[News] Late For Work 12/13: Seven Takeaways From Monday Night, Including Ravens' Playoff Path

[budkretz]

Yes, when the Ravens lose it's easier to bash! Bottom line the Pats Coaches are superb and the Ravens coaches are average. Our coordinators look great when the game plan works, but we cannot and do not adjust within a game especially when a good team is playing us. Losses to the Cowboys, Raiders and Pats bear this out. The onside kick was ridiculous. Kickoff out of the end zone. Pats have ball on 25. You have 2 minute warning and two time outs. Stop them and they punt to us with well over a minute left with good field position assuming Hester catches the ball.

Why is Hester on the team? His non-catches, crappy returns and fumbling have killed us all year. Does he have more than a half-dozen "good" returns the entire year and has any of these returns made a difference. Get Campanaro on the roster NOW, he can't be any worse! Matt Elam is another player that needs to be long gone. Yes, Weddle took the blame, but Elam defending a pass equals disaster. Even Asa Jackson would be better.


I have a big problem with the blocked field goal. A defensive player cannot line up over the center (too dangerous) yet a player can run and leapfrog the center in timing the hike. How is that not dangerous? How is that not being over the center as the ball is being hiked. The center is way too vunerable especially if the player mis-jumps and lands on the center. The o-line can't move - so it's an all out advantage to the defense. The league needs to look at this play.

[steelcityraven]

1. The offense is hard to watch at times. I know that the check down is there but watching Joe run through his progressions ( or not run through them) was frustrating. His first read in his progression often seemed to be his check down. He seemed very reluctant to play to his strength (and throw the long ball) When he did, he actually had some success but he looks less then confident back there.

2. Why do we always play so far off of opposing WRs? Especially against QBs like Brady who will gladly take what we give them.... and carve us up? The one thing that I have been so frustrated with Dean Pees's defenses over the years is how the DBs play so soft

3. Jimmy is the one guy who we cannot loose. It was that way last year and that way the year before. This is killing us. I love Jimmy and when he is healthy he plays great but one think is for certain about # 22 and that is that he will miss some games every year. We know this - so why have we allowed our team to remain so dependent on a CB who we know will miss some games. Why haven't we drafted a CB higher? We have to go CB in the 1st or 2nd round this year (or maybe both)

4. Dixon should be our RB moving forward.

5. We should be using Juice more

6. I love Pitta and glad that he is making a comeback but Joe has to do a better job of finding someone else to move the chains in crucial situations. Pitta will consistently run routes short of the first down - he gets zero yards after the catch and no YAC plus running the routes short equals consistently not picking up 1st downs in crucial situations. (I would rather see Waller or even Boyle there on 3rd downs).

7. Finally... we can beat good teams. (we seem to own the sqeelers...) and that is the only one that really matter right now. If we beat them we can get in... and who know what happens from there. (BTW...we just beat the Dolphins who is on that list... )

[TheConquerorWorm]

1 coaching
a. Penalties, 8 years now we have been told its on the coach. We continue to implode when driving with stupid penalties. How long, how long?
b. urgency, for 8 years we have been saying that someone needs to light a fire under Flacco, he needs to show he is in a hurry,
c. Field smarts, for 8 years we have said that Flacco is not a field manager. He barely has a hand full of plays he can check to, he can't even see the front line fill the hole he is getting ready to give the back the ball to run into. he cant even step back and call a timeout when in doubt
d. run-pass efficiency for 8 years we have been saying that for Flacco to be successful that there has to be some sort of equality in runs and passes, yet here we go again with a Flacco throwfest that just wants to make us throw up.

I am stopping here because I think you get the picture. Flacco has many imperfections but if nobody is going to tell him to fix it, he is the proverbial lazy boy who leaves his socks in the middle of the floor until mommy tells him to pick them up. For 8 years we have been waiting for someone to tell Flacco to pick up his socks along.

Same with everything else that just keeps occurring. Someone needs to coach and it looks like the inmates are running the asylum.

And for 6 of those 8 years, you watched Flacco lead the Ravens in the play-offs including winning a SB.

SMH....Some people are just miserable pessimists

[illinoisravensfan]

Two players have got to go Hester and Elam, Egaads!!!

[whobilly]

We showed who we are last night. A middle of the pack team.

