Rookie Rankings

[Sherly_Tebow]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000752994/article/nfl-rookie-rankings-ezekiel-elliott-reigns-carson-wentz-drops

There's no Tavon Young, Ronnie Stanley, or any other Ravens rookies. In my opinion, at least Ronnie and Tavon should be on there. It's a list on the top 25 rookies, with 5 more just missing the cut. There's now way that Tavon or Ronnie aren't in the top 30 rookies.

[Rav'n Maniac]

10 minutes ago, Sherly_Tebow said:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000752994/article/nfl-rookie-rankings-ezekiel-elliott-reigns-carson-wentz-drops

There's no Tavon Young, Ronnie Stanley, or any other Ravens rookies. In my opinion, at least Ronnie and Tavon should be on there. It's a list on the top 25 rookies, with 5 more just missing the cut. There's now way that Tavon or Ronnie aren't in the top 30 rookies.

Yeah i can't believe Tunsil is on there at 14 and no Stanley especially considering that Jeremiah was a scout for the Ravens at one time. Still it is just one persons take.

Edited December 7, 2016 by Rav'n Maniac

[ALPHA]

Ravens or not that's a really bad list.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

14 minutes ago, ALPHA said:

Ravens or not that's a really bad list.

That whole list is ridiculous. 

Spence that high? Judon has almost as many sacks with a fraction of the snaps. I know sacks isnt the only measure but im too lazy to look up pressures, hurries, and run stops.

Having Tunsil, Decker, and Conklin but no Stanley.

And Hargreaves but no Tavon is the biggest crime on there. I dont know that id even put Ramsey ahead of Tavon, though admittedly i havent seen nearly as much of either of those 2 as I have tavon obviously. But teams are starting to not even try throwing on him.

[rossihunter2]

no tavon, no ronnie, no matt judon, no michael pierce, you could even say dixon has been playing better than some of those rookies they picked

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

5 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

no tavon, no ronnie, no matt judon, no michael pierce, you could even say dixon has been playing better than some of those rookies they picked

i mean, inevitably we'll overvalue some of our own guys. Tbh, i have no idea how good Leonard Floyd has been doing, Jatavis Brown, Blake Martinez, Joe Thuney, and some others have been doing...

But, Tavon especially... i can do a like for like comparison with Hargreaves bc theyre somewhat similar... and I'll take tavon every single day.

Judon and Pierce you can argue against bc theyre playing bit roles, dixon and stanley i could at least hear an argument about missing too much time with injuries (1/4 of the season + is quite a lot of time)... but theres just no argument not to have Tavon on that list.

 

But, its clear opposing offenses have taken notice and respect him. Theyre avoiding him when possible and the few times they test him, hes making plays... which is a testament to how good hes playing. And that says really all i need to know about that.

Edited December 7, 2016 by BOLDnPurPnBlacK

[ALPHA]

Stanley is somewhere around Tunsils level, both missed games and have had mixed results. Decker and Conklin are operating at Pro Bowl level.

 

Tavon and Pierce should be on the list, maybe Judon.

[K-Dog]

SMH

outside media...

[BmoreBird22]

5 hours ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Having Tunsil, Decker, and Conklin but no Stanley.

I have absolutely zero issue with putting Conklin up high and having Decker up that high after his recent play, but Tunsil is an absolute embarrassment. 

[BmoreBird22]

5 hours ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

i mean, inevitably we'll overvalue some of our own guys. Tbh, i have no idea how good Leonard Floyd has been doing, Jatavis Brown, Blake Martinez, Joe Thuney, and some others have been doing...

Floyd has been coming along as a situational pass rusher, but Brown and Thuney both have been doing really well.

[52520Andrew]

Jatavis Brown has been injured the past couple weeks but did well when he played. Was outplaying the starters he replaced due to injury

[ALPHA]

2 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I have absolutely zero issue with putting Conklin up high and having Decker up that high after his recent play, but Tunsil is an absolute embarrassment. 

He didn't have a great game against us (who does?) but he's really boosted their ground game, but he's definitely not as advertised. I said Conklin was the best from the start.

[BmoreBird22]

27 minutes ago, ALPHA said:

He didn't have a great game against us (who does?) but he's really boosted their ground game, but he's definitely not as advertised. I said Conklin was the best from the start.

Conklin has a pretty big advantage of playing on the right side in a division that lost Watt. He also gets to play next to Ben Jones with a fairly mobile quarterback on a team that likes to run the ball, a lot. 

He's playing great football (like really great), but I think there's a lot of help for him in Tennessee to ease his transition.

[ALPHA]

5 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Conklin has a pretty big advantage of playing on the right side in a division that lost Watt. He also gets to play next to Ben Jones with a fairly mobile quarterback on a team that likes to run the ball, a lot. 

He's playing great football (like really great), but I think there's a lot of help for him in Tennessee to ease his transition.

Thats a fair assessment, but even then he's already the best RT in football. If you want the best rookie LT well then it's Decker by some margin, no missed games, consistent run work and zero sacks allowed. He's the player we're hoping Stanley will become.

[BmoreBird22]

6 hours ago, ALPHA said:

Thats a fair assessment, but even then he's already the best RT in football. If you want the best rookie LT well then it's Decker by some margin, no missed games, consistent run work and zero sacks allowed. He's the player we're hoping Stanley will become.

Oh, he's allowed sacks, and a lot of them. He just has really picked it up in the last six, seven weeks.

[AsianRice]

what a joke list without Tavon Young and Stanley?

Edited December 8, 2016 by AsianRice

[ALPHA]

9 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Oh, he's allowed sacks, and a lot of them. He just has really picked it up in the last six, seven weeks.

Correction, you're right he hasn't allowed one in the second half of his season so far. I guess it's funny that we're comparing Stanley to Decker and not Tunsil like we all thought would be a huge star right out of the gate.

[BmoreBird22]

1 hour ago, ALPHA said:

Correction, you're right he hasn't allowed one in the second half of his season so far. I guess it's funny that we're comparing Stanley to Decker and not Tunsil like we all thought would be a huge star right out of the gate.

I actually really liked Decker. Thought he had the cleanest footwork. Totally did not like Tunsil