Steve Smith Tirade at practice

[Edgar]

12 hours ago, Edgar said:

Does Joe work extra after practice with receivers? He might but I don't remember ever hearing that he does.

Anyone?

Does anyone recall reading that Joe puts in after hours work with receivers?

[Tank 92]

23 minutes ago, reed20 said:

Flacco had 324 yards 2 TDs 1 INT. He was moving the ball down the field. It was the defense that gave up a huge play then couldnt get off the field when blount was getting the ball yet people blame Joe?

Defense and special teams lost this game.

Overall though we played one of the best teams in the league and made it competitive when it should have been a blow out.

He's also to blame for the 2008 housing market crash and the Syrian civil war. Not sure how he keeps his job.   

[RavensPunkXVX]

1 hour ago, reed20 said:

Flacco had 324 yards 2 TDs 1 INT. He was moving the ball down the field. It was the defense that gave up a huge play then couldnt get off the field when blount was getting the ball yet people blame Joe?

Defense and special teams lost this game.

Overall though we played one of the best teams in the league and made it competitive when it should have been a blow out.

I'm a supporter of Flacco, but those stats are deceiving. Those two TDs were set up because of our special teams, since you mentioned they lost the game for us. And he threw 52 times, he better break 300.

 

[K-Dog]

57 minutes ago, Edgar said:

Does anyone recall reading that Joe puts in after hours work with receivers?

I don't think he is allowed based on players union contract mumbo-jumbo. 

I could be wrong. 

[trevorsteadman]

9 minutes ago, RavensPunkXVX said:

I'm a supporter of Flacco, but those stats are deceiving. Those two TDs were set up because of our special teams, since you mentioned they lost the game for us. And he threw 52 times, he better break 300.

 

I'm a huge supporter of Flacco and I think he is one of the last people to blame for the Patriots loss... But I have to agree here. It was nice seeing the offense get two touchdowns off of two turnovers though.. Because we've seen it all before where the team completely loses it in the red zone. He threw 52 times but only because the Ravens trusted their short pass game more than their run game. The Patriots knew the Ravens were afraid of running the ball since it has been so inconsistent. Flacco is right the team needs to find its running identity before it will ever go anywhere in the playoffs. You aren't going to win many playoff games getting 6 yards a pass play. The Patriots dropped 8 back a majority of the time and Steve Smith and Mike Wallace were basically shut down. And the times Mike Wallace got open a few times he had a few drops and a ball go right through his arms and into Devin McCourty's arms. 

I don't mind Steve Smith showing passion in practice. Do you blame him? He is thinking this is his last season and the team is on the borderline of making the playoffs. And it sounds like something still isn't clicking in practice if Flacco overthrew him twice. I just really hope he carries over that passion and we see vintage Steve Smith the next 3 games. 

[Drew P]

I wonder if they practice check down tosses

[trevorsteadman]

25 minutes ago, Drew P said:

I wonder if they practice check down tosses

LOL 

[Rav'n Maniac]

29 minutes ago, Drew P said:

I wonder if they practice check down tosses

They must. It is our #1 play and takes up the majority of the offensive game plan. 

[Gorgee3]

15 hours ago, EdTheMythicalOne said:

Yeah, after Floyd got busted for a DUI.

A DUI is irrelevant to talent and skill

[January J]

14 hours ago, EdTheMythicalOne said:

I don't think so at all. Here is Steve Smith Sr. coming back from a horrible double Achilles tear, playing all out, giving max effort on every play and every down, and he's trying to go out like a champ, then here is stone faced Joe Flacco chucking the ball way over his head repeatedly. Steve Smith has a lot of passion. It doesn't always get displayed the proper way, but you can tell he cares. He busts his rump and Flacco just has that stoned face look on his face like he couldn't care less if he made the throw or didn't. Smith was probably already angry and then looking at a perceived nonchalant Joe probably pushed him further.

One of the announcers for the NE game said it perfectly. Joe Flacco is a flatliner. Same expression on his face all the time. John Elway used to have that weird horse tooth grin on his face even after he threw 3-4 interceptions in a game. That's just his normal expression.

