[News] The Breakdown: Eisenberg's Five Thoughts vs. New England Patriots

[Ravensfansince03]

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[ravensnj]

  1 hour ago, Purple Dawg 96 said:

This should be the Ravens 3rd loss redskins cowboys and pats! Those other games were winnable and make no sense beating ourselves up let's learn from this win out and see what happens!

We have what we have. We continue to show improvement and we will be divisional leaders if we win out. We can and have beaten the Steelers and Bengals and the Eagles will be a win also. I said we should blow this team out and considering the history, I should have known better. Joe is just an average, at best, qb. I have tried to defend him, but he just refuses to put any energy into what he is doing. I think a little sit on the bench for a couple of downs might fire him up a bit. Remember when Suggs was pushing for our own wildcat with Troy Smith and Flacco about freaked out that he was not the one under center. Lets take a couple of practices and have Mallett run the offense or let him come in on the second drive of the game. If Flacco can't motivate himself it is incumbent on the coaches to motivate him. Nothing up to now seems to work so exceptional times require exceptional measures. Will Harbaugh have it in him to do this, probably not, but that is what he needs. He is playing like a diva, he acts like he doesn't want to hurry up, that the game moves at his speed, I would let him test the speed of the bench in that case. Maybe he would study a little more film or learn how to read defenses in that spare time.

One more thing... The Hester experiment is OVER!!!! If he is still on this team at the end of this week and Campanaro isn't called up, then Ozzie and John are idiots. Its a shame the fans have known for weeks what 2 highly paid football executives just can't seem to figure out. We have now become that footnote in Hesters career where people say, yep, he should have quit while he was ahead, but he sure soaked Baltimore for a couple mil.

Flacco has hurt the team this season, no doubt. He needs a testosterone shot or something?

[Crusader]

Ravens will not go to Pittsburgh and beat the Steelers. Not this time. Not with the way Joe is playing. So get the playoff dreams out of your head. The NFL wants the Steelers and Le"Veon Bell to play New England. Translate. Refs in Pitts game will make that happen.

[jhulax35]

11 minutes ago, fusuymada said:

We have what we have. We continue to show improvement and we will be divisional leaders if we win out. We can and have beaten the Steelers and Bengals and the Eagles will be a win also. I said we should blow this team out and considering the history, I should have known better. Joe is just an average, at best, qb. I have tried to defend him, but he just refuses to put any energy into what he is doing. I think a little sit on the bench for a couple of downs might fire him up a bit. Remember when Suggs was pushing for our own wildcat with Troy Smith and Flacco about freaked out that he was not the one under center. Lets take a couple of practices and have Mallett run the offense or let him come in on the second drive of the game. If Flacco can't motivate himself it is incumbent on the coaches to motivate him. Nothing up to now seems to work so exceptional times require exceptional measures. Will Harbaugh have it in him to do this, probably not, but that is what he needs. He is playing like a diva, he acts like he doesn't want to hurry up, that the game moves at his speed, I would let him test the speed of the bench in that case. Maybe he would study a little more film or learn how to read defenses in that spare time.

One more thing... The Hester experiment is OVER!!!! If he is still on this team at the end of this week and Campanaro isn't called up, then Ozzie and John are idiots. Its a shame the fans have known for weeks what 2 highly paid football executives just can't seem to figure out. We have now become that footnote in Hesters career where people say, yep, he should have quit while he was ahead, but he sure soaked Baltimore for a couple mil.

How will you say joe is just average.. did he miss some passes yes but on the int Wallace looked like he was trying to catch a chair I mean it looked like joe shot 3 pointer how wide Wallace arms were.. breshad perriman had  some nice catches but also missed a pass which was drive killer because he was being lazy wasn't ready for the ball. He's a first round pick he should always expect to get the ball and never look surprised when it's passed to him

[whobilly]

Ravens will not go to Pittsburgh and beat the Steelers. Not this time. Not with the way Joe is playing. So get the playoff dreams out of your head. The NFL wants the Steelers and Le"Veon Bell to play New England. Translate. Refs in Pitts game will make that happen.

