2017 NFL Draft - RB's

[usmccharles]

7 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

I'd like that to happen because it would push some of my preferred prospects at other positions down but in trying to fit them into spots before us I always get stuck or the fit doesn't feel right... which teams do you reckon could take them realistically ahead of us?

Jags, Jets, Eagles, Colts, I could even see the Panthers taking one.  And im with you, hope they go before us to leave us talent at other positions. 

[usmccharles]

has anyone mentioned Khalfani Muhammad? i dont know much about him, anyone have a take on him?

[omar586]

On 2/24/2017 at 7:07 PM, RaineV1 said:

Yeah, I don't think the Ravens would touch Cook with a ten foot pole.

There's an underrated, small school guy that could be a perfect fit as a receiving back for the Ravens, Tarik Cohen, from North Carolina A&T. He's undersized so longevity could be a concern. That aside he has amazing vision, patience, great burst, the ability to walk the tightrope along the sideline for extra yards, and his ability to change directions on a dime is unreal. He's like a young Darren Sproles.

 

this guy is a beast, a steal.

[January J]

15 minutes ago, omar586 said:

this guy is a beast, a steal.

Dang he's a short little dude but yeah he's pretty smoothe.  Does remind me of a Darren sproles.  Being that short can be a great advantage BC the defense often cant even see which direction he's going behind the line and before you know it he's hit the hole and he's gone.

[hn68wb4]

Just realized that Cohen is at the Combine, so he's another one to look for. There's a few small school guys there that are really interesting.

[ravensnation5220]

53 minutes ago, hn68wb4 said:

Just realized that Cohen is at the Combine, so he's another one to look for. There's a few small school guys there that are really interesting.

He came in at 5'6 169 but with 10 1/8 inch hands lol

[ravensnation5220]

Leonard fournette weighed in at 240. Damn......foreman only weighed 233

[ravensnation5220]

D'Onta Foreman had a 4.45 40 yard dash at his pro day weighing 233. That's pretty impressive. However he always seemed to get caught from behind on tape. 

Edited March 29 by ravensnation5220

[raven94]

1 hour ago, ravensnation5220 said:

D'Onta Foreman had a 4.45 40 yard dash at his pro day weighing 233. That's pretty impressive. However he always seemed to get caught from behind on tape. 

well in his defense his playing weight was like 249

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Jahad Thomas from Temple. 

undersized but Matt Ruhl produces football players even if they come on smaller packages (Tavon, Reddick). The kid has great vision and just makes people miss. Really smooth with the ball in his hands.

Isn't running through contact but sees space others don't and has the quickness/change of direction to cut past would be tacklers.

He was a leader on that overachieving team for 2 years, and arguably their most dangerous offensive player. 

Also very dangerous receiver out of the back field and the slot.

 

Def a late rounder/UDFA prospect. Might not take him even with the 6th but if he goes undrafted I hope he's a priority for us. Reunite him with Tavon.... make us Temple NFL. Cuz I love Reddick and Dawkins too... wouldn't hate that combo 1st/2nd. 

All these guys are just football players. Shame Ruhl left for Baylor.... but I guarantee Baylor starts pumping out consistent prospects that succeed in the NFL starting in a year or 2. 

Edited March 30 by BOLDnPurPnBlacK

[ravensnation5220]

2 hours ago, raven94 said:

well in his defense his playing weight was like 249

Ya but how do we know that for sure. Can we really trust school measurements

[raven94]

9 hours ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Ya but how do we know that for sure. Can we really trust school measurements

To be honest......yes, he looked pretty dang thick during the season. And he looks like he's shed a few pounds

[Maryland]

If you want a consolidated list of reasons to hate Joe Mixon, I've done the work for you:

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Alleged incident from high school

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When the Norman, Okla. police released a video in February in which they interviewed Molitor after the incident with Mixon, Molitor's lawyers read a report from someone named Anthony Hernandez, alleging that Mixon punched his daughter while he was high school.

"I know for a fact he threw my daughter to the ground and hit her. I went to the school and...they hid him in the office. He got no punishment. The police even came. I was escorted off the campus as if I did something wrong. These are simply the facts, he's a woman beater," the report said.

