[News] Ravens' Breakout Sparked By Ronnie Stanley, Offensive Line

[hereweare]

Last week someone on this board pointed out that it's no coincidence Yanda playing next to Stanley coincides with his raised play... I would like to reiterate... Yanda next to Stanley is huuuuuuge for Stanley!  

[Bat-mite]

8 minutes ago, hereweare said:

Last week someone on this board pointed out that it's no coincidence Yanda playing next to Stanley coincides with his raised play... I would like to reiterate... Yanda next to Stanley is huuuuuuge for Stanley!  

And huge for Flacco.  His blind side is getting the protection it needs.

[Derrel]

  58 minutes ago, hereweare said:

Last week someone on this board pointed out that it's no coincidence Yanda playing next to Stanley coincides with his raised play... I would like to reiterate... Yanda next to Stanley is huuuuuuge for Stanley!  

And huge for Flacco.  His blind side is getting the protection it needs.

like to see them 'pancake' Harrison....

[playlikeawhat]

17 hours ago, JamesA119 said:

You see this type comment invites counter arguments which some people on this website will readily see as "hate on Flacco" You are essentially implying that if the offense isn't playing well to look no further than the Oline and the WRs. That I completely disagree. Flacoo played an excellent game last Sunday, but let's not pretend that he has not been mediocre WRs and Oline not withstanding.
What I think is more likely the case is 1. Flacco is getting healthier 2. He was determined to elevate his game and that of others around him - when's the last time you saw Flacco get in anyone's face like he did Wallace yesterday? 3. The Oline is jelling 4. The OC called a better game 5. The whole offense consequently played better

While I agree that Flacco has been independently mediocre in some instances I still tend to look at the o-line first since that's where production begins each play no matter what the call is.  As @The Mom Gene pointed out, the line has been largely makeshift for much of the season.  I also think many of us here look to the WRs since it's impossible for Joe to control drops, failure to separate, cutting routes short, or sleeping during scramble plays.  Just as we look to the QB to elevate his level of play it's just as logical to expect each lineman and receiver to elevate their own level of play as well.  Joe has proven time and again that he can position the team to win without getting in anyone's face so I won't be upset if he doesn't continue any sideline theatrics lol.

[Crusader]

Haaaa Juan castillo--- he's still here...lol

He done such a GREAT job since he been hear. N LOL

[ibleedpurpleandblack]

4 hours ago, Bat-mite said:

I guess this settles the Stanley vs. Tunsil debate.

I think Castillo's system works when he has the right guys in the right positions, but it took us half the season to figure out what that looks like.

Castillo didn't implement his own system and it's the same guys we've had all season.  This is the 2nd or 3rd week behind this particular group at offensive line which gives it a little bit more continuity which should only get better with more time.  It's called EXECUTION - the Offensive Line blocked, which allowed Flacco time in the pocket to find the open receiver, the open receiver caught the ball and made a gain. 

Like I said before, defenses know our tendencies and that's why Miami left the middle of the field open - Since day one Flacco has ALWAYS thrown the out route at the 10-15-20 yard marks and Miami was playing outside-in coverage, meaning they were not going to let Joe throw that pass.  Defenses also know that with Wallace and Perriman that we just throw it deep and hope they come down with it.  Instead, like I've been saying, we needed to use more of our receivers on the intermediate routes and let them make a play - which is exactly what they did against Miami.  This game has and will give opposing defenses problems in the future because now they know Flacco can and will attack all areas of the field - IF GIVEN THE TIME BY THE OFFENSIVE LINE

[Crusader]

I guess this settles the Stanley vs. Tunsil debate.

I think Castillo's system works when he has the right guys in the right positions, but it took us half the season to figure out what that looks like.

There was 5 guys returning and with a third year or more experience , two rookies, and one free agent beginning of the season. You would think these guys could be better coordinated than now. This is MARTY BALL as Eagle fans have told me. Forget the run. It's just cosmetics.

[hereweare]

1 hour ago, ibleedpurpleandblack said:

Castillo didn't implement his own system and it's the same guys we've had all season.  This is the 2nd or 3rd week behind this particular group at offensive line which gives it a little bit more continuity which should only get better with more time.  It's called EXECUTION - the Offensive Line blocked, which allowed Flacco time in the pocket to find the open receiver, the open receiver caught the ball and made a gain. 