Both teams are mediocre so we will see what happens. If Bell and Brown were in the Patriots offense they would put up 50+ a game.

[Crusader]

"They are what we thought they were, and we let them off the hook!"

[whobilly]

Just a few thoughts. 1. We are a middle of the pack team. 2. We must lead the league in one thing.....2 yard pass plays. 3.Daven Hestor has to be released.

[Fastynart]

O come on. Weddle taking the blame yet guess who is on the field, Matt Elam, the guy who can't cover anyone. Why is this guy still on the team? I know why. The Ravens don't want to admit that they blew another first round draft pick, so they will keep this bozo on the roster until his rookie contract expires, then say they can't afford to resign him. He will be out of the NFL once his Baltimore tenure is done.

[The Greek]

  32 minutes ago, fusuymada said:

We have what we have. We continue to show improvement and we will be divisional leaders if we win out. We can and have beaten the Steelers and Bengals and the Eagles will be a win also. I said we should blow this team out and considering the history, I should have known better. Joe is just an average, at best, qb. I have tried to defend him, but he just refuses to put any energy into what he is doing. I think a little sit on the bench for a couple of downs might fire him up a bit. Remember when Suggs was pushing for our own wildcat with Troy Smith and Flacco about freaked out that he was not the one under center. Lets take a couple of practices and have Mallett run the offense or let him come in on the second drive of the game. If Flacco can't motivate himself it is incumbent on the coaches to motivate him. Nothing up to now seems to work so exceptional times require exceptional measures. Will Harbaugh have it in him to do this, probably not, but that is what he needs. He is playing like a diva, he acts like he doesn't want to hurry up, that the game moves at his speed, I would let him test the speed of the bench in that case. Maybe he would study a little more film or learn how to read defenses in that spare time.

One more thing... The Hester experiment is OVER!!!! If he is still on this team at the end of this week and Campanaro isn't called up, then Ozzie and John are idiots. Its a shame the fans have known for weeks what 2 highly paid football executives just can't seem to figure out. We have now become that footnote in Hesters career where people say, yep, he should have quit while he was ahead, but he sure soaked Baltimore for a couple mil.

How will you say joe is just average.. did he miss some passes yes but on the int Wallace looked like he was trying to catch a chair I mean it looked like joe shot 3 pointer how wide Wallace arms were.. breshad perriman had  some nice catches but also missed a pass which was drive killer because he was being lazy wasn't ready for the ball. He's a first round pick he should always expect to get the ball and never look surprised when it's passed to him

the offense needs an overhaul.

[whobilly]

  17 minutes ago, jhulax35 said:

  35 minutes ago, fusuymada said:

We have what we have. We continue to show improvement and we will be divisional leaders if we win out. We can and have beaten the Steelers and Bengals and the Eagles will be a win also. I said we should blow this team out and considering the history, I should have known better. Joe is just an average, at best, qb. I have tried to defend him, but he just refuses to put any energy into what he is doing. I think a little sit on the bench for a couple of downs might fire him up a bit. Remember when Suggs was pushing for our own wildcat with Troy Smith and Flacco about freaked out that he was not the one under center. Lets take a couple of practices and have Mallett run the offense or let him come in on the second drive of the game. If Flacco can't motivate himself it is incumbent on the coaches to motivate him. Nothing up to now seems to work so exceptional times require exceptional measures. Will Harbaugh have it in him to do this, probably not, but that is what he needs. He is playing like a diva, he acts like he doesn't want to hurry up, that the game moves at his speed, I would let him test the speed of the bench in that case. Maybe he would study a little more film or learn how to read defenses in that spare time.

One more thing... The Hester experiment is OVER!!!! If he is still on this team at the end of this week and Campanaro isn't called up, then Ozzie and John are idiots. Its a shame the fans have known for weeks what 2 highly paid football executives just can't seem to figure out. We have now become that footnote in Hesters career where people say, yep, he should have quit while he was ahead, but he sure soaked Baltimore for a couple mil.