[eze17]

  1 hour ago, fusuymada said:

1 coaching
a. Penalties, 8 years now we have been told its on the coach. We continue to implode when driving with stupid penalties. How long, how long?
b. urgency, for 8 years we have been saying that someone needs to light a fire under Flacco, he needs to show he is in a hurry,
c. Field smarts, for 8 years we have said that Flacco is not a field manager. He barely has a hand full of plays he can check to, he can't even see the front line fill the hole he is getting ready to give the back the ball to run into. he cant even step back and call a timeout when in doubt
d. run-pass efficiency for 8 years we have been saying that for Flacco to be successful that there has to be some sort of equality in runs and passes, yet here we go again with a Flacco throwfest that just wants to make us throw up.

I am stopping here because I think you get the picture. Flacco has many imperfections but if nobody is going to tell him to fix it, he is the proverbial lazy boy who leaves his socks in the middle of the floor until mommy tells him to pick them up. For 8 years we have been waiting for someone to tell Flacco to pick up his socks along.

Same with everything else that just keeps occurring. Someone needs to coach and it looks like the inmates are running the asylum.

And for 6 of those 8 years, you watched Flacco lead the Ravens in the play-offs including winning a SB.

SMH....Some people are just miserable pessimists

Agreed. However, it is a point worth mentioning that time management is obviously something that both Harbs & Flacco have struggled with since coming to the Ravens. It's something that does occasionally come back and bite us. I think it's to late to expect drastic changes in the way they manage the clock, but it certainly is frustrating at times.

[bioLarzen]

There's one thing seldom mentioned - one that I think was painfully apparent last nioght. Flacco has been quoted several times throughoput his career saying football is a very simple game. And eindeed, he's been often criticized for playing too siple: no variation at all in his pre-snap and snap routine, play-reading so repetitive it's almost automatic at times, making it extremely easy for opposing D's to anticipate, and maybe his most annoying of antics - an apparent total lack of a sense of urgency when there is urgency - mainly in the ends of halves. Tens of seconds flat out wasted as the O sluggishly jogs - or often walks! - up to the new LOS after a completion, with less than a minute on the clock and one timeout... And then passes/runs going to anywhere but towards the sideline, with no chance of stopping the clock... The O's 2-minute routine has become a genuine shame. The most obvious example might have been the Cowboys-game where down by 2 scores, Flacco orchestrated a 2.-minute drill that, although kept proceeding down the field, was slower than a snail, mostly passes and runs up the middle with no chance to strop the clock, and arrived at the red zone with about 10 seconds on the clock, with no timeout... And that was supposed to be enough for a touchdown, a recovered onside kick and making it to at least FG distance with the clock stopped... The "pace" and total lack of a sense of urgency on the O's - mainly Flacco's - side ALONE made it impossible to save that game. He gave the O no chance.

Yep, Joe, NFL-level football can be played as a very simple game. But it can also be played as a very, very complicated, nuanced and intricate one. You know who looks at NFL football like this? Bill Belichick. Check his success rate and decide whether he's wrong thinking about football as a compléicated game, or you insisting that football is a simple game even at the NFL level...

Flacco's attitude IMHO needs a serious, decisive change. Being cool even when most QB's aren't has its advantages - but it also makes him look like he couldn't care less whether the game is won or lost... And while the results more or less came, nobody thought it would actually be the case - but now that they don't come so "easily" anymore, one starts to wonder whether Joe values W's as much as anybody who's ever achieved greatness in the game, has or does...

[Bat-mite]

5 minutes ago, bioLarzen said:

There's one thing seldom mentioned - one that I think was painfully apparent last nioght. Flacco has been quoted several times throughoput his career saying football is a very simple game. And eindeed, he's been often criticized for playing too siple: no variation at all in his pre-snap and snap routine, play-reading so repetitive it's almost automatic at times, making it extremely easy for opposing D's to anticipate, and maybe his most annoying of antics - an apparent total lack of a sense of urgency when there is urgency - mainly in the ends of halves. Tens of seconds flat out wasted as the O sluggishly jogs - or often walks! - up to the new LOS after a completion, with less than a minute on the clock and one timeout... And then passes/runs going to anywhere but towards the sideline, with no chance of stopping the clock... The O's 2-minute routine has become a genuine shame. The most obvious example might have been the Cowboys-game where down by 2 scores, Flacco orchestrated a 2.-minute drill that, although kept proceeding down the field, was slower than a snail, mostly passes and runs up the middle with no chance to strop the clock, and arrived at the red zone with about 10 seconds on the clock, with no timeout... And that was supposed to be enough for a touchdown, a recovered onside kick and making it to at least FG distance with the clock stopped... The "pace" and total lack of a sense of urgency on the O's - mainly Flacco's - side ALONE made it impossible to save that game. He gave the O no chance.

