2017 NFL Draft - RB's

[Darhk_Raven]

1 hour ago, berad said:

Can Pumphrey return kicks and punts? Makes him more valuable and it's been a weakness for the Ravens ever since Jacoby started declining.

Idk if he can but one guy that is coming out is TJ Logan. He played the role at unc that he would be asked to play for the Ravens and he returns kicks.

[berad]

31 minutes ago, Darhk_Raven said:

Idk if he can but one guy that is coming out is TJ Logan. He played the role at unc that he would be asked to play for the Ravens and he returns kicks.

He's got monster kick return numbers. He seems like more of a UDFA prospect, right? The 'draft sites' don't have much on him.

[Darhk_Raven]

44 minutes ago, berad said:

He's got monster kick return numbers. He seems like more of a UDFA prospect, right? The 'draft sites' don't have much on him.

Yeah, if anything he could go in the late rounds if he has a good Pro day and if he's invited to the Combine. If we could catch him as an UDFA it be really good, because that would allow us to use draft picks else where.

[JoeyFlex5]

Charlie seems stuck on us taking kamara in the second. I think he'll be a 3rd or 4th rounder so that would upset me to see such a reach, but with harbs saying he wants a scat back he would fit the bill 

[Jacquouille]

Samajie Grant is a guy I recently discovered, and boy is he a playmaking RB!

[usmccharles]

5 hours ago, Jonah DeVito said:

I hear there's this Rice guy who's out of the league right now, I bet he'd be pretty close to RR 

Most likely not close to the RR we all know

[Jacquouille]

I didn't like it not long ago, but if we chose Kamara in the 2nd I'd be screaming with joy. Don't care about the needs, he is probably the best RB in the class when it's all said and done. The ease with which he evades tackles is unreal, looks like Le'veon...

[RaineV1]

2 hours ago, Jacquouille said:

I didn't like it not long ago, but if we chose Kamara in the 2nd I'd be screaming with joy. Don't care about the needs, he is probably the best RB in the class when it's all said and done. The ease with which he evades tackles is unreal, looks like Le'veon...

He's one of those picks people would complain about at first (probably including me), but end up loving when he makes big plays.

[BmoreBird22]

On 1/24/2017 at 5:27 PM, JoeyFlex5 said:

Charlie seems stuck on us taking kamara in the second. I think he'll be a 3rd or 4th rounder so that would upset me to see such a reach, but with harbs saying he wants a scat back he would fit the bill 

Matt Miller has spoken to many scouts who love Kamara and one in a recent interview felt that Kamara was amongst six RB's that had first round talent.

[ravensnation5220]

2 hours ago, Jacquouille said:

I didn't like it not long ago, but if we chose Kamara in the 2nd I'd be screaming with joy. Don't care about the needs, he is probably the best RB in the class when it's all said and done. The ease with which he evades tackles is unreal, looks like Le'veon...

Ya he's a special talent. He also doesn't have nearly as many miles ad Fournette or cook. I think he's only eclipsed 20 or more carries once in his career. 

[JoeyFlex5]

26 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Matt Miller has spoken to many scouts who love Kamara and one in a recent interview felt that Kamara was amongst six RB's that had first round talent.

Charlie said the same thing, idk though I may have just talked myself out of taking a rb high lol

[ravensnation5220]

22 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Charlie said the same thing, idk though I may have just talked myself out of taking a rb high lol

Kamara is the only one id take in round 2. He can be such a great weapon, return punts, slot reciever, and he has enough breakaway speed. Id rather just grab pumphrey in the mid rounds

[jazz1988]

On 1/24/2017 at 11:36 AM, rmw10 said:

Makes sense.  I think Pumphrey is more the type of RB that we're looking for as opposed to a true 3 down type of guy.  If we find one, great, but I believe we're looking to add another element to what we already have.  Pumphrey is that small guy who can hit the home run.  Dixon and West are more of the wear you down, bruiser types, although they are fairly elusive.  We're just missing someone with that extra gear in the open field.

