left for that. I will not blame any one segment of the team in this game. This entire team was hot and cold today. at least we came out with the "w".

The play calling towards the end was baffling. We must have had a lot of confidence in our defense (I am not sure why) the way our last offensive drive was called. I get that we were trying to be safe run the clock and try not to turn it over, but we really didn't make any legitimate attempt at getting that first down. It would have made more sense to me if we were on the 50 but we were pinned back and gave them good field position which they capitalized on.

why would you be safe with a qb that makes 120 mil. he sucked today and stop defending him. morningweg went into safe mode which still almost cost us the game because flacco and the receivers are inept. receivers still run routes that make no sense on 2nd and 3rd downs.

[TheConquerorWorm]

  17 minutes ago, JamesA119 said:

I don't buy your attempt at one more excuse for an underachieving QB

It's not an excuse, it's a search for an explanation on a ball that had no chance of being anything other than an interception.  And if you were to think honestly and look back at history, you'd have to acknowledge that this not a typical Joe Flacco type of interception.  He'll throw interceptions where a route got jumped, or he'll have an over/under/behind/in-front of off-target throw, right?  But this throw was none of those things.  It was just completely targeted to a spot where no receiver was running a route to.  These are typically what we call "miscommunications" so that's the most obvious explanation, right?  If you re-watch the play, you can see how if Waller ran a horizontal cut on that route instead of diagonal, then the throw actually starts to make sense.  So, that's *a possibility* for what happened on that play.  Rather than just calling it an "underachieving QB" why don't you watch the play and come back at me and explain how there is no possibility that this was anyone's fault but Flacco's, for X/Y/Z reason(s)?  I'd love an actual discussion, rather than dismissal with no actual argument.  I think that's fair.

The throw was to SSS on a slant. SSS was well covered (so much so, you don't even really see him in the replay. Hicks made a good play by faking the blitz and falling back.

[billiejean]

That interception looked ugly as hell. The only thing I can think of is that Waller was supposed to cut horizontally across the field at the spot where he cut up diagonally. If that was the route he was supposed to run, then it looks like Joe's decision to throw and the placement of the throw might have been correct. Because if that's NOT the case, then the decision and the throw make abslutely NO sense. Personally, I'd give the benefit of the doubt to Flacco over Waller. Waller is an inexperienced player who wasn't on the active roster for a significant portion of the offseason & season, so him running the wrong route seems more likely to me. But this is why football is such a difficult game to analyze. How are we as fans supposed to know what happened on that play? But after trying to figure out why Flacco threw that horrible looking pick, it appears to me that if Waller had cut directly horizontally across the field rather than diagonally, it might have been a completion, and that the only explanation that makes any sense to me is that Waller ran the wrong route.

It was just a bad decision. The ball was intended for Steve Smith who was running a deeper cross. He was covered really well but it did't matter because Hicks was playing zone and just read Joe's eyes which led him to the ball.

[sami]

Seems to me everyone is forgetting we have to win at the Bungles place or the Pittsburg game doesn't matter.

[TheConquerorWorm]

That interception looked ugly as hell. The only thing I can think of is that Waller was supposed to cut horizontally across the field at the spot where he cut up diagonally. If that was the route he was supposed to run, then it looks like Joe's decision to throw and the placement of the throw might have been correct. Because if that's NOT the case, then the decision and the throw make abslutely NO sense. Personally, I'd give the benefit of the doubt to Flacco over Waller. Waller is an inexperienced player who wasn't on the active roster for a significant portion of the offseason & season, so him running the wrong route seems more likely to me. But this is why football is such a difficult game to analyze. How are we as fans supposed to know what happened on that play? But after trying to figure out why Flacco threw that horrible looking pick, it appears to me that if Waller had cut directly horizontally across the field rather than diagonally, it might have been a completion, and that the only explanation that makes any sense to me is that Waller ran the wrong route.

It was intended for SSS on a slant in the end zone.

[JamesA119]

  18 minutes ago, JamesA119 said:

I don't buy your attempt at one more excuse for an underachieving QB

It's not an excuse, it's a search for an explanation on a ball that had no chance of being anything other than an interception.  And if you were to think honestly and look back at history, you'd have to acknowledge that this not a typical Joe Flacco type of interception.  He'll throw interceptions where a route got jumped, or he'll have an over/under/behind/in-front of off-target throw, right?  But this throw was none of those things.  It was just completely targeted to a spot where no receiver was running a route to.  These are typically what we call "miscommunications" so that's the most obvious explanation, right?  If you re-watch the play, you can see how if Waller ran a horizontal cut on that route instead of diagonal, then the throw actually starts to make sense.  So, that's *a possibility* for what happened on that play.  Rather than just calling it an "underachieving QB" why don't you watch the play and come back at me and explain how there is no possibility that this was anyone's fault but Flacco's, for X/Y/Z reason(s)?  I'd love an actual discussion, rather than dismissal with no actual argument.  I think that's fair.