How will you say joe is just average.. did he miss some passes yes but on the int Wallace looked like he was trying to catch a chair I mean it looked like joe shot 3 pointer how wide Wallace arms were.. breshad perriman had  some nice catches but also missed a pass which was drive killer because he was being lazy wasn't ready for the ball. He's a first round pick he should always expect to get the ball and never look surprised when it's passed to him

the offense needs an overhaul.

Why an overhaul. You don't like all of the 2 yard passes?

[billiejean]

hester stinks, flacco was awful in the 1st half and too inconsistent as usual, receivers struggled to get separation in the 1st half and have for a few years now. running game?  jimmy is always hurt and oz has failed to upgrade the cb depth. we have gotten nothing out of the return game all season. keenan reynolds would be a much better option. to be honest im not sure this team is worth watching in the playoffs especially if brittle jimmy is out. perriman and correia were dominant once again

You can't just assume Keenan is a better option than Hester based solely on his performance in college and the preseason. I would feel a lot more comfortable with Camp back there. KR is just so raw and kick returner is a position that requires a lot of concentration. But when you haven't returned kicks in college and your first experience playing that position is in the NFL there are going to be some mishaps. Trying to catch a ball while 11 men are running full speed towards you is something that is hard to get used to and can lead to lapses in concentration. Keenan will make a fine returner someday but at this point I would feel much more comfortable with camp.

[The Greek]

My 5 Thoughts:

1. Once again Harbaugh and his infamous "dog-house" has bit us in the butt yet again. West must have done something because he was barely on the field, and yet Devin Hester has been a liability all season and remains on this team because of Harboo's man crush on him. Cut useless Taliafero already and bring up Camp to run back punts.

2. Juice needs to be converted into a tight end. He catches the ball well but his run blocking skills are atrocious.

3. 9 years later and Flacco still cannot read defenses pre-snap. I don't care how many OC's he's had, if you are paying a QB 120 mil he should be able to carry a team on his back. No audibles, no adjustments to coverages. He said they played more man to man than expected yet he did nothing to adjust to it.

4. Jimmy Smith cannot be trusted to play a full 16 game season. This is why he should no longer be our #1 corner. Maybe if Oz puts more effort into drafting secondary players as he does D-line maybe we would finally have some quality DB depth.

5. I don't know what happened to our 2 minute offense but this has become a serious problem all season. They wasted a legit 2 minutes fiddling around at the end of the game when we were down 2 scores. No hurry up, no sense of urgency, no nothing. That's on Joe and Harbaugh. Time management has been piss poor.

I appreciate all that Harbaugh and Flacco has done, but I think it's time to move in a different direction. This team has become a shell of it's former self and I'm not sure we will ever get our swagger back with the 2 of them running this team.

i agree with this post for the most part. harbs deserves one more year imo but it is time for the front office to do a much better job and take blame for several poor drafts and personnel decisions lately. we have needed a cb for a few years now and nothing has been done aside from bringing in retreads. brittle jimmy will never be healthy for a full season with his fat contract. offense relies too much on a 37 y.o. which is sad. i would put joe on the trading block and and see if we can get at least a 3rd for him. go with mallet for a year while we develop another qb from the draft. i believe joe has reached his peak at least with the ravens. maybe he goes elsewhere and plays more consistently but watching him and this offense these past 2 years has been painful. im just venting but a different approach from the organization is needed. hope bisciotti punches his fist through the table at the state of the ravens press conference.

[btfan2]

I have no idea what game you guys were watching. Joe did not play a bad game. He took what was given.

The Ravens were once again out coached period. It's common knowledge the Pats will take away what you want to do. So have a plan to combat that or to go in a different direction. WE did neither. Once again we showed up totally and completely unprepared.

We were flat, uninspired, playing scared (This IMHO was the biggest mistake) with no spirit or drive. Match that with mediocre play calling and poor execution. Though the pats were a big part of the poor execution.