 I don't know why Buck Allen didn't see the field more but isn't he exactly what they looking for? 

[rmw10]

1 minute ago, jazz1988 said:

 I don't know why Buck Allen didn't see the field more but isn't he exactly what they looking for? 

Nah.  Buck Allen doesn't have that extra gear and isn't all that fast at all, to be honest.  He's solid at a lot of things, but doesn't really have any stand out traits.  I do think he has something to offer as a pass catcher but probably won't get that opportunity with West, Dixon, and a change of pace in front of him.

[GrimCoconut]

2 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Nah.  Buck Allen doesn't have that extra gear and isn't all that fast at all, to be honest.  He's solid at a lot of things, but doesn't really have any stand out traits.  I do think he has something to offer as a pass catcher but probably won't get that opportunity with West, Dixon, and a change of pace in front of him.

Think Allen even makes the team? I think he'll get a shot because you don't need to cut him but I wonder if he'll make the final 53

[rmw10]

1 minute ago, GrimCoconut said:

Think Allen even makes the team? I think he'll get a shot because you don't need to cut him but I wonder if he'll make the final 53

I'm 50/50 on him.  I don't really see what he offers that Dixon and/or West don't, but we know that injuries can always play a part.  Assuming full health, I think he'll be one of those battling for one of the last spots on the team.  It doesn't bode well that they chose to roll with 2 RBs and Juice on gamedays for a majority of the season, though.

[BmoreBird22]

4 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Charlie said the same thing, idk though I may have just talked myself out of taking a rb high lol

I don't want one high, but I don't think that doesn't mean there aren't ones worth taking.

[RaineV1]

The site's front page brought up Donnel Pumphrey, and I think he could be a pretty good addition to the Ravens' offense. He'd give the Ravens that big play running back to compliment Dixon and Juice. He also brings versatility, since he can go out wide as a receiver. He could be our Dion Lewis. New clue what round he's projected to go in though.

[Jacquouille]

1 hour ago, RaineV1 said:

The site's front page brought up Donnel Pumphrey, and I think he could be a pretty good addition to the Ravens' offense. He'd give the Ravens that big play running back to compliment Dixon and Juice. He also brings versatility, since he can go out wide as a receiver. He could be our Dion Lewis. New clue what round he's projected to go in though.

Yeah, we also talked to him during the week. He can also be a returner. I think he's heavily on Ozzie's radar.

4th round seems to be where you'd want to target him given the mesurables and the heavy workload he's faced.

[JoeyFlex5]

this may be irrelevant to 2017, but i just wanna say, saquan barkley looks better than any back in this class. 

just saw him for the first time and holy hell, this boy looks amazing.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Was digging into some RB prospects fitting the scat back game breaker type, and came across Tarik Cohen from NC A&T.

Really small (5'6", 180lbs) but he's elusive as heck. He's shifty, changes direction on a dime and seems to have that extra gear. Has good vision and patience, and looks to me like he plays bigger than his size. Also looks like he could add a little to his frame without losing his pace or balance.  

Probably a UDFA prospect and if that's the case I'd love to grab him. He's great in the open field and could probably battle for the returner spot. 

 

I mean if we're just looking to fill somewhat of a niche role, I'm not a fan of using a high pick with CB, pass rush, OL, and WR all potentially big needs and with good depth in the early rounds. 

Wouldnt hate it if a legit game changer is available like Fournette or even Kamara in the 3rd... if we're getting great value or they're hands down BPA. But otherwise I'd prefer to find an otherwise limited player with the unique skill set we're looking for later on. 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

2 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

this may be irrelevant to 2017, but i just wanna say, saquan barkley looks better than any back in this class. 

just saw him for the first time and holy hell, this boy looks amazing.

Yea that kid is a beast. Such a powerful lower body. 

He went to Whitehall HS near Allentown PA which is like 10-15 min from where I went to HS. He's been a man among boys for quite some time. 