Yep, Joe, NFL-level football can be played as a very simple game. But it can also be played as a very, very complicated, nuanced and intricate one. You know who looks at NFL football like this? Bill Belichick. Check his success rate and decide whether he's wrong thinking about football as a compléicated game, or you insisting that football is a simple game even at the NFL level...

Flacco's attitude IMHO needs a serious, decisive change. Being cool even when most QB's aren't has its advantages - but it also makes him look like he couldn't care less whether the game is won or lost... And while the results more or less came, nobody thought it would actually be the case - but now that they don't come so "easily" anymore, one starts to wonder whether Joe values W's as much as anybody who's ever achieved greatness in the game, has or does...

Agree 100%.

[bioLarzen]

As for winning out the remaining 3 games... Could happen - but losing out would not be a shocker either. To me it looks like we'll win one and lose two, finishing the worst possible way (8-8, nowhere near good enough for the playoffs, but taking us back to around the 17-20 range for the draft): the Eagles are definitely beatable, but the two final road games are gonna be more than tough. Yep, the steelers game is always a 50-50, but with Flacco's apparent indifference this season coupled with the perceived inaptitude at the coaching level makes it very hard to me to see this O scoring more than 15-18 points - and you rarely win in pittsburgh with so few points... And then, last week, the Bengals, with Green almost surely back... And we all know what that almost invariably means for the Ravens... Even if we find a way to beat the steelers, the Dalton-Green tandem can easily sink our playoff boat.

Yep, it's always week to week in the NFL - but right now I would say opur playoff hopes are, even if it's in our hands, slim. With a so low efficiency O, they definitely are.

[bioLarzen]

  1 hour ago, fusuymada said:

1 coaching
a. Penalties, 8 years now we have been told its on the coach. We continue to implode when driving with stupid penalties. How long, how long?
b. urgency, for 8 years we have been saying that someone needs to light a fire under Flacco, he needs to show he is in a hurry,
c. Field smarts, for 8 years we have said that Flacco is not a field manager. He barely has a hand full of plays he can check to, he can't even see the front line fill the hole he is getting ready to give the back the ball to run into. he cant even step back and call a timeout when in doubt
d. run-pass efficiency for 8 years we have been saying that for Flacco to be successful that there has to be some sort of equality in runs and passes, yet here we go again with a Flacco throwfest that just wants to make us throw up.

I am stopping here because I think you get the picture. Flacco has many imperfections but if nobody is going to tell him to fix it, he is the proverbial lazy boy who leaves his socks in the middle of the floor until mommy tells him to pick them up. For 8 years we have been waiting for someone to tell Flacco to pick up his socks along.

Same with everything else that just keeps occurring. Someone needs to coach and it looks like the inmates are running the asylum.

And for 6 of those 8 years, you watched Flacco lead the Ravens in the play-offs including winning a SB.

SMH....Some people are just miserable pessimists

... and others still see the playoff Flacco of years ago when he utterly obviously isn't the same player now...

Do you think that's closer to reality?

[Crusader]

Yes, when the Ravens lose it's easier to bash! Bottom line the Pats Coaches are superb and the Ravens coaches are average. Our coordinators look great when the game plan works, but we cannot and do not adjust within a game especially when a good team is playing us. Losses to the Cowboys, Raiders and Pats bear this out. The onside kick was ridiculous. Kickoff out of the end zone. Pats have ball on 25. You have 2 minute warning and two time outs. Stop them and they punt to us with well over a minute left with good field position assuming Hester catches the ball.

Why is Hester on the team? His non-catches, crappy returns and fumbling have killed us all year. Does he have more than a half-dozen "good" returns the entire year and has any of these returns made a difference. Get Campanaro on the roster NOW, he can't be any worse! Matt Elam is another player that needs to be long gone. Yes, Weddle took the blame, but Elam defending a pass equals disaster. Even Asa Jackson would be better.


I have a big problem with the blocked field goal. A defensive player cannot line up over the center (too dangerous) yet a player can run and leapfrog the center in timing the hike. How is that not dangerous? How is that not being over the center as the ball is being hiked. The center is way too vunerable especially if the player mis-jumps and lands on the center. The o-line can't move - so it's an all out advantage to the defense. The league needs to look at this play.

All COX had to do is LOOK UP. COX is SLACKING. Even his punts are getting shorter and shorter.

[RavenSpain]

Pretty tired of the check-downs. Not sure how many times last night I said "1 yard pass," "2 yard pass," or "0 yard pass." Very frustrating.