To all the other people that think Smith was just mad at himself, the guy has a history of getting into fights with other people. Had that not been Joe; the starting QB, he was ticked off with he probably would have done some pushing and shoving and maybe even swinging.

Just to point out , gruden was using the term "flatliner" in a positive manner -  implying that he doesn't get rattled regardless of mistakes or score ..he will come right back and gash you if your not careful when you least expect it.

Edited December 16, 2016 by January J

[Militant X 1]

5 hours ago, Tank 92 said:

Excuses?  What excuses?  I merely said no one here knows what Smitty was pissed about. Could be that it was because he was overthrown. Could be that he's old and frustrated that he can't run like he used to. Could be that he burned his eggs that morning. Who knows? But just because a reporter, prior to even doing an interview with the guy, makes on assumption on why he feels a certain way it don't mean squat. They are paid to sensationalize even the most trivial of events, so like the players I am very leery about anything written as opinion. You know what they say opinions are like. hahaha

Maybe if he had waited to interview the guy and had written factual info from that interview it would mean something. But this? And unrelated really, but I know you don't need a reporter or article to form your opinion of Flacco's play because no matter what he does you would still think Tyrod should be starting in front of him. But as you said, that is for a different thread.   

Tyrod is my man and always will be.  Just like Flacco is obviously yours.  However, with that being said; there is not a post of mine when Tyrod was a Raven and "backup" QB to Joe Flacco where I said that Tyrod should start over Flacco in Baltimore.  On the contrary, I've always stated that the Ravens offensive style wasn't a good fit for my boy and his skill set and that I wanted him to go somewhere else.  So, don't mistakenly group my support of Tyrod with the bonafide Flacco-haters who were always calling for him to replace Joe when Joe played poorly.  Now....replacing Joe?  That's for another thread.  

Edited December 16, 2016 by Militant X 1
Wording

[Militant X 1]

32 minutes ago, January J said:

Just to point out , gruden was using the term "flatliner" in a positive manner -  implying that he doesn't get rattled regardless of mistakes or score ..he will come right back and gash you if your not careful when you least expect it.

Gash you with what JJ?  Check downs? 

[Tank 92]

1 hour ago, Militant X 1 said:

Tyrod is my man and always will be.  Just like Flacco is obviously yours.  However, with that being said; there is not a post of mine when Tyrod was a Raven and "backup" QB to Joe Flacco where I said that Tyrod should start over Flacco in Baltimore.  On the contrary, I've always stated that the Ravens offensive style wasn't a good fit for my boy and his skill set and that I wanted him to go somewhere else.  So, don't mistakenly group my support of Tyrod with the bonafide Flacco-haters who were always calling for him to replace Joe when Joe played poorly.  Now....replacing Joe?  That's for another thread.  

LMAO!  right.    

[reed20]

2 hours ago, Militant X 1 said:

Tyrod is my man and always will be.  Just like Flacco is obviously yours.  However, with that being said; there is not a post of mine when Tyrod was a Raven and "backup" QB to Joe Flacco where I said that Tyrod should start over Flacco in Baltimore.  On the contrary, I've always stated that the Ravens offensive style wasn't a good fit for my boy and his skill set and that I wanted him to go somewhere else.  So, don't mistakenly group my support of Tyrod with the bonafide Flacco-haters who were always calling for him to replace Joe when Joe played poorly.  Now....replacing Joe?  That's for another thread.  

Tyrod sucks.

[gtalk12]

4 hours ago, RavensPunkXVX said:

I'm a supporter of Flacco, but those stats are deceiving. Those two TDs were set up because of our special teams, since you mentioned they lost the game for us. And he threw 52 times, he better break 300.

 

Bradys 400 was deceiving because of 1 blown coverage play, otherwise we did a great job on him.....the how is irrelevant. I can not fault a team for taking advantage of a situation, it is what you are suppose to do. Flacco and company did not do a good enough job moving the ball down the field, every nice gain on the ground felt like it was negated by a holding call, how many times did they force Flacco into a 2nd and long or 3rd and long thanks to holding calls?