Like I said before, defenses know our tendencies and that's why Miami left the middle of the field open - Since day one Flacco has ALWAYS thrown the out route at the 10-15-20 yard marks and Miami was playing outside-in coverage, meaning they were not going to let Joe throw that pass.  Defenses also know that with Wallace and Perriman that we just throw it deep and hope they come down with it.  Instead, like I've been saying, we needed to use more of our receivers on the intermediate routes and let them make a play - which is exactly what they did against Miami.  This game has and will give opposing defenses problems in the future because now they know Flacco can and will attack all areas of the field - IF GIVEN THE TIME BY THE OFFENSIVE LINE

What I don't understand is... why did Miami not adjust!? Curious to see what BB does this week, can't imagine he will just allow the middle of the field to get gashed like that. Why not force Wallace and Perriman to make the downfield sideline catches, no?? challenge them that way rather than running free across the field

[ibleedpurpleandblack]

35 minutes ago, hereweare said:

What I don't understand is... why did Miami not adjust!? Curious to see what BB does this week, can't imagine he will just allow the middle of the field to get gashed like that. Why not force Wallace and Perriman to make the downfield sideline catches, no?? challenge them that way rather than running free across the field

I honestly do not know why they didn't adjust; I'm sure Fin fans are asking the same question, much like Ravens fans have asked this very question...

[purpledown]

Class act. Barring injury Stanley can be another JO, a perennial Pro Bowler, maybe Hall Of Famer.

[JamesA119]

  On December 5, 2016 at 6:07 PM, JamesA119 said:

You see this type comment invites counter arguments which some people on this website will readily see as "hate on Flacco" You are essentially implying that if the offense isn't playing well to look no further than the Oline and the WRs. That I completely disagree. Flacoo played an excellent game last Sunday, but let's not pretend that he has not been mediocre WRs and Oline not withstanding.
What I think is more likely the case is 1. Flacco is getting healthier 2. He was determined to elevate his game and that of others around him - when's the last time you saw Flacco get in anyone's face like he did Wallace yesterday? 3. The Oline is jelling 4. The OC called a better game 5. The whole offense consequently played better

No, that's not what I am implying.  What I am saying is that when the offense plays like crap everyone wants to scream and shout how much Joe sucks and NOBODY wants to account for the 9 different offensive line changes he's played, Steve Smith Sr being out for several weeks and piss poor play by the OL and receivers.  When the OL plays as well as it did, then that allows Joe to what he does and that allows the receivers to do what they do.  Almost every struggling team has a weak OL, without a strong OL your offense will go nowhere!!  Look at Oakland, you honestly believe Carr is as good as he is, he and Dak have the two best OL in the league right now.  You parroted all the points they brought up on the radio but nice try.  Flacco getting healthier, healthier since the week before, really??  Getting in Wallace's face and Marty calling a better game - guess what take all of those ball them up and if the OL plays like crap then none of that even matters!!!  Flacco was able to sit in the pocket and get comfortable because the OL played as well as they did.  It all starts with the offensive and defensive lines. 

1. I do not parrot anything. I don't think that's good English.
2. I grew up in Baltimore but I live in a different market now, and so I do not listen to Baltimore radio nor do I have time to
3. The 5 points I highlighted are what a reasonable person would think. In fact far too often the Oline and the WRs have been scapegoated. The QB is a 9th year veteran. While he played well last Sunday, he however had been very mediocre prior to then. Last Sunday was the best pocket awareness I had seen from him. He even stepped to the side and climbed the pocket. He would usually back up and start running and throw the ball away. Better protection improved his accuracy, but he had been very inaccurate even on snaps when there were no pressure.