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Video where Mixon assaults Amelia Molitor, breaking four facial bones (I'll let you Google that one yourself)
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Orange Bowl presser excerpts concerning the Molitor incident

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Are you sorry about what happened?
Mixon: “I won’t answer that.”
Do you have any regrets at all about anything?
Mixon: "No."
What did you learn about yourself during your one-year suspension?
Mixon: “What do you mean what did I learn?” (This was followed by Oklahoma spokesman Mike Houck, seated next to Mixon and chiming in periodically, reiterating that Mixon only wants to answer football-related questions.)
Did the one-year suspension change you?
Mixon: “I don’t think it changed who I am, but it definitely made me a stronger person.”
What did you mean by your tweet in September, quickly deleted, that said this season is dedicated to your haters?
Mixon: “I know what I meant by it. Y’all just blew it out of proportion.”
How would you describe yourself as a person?
Mixon: “A great person. If you get to know me as a person, you’ll know how I am.”
Do you want to address what happened at some point in the future?
Mixon: “My lawyer will address it.”
When?
Mixon: “You’ve got to ask him.”

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Sugar Bowl fake-punching TD celebration
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Intimidating a female parking attendant after being issued a citation (not long after being reinstated)

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Joe Mixon was so frustrated with a parking citation that he tore up the ticket in front of the parking attendant and threw it at the parking attendant.
Mixon reportedly approached the parking attendant right after the citation was written.
"Don't put that [stuff] in my face," Mixon told the attendant, the incident report states.
Mixon then ripped the citation in half and threw it at the parking attendant.
Mixon then got into his vehicle and "inched at the officer with vehicle in drive to intimidate the officer with vehicle," the report details.

 

Worth mentioning because I saw Charlie Campbell suggest the Ravens as a fit for Mixon, as absurd as that is to suggest in the wake of the RR saga.

[rossihunter2]

6 hours ago, Maryland said:

If you want a consolidated list of reasons to hate Joe Mixon, I've done the work for you:

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Alleged incident from high school

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Video where Mixon assaults Amelia Molitor, breaking four facial bones (I'll let you Google that one yourself)
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Orange Bowl presser excerpts concerning the Molitor incident

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Sugar Bowl fake-punching TD celebration
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Intimidating a female parking attendant after being issued a citation (not long after being reinstated)

 

Worth mentioning because I saw Charlie Campbell suggest the Ravens as a fit for Mixon, as absurd as that is to suggest in the wake of the RR saga.

I mean even before the other incidents the video one instantly made him undraftable for the Ravens - the others just make him less draftable for other teams

[January J]

28 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

I mean even before the other incidents the video one instantly made him undraftable for the Ravens - the others just make him less draftable for other teams

Esp playing the same damn position as RR..That just has media crapstorm written all over it.

[jazz1988]

7 hours ago, Maryland said:

If you want a consolidated list of reasons to hate Joe Mixon, I've done the work for you:

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Alleged incident from high school

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Video where Mixon assaults Amelia Molitor, breaking four facial bones (I'll let you Google that one yourself)
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Orange Bowl presser excerpts concerning the Molitor incident

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Sugar Bowl fake-punching TD celebration
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Intimidating a female parking attendant after being issued a citation (not long after being reinstated)

 

Worth mentioning because I saw Charlie Campbell suggest the Ravens as a fit for Mixon, as absurd as that is to suggest in the wake of the RR saga.

 Hate is  a strong word. The first link you shared was later on cleared up here . I have seen the video  concerning  Amelia Molitor  and it's not pretty  but she did hit him first . I'm not going off by moral standards but by  law in this situation she would have been the aggressor which she was . I was not able to access the link concerning the Orange Bowl presser and it seems like the article was dropped or maybe you copied the link wrong. I watch the suppose Sugar Bowl fake punch and I think that's serious reach  but I'm not surprised anyone would try to reach that fair. Overall when it comes to Joe  Mixon I think teams have to consider are they going to judge this man off his actions when he was teenager or are they going to judge him as a man because most of those situations happened when he was a kid.

 

I don't expect The Ravens to draft him or have interest in him even though Mixon past issues are not domestic violence related.I perfectly understand that I will get neg for this but I'm no where near saying what this man did was right or saying it's ok for a man to hit a woman. I think no matter the gender people should keep their hands to themselves and violence is not something  I like to see. 