I appreciate your view. On the replay it appeared that he had made up his mind that he was going to Steve Smith. The problem was that that route that Steve smith ran was sniffed out pretty early and he had no chance, and yet Flacco threw it.

[The Greek]

This team absolutely refuses to run the darn ball. Almost a 3rd game lost by stupid decision. Then Peterson going for 2 and the Bungles blowing a huge lead at home.

Its like I said before. The Ravens are flawed from coaching to front office and players, but so are the other teams in the NFL.

Now it on the Steelers with everything on the line. Merry X-mas

o-line is too inconsistent and flacco is below avg thus far running the offense. i pray he wakes up on xmas and gives us the best light show we have ever seen. maybe the receivers will show up and not drop passes as well

[btfan2]

Lets get honest this is not a good team. Once again they showed up completely unprepared. Really bad.

We need an "O" line coach. I know, guys hurt, people moving around but; come on this was pathetic.

Joe was hot and cold mostly cold, the "D", was horrible and Pees and Morningwig go right back to horrible play calling.

I can't imagine any team losing to this team. They are so Vanilla, you don't even have to game plan for us. Every week just the same thing over and over. We didn't beat Philly. They embarrassed us in every phase except kicker. They did us one big favor. They knew even if they won they weren't going to the playoffs so why not practice.

Disgusting!

[TheConquerorWorm]

Horrible play call and an equally horrible throw by Joe. But it's the defense that almost blew another game for us (after blowing the Oak & NYG game).

Letting Philly run the ball down your throat against the #1 rush defense to score twice - that's even more horrendous than Joe's INT.

[b93333]

Joe's usual two turnovers... resulting in both Philly scores.

Edited December 19, 2016 by b93333
Didn't finish thought

[PersianRaven]

The Ravens should send the Eagles some Xmas presents for handing us the game. This season, we have only played one game in which we were consistent in all 3 phases. Yep, you guessed right, vs. the Dolphins. Next week is win or go home and if we are planning to play like we have played all season (except that Dolphins match), we are in for a treat!! Them Steelers and their Terrible Towels are going to be ready. Oh, and Cincy played very well today and will probably have the Raven Killer (AJ Green) back for week 17. Lord help us lol

[The Greek]

Joe's usual two turnovers.

garbage play as usual

[TheConquerorWorm]

14 minutes ago, JamesA119 said:

20 minutes ago, callahan09 said:

  32 minutes ago, JamesA119 said:

I don't buy your attempt at one more excuse for an underachieving QB

It's not an excuse, it's a search for an explanation on a ball that had no chance of being anything other than an interception.  And if you were to think honestly and look back at history, you'd have to acknowledge that this not a typical Joe Flacco type of interception.  He'll throw interceptions where a route got jumped, or he'll have an over/under/behind/in-front of off-target throw, right?  But this throw was none of those things.  It was just completely targeted to a spot where no receiver was running a route to.  These are typically what we call "miscommunications" so that's the most obvious explanation, right?  If you re-watch the play, you can see how if Waller ran a horizontal cut on that route instead of diagonal, then the throw actually starts to make sense.  So, that's *a possibility* for what happened on that play.  Rather than just calling it an "underachieving QB" why don't you watch the play and come back at me and explain how there is no possibility that this was anyone's fault but Flacco's, for X/Y/Z reason(s)?  I'd love an actual discussion, rather than dismissal with no actual argument.  I think that's fair.

I appreciate your view. On the replay it appeared that he had made up his mind that he was going to Steve Smith. The problem was that that route that Steve smith ran was sniffed out pretty early and he had no chance, and yet Flacco threw it.

SSS slipped on his break, otherwise he was open in the endzone. Timing play that would have been a TD but Joe should have seen the LB falling back. It's a hard read for any QB in under 2 seconds.

 

 

Edited December 18, 2016 by TheConquerorWorm

[Obie]

Like I said before, if you play not to lose, you usually do, and, we almost did, again, the squealers will not be a problem, harbaugh , et al, will not be able to get the boys up for the bungles, then, all will be lost.