We were gifted 3 turn overs and still lost by 7. We are not a very good team. I've said before, we need to play perfect football (no turnovers, no big plays. limited penalties) to win against good teams, which is impossible for any team.

You could see a big difference between the Pats and our o-line last night. The Pats were moving the line of scrimmage down the field about 3 yards on every play. More often than not, out o-line gets pushed back into the backfield.

If we make it to the playoffs, I don't see this team going very far. But if we can sweep the Steelers again, that will make this season a success no matter what.

[TheConquerorWorm]

  56 minutes ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

  1 hour ago, fusuymada said:

1 coaching
a. Penalties, 8 years now we have been told its on the coach. We continue to implode when driving with stupid penalties. How long, how long?
b. urgency, for 8 years we have been saying that someone needs to light a fire under Flacco, he needs to show he is in a hurry,
c. Field smarts, for 8 years we have said that Flacco is not a field manager. He barely has a hand full of plays he can check to, he can't even see the front line fill the hole he is getting ready to give the back the ball to run into. he cant even step back and call a timeout when in doubt
d. run-pass efficiency for 8 years we have been saying that for Flacco to be successful that there has to be some sort of equality in runs and passes, yet here we go again with a Flacco throwfest that just wants to make us throw up.

I am stopping here because I think you get the picture. Flacco has many imperfections but if nobody is going to tell him to fix it, he is the proverbial lazy boy who leaves his socks in the middle of the floor until mommy tells him to pick them up. For 8 years we have been waiting for someone to tell Flacco to pick up his socks along.

Same with everything else that just keeps occurring. Someone needs to coach and it looks like the inmates are running the asylum.

And for 6 of those 8 years, you watched Flacco lead the Ravens in the play-offs including winning a SB.

SMH....Some people are just miserable pessimists

... and others still see the playoff Flacco of years ago when he utterly obviously isn't the same player now...

Do you think that's closer to reality?

I think he's still the exact player he was then. I think maybe you expect him to "take the next step" and become a HOF like Manning & Brady. Those are unrealistic expectations. Joe is a big, strong armed QB that can win games in the 4th quarter (like he did this year against OAK, NYG & WAS) and in the play-offs. He's not a fantasy QB that is going to throw for 4,000 yards and 40 TDs. Never was, never will be.

[TheConquerorWorm]

  1 hour ago, budkretz said:

Yes, when the Ravens lose it's easier to bash! Bottom line the Pats Coaches are superb and the Ravens coaches are average. Our coordinators look great when the game plan works, but we cannot and do not adjust within a game especially when a good team is playing us. Losses to the Cowboys, Raiders and Pats bear this out. The onside kick was ridiculous. Kickoff out of the end zone. Pats have ball on 25. You have 2 minute warning and two time outs. Stop them and they punt to us with well over a minute left with good field position assuming Hester catches the ball.

Why is Hester on the team? His non-catches, crappy returns and fumbling have killed us all year. Does he have more than a half-dozen "good" returns the entire year and has any of these returns made a difference. Get Campanaro on the roster NOW, he can't be any worse! Matt Elam is another player that needs to be long gone. Yes, Weddle took the blame, but Elam defending a pass equals disaster. Even Asa Jackson would be better.


I have a big problem with the blocked field goal. A defensive player cannot line up over the center (too dangerous) yet a player can run and leapfrog the center in timing the hike. How is that not dangerous? How is that not being over the center as the ball is being hiked. The center is way too vunerable especially if the player mis-jumps and lands on the center. The o-line can't move - so it's an all out advantage to the defense. The league needs to look at this play.

All COX had to do is LOOK UP. COX is SLACKING. Even his punts are getting shorter and shorter.

Morgan Cox is the snapper, Sam Koch is the punter. If you are going to make ignorant troll drivel comments, at least get the players and names right.

[RavensBaltimore]

  54 minutes ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

  1 hour ago, fusuymada said:

1 coaching
a. Penalties, 8 years now we have been told its on the coach. We continue to implode when driving with stupid penalties. How long, how long?
b. urgency, for 8 years we have been saying that someone needs to light a fire under Flacco, he needs to show he is in a hurry,
c. Field smarts, for 8 years we have said that Flacco is not a field manager. He barely has a hand full of plays he can check to, he can't even see the front line fill the hole he is getting ready to give the back the ball to run into. he cant even step back and call a timeout when in doubt
d. run-pass efficiency for 8 years we have been saying that for Flacco to be successful that there has to be some sort of equality in runs and passes, yet here we go again with a Flacco throwfest that just wants to make us throw up.