Edited April 20 by jazz1988

[rossihunter2]

19 minutes ago, jazz1988 said:

 Hate is  a strong word. The first link you shared was later on cleared up here . I have seen the video  concerning  Amelia Molitor  and it's not pretty  but by law she was the aggressor in this situation . I'm not going off by moral standards but law in this situation. I was not able to access the link concerning the Orange Bowl presser and it seems like the article was dropped or maybe you copied the link wrong. I watch the suppose Sugar Bowl fake punch and I think that's serious reach  but I'm not surprised anyone would try to reach that fair. Overall when it comes to Joe  Mixon I think teams have to consider are they going to judge this man off his actions when he was teenager or are they going to judge him as a man because most of those situations happened when he was a kid.

 

I don't expect The Ravens to draft him or have interest in him even though Mixon past issues are not domestic violence related.I perfectly understand that I will get neg for this but I'm no where near saying what this man did was right or saying it's ok for a man to hit a woman. I think no matter the gender people should keep their hands to themselves and violence is not something  I like to see. 

Not everyone deserves a second chance... especially when they are unrepentant and even unapologetic

[Jacquouille]

There's not a prospect I'm overly attached to this year, but I would do some crazy things to see Nick Chubb play in Purple and Black.

Edited April 20 by Jacquouille

[jazz1988]

15 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

Not everyone deserves a second chance... especially when they are unrepentant and even unapologetic

There's a video on youtube of Joe Mixon apologizing to Amelia Molitor. I don't know Mixon personally or believe that he's prefect. All I know is that he's pretty talented running back and  what ever transpired in his past was when he was a teenager/kid. I never hit girl or woman but there are some situations in my life I wish I handled better as a teenage now that I have the wisdom  of  a man since because I am a man.

Edited April 20 by jazz1988

[rossihunter2]

18 minutes ago, jazz1988 said:

There's a video on youtube of Joe Mixon apologizing to Amelia Molitor. I don't know Mixon personally or believe that he's prefect. All I know is that he's pretty talented running back and  what ever transpired in his past was when he was a teenager/kid. I never hit girl or woman but there are some situations in my life I wish I handled better as a teenage now that I have the wisdom  of  a man since because I am a man.

There's a difference between handling situations better and breaking bones in someone's face

[ahackit]

Just watching all the posts and discussions come through on taking a wide receiver first round and it honestly surprises me. Obviously its the flashier pick and generates excitement, but it doesn't fix our biggest issue last year.

All season we complained about the lack of a running game and the running game starts with the o-line. We aren't going to draft a hotshot running back, but we can get our running game back on track with a solid RT pickup. My hopes is we actually sign MANgold and pick up one of the top o-line pick ups this year. I wouldn't mind a top end pass rusher, but to pick a WR in either round 1 or 2 would be crazy to me with our needs.

Even after the interviews, you may have Mike and Flacco, maybe saving face, saying we don't need any more weapons, but it is true to how the offense operates. Flaccos average yds/attempt is something like 7 yards, we don't need all-star receivers to accomplish that. You start averaging 3-4 yards a rush with a decent line, Flaccos dump off to running backs and Marty's short drag routes start to accomplish more. It opens up the play-action/deep ball game. I don't see how anyone can make a legitimate argument that a top receiver is our biggest need. I would love to see someone defend why receiver is our number 1 priority with any form of statistics

I would be interested if anyone can find an instance where we had a successful season without a 1800+ rushing YD season

Needs in Order of what we lack O-Line Pass Rusher Receiver Cornerback (I would like to put MLB and DE here, but we have some young guys that are still yet to be proven)

tl;dr Flacco needs a run-game and protection. Not an all-star receiver.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

1 hour ago, ahackit said:

Just watching all the posts and discussions come through on taking a wide receiver first round and it honestly surprises me. Obviously its the flashier pick and generates excitement, but it doesn't fix our biggest issue last year.

All season we complained about the lack of a running game and the running game starts with the o-line. We aren't going to draft a hotshot running back, but we can get our running game back on track with a solid RT pickup. My hopes is we actually sign MANgold and pick up one of the top o-line pick ups this year. I wouldn't mind a top end pass rusher, but to pick a WR in either round 1 or 2 would be crazy to me with our needs.