[RavensBaltimore]

  16 hours ago, ibleedpurpleandblack said:

  On 12/5/2016 at 4:07 PM, JamesA119 said:

You see this type comment invites counter arguments which some people on this website will readily see as "hate on Flacco" You are essentially implying that if the offense isn't playing well to look no further than the Oline and the WRs. That I completely disagree. Flacoo played an excellent game last Sunday, but let's not pretend that he has not been mediocre WRs and Oline not withstanding.
What I think is more likely the case is 1. Flacco is getting healthier 2. He was determined to elevate his game and that of others around him - when's the last time you saw Flacco get in anyone's face like he did Wallace yesterday? 3. The Oline is jelling 4. The OC called a better game 5. The whole offense consequently played better

No, that's not what I am implying.  What I am saying is that when the offense plays like crap everyone wants to scream and shout how much Joe sucks and NOBODY wants to account for the 9 different offensive line changes he's played, Steve Smith Sr being out for several weeks and piss poor play by the OL and receivers.  When the OL plays as well as it did, then that allows Joe to what he does and that allows the receivers to do what they do.  Almost every struggling team has a weak OL, without a strong OL your offense will go nowhere!!  Look at Oakland, you honestly believe Carr is as good as he is, he and Dak have the two best OL in the league right now.  You parroted all the points they brought up on the radio but nice try.  Flacco getting healthier, healthier since the week before, really??  Getting in Wallace's face and Marty calling a better game - guess what take all of those ball them up and if the OL plays like crap then none of that even matters!!!  Flacco was able to sit in the pocket and get comfortable because the OL played as well as they did.  It all starts with the offensive and defensive lines. 

1. I do not parrot anything. I don't think that's good English.
2. I grew up in Baltimore but I live in a different market now, and so I do not listen to Baltimore radio nor do I have time to
3. The 5 points I highlighted are what a reasonable person would think. In fact far too often the Oline and the WRs have been scapegoated. The QB is a 9th year veteran. While he played well last Sunday, he however had been very mediocre prior to then. Last Sunday was the best pocket awareness I had seen from him. He even stepped to the side and climbed the pocket. He would usually back up and start running and throw the ball away. Better protection improved his accuracy, but he had been very inaccurate even on snaps when there were no pressure.

When the O-line can't pass protect or run block, and the wrs can't get separation and drop far too many passes, especially on clutch drives, they aren't being "scapegoated". People are just making common sense observations. I don't agree that Flacco had been very inaccurate when he had time. His comp ℅ has been pretty good despite a lot of throw aways and drops early in the season. He also fit passes in tight windows, even on deep throws. However, by the time we got to the games in NY, he did look gun shy, and he wasn't stepping into his passes with confidence, but that will happen to anyone who constantly gets hit for several weeks straight.

[RavensBaltimore]

  12 hours ago, ibleedpurpleandblack said:

Castillo didn't implement his own system and it's the same guys we've had all season.  This is the 2nd or 3rd week behind this particular group at offensive line which gives it a little bit more continuity which should only get better with more time.  It's called EXECUTION - the Offensive Line blocked, which allowed Flacco time in the pocket to find the open receiver, the open receiver caught the ball and made a gain. 

Like I said before, defenses know our tendencies and that's why Miami left the middle of the field open - Since day one Flacco has ALWAYS thrown the out route at the 10-15-20 yard marks and Miami was playing outside-in coverage, meaning they were not going to let Joe throw that pass.  Defenses also know that with Wallace and Perriman that we just throw it deep and hope they come down with it.  Instead, like I've been saying, we needed to use more of our receivers on the intermediate routes and let them make a play - which is exactly what they did against Miami.  This game has and will give opposing defenses problems in the future because now they know Flacco can and will attack all areas of the field - IF GIVEN THE TIME BY THE OFFENSIVE LINE

What I don't understand is... why did Miami not adjust!? Curious to see what BB does this week, can't imagine he will just allow the middle of the field to get gashed like that. Why not force Wallace and Perriman to make the downfield sideline catches, no?? challenge them that way rather than running free across the field

I think the first half against Miami was similar to the second half of the 2012 AFC Championship game. After Flacco had completed 3 deep TD passes down the sideline in Den, NE had their safeties playing back and Flacco carved them up with intermediate passes to Boldin and Pitta.

As far as not making adjustments, in both scenarios, we scored 3 quick TDs, so by the time they started thinking about adjustments, we were already way ahead. Just my guess.

[hereweare]

I still can't believe Denver thought Champ Bailey could cover Torrey 1on1 lol He made Champ look real old that first half