I am stopping here because I think you get the picture. Flacco has many imperfections but if nobody is going to tell him to fix it, he is the proverbial lazy boy who leaves his socks in the middle of the floor until mommy tells him to pick them up. For 8 years we have been waiting for someone to tell Flacco to pick up his socks along.

Same with everything else that just keeps occurring. Someone needs to coach and it looks like the inmates are running the asylum.

And for 6 of those 8 years, you watched Flacco lead the Ravens in the play-offs including winning a SB.

SMH....Some people are just miserable pessimists

... and others still see the playoff Flacco of years ago when he utterly obviously isn't the same player now...

Do you think that's closer to reality?

I don't. Flacco looks the same to me. Neither his arm strength nor his accuracy have diminished. People like to bash the qb when the offense struggles, but the reality is that the there are too many drops and penalties, no run game, and we have never had an OC that makes good adjustments. Despite that, we still have a chance to make the playoffs. Our only 2 losses in the last 6 games have been to the 2 best teams in the league, on the road, by 10 and 7 points.

[Crusader]

  1 hour ago, fusuymada said:

1 coaching
a. Penalties, 8 years now we have been told its on the coach. We continue to implode when driving with stupid penalties. How long, how long?
b. urgency, for 8 years we have been saying that someone needs to light a fire under Flacco, he needs to show he is in a hurry,
c. Field smarts, for 8 years we have said that Flacco is not a field manager. He barely has a hand full of plays he can check to, he can't even see the front line fill the hole he is getting ready to give the back the ball to run into. he cant even step back and call a timeout when in doubt
d. run-pass efficiency for 8 years we have been saying that for Flacco to be successful that there has to be some sort of equality in runs and passes, yet here we go again with a Flacco throwfest that just wants to make us throw up.

I am stopping here because I think you get the picture. Flacco has many imperfections but if nobody is going to tell him to fix it, he is the proverbial lazy boy who leaves his socks in the middle of the floor until mommy tells him to pick them up. For 8 years we have been waiting for someone to tell Flacco to pick up his socks along.

Same with everything else that just keeps occurring. Someone needs to coach and it looks like the inmates are running the asylum.

And for 6 of those 8 years, you watched Flacco lead the Ravens in the play-offs including winning a SB.

SMH....Some people are just miserable pessimists

Some people can see reality thru Purple Glasses.

[OriolesMagicPlease]

It would be nice to have a wide receiver that fights for the ball other than Steve Smith Sr. It makes all the difference. Those who are bashing Flacco today really need to look at the big picture of the offense. Look at the penalties and dropped balls and miscommunication. Joe is an easy target.

[steelcityraven]

Two players have got to go Hester and Elam, Egaads!!!

I am with you on both.... Hester just was not what we had hoped for and even when he does hit a seam... he no longer seems to have the speed to truly take advantage of the situation. Hard for me to believe that Campanaro or Kenyan Reynolds could do equally as well. They should at least prove to make better decisions back there.

Elam just seems lost more times then not...even the big play aside... he just remains more of a liability then an asset to this team. I guess it is time to close the book on that one also!

[ibleedpurpleandblack]

“The reality is that until late in the game, the Ravens offense reverted to the erratic, mistake-prone attack we saw over the first 11 weeks of the season. And Tom Brady pretty well carved up a secondary that again had to play without an injured Jimmy Smith.”

^^^ YELP that's the REALITY of it all folks!!! Marty had a good plan against Miami and the players executed it perfectly. Appears Marty had a crappy plan against NE and the players executed it crappy!!! NE knew exactly what and where Flacco was going damn near every time he dropped back to pass. One pass he was going across the middle to Pitta and there were 5 defenders in the area, one dropped back and almost had an INT. Not impressed with Marty at all!!!

[steelcityraven]

If we win vs PHILLY and PITTSBURGH...we will beat the Bengals who will have packed their tents and called it a season by week 16. We just have to win this week. We have owned the sqeelers lately a winning 4 straight and 6 of the last 8. Denver has a rough schedule ahead with the PATs, Chiefs and OAK. Pittsburgh has all divisional games left and all rivalry games left. They could drop 1 or 2 for sure. The Dolphins are done without Tannehill. Our road to the playoffs is still as legit as many. Even a wild card is no longer out of the questions for us. (if not winning the division)

[leziRav]

  42 minutes ago, bioLarzen said:

  1 hour ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

  2 hours ago, fusuymada said:

1 coaching
a. Penalties, 8 years now we have been told its on the coach. We continue to implode when driving with stupid penalties. How long, how long?
b. urgency, for 8 years we have been saying that someone needs to light a fire under Flacco, he needs to show he is in a hurry,
c. Field smarts, for 8 years we have said that Flacco is not a field manager. He barely has a hand full of plays he can check to, he can't even see the front line fill the hole he is getting ready to give the back the ball to run into. he cant even step back and call a timeout when in doubt
d. run-pass efficiency for 8 years we have been saying that for Flacco to be successful that there has to be some sort of equality in runs and passes, yet here we go again with a Flacco throwfest that just wants to make us throw up.