It makes me crazy, we know that the Pats game plan for us down to the tiniest detail and we don't do the same. Everybody looked confused, shocked and intimidated. The run game once again went in the dumper.

I said before that depending on Jimmy Smith was a mistake. He can't stay on the field

Even with being out coached, out planned, out played we still had a chance. Billy McCheat knows the secret that we just don't get -- IT"S IN THE DETAILS!!

[ibleedpurpleandblack]

So Weddle warns everybody on the play action fake, Elam bites on it, let's his receiver run free and it's Weddle's fault (which I know it's the safety who is responsible for deep coverage) but Elam didn't even lay a finger on his guy, just let him run right by him. I'm sorry, you can say what you want but Elam is not a very solid player and has done nothing to warrant a roster spot.

[ibleedpurpleandblack]

  53 minutes ago, fusuymada said:

We have what we have. We continue to show improvement and we will be divisional leaders if we win out. We can and have beaten the Steelers and Bengals and the Eagles will be a win also. I said we should blow this team out and considering the history, I should have known better. Joe is just an average, at best, qb. I have tried to defend him, but he just refuses to put any energy into what he is doing. I think a little sit on the bench for a couple of downs might fire him up a bit. Remember when Suggs was pushing for our own wildcat with Troy Smith and Flacco about freaked out that he was not the one under center. Lets take a couple of practices and have Mallett run the offense or let him come in on the second drive of the game. If Flacco can't motivate himself it is incumbent on the coaches to motivate him. Nothing up to now seems to work so exceptional times require exceptional measures. Will Harbaugh have it in him to do this, probably not, but that is what he needs. He is playing like a diva, he acts like he doesn't want to hurry up, that the game moves at his speed, I would let him test the speed of the bench in that case. Maybe he would study a little more film or learn how to read defenses in that spare time.

One more thing... The Hester experiment is OVER!!!! If he is still on this team at the end of this week and Campanaro isn't called up, then Ozzie and John are idiots. Its a shame the fans have known for weeks what 2 highly paid football executives just can't seem to figure out. We have now become that footnote in Hesters career where people say, yep, he should have quit while he was ahead, but he sure soaked Baltimore for a couple mil.

How will you say joe is just average.. did he miss some passes yes but on the int Wallace looked like he was trying to catch a chair I mean it looked like joe shot 3 pointer how wide Wallace arms were.. breshad perriman had  some nice catches but also missed a pass which was drive killer because he was being lazy wasn't ready for the ball. He's a first round pick he should always expect to get the ball and never look surprised when it's passed to him

Receiver's aren't being lazy - it's a product of the play calling - the play was called to go to a specific receiver, which is what happened and 9/10 when they come out of the huddle Joe is locked on 1 receiver. The only time he's not truly looking for 1 receiver is when they run the hurry up.

[Crusader]

WOW talk about bringing a guy up slowly. Perriman had one (1) catch in game 12, 2 in game 13 ,and 3 in game 14. SOOOO in the Eagles game 14 he should get 4 . WELCOME TO MARTY BALL.

[jhulax35]

  1 hour ago, jhulax35 said:

  1 hour ago, fusuymada said:

We have what we have. We continue to show improvement and we will be divisional leaders if we win out. We can and have beaten the Steelers and Bengals and the Eagles will be a win also. I said we should blow this team out and considering the history, I should have known better. Joe is just an average, at best, qb. I have tried to defend him, but he just refuses to put any energy into what he is doing. I think a little sit on the bench for a couple of downs might fire him up a bit. Remember when Suggs was pushing for our own wildcat with Troy Smith and Flacco about freaked out that he was not the one under center. Lets take a couple of practices and have Mallett run the offense or let him come in on the second drive of the game. If Flacco can't motivate himself it is incumbent on the coaches to motivate him. Nothing up to now seems to work so exceptional times require exceptional measures. Will Harbaugh have it in him to do this, probably not, but that is what he needs. He is playing like a diva, he acts like he doesn't want to hurry up, that the game moves at his speed, I would let him test the speed of the bench in that case. Maybe he would study a little more film or learn how to read defenses in that spare time.