[hn68wb4]

3 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

this may be irrelevant to 2017, but i just wanna say, saquan barkley looks better than any back in this class. 

just saw him for the first time and holy hell, this boy looks amazing.

Loved him his freshman year and said he'd end up a high first rounder. Honestly with him and Chubb I like next year's top end better than this one, I've never gotten Fournette fever and Cook is good but Chubb and Barkley are going to be superstars. I don't know if that class will be as deep as this one but the top two are better in my opinion.

[ravensnation5220]

6 minutes ago, hn68wb4 said:

Loved him his freshman year and said he'd end up a high first rounder. Honestly with him and Chubb I like next year's top end better than this one, I've never gotten Fournette fever and Cook is good but Chubb and Barkley are going to be superstars. I don't know if that class will be as deep as this one but the top two are better in my opinion.

Idk about that. Chubb is pretty slow. And he was never mentioned as a top prospect when people thought hed declare. Barkley doesn't seem to have that homerun speed either. At least from what I saw.

Fournette is a generational RB that doesn't come around very often. Like Peterson and Gurley. He is a freak of nature. I'm not buying into his injury concerns, he could have played through them if he really wanted to

[hn68wb4]

39 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Idk about that. Chubb is pretty slow. And he was never mentioned as a top prospect when people thought hed declare. Barkley doesn't seem to have that homerun speed either. At least from what I saw.

Fournette is a generational RB that doesn't come around very often. Like Peterson and Gurley. He is a freak of nature. I'm not buying into his injury concerns, he could have played through them if he really wanted to

I always throught Chubb was a top prospect and i saw him mocked late first consistently when people thought he might declare. i think you're putting way too much stock into speed here, both Chubb and Barkley have fine speed, but neither of them are reliant on it. Chubb has special vision and power and you're seriously underestimating his speed, I suspect he'll run at very least as fast as Elliott, and just watch Barkley honestly and tell me that guy isn't special.

Like I said, I've never bought into Fournette, has nothing to do with his injury whatever, just the player. I don't see the generational talent that people have pegged on him at all.

Edited January 30 by hn68wb4

[mc_red23]

9 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

this may be irrelevant to 2017, but i just wanna say, saquan barkley looks better than any back in this class. 

just saw him for the first time and holy hell, this boy looks amazing.

I saw his name being mentioned somewhere a month or so ago so thought I'd watch some tape on him. I just kept watching and watching... 

[raven94]

13 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

this may be irrelevant to 2017, but i just wanna say, saquan barkley looks better than any back in this class. 

just saw him for the first time and holy hell, this boy looks amazing.

Next year's running back class is just as talented (not as deep though) as this year's. I've made mocks before, including this year, with the mindset of what does this class have to offer and what does next year's class have to offer. That's not the correct way to do drafts according to Ozzie, but I always end up doing it anyway. 2018 has got good DB'S (also not as deep as this years), good RB, decent LB, and the best group next year is OL. One of the weakest groups next year is pass rush 

[ravensnation5220]

As a juvenile Dalvin Cook was also arrested multiple times, once for robbery, firing a weapon and possessing a weapon at an event on school property

Here'sthe link: 

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/open-mike/os-fsu-dalvin-cook-puppies-pitbulls-20150713-post,amp.html?client=ms-android-metropcs-us

This is a continuous issue for him. I always see people saying he is an option for us even from the Baltimore Sun. I don't understand how people can keep mocking him to us without taking into account his checkered past and how we view such players. They might as well have us taking Joe mixon and Dede westbrook 

 

[RavensDieHard21]

Is anyone touching Mixon with a 10foot poll?he is über talented, but obviously DV is no joke anymore.

if he is still there in 4th or 5th should we just take him?

[RavensDieHard21]

How about Perine from the Sooners?That guy is a powerful down hill runner. Mid round guy we could get in the 4th.

We land someone like Pocic, Eiflein, Orlosky, Feeny, Lamp for the interior and add Perine and we could have a real nice power scheme under Roman.