Even after the interviews, you may have Mike and Flacco, maybe saving face, saying we don't need any more weapons, but it is true to how the offense operates. Flaccos average yds/attempt is something like 7 yards, we don't need all-star receivers to accomplish that. You start averaging 3-4 yards a rush with a decent line, Flaccos dump off to running backs and Marty's short drag routes start to accomplish more. It opens up the play-action/deep ball game. I don't see how anyone can make a legitimate argument that a top receiver is our biggest need. I would love to see someone defend why receiver is our number 1 priority with any form of statistics

I would be interested if anyone can find an instance where we had a successful season without a 1800+ rushing YD season

Needs in Order of what we lack O-Line Pass Rusher Receiver Cornerback (I would like to put MLB and DE here, but we have some young guys that are still yet to be proven)

tl;dr Flacco needs a run-game and protection. Not an all-star receiver.

Here's the argument.... 

You dont draft for need. You take the best player. And if that player is a WR you take him.

Would you pass up the opportunity to draft Khalil Mack or Mike Evans just to make sure we have Ricky Wagner back?

If not, then you understand that there is a legitimate argument to taking pass rusher or WR in the first round and not an OL. 

 

btw... why is this posted here? This is about RB prospects.

[ahackit]

Oh woops. My bad - I thought I made an entire post for this. 

I think drafting purely based off of best player is incorrect. I think drafting the best player for your list of problems is the correct theory(and the ones that are actually employed).

If the best QB is available, we aren't going to take that position when we have glaring problems with our run game/pass protection/pass rush.

I always look at as a simple formula. Give points to your biggest problems. 3 for Oline. 2 for Pass Rush. 1 for Reciever.

Then points to players.

Combine players + Need points and that is going to trump "best player" I think every time.Drafting is a crap shoot. You need to at least be addressing your problems in some form.

Will end discussion as this is for RBs

[DomMcRaven]

6 hours ago, Jacquouille said:

There's not a prospect I'm overly attached to this year, but I would do some crazy things to see Nick Chubb play in Purple and Black.

Shouldn't that be a good thing lol?

[jazz1988]

9 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

There's a difference between handling situations better and breaking bones in someone's face

There is a difference and a big difference but that doesn't mean a 20 or 21 year old Joe Mixon can't look at that situation and say man, I wish I could have handle that situations better by walking away .  The same can be said about Amelia Molitor who  may have been a  teenager  as well at the time  but instead   saying   to her self    that even though her bones in her facing being broken was a  painful experience, embarrassing experience and more it wasn't the right thing to put hands on Joe Mixon.

[rossihunter2]

32 minutes ago, jazz1988 said:

There is a difference and a big difference but that doesn't mean a 20 or 21 year old Joe Mixon can't look at that situation and say man, I wish I could have handle that situations better by walking away .  The same can be said about Amelia Molitor who  may have been a  teenager  as well at the time  but instead   saying   to her self    that even though her bones in her facing being broken was a  painful experience, embarrassing experience and more it wasn't the right thing to put hands on Joe Mixon.

equating those two things equally is not how it should be though - of course I'm not saying they shouldn't both learn from it but he put her in the hospital - no matter how much he learns from it there should be consequences

if I push your reasoning to the extremes it's like saying this young kid just murdered another kid but now that he knows it's wrong and apologised for it he should be able to play football because he's good at it and he's grown up and won't make the same mistake again...

obviously that is exaggeration but the reasoning is the same...

[Jacquouille]

11 hours ago, DomMcRaven said:

Shouldn't that be a good thing lol?

Oh yeah it is, not saying the opposite, just stating I have a draft crush for Chubb and I don't think I've ever had one ahaha

[ludy51]

5 hours ago, Jacquouille said:

Oh yeah it is, not saying the opposite, just stating I have a draft crush for Chubb and I don't think I've ever had one ahaha

chub for Chubb?

[52520Andrew]

On 4/21/2017 at 7:10 AM, Jacquouille said:

Oh yeah it is, not saying the opposite, just stating I have a draft crush for Chubb and I don't think I've ever had one ahaha

Gonna have to wait another year before you get too excited for him, he is staying at school

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

On 4/20/2017 at 0:24 PM, Jacquouille said:

There's not a prospect I'm overly attached to this year, but I would do some crazy things to see Nick Chubb play in Purple and Black.

Have you watched Barkley from Penn State?

I like him better than Chubb. I'd prob take him over Fournette. Power, burst, vision, insanely quick feet, can catch out of the back field. 

Hes my dream pick for next year. Being in range to grab him would be a nice consolation if we have a crappy season this year. I think he'll be the top RB for sure.