One more thing... The Hester experiment is OVER!!!! If he is still on this team at the end of this week and Campanaro isn't called up, then Ozzie and John are idiots. Its a shame the fans have known for weeks what 2 highly paid football executives just can't seem to figure out. We have now become that footnote in Hesters career where people say, yep, he should have quit while he was ahead, but he sure soaked Baltimore for a couple mil.

How will you say joe is just average.. did he miss some passes yes but on the int Wallace looked like he was trying to catch a chair I mean it looked like joe shot 3 pointer how wide Wallace arms were.. breshad perriman had  some nice catches but also missed a pass which was drive killer because he was being lazy wasn't ready for the ball. He's a first round pick he should always expect to get the ball and never look surprised when it's passed to him

Receiver's aren't being lazy - it's a product of the play calling - the play was called to go to a specific receiver, which is what happened and 9/10 when they come out of the huddle Joe is locked on 1 receiver. The only time he's not truly looking for 1 receiver is when they run the hurry up.

Are you kidding not being lazy on the hot route perriman didn't even raise his arms up to try catch the ball

[Derrel]

Just plain embarrassing. A defensive player jumps over the OL and blocks a chip shot FG?

[Raveforlife19]

Really disappointing game by the offense. No one we were watching the game with understands why Joe keeps throwing these balls that are barely above the line of scrimmage or sometimes, even behind. The Ravens looked as confused and bumbling as they did sure-footed against the Dolphins. Sorry I stayed up for it!

Yea I hate watching those 2 and 3 yard passes! The reason, however, has to do with either play calling or the fact that our WR's are not open in the very small amount of time that Flacco has before hes getting hit (O-line not pass-blocking well enough). In some cases when flacco does happen to get a lot of time in the pocket but still throws it to the check-down, it's on the receivers for not being good enough to get open. When you look at Brady, he has enough time to do his taxes in the pocket AND his receivers get wide open consistently, it makes it pretty easy for him then. All things considered, idk why people are hating on flacco, he finished the game with 350yds 2TDs and a 92 QBR, hardly a poor performance with the way our O-line looked last night. The defense really fell asleep this game.

[The Greek]

O come on. Weddle taking the blame yet guess who is on the field, Matt Elam, the guy who can't cover anyone. Why is this guy still on the team? I know why. The Ravens don't want to admit that they blew another first round draft pick, so they will keep this bozo on the roster until his rookie contract expires, then say they can't afford to resign him. He will be out of the NFL once his Baltimore tenure is done.

belichek will pick him up and make something out of nothing with him. maybe even a pro bowl or 2

[TheConquerorWorm]

So Weddle warns everybody on the play action fake, Elam bites on it, let's his receiver run free and it's Weddle's fault (which I know it's the safety who is responsible for deep coverage) but Elam didn't even lay a finger on his guy, just let him run right by him. I'm sorry, you can say what you want but Elam is not a very solid player and has done nothing to warrant a roster spot.

Tavon was supposed to take over but failed. Watch the play - who is Tavon covering? Elam was taking over the underneath crossing WR (Mitchell), Tavon & Weddle take the deep middle WR (Hogan). It's football coverage 101.

[TheConquerorWorm]

  2 hours ago, fusuymada said:

We have what we have. We continue to show improvement and we will be divisional leaders if we win out. We can and have beaten the Steelers and Bengals and the Eagles will be a win also. I said we should blow this team out and considering the history, I should have known better. Joe is just an average, at best, qb. I have tried to defend him, but he just refuses to put any energy into what he is doing. I think a little sit on the bench for a couple of downs might fire him up a bit. Remember when Suggs was pushing for our own wildcat with Troy Smith and Flacco about freaked out that he was not the one under center. Lets take a couple of practices and have Mallett run the offense or let him come in on the second drive of the game. If Flacco can't motivate himself it is incumbent on the coaches to motivate him. Nothing up to now seems to work so exceptional times require exceptional measures. Will Harbaugh have it in him to do this, probably not, but that is what he needs. He is playing like a diva, he acts like he doesn't want to hurry up, that the game moves at his speed, I would let him test the speed of the bench in that case. Maybe he would study a little more film or learn how to read defenses in that spare time.

