Week 14: The Good, the Bad, the Ugly discussion/rant Patriots edition

[redrum52]

35 minutes ago, terps85 said:

Wow.  The protection speaks for itself, but there is exactly 0 cumulative yards of separation there too.

This play was lost the moment the ball was snapped.

[Militant X 1]

52 minutes ago, codizzle said:

Here's a game to play.. can you spot how many glaring problems there are in this one screenshot 

(ninkovich sack play)

I'll play....

1. Receivers locked up

2. 3 Ravens blocking 1 Patriot

3. 1 Raven blocking 3 Patriots

4. 2 Ravens blocking 1 Patriot to the ground

5. 1 Patriot on the ground

6. A Patriot safety near the endzone

7. TONS of running room for Joe Flacco to scramble out of for a BIG GAIN!!

[Militant X 1]

53 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

 

Good riddance! 

[usmccharles]

So how long Until camp gets hurt?  2 games,  I'll take the under

[Tornado700]

I knew we would lose, but not that bad. The Pats and Brady slapped us around like a red headed step child. It was hard to watch and embarrassing on national TV. This team is not playoff capable. No way we beat Pittsburgh at Heinz.

[Deflated Football]

https://www.google.com/amp/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/2016/12/13/13941212/ravens-released-veteran-return-man-devin-hester-and-were-kind-of-mean-about-it?client=safari

 

I sincerely hope this person doesn't get paid to write 

[PuRock]

1 hour ago, Militant X 1 said:

I'll play....

1. Receivers locked up

2. 3 Ravens blocking 1 Patriot

3. 1 Raven blocking 3 Patriots

4. 2 Ravens blocking 1 Patriot to the ground

5. 1 Patriot on the ground

6. A Patriot safety near the endzone

7. TONS of running room for Joe Flacco to scramble out of for a BIG GAIN!!

Not sure where you see #7. He's going down in a matter of seconds with 3 free defenders within four feet.  

[ravensdfan]

4 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

That was 100% a shot at Harbaugh...

Yes we agreed on that - but, still, who exactly is responsible for coaching the defense?

[BmoreBird22]

16 minutes ago, ravensdfan said:

Yes we agreed on that - but, still, who exactly is responsible for coaching the defense?

Several coaches...

[jboy19]

24 minutes ago, Deflated Football said:

https://www.google.com/amp/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/2016/12/13/13941212/ravens-released-veteran-return-man-devin-hester-and-were-kind-of-mean-about-it?client=safari

 

I sincerely hope this person doesn't get paid to write 

That article is hilariously bad. I wonder if that "writer" writes a post every time a player gets released calling it "mean." 

[Neal Could Block the SUN!!]

So many good points about this horrible effort at NFL caliber football.

 

The Tucker onsides was a complete debacle.  Fine, if you want to go for the onsides, do it!  Knock off the flaming river dance preliminary.  Harbs ain't fooling nobody with that.

 

Flacco needs to lead receivers.  Perriman and Wallace can fly, yet time and time again slowing down to let the ball catch up to them.  Mile High Miracle never happens with these pathetic throws.  Zero touch on throws to the RB to boot.  Seems like Dixon and West are trying to catch 90 mph fastballs from 5 yards away.  Of course the balls are a foot behind them to ice the cake.

 

Harbaugh needs to understand that he is not a legendary coach because of the SB47 result.  He needs to coach this team like his job depends on it because it does.  Sick and tired of the jogging to the line while we trail and zero input from the coach to clean this mess up.

 

Vanilla play calling maybe because Joe doesn't want to study the plays long enough to make the team better.  Much easier to count his cash and play with his kids then play winning RAVENS football.  Bring on Mallett!  We may lose a few while he learns the big leagues but at least he'll give a Crap!

Edited December 13, 2016 by Neal Could Block the SUN!!

[Tru11]

20 minutes ago, ravensdfan said:

Yes we agreed on that - but, still, who exactly is responsible for coaching the defense?

coaches that work underneath the coordinator....

how many times do people have to say this before you get it?

 

[terps85]

36 minutes ago, Deflated Football said:

https://www.google.com/amp/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/2016/12/13/13941212/ravens-released-veteran-return-man-devin-hester-and-were-kind-of-mean-about-it?client=safari

 

I sincerely hope this person doesn't get paid to write 

Hopefully they send him flowers or something. Can't believe I'm a fan of such a mean football team!