I am stopping here because I think you get the picture. Flacco has many imperfections but if nobody is going to tell him to fix it, he is the proverbial lazy boy who leaves his socks in the middle of the floor until mommy tells him to pick them up. For 8 years we have been waiting for someone to tell Flacco to pick up his socks along.

Same with everything else that just keeps occurring. Someone needs to coach and it looks like the inmates are running the asylum.

And for 6 of those 8 years, you watched Flacco lead the Ravens in the play-offs including winning a SB.

SMH....Some people are just miserable pessimists

... and others still see the playoff Flacco of years ago when he utterly obviously isn't the same player now...

Do you think that's closer to reality?

I don't. Flacco looks the same to me. Neither his arm strength nor his accuracy have diminished. People like to bash the qb when the offense struggles, but the reality is that the there are too many drops and penalties, no run game, and we have never had an OC that makes good adjustments. Despite that, we still have a chance to make the playoffs. Our only 2 losses in the last 6 games have been to the 2 best teams in the league, on the road, by 10 and 7 points.

I agree. We are going to see those teams again. Then it will be our time to take revenge. Remember this date. I said the Ravens will meet and beat the Pats in playoffs and then go to beat the cowboys in SB ( ok that was the purple cool aid). But really this team has talents everywhere. Time will come one day this year or next year when thing will click. Then it will be a Ravens dynasty for a while. Next year we will get a better OC and build get some good defense backs in the offseason. I just say patience Ravensnation, patience, patience.

[ibleedpurpleandblack]

2 hours ago, krnraven said:

Oh Joe was sucking despite what the misleading stat line says. Had it not been for the gifted TOs he would not have had the 2 tds. Offense could not stay on the field for more than 4 minutes.

There were receivers open on some plays. Plus with a zone you can hang in the pocket and wait for the soft spots. Remember Mattison???? Joe is too anxious and is hurting us.
There was no running game because coach hardhead neglects to run. And have you seen a two minute offense from Joe? It's like watching grass grow. My frustration is that the same problems occur and that we are not getting better even 14 weeks later.

Pats have less skilled players than we do yet they contend every year due to exceptional coaching.

Plus with zone you can hang in the pocket - WHAT POCKET?!?!?!?!?  When he did hang in the pocket he got sacked.  The OL played like ish again and it showed on the entire offense!!

Maybe, they aren't less skilled players - maybe we have the less skilled players and obviously also lack the exceptional coaching.  It is apparent that they were ready to play against us and we thought we were playing the Browns again....

[ibleedpurpleandblack]

25 minutes ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

Some people just troll other team's boards.....

and he's got like 5000 posts - Crusader is a HUGE TROLL!!!

[The Greek]

  39 minutes ago, RavensBaltimore said:

  1 hour ago, bioLarzen said:

  1 hour ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

  2 hours ago, fusuymada said:

1 coaching
a. Penalties, 8 years now we have been told its on the coach. We continue to implode when driving with stupid penalties. How long, how long?
b. urgency, for 8 years we have been saying that someone needs to light a fire under Flacco, he needs to show he is in a hurry,
c. Field smarts, for 8 years we have said that Flacco is not a field manager. He barely has a hand full of plays he can check to, he can't even see the front line fill the hole he is getting ready to give the back the ball to run into. he cant even step back and call a timeout when in doubt
d. run-pass efficiency for 8 years we have been saying that for Flacco to be successful that there has to be some sort of equality in runs and passes, yet here we go again with a Flacco throwfest that just wants to make us throw up.

I am stopping here because I think you get the picture. Flacco has many imperfections but if nobody is going to tell him to fix it, he is the proverbial lazy boy who leaves his socks in the middle of the floor until mommy tells him to pick them up. For 8 years we have been waiting for someone to tell Flacco to pick up his socks along.

Same with everything else that just keeps occurring. Someone needs to coach and it looks like the inmates are running the asylum.

And for 6 of those 8 years, you watched Flacco lead the Ravens in the play-offs including winning a SB.

SMH....Some people are just miserable pessimists

... and others still see the playoff Flacco of years ago when he utterly obviously isn't the same player now...