One more thing... The Hester experiment is OVER!!!! If he is still on this team at the end of this week and Campanaro isn't called up, then Ozzie and John are idiots. Its a shame the fans have known for weeks what 2 highly paid football executives just can't seem to figure out. We have now become that footnote in Hesters career where people say, yep, he should have quit while he was ahead, but he sure soaked Baltimore for a couple mil.

How will you say joe is just average.. did he miss some passes yes but on the int Wallace looked like he was trying to catch a chair I mean it looked like joe shot 3 pointer how wide Wallace arms were.. breshad perriman had  some nice catches but also missed a pass which was drive killer because he was being lazy wasn't ready for the ball. He's a first round pick he should always expect to get the ball and never look surprised when it's passed to him

Agree 100%. That's why we need a REAL WR COACH! Look what bringing in Frazier did for the secondary. Quit trying to make former players - coaches. There's a reason it typically doesn't work. Love Ed Reed but he's been horrible as a coach in Buffalo.

[ravenken]

I really thought we had pulled it together... that was a pathetic display of Raven football... It was obvious they were playing the pass but we refused to run... instead we kept getting the ball back in Brady's hands... It was not the oline... it really was not the WRs (one or two drops)... but every other aspect of Raven play was real bad... the game planning against Pats weaknesses? none. I thought we had it together. Sad.

[ravenken]

  1 hour ago, ibleedpurpleandblack said:

  2 hours ago, jhulax35 said:

  2 hours ago, fusuymada said:

We have what we have. We continue to show improvement and we will be divisional leaders if we win out. We can and have beaten the Steelers and Bengals and the Eagles will be a win also. I said we should blow this team out and considering the history, I should have known better. Joe is just an average, at best, qb. I have tried to defend him, but he just refuses to put any energy into what he is doing. I think a little sit on the bench for a couple of downs might fire him up a bit. Remember when Suggs was pushing for our own wildcat with Troy Smith and Flacco about freaked out that he was not the one under center. Lets take a couple of practices and have Mallett run the offense or let him come in on the second drive of the game. If Flacco can't motivate himself it is incumbent on the coaches to motivate him. Nothing up to now seems to work so exceptional times require exceptional measures. Will Harbaugh have it in him to do this, probably not, but that is what he needs. He is playing like a diva, he acts like he doesn't want to hurry up, that the game moves at his speed, I would let him test the speed of the bench in that case. Maybe he would study a little more film or learn how to read defenses in that spare time.

One more thing... The Hester experiment is OVER!!!! If he is still on this team at the end of this week and Campanaro isn't called up, then Ozzie and John are idiots. Its a shame the fans have known for weeks what 2 highly paid football executives just can't seem to figure out. We have now become that footnote in Hesters career where people say, yep, he should have quit while he was ahead, but he sure soaked Baltimore for a couple mil.

How will you say joe is just average.. did he miss some passes yes but on the int Wallace looked like he was trying to catch a chair I mean it looked like joe shot 3 pointer how wide Wallace arms were.. breshad perriman had  some nice catches but also missed a pass which was drive killer because he was being lazy wasn't ready for the ball. He's a first round pick he should always expect to get the ball and never look surprised when it's passed to him

Receiver's aren't being lazy - it's a product of the play calling - the play was called to go to a specific receiver, which is what happened and 9/10 when they come out of the huddle Joe is locked on 1 receiver. The only time he's not truly looking for 1 receiver is when they run the hurry up.

