Next Up: Ravens vs Eagles M&T Bank Stadium December 18, 1300

[rmcjacket23]

Just now, omar586 said:

thanx, lol, philly is not joke, they have decent D to shut down our napping offense, our D can't stay for ever on the field. for god sake they made pats punt 3 times early in the game, yet our offense couldn't muster any points. cincy and pit as we all know are tough games as it is, let alone when u dont have ur best CB. how is gonna cover AB, AJ.

Jimmy doesn't usually do man coverage exclusively on Brown. Brown moves all over the formation and runs plenty of routes out of the slot, which Jimmy rarely (if ever) comes down to play.

Plus, its not a requirement to stop Brown in order to win. We won 30-17 in Pittsburgh in the 2014 playoff game with a far worse secondary than we have now, and Brown caught 9/117 in that game.

AJ Green, however, is a Raven killer and would be a definite problem.

[Militant X 1]

40 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Jimmy doesn't usually do man coverage exclusively on Brown. Brown moves all over the formation and runs plenty of routes out of the slot, which Jimmy rarely (if ever) comes down to play.

Plus, its not a requirement to stop Brown in order to win. We won 30-17 in Pittsburgh in the 2014 playoff game with a far worse secondary than we have now, and Brown caught 9/117 in that game.

AJ Green, however, is a Raven killer and would be a definite problem.

A.J. has definitely been the Ravens kryptonite that is for sure.  If Jimmy can't go as you mentioned in a few posts back....who is on our roster that could possibly slow Green down?

[reed20]

19 hours ago, Cillmatic said:

Name them.

We drafted Jimmy didn't we? And just drafted Tavon.

[poescrows]

sure would like to see more then 4 run plays in the first half this week..........

[757RavensFan]

3 hours ago, VermontRaven said:

Just saw this reported on ESPN:

Jamison Hensley ESPN Staff Writer 

It was an emotional Thursday at Ravens headquarters, from Steve Smith throwing his helmet to coach John Harbaugh's emotional end-of-practice talk to the team. "You have to understand, we're all a little messed up," LB Terrell Suggs said. "It was an emotional loss (at New England). We really wanted that one. We're just a little edgy. But I think it's good to be a little edgy in December."

 

Not sure if this is a good sign or a bad sign.  I could see it going either way.  This emotion could spark them or it could mean the team starts to unravel.  Hopefully, they come out firing vs. the Eagles!

Reminds me of the so called "mutiny" when Pollard was on the team right before the team went on a Superbowl run.  We could only be so lucky, if a few bruised egos led them to the promise land. 

[redrum52]

13 minutes ago, 757RavensFan said:

Reminds me of the so called "mutiny" when Pollard was on the team right before the team went on a Superbowl run.  We could only be so lucky, if a few bruised egos led them to the promise land. 

Doubt it has the same outcome.

4 hours ago, VermontRaven said:

Just saw this reported on ESPN:

Jamison Hensley ESPN Staff Writer 

It was an emotional Thursday at Ravens headquarters, from Steve Smith throwing his helmet to coach John Harbaugh's emotional end-of-practice talk to the team. "You have to understand, we're all a little messed up," LB Terrell Suggs said. "It was an emotional loss (at New England). We really wanted that one. We're just a little edgy. But I think it's good to be a little edgy in December."

 

Not sure if this is a good sign or a bad sign.  I could see it going either way.  This emotion could spark them or it could mean the team starts to unravel.  Hopefully, they come out firing vs. the Eagles!

I don't fault him.  He busted his butt and came back to be a part of this crap show.  Also, the fact he probably would've had a ring if he went to NE.

[RavensDieHard21]

This is a team we need to come back and blow out at home. Their strength is their front 7. They will crowd the line and attempt to blitz often. Flacco must burn them and their corners. On offense they have a rookie and no run game. Jimmy should  rest and try to be back for Christmas. Hopefully 2 weeks of rest will help 

[Ravens4Real]

54 minutes ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

This is a team we need to come back and blow out at home. Their strength is their front 7. They will crowd the line and attempt to blitz often. Flacco must burn them and their corners. On offense they have a rookie and no run game. Jimmy should  rest and try to be back for Christmas. Hopefully 2 weeks of rest will help 

That's why people would like to hear the diagnosis of what happened to Jimmy.