 

Special teams did what they were suppose to do, and injected life into Flacco and the offense and they took advantage.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

5 hours ago, Gorgee3 said:

A DUI is irrelevant to talent and skill

No, but it does show poor decision making ability and the penchant for not always being able to be on the field. Not a good way to build up confidence in the people that are paying you millions of dollars.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

4 hours ago, January J said:

Just to point out , gruden was using the term "flatliner" in a positive manner -  implying that he doesn't get rattled regardless of mistakes or score ..he will come right back and gash you if your not careful when you least expect it.

I know exactly how Gruden meant it but it works both ways. It gives off an sense that you just don't really care and nothing really matters to you. I've seen Joe celebrating plenty this year when things go right, so he's not as even keel as the myth has spread.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

6 hours ago, K-Dog said:

I don't think he is allowed based on players union contract mumbo-jumbo. 

I could be wrong. 

I remember him getting bashed for not having off season workouts with his receivers like a lot of other QB's do, especially in a season when he had a whole lot of new faces coming in to be presumptive starters.

[ravensnj]

On 12/15/2016 at 3:10 PM, RavensPunkXVX said:

Good for him. They need to be ticked off.

Hey, competitors expect to win every play, whether in practice or a game. The team is currently 7-6  and 12- 21 over the last 2 years. You think he's happy? I'm not! He's certainly not looking for a participation trophy, he want's the Ring! Flacco's game has been off and the O/C's play calling is horrible. Flacco is begging for more run calls and a no-huddle offense, which seems to have fallen on deaf ears. If you give Joe what he wants, I bet his play will excel.

Edited December 16, 2016 by ravensnj

[usmccharles]

1 hour ago, ravensnj said:

Hey, competitors expect to win every play, whether in practice or a game. The team is currently 7-6  and 12- 21 over the last 2 years. You think he's happy? I'm not! He's certainly not looking for a participation trophy, he want's the Ring! Flacco's game has been off and the O/C's play calling is horrible. Flacco is begging for more run calls and a no-huddle offense, which seems to have fallen on deaf ears. If you give Joe what he wants, I bet his play will excel.

Am I missing something here, 33 games in two years?

[RavensPunkXVX]

6 hours ago, gtalk12 said:

Bradys 400 was deceiving because of 1 blown coverage play, otherwise we did a great job on him.....the how is irrelevant. I can not fault a team for taking advantage of a situation, it is what you are suppose to do. Flacco and company did not do a good enough job moving the ball down the field, every nice gain on the ground felt like it was negated by a holding call, how many times did they force Flacco into a 2nd and long or 3rd and long thanks to holding calls?

 

Special teams did what they were suppose to do, and injected life into Flacco and the offense and they took advantage.

I'm not faulting the offense because of what the special teams did. I'm just saying prior to that, we were held scoreless, seemingly unable to move the ball into the red zone. I'm saying it was a very short field, not like he smoothly and methodically moved the team down the field. That's the deceit I was referring to. 

He was efficient, but was throwing those shorter routes, and it's not too difficult to miss those passes to your backs. He had a decent game, but if someone came up to me and said, "I saw Flacco had a pretty great night," Id argue the fact.

TDs and yardage don't really tell the tale, at least not for me. If you actually watch the game, you can be the judge of how well he played. Once again, I fully support Flacco, but his play wasn't that good.

[RayRayRaven]

18 hours ago, Halshayeji said:

We sure as heck watched the same game but we wore different glasses. I saw a D that played away at NE and held Tom Brady to 2 points per possession without our #1 CB most of the game. If our offense was able to sustain drives and only gave the ball to NE 8 or 9 times then they don't even reach 21 points. If you give Tom Brady 14 chances to make adjustments and attack your weakness then your asking for disaster. Sure we didn't get sacks because Tom regularly released the ball sooner than he wanted to and they punted the ball on a regular basis. The only 2 consistent players were Yanda and Dixon. 

