Next Up: Ravens AT Patriots, Gillette Stadium, Monday December 12.

[VermontRaven]

17 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

The question here is... when he returns, what position does he play?

Based on everything I've read, Yanda moving to LG is permanent for the rest of the season, as I'm not sure he will be healthy enough this year to play RG anymore. By several accounts, moving to LG is what kept him off of IR.

Knowing that, it would seem that Lewis' only position he could play is RG, which I don't believe is a position he's played yet. Not to say he couldn't, but with Duscasse playing OK and the continuity of the line seemingly being a key difference, one would question whether he would return to a starting role at all.

This is a very big question.  Clearly, I think the options are 1) He plays RG if the coaching staff feels he is the best option there (also depends on how line is playing...if we are rolling, we may ride Ducasse anyway to not break up the continuity.  2) He is top reserve for LT, RT, and LG...Even if this is the option, I will feel better.  Right now, we are one play away from Hurst in the game. 

[callahan09]

25 minutes ago, OUravensfan said:

Don't want to spend too much time on this subject, but someone posted that website, yourteamcheats, which really doesn't deserve the popularity it received, here we go:

1. Created by a Boston sports fan after the Deflate Gate fallout

2. Gives other teams a higher severity rating for Spygate and DeflateGate than what the Patriots got for those offenses

3. Gives the Ravens and Bengals a higher severity rating for Deflate Gate than they got because Jeff Blake, a former QB for both teams, was quoted as saying I liked to try to deflate my footballs too. Patriot fans btw, still cannot grasp the difference between bringing illegal balls into an inspection than having to re-inflate/deflate (Depending on preference) versus bringing in legal balls into the inspection and then going into a bathroom afterwards and deflating them below the threshold. When they quote Jeff Blake and Aaron Rodgers they are missing this point, kind of a joke.

4. They give the Ravens a few stars for cheating because Joe Flacco said tackle Ted Ginn in the Super Bowl in case he breaks the final kickoff.

I'll let you guys decide.......

Yes, it's an absolute joke of a website.  It's slickly designed and fun to look at, but the actual content is ridiculously biased.  They give 0.0 cheat points to the Patriots over Deflategate?  But they did give out a positive number of cheat points to various other teams for similar (and less egregious) instances of "deflategating" (as you pointed out).  They also give teams like the Jets the same cheat points for Spygate as they gave the Patroits.  They seriously undermine their integrity by downplaying to this extent something as obviously severe as Spygate.

The worst in my opinion is giving the Colts a +9.0 cheat score and "Serious Infraction!" medal for