[flynismo]

13 minutes ago, Neal Could Block the SUN!! said:

So many good points about this horrible effort at NFL caliber football.

 

The Tucker onsides was a complete debacle.  Fine, if you want to go for the onsides, do it!  Knock off the flaming river dance preliminary.  Harbs ain't fooling nobody with that.

 

Flacco needs to lead receivers.  Perriman and Wallace can fly, yet time and time again slowing down to let the ball catch up to them.  Mile High Miracle never happens with these pathetic throws.  Zero touch on throws to the RB to boot.  Seems like Dixon and West are trying to catch 90 mph fastballs from 5 yards away.  Of course the balls are a foot behind them to ice the cake.

 

Harbaugh needs to understand that he is not a legendary coach because of the SB47 result.  He needs to coach this team like his job depends on it because it does.  Sick and tired of the jogging to the line while we trail and zero input from the coach to clean this mess up.

 

Vanilla play calling maybe because Joe doesn't want to study the plays long enough to make the team better.  Much easier to count his cash and play with his kids then play winning RAVENS football.  Bring on Mallett!  We may lose a few while he learns the big leagues but at least he'll give a Crap!

I agree. Flacco clearly doesn't give a crap, all he wants to do is count his money and play with his kids. Thank you for this intelligent post, I'm sure the homers will disagree with you though.

[flynismo]

4 hours ago, codizzle said:

Here's a game to play.. can you spot how many glaring problems there are in this one screenshot 

(ninkovich sack play)

LOL!!

Triple teaming one guy while Wagner has three rushers crashing in on him, doubling up the guy behind Flacco while Nankovich comes in untouched...I mean it absolutely blows my mind that six blockers vs five pass rushers, and we find a way to let three guys come in untouched. And our receivers STILL find a way to get blanketed! 

[January J]

2 hours ago, mg90 said:

I could live with the result comfortably if Jimmy wasn't lost.  Especially given that we finally cut ties with Hester.  I've never been so afraid of the other teams punting in my life!

I feel the exact same way.

[RayRayRaven]

9 hours ago, edthehead said:

cant argue with that.  thought the defense was coming around and the Pats laid a 500 yard burger on us and that was with two muffed kicks. rarely do the ravens get +2 turnovers and not win.  thought our O was ready to purr and flacco got to back footin and checkin down again.  we capitalized on those two muffs or we weren't even in the game getting outgained by 150 yards even with the +2.   We have decent players but no stars like in 2012.  So if that is pollard tweetin hes sayin like it is fur sur

[Sir Spooky]

11 minutes ago, flynismo said:

LOL!!

Triple teaming one guy while Wagner has three rushers crashing in on him, doubling up the guy behind Flacco while Nankovich comes in untouched...I mean it absolutely blows my mind that six blockers vs five pass rushers, and we find a way to let three guys come in untouched. And our receivers STILL find a way to get blanketed! Jesus

 

 

It's 6 on 6 or should be at least. I think Juice looks like he was blocking cuz it doesn't like he was sneaking out to run a route. 

If there was more time, Flacco could have maybe attempted a throw to Pitta in the back corner of the endzone. 

Edited December 13, 2016 by Sir Spooky

[RayRayRaven]

9 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Also, I really don't understand how Joe can go from the play he had in Miami to the play he just had in New England.

And it's not just about not passing downfield (he took one pass over 10 yards in Miami). It's about the ball placement and his mechanics. In Miami, he stood in there and delivered dimes that were in front of the receivers and put at chest level to allow for YAC. In this game, passes were low, high, and behind, but rarely ever were they in a good position for YAC. He had a few good throws in the second half, but he was overwhelmingly bad in this game.

agree with what  you saw entirely. entirely different qb in those two games. vs Miami he had his swag. vs the cheats he regressed. joe is like a box of chocolates you never know what you're gonna get, expect that it won't be the chocolate you want

[RayRayRaven]

9 hours ago, rmw10 said:

Yep.  He was scared from the first snap.  The pressure wasn't even that great but he was still panicking in the pocket and looking for the checkdown almost immediately.  I still like Flacco obviously, but he's going to need some serious work this offseason in efforts to get him back to his normal self.

flacco took an early hit to the facemask with a shoulder and from that point on he looked rattled.  someone said how many long balls are waited on by the receivers and its been that way for a couple years. overthrowing is a miss sur and that could be part of his strategy to underthrow it some. but between not hitting guys in stride and not reading the defense accurately we need a running game. why was there none again?