If it's a low ankle sprain, then he could be back by next Sunday. But a typical low ankle sprain can be diagnosed on the spot because the ankle usually folds over. Basically what you picture in your head as an ankle sprain and the video of the injury did not show that at all.

If it's a high, there's not a chance he can make it back and it would probably be in the best interest of the team to not have him play. High ankle sprains are small tears to the ligaments that hold together the tibia and fibia. If he were to go out and try to play and completely tear the ligaments, that would result in a potential break in those bones and disalignment in his leg. Obviously both of those would take him out not only any games this year, but could potentially hinder next year also.

A normal ankle sprain can be played through. Pop a couple pain killers and tape it well enough and a player can gut it out. You simply can't do that with a high ankle sprain.

Edited December 16, 2016 by Ravens4Real

[Cillmatic]

Looks like Suggs and Steve actually understand what's going on. 

[K-Dog]

6 hours ago, Drew P said:

The Ravens wanted the game handed to them they didn't want to play for it.

Really?  They did?
That was silly of them.  Why would they think such a thing was even possible?

[BigMike]

We win...that is all......

  

[DomMcRaven]

36 minutes ago, BigMike said:

We win...that is all......

  

We better. 

[jazz1988]

On 12/14/2016 at 3:11 PM, Deflated Football said:

Yup. We'd be the laughing stock of the NFL if we cut Jimmy. The only person that needs to be blamed in a situation like this is Ozzie because he sticks to bargain bin signings at Corner with the likes of Powers and Shareece. You can never have enough good Corners

 

I don't see how Ozzie wouldn't have wanted to re-sign Shareece Wright after how he played so well last year. I know the guy been inconsistent but he played quite well in the last game against The Patriots. J Powers can be  inconsistent but for the most part I think he has been  a solid nickel corner for The Ravens so far but  it wasn't like 2016 free agent class was deep at the cornerback position either.  I believe The Ravens losing Sheldon Price,  Jumall Rolle and Maurice Canady  didn't make things better for their secondary along with Will Davis not panning out. 

[EdTheMythicalOne]

I am just wondering which halves the offense and/or defense will go into comas.

Line up in pro formation, lead FB, run the dang ball down the Eagles throat repeatedly. Stop trying all these gimmicky formation shifts that usually get us for a false start or illegal formation penalties. Stop going with Dixon/West split out wide only to shift him into single back into the backfield and then always running from that formation. The Pats knew that was coming every single time. We got some tough interior guys like Yanda and Ducasse and I think Zuttah is a gamer along with Wager. The only one that I don't really see as a bulldog yet is Stanley, but my goodness. Put a hat on a hat and knock the slobber out of some guys. It is like the Ravens are afraid of the run game or something.

Hey guess what? You can still pass out of the pro formation. You still have a TE in the game, you still have Juice in the game, you still have 2 WR's in the game, and you supposedly have one of the best all around rookies in the backfield as well as Buck Allen who is supposedly a great receiving back. You can still do some nice play action passes out of that formation.

Maybe Joe can carry an offense in the right system and with the right guys around him that have learned it, but clearly that's not the case this season. If we can see this I know sure as heck the coaches see it. It is their job to adjust and get something that works the best for the talent they have on hand. So far, they've done a miserable job of this.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

1 hour ago, jazz1988 said:

 

I don't see how Ozzie wouldn't have wanted to re-sign Shareece Wright after how he played so well last year. I know the guy been inconsistent but he played quite well in the last game against The Patriots. J Powers can be  inconsistent but for the most part I think he has been  a solid nickel corner for The Ravens so far but  it wasn't like 2016 free agent class was deep at the cornerback position either.  I believe The Ravens losing Sheldon Price,  Jumall Rolle and Maurice Canady  didn't make things better for their secondary along with Will Davis not panning out. 

I think it is always a gamble to sign a guy to a big contract extension after 1/2 to 3/4 of a season of strong play. I was really worried about that with Wright before the preseason started and I expressed those concerns back then. Powers hasn't been as much of a help as I thought he'd be.

Kyle Arrington probably would have been cut had he not gotten injured unless he showed something and I had no thoughts at all that Canaday as a 7th round pick with confidence issues coming out of college would be much help.