Do you think that's closer to reality?

I don't. Flacco looks the same to me. Neither his arm strength nor his accuracy have diminished. People like to bash the qb when the offense struggles, but the reality is that the there are too many drops and penalties, no run game, and we have never had an OC that makes good adjustments. Despite that, we still have a chance to make the playoffs. Our only 2 losses in the last 6 games have been to the 2 best teams in the league, on the road, by 10 and 7 points.

I agree. We are going to see those teams again. Then it will be our time to take revenge. Remember this date. I said the Ravens will meet and beat the Pats in playoffs and then go to beat the cowboys in SB ( ok that was the purple cool aid). But really this team has talents everywhere. Time will come one day this year or next year when thing will click. Then it will be a Ravens dynasty for a while. Next year we will get a better OC and build get some good defense backs in the offseason. I just say patience Ravensnation, patience, patience.

he was elite for 4 games and that was 4 years ago. since the big $$ he has been a tad better than kyle boller and with that money you need to carry a team on your back like brady and the other top dogs do. i still believe we should see what we can get for him in a trade and free ourselves from that contract. brady showed fire and passion last night and the team responded. joe and the offense play with no fire or passion until it is too late.

[Militant X 1]

The Patriots have revealed a very simple formula imo to help the Eagles, Steelers and Bengals to destroy the Ravens and ruin their playoff hopes:

 

Ravens offensive explosion against the Dolphins was an aberration.  Disregard what you saw there.

Stop the run.

Eliminate Pitta from their game plan all together.

Only rush 3 and drop 8 defenders back in various coverages.

Joe is "Mr. Checkdown!"  Expect the dink and donk garbage and that he'll only throw 4 yards when 8 yards are needed for a 1st down.

Bring the house on 3rd downs because the O-line can't pick up the blitz and Joe is easily shell-shocked.

Defense comes out fast and furious but wears down by the middle of the 2nd quarter.  No pass rush after that.

Ravens put LB's on RB's out wide so look to exploit that when possible.

Ravens CB's are mediocre and give at least 10 yards cushion.  Slant'em up for big gains!!

Establish your run game to get the safeties to "bite" on the PA for an easy deep throw over the top for a TD

Kick the ball anywhere near Hester and he won't catch it.  He'll just watch it hit the ground and roll in your favor.

Don't worry about the Ravens "sense of urgency" either because they don't have one.

 

 

[Crusader]

  30 minutes ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

Some people just troll other team's boards.....

and he's got like 5000 posts - Crusader is a HUGE TROLL!!!

Thank You, But I never call others names, make fun of simple spelling mistakes, or result to third grade level.

[TheRavengers]

My takeaways:

1. We went back to our anemic offense when we should've learned from the past 11 weeks. I hate that our performance vs. the Dolphins is basically a one-and-done thing.
2. Checkdowns are good. Checkdowns all the time are terrible (I remember there being a stat showing 5 passes when to WRs, 1 to a TE, and 8 to backs)
3. The team took advantage of 2 special teams turnovers, which is good. Otherwise we'd have been routed easily.
4. 300+ passing yards and 2 TDs from Flacco should be enough any other day but just not last night, worse since most of them came in the 2nd half and we still had a chance to take the lead.
5. Jimmy Smith's mere presence (or lack thereof) is a game changer.
6. Penalties keep happening and now it's just awful.
7. "Urgency" is not a word they're familiar with, if the last 5 minutes are an indicator.
8. Justin Tucker is still awesome, despite his blocked FG

Extra note: Honestly, I'm not terribly disappointed in the team's loss, it has more to do with them going back to their old ways of stale offense. Going into Gillette Stadium and winning on any given day is a real tall order, for any team, even the ones in their own division. I was also right in my belief that the Ravens would go up there and if not win, at least make this a close game and make the Pats sweat a little bit, which is technically true considering they fumbled away kicks twice and we were within 7 points of tying them.

[surfdude]

Marty is a veteran coach ...... why no plan B. I mean c'mon work the sidelines have Joe pump fake something. No just drop back and throw 2 yard passes alllllllll night. Unreal. The D stayed in Baltimore last night. Didn't play Raven fly to the football D. Sad to say I don't have confidence they'll be able to win out. I see them beating the Eagles and then losing the next two. The offense philosophy or lack of is a mess right now. Flacco is a robot at the line that needs to stop. 123 snap 123 snap etc .... Oh well ............gonna be major changes during the off season. Sorry to be back to being gloomy , but its a week to week league.