Are you kidding not being lazy on the hot route perriman didn't even raise his arms up to try catch the ball

Yes, P-man messed up making a 'rookie' mistake... he should have seen that he was not covered at the line of scrimmage and just should have looked back at Joe ... not wave... not yell... just a quick look and then should have been looking for the ball at the snap... 'rookie' mistake. I WILL say that I was happy Joe saw the breakdown in coverage... small plus

[ravenken]

Yes, Hester has to be history. We have carried him ALL season and nothing but a little bit of misery has come from it.
Flacco and Marty ARE a good combination... they just have to get on the same sheet of music AND the game plan is Marty and he needs to do a better job game planning... I did not see us exploit any weaknesses but I did see us play to the Pats strengths... that was very disappointing.
If we do make it in the playoffs, there is NOTHING in the game that we to go back too.

[81Jimmy]

I have no idea what game you guys were watching. Joe did not play a bad game. He took what was given.

The Ravens were once again out coached period. It's common knowledge the Pats will take away what you want to do. So have a plan to combat that or to go in a different direction. WE did neither. Once again we showed up totally and completely unprepared.

We were flat, uninspired, playing scared (This IMHO was the biggest mistake) with no spirit or drive. Match that with mediocre play calling and poor execution. Though the pats were a big part of the poor execution.

It makes me crazy, we know that the Pats game plan for us down to the tiniest detail and we don't do the same. Everybody looked confused, shocked and intimidated. The run game once again went in the dumper.

I said before that depending on Jimmy Smith was a mistake. He can't stay on the field

Even with being out coached, out planned, out played we still had a chance. Billy McCheat knows the secret that we just don't get -- IT"S IN THE DETAILS!!

I agree with you that we have been outcoached. After we torched the Dolphins with play-action and passes over the middle, Pats LBs disguised blitzes and hung in midfield zone coverage. I really do not understand why we did not adjust in third quarter. Joe, I agree he had an average game. However, I wonder why he looked so uncomfortable, did not audible a lot and obviously lost his coolness in primetime games. The latter scares me most..

[MadStorkSociety]

4 hours ago, The Greek said:

i did say in some ways. just venting some but if brittle jimmy is out than the secondary will give up a ton of points to real qb's and we will end up with a bottom of the 1st draft pick that oz may blow.

Well, i feel your frustration. 

[Crusader]

Seriously, I watch two High School Championships games this last week and they played better than the Ravens. When the game was over you never walked away say "Man that was Stupid" and you knew they really tried. Definitely not "What are you doing?"

[TheConquerorWorm]

Seriously, I watch two High School Championships games this last week and they played better than the Ravens. When the game was over you never walked away say "Man that was Stupid" and you knew they really tried. Definitely not "What are you doing?"

more Troll drivel....

[Glen1024]

I appreciate all that Harbaugh and Flacco has done, but I think it's time to move in a different direction. This team has become a shell of it's former self and I'm not sure we will ever get our swagger back with the 2 of them running this team.

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agree with this post for the most part. harbs deserves one more year imo but it is time for the front office to do a much better job and take blame for several poor drafts and personnel decisions lately. we have needed a cb for a few years now and nothing has been done aside from bringing in retreads. brittle jimmy will never be healthy for a full season with his fat contract. offense relies too much on a 37 y.o. which is sad. i would put joe on the trading block and and see if we can get at least a 3rd for him. go with mallet for a year while we develop another qb from the draft. i believe joe has reached his peak at least with the ravens. maybe he goes elsewhere and plays more consistently but watching him and this offense these past 2 years has been painful. im just venting but a different approach from the organization is needed. hope bisciotti punches his fist through the table at the state of the ravens press conference.

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My belief is that harbaugh and Flacco have already reached the apex of what have/can accomplish together and increasingly it's looking as a break up is in order for the team to reach the next level.  I love both men for getting us over the top 4 years ago....but that was 4 years ago and the mediocrity that's been in place since is leading to this eventual break up. And I say eventually because after 9 years together they are who they are. I would keep flacco and look for an offensive minded coach and try to get the best out of Flacco these next few years vs. Getting rid of Flacco and then trusting Ozzie to be able to draft and then have harbaugh develop that talent