With how the team looks on defense with and without Jimmy Smith, the Ravens better so something to sure up the corners. They's solidified the back end for the most part.

[I*Bleed*Purple]

6 hours ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

Their strength is their front 7. They will crowd the line and attempt to blitz often. 

Well then we're screwed. We MIGHT get past the Eagles, but we'll lose our last two games. 

[Marcus_Aurelius]

On 14/12/2016 at 1:48 PM, Marcus_Aurelius said:

I know this sounds a bit off topic but doesn't the playing surface at M T & T play a big part in the game.  I mean I know the players prefer playing on real turf instead of the plastic sand crap but it must be a major factor. Does anyone happen to know the percentage of stadiums with real grass these days in the American Conference ? and what we are playing on in the last 3 games ? 

Apart from a couple of cheap shots at the typo regarding the Stadium name, nice play....... how much of a factor is the playing surface ? 

[Tank 92]

1 hour ago, Marcus_Aurelius said:

Apart from a couple of cheap shots at the typo regarding the Stadium name, nice play....... how much of a factor is the playing surface ? 

They've all played on it since high school, so I would say no disadvantage. I think if they were any advantage involved with playing surface it would be on natural turf and to the guys that usually play on that, especially if there were adverse weather conditions.

[stampedehero]

We must not lose to the hoard coming down I-95.  I think we could survive without Jimmy in this game but certainly it would be a defensive task for the remaining away games with Steelers and Bengals.  Regarding the NE game: The Hogan catch deep downfield to make it 29-20 was so painful to look at that the usual curse words were not suitable.  It amazes me that No other team has a 96-1 stat starting the second half with a lead . That is great coaching! I have to give them stratosphere appreciation for a stat like that.  

[stampedehero]

December 18,1300??? Topic Title?  Who Knows? Maybe that can work in our favor

[reed20]

7 hours ago, jazz1988 said:

 

I don't see how Ozzie wouldn't have wanted to re-sign Shareece Wright after how he played so well last year. I know the guy been inconsistent but he played quite well in the last game against The Patriots. J Powers can be  inconsistent but for the most part I think he has been  a solid nickel corner for The Ravens so far but  it wasn't like 2016 free agent class was deep at the cornerback position either.  I believe The Ravens losing Sheldon Price,  Jumall Rolle and Maurice Canady  didn't make things better for their secondary along with Will Davis not panning out. 

Powers has been awful. Every first down made has been against Wright or Powers.

[reed20]

On a positive note, Flacco is on pace for 4400 yards passing which would be a franchise record.

[I*Bleed*Purple]

28 minutes ago, reed20 said:

On a positive note, Flacco is on pace for 4400 yards passing which would be a franchise record.

Woo

[Moderator 3]

2 hours ago, stampedehero said:

December 18,1300??? Topic Title?  Who Knows? Maybe that can work in our favor

1300 = 1:00PM

[OUravensfan]

1 hour ago, reed20 said:

On a positive note, Flacco is on pace for 4400 yards passing which would be a franchise record.

Hope it happens, then we can check that box and get back to getting a run game to compliment his skill set much better 

Edited December 16, 2016 by OUravensfan

[Edgar]

Really ought to pummel this team and I expect we do.

[ludy51]

Break out game!

[Rav'n Maniac]

4 minutes ago, ludy51 said:

Break out game!

Brace yourself, the wrath of Mili is upon you. 

[VermontRaven]

19 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

I'm not expecting to see Jimmy for probably the rest of the year. Has all the sounds and looks of a high ankle sprain, which is a 4-6 week injury.

If we needed the roster spot badly enough, I would bet they would put him on IR. But we're largely healthy elsewhere, so probably no need to put him on IR.

I have a feeling Jimmy is done for the rest of the regular season, but no way we put him on IR unless we no there is ZERO chance he could return at any point in a possible postseason run.  We all know the difference in our defense with and without Jimmy.

[Rav'n Maniac]

37 minutes ago, VermontRaven said:

I have a feeling Jimmy is done for the rest of the regular season, but no way we put him on IR unless we no there is ZERO chance he could return at any point in a possible postseason run.  We all know the difference in our defense with and without Jimmy.

Maybe they should take the Jimmy to 34th Street. We could use a Christmas miracle about now.