Edited December 13, 2016 by RayRayRaven

[OUravensfan]

1 hour ago, Neal Could Block the SUN!! said:

So many good points about this horrible effort at NFL caliber football.

 

The Tucker onsides was a complete debacle.  Fine, if you want to go for the onsides, do it!  Knock off the flaming river dance preliminary.  Harbs ain't fooling nobody with that.

 

Flacco needs to lead receivers.  Perriman and Wallace can fly, yet time and time again slowing down to let the ball catch up to them.  Mile High Miracle never happens with these pathetic throws.  Zero touch on throws to the RB to boot.  Seems like Dixon and West are trying to catch 90 mph fastballs from 5 yards away.  Of course the balls are a foot behind them to ice the cake.

 

Harbaugh needs to understand that he is not a legendary coach because of the SB47 result.  He needs to coach this team like his job depends on it because it does.  Sick and tired of the jogging to the line while we trail and zero input from the coach to clean this mess up.

 

Vanilla play calling maybe because Joe doesn't want to study the plays long enough to make the team better.  Much easier to count his cash and play with his kids then play winning RAVENS football.  Bring on Mallett!  We may lose a few while he learns the big leagues but at least he'll give a Crap!

Yea bring on Mallet.

I hate football

[the_pope]

the good is the season is almost over,  the bad is the ravens.  the ugly is the offense

 

[omar586]

4 hours ago, codizzle said:

Here's a game to play.. can you spot how many glaring problems there are in this one screenshot 

(ninkovich sack play)

wow, this is ugly , u have 2 on one, 3 on 1, and 1 on 3. and 3 free pass rushers coming to wack flacco, lol

[OUravensfan]

9 minutes ago, omar586 said:

wow, this is ugly , u have 2 on one, 3 on 1, and 1 on 3. and 3 free pass rushers coming to wack flacco, lol

Only good OC in the history of the Ravens is Gary Kubiak,but we did win a Super Bowl largely because of our offense that utilized an Air Coryell Cam Cameron offense, something to be said about that. 

I'm done with Trestman ball, way too inconsistent and way too much pressure on the QB.

[omar586]

6 minutes ago, OUravensfan said:

Only good OC in the history of the Ravens is Gary Kubiak,but we did win a Super Bowl largely because of our offense that utilized an Air Coryell Cam Cameron offense, something to be said about that. 

I'm done with Trestman ball, way too inconsistent and way too much pressure on the QB.

i loved kubes offense, it was unstoppable in the running game, anyone can run in that ZBS, and he was creative. this offense looks like they;re playing to lose the game or something

[Doc]

The Good NE

The Bad The Ravens

The Ugly How The Ravens played

It's one thing when we Win Ugly but last night...." Come On Man"

[ThatsMyJoeTerback]

The only thing I like about the Patriots is that Aly Raisman likes them. 

[ravensdfan]

2 hours ago, Tru11 said:

coaches that work underneath the coordinator....

how many times do people have to say this before you get it?

 

lmbo Don't know why coordinators ever get fired then right? Since nothing is their fault or responsibility.

[ravensdfan]

42 minutes ago, omar586 said:

wow, this is ugly , u have 2 on one, 3 on 1, and 1 on 3. and 3 free pass rushers coming to wack flacco, lol

But someone said Flacco had plenty of room to scramble for a big gain.

[Militant X 1]

3 hours ago, PuRock said:

Not sure where you see #7. He's going down in a matter of seconds with 3 free defenders within four feet.  

 

49 minutes ago, ravensdfan said:

But someone said Flacco had plenty of room to scramble for a big gain.

That somebody was me and I stand by it.  

I see plenty of space in general. Perhaps my perspective is based upon my love for mobile QB's who wouldn't have waited for the pocket to collapse like that before taking off?  Any way you see it..it's bad!

Edited December 14, 2016 by Militant X 1
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