[PurpleRainBlackVeins]

The Patriots have revealed a very simple formula imo to help the Eagles, Steelers and Bengals to destroy the Ravens and ruin their playoff hopes:

 

Ravens offensive explosion against the Dolphins was an aberration.  Disregard what you saw there.

Stop the run.

Eliminate Pitta from their game plan all together.

Only rush 3 and drop 8 defenders back in various coverages.

Joe is "Mr. Checkdown!"  Expect the dink and donk garbage and that he'll only throw 4 yards when 8 yards are needed for a 1st down.

Bring the house on 3rd downs because the O-line can't pick up the blitz and Joe is easily shell-shocked.

Defense comes out fast and furious but wears down by the middle of the 2nd quarter.  No pass rush after that.

Ravens put LB's on RB's out wide so look to exploit that when possible.

Ravens CB's are mediocre and give at least 10 yards cushion.  Slant'em up for big gains!!

Establish your run game to get the safeties to "bite" on the PA for an easy deep throw over the top for a TD

Kick the ball anywhere near Hester and he won't catch it.  He'll just watch it hit the ground and roll in your favor.

Don't worry about the Ravens "sense of urgency" either because they don't have one.

 

 

Couldn't have said this better myself!!

[leziRav]

  14 minutes ago, leziRav said:

  44 minutes ago, RavensBaltimore said:

  1 hour ago, bioLarzen said:

  1 hour ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

  2 hours ago, fusuymada said:

1 coaching
a. Penalties, 8 years now we have been told its on the coach. We continue to implode when driving with stupid penalties. How long, how long?
b. urgency, for 8 years we have been saying that someone needs to light a fire under Flacco, he needs to show he is in a hurry,
c. Field smarts, for 8 years we have said that Flacco is not a field manager. He barely has a hand full of plays he can check to, he can't even see the front line fill the hole he is getting ready to give the back the ball to run into. he cant even step back and call a timeout when in doubt
d. run-pass efficiency for 8 years we have been saying that for Flacco to be successful that there has to be some sort of equality in runs and passes, yet here we go again with a Flacco throwfest that just wants to make us throw up.

I am stopping here because I think you get the picture. Flacco has many imperfections but if nobody is going to tell him to fix it, he is the proverbial lazy boy who leaves his socks in the middle of the floor until mommy tells him to pick them up. For 8 years we have been waiting for someone to tell Flacco to pick up his socks along.

Same with everything else that just keeps occurring. Someone needs to coach and it looks like the inmates are running the asylum.

And for 6 of those 8 years, you watched Flacco lead the Ravens in the play-offs including winning a SB.

SMH....Some people are just miserable pessimists

... and others still see the playoff Flacco of years ago when he utterly obviously isn't the same player now...

Do you think that's closer to reality?

I don't. Flacco looks the same to me. Neither his arm strength nor his accuracy have diminished. People like to bash the qb when the offense struggles, but the reality is that the there are too many drops and penalties, no run game, and we have never had an OC that makes good adjustments. Despite that, we still have a chance to make the playoffs. Our only 2 losses in the last 6 games have been to the 2 best teams in the league, on the road, by 10 and 7 points.

I agree. We are going to see those teams again. Then it will be our time to take revenge. Remember this date. I said the Ravens will meet and beat the Pats in playoffs and then go to beat the cowboys in SB ( ok that was the purple cool aid). But really this team has talents everywhere. Time will come one day this year or next year when thing will click. Then it will be a Ravens dynasty for a while. Next year we will get a better OC and build get some good defense backs in the offseason. I just say patience Ravensnation, patience, patience.

he was elite for 4 games and that was 4 years ago. since the big $$ he has been a tad better than kyle boller and with that money you need to carry a team on your back like brady and the other top dogs do. i still believe we should see what we can get for him in a trade and free ourselves from that contract. brady showed fire and passion last night and the team responded. joe and the offense play with no fire or passion until it is too late.

Joe is Joe, not Brady. Every QB has their own personalities and skills. They are all different. Joe is a good decent QB. The team need to be built around Joe'skill. When Joe had a healthy Pitta, A Boldin, T Smith and J.Jones with a good OL and good running game, He was playing like an elite ( SB wins and a lot of playoffs wins) . This year we have Pitta back, some burner WRs, RB Dixon. We just need to work on our OL and get an OC who will work around Joe skills. Then we will need our defense to hold team in second half. We could have win yesterday and the game against the cowboys had our defense stopped them in the 4th quarter. So the future is bright for us. All we need is to work on our OL and defensive backs during the offseason then we will be in SB talk every year. Joe is a good QB.