And yes. It all starts in Phili! One game at a time and if we win we get an early playoff game at Pitt. Not much one can ask for. Let's keep our heads up

2 pts per possession? is that how we measure it now? we gave brady and the pats 14 chances?  is this the new math? I scratchin my head. how many chances does that mean we had? we had them +2 turnovers and still gave up 500 yards.   part of that was 2 muffed kicks where we got the ball again and they did not! How many yds would they have rolled up? doesn't that mean we had two more possesions than they did? if we gave them 9  possessions?......If if if if if if if if if if if if

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poz6W0znOfk

[ALPHA]

On 12/16/2016 at 4:38 AM, JoeCool1983 said:

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18284981/steve-smith-sr-baltimore-ravens-storms-field-practice

Apparently he ripped off his helmet and threw it 15 yards towards the end zone and booted a ball that was laying on the ground, after 2 straight overthrows by Flacco.  Smith, then walked to the corner of the indoor facility and sat by himself.  

Trouble for the Ravens?  Is our team falling apart?

We're a graveyard for receivers, they don't exactly come here to thrive.

[Bltravens]

I'd be PO'd too after watching that check down fiasco in the face of a 4 man zone blitz, a crappier scheme than what Pitt used to run for years under LeBeau, like Flacco hadn't seen it before.  The staff needs to stop pretending that Flacco is in the Rogers/Brees/Rivers category and just let him be what he is and letting him be good at that.  A QB that needs run game protection, that needs easy completions on the first two drives to get a rhythm, throw some deep shots in and work off play action.  Doesn't mean he's a bad QB but you're sure going to turn him into a middling one if he keeps dropping back 45 times.

[ravensnj]

6 hours ago, usmccharles said:

Am I missing something here, 33 games in two years?

My bad....12-17. But, what's the difference, we are below avg.

[Halshayeji]

5 hours ago, RayRayRaven said:

2 pts per possession? is that how we measure it now? we gave brady and the pats 14 chances?  is this the new math? I scratchin my head. how many chances does that mean we had? we had them +2 turnovers and still gave up 500 yards.   part of that was 2 muffed kicks where we got the ball again and they did not! How many yds would they have rolled up? doesn't that mean we had two more possesions than they did? if we gave them 9  possessions?......If if if if if if if if if if if if

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poz6W0znOfk

When you look at Defensive efficiency that's a very important stat. We allow the least amount of points per drive in the NFL and that's a fact. It just happens to be that we punt the ball more than most. Thus, this D has to make more stops than anyone in the NFL because our offense can't sustain drives. If this D played with a top 10 offense it would allow even less points than it currently does. And this D already allows the least PPG in the NFL

[EdTheMythicalOne]

11 hours ago, ALPHA said:

We're a graveyard for receivers, they don't exactly come here to thrive.

The one time TO didn't seem crazy is when he flat out refused to be traded to the Ravens.

[January J]

21 hours ago, Militant X 1 said:

Gash you with what JJ?  Check downs? 

Lol Good one

Edited December 17, 2016 by January J

[RayRayRaven]

7 hours ago, Halshayeji said:

When you look at Defensive efficiency that's a very important stat. We allow the least amount of points per drive in the NFL and that's a fact. It just happens to be that we punt the ball more than most. Thus, this D has to make more stops than anyone in the NFL because our offense can't sustain drives. If this D played with a top 10 offense it would allow even less points than it currently does. And this D already allows the least PPG in the NFL

smh

[Willbacker]

On ‎12‎/‎16‎/‎2016 at 8:23 AM, K-Dog said:

I don't think he is allowed based on players union contract mumbo-jumbo. 

I could be wrong. 

As far as I know players are allowed to do what they want. Coaches just cant be present.

On ‎12‎/‎16‎/‎2016 at 8:53 AM, Drew P said:

I wonder if they practice check down tosses

They need to start practicing check up launches.

I haven't read the article on Steve but I cant picture this passionless guy being upset. Especially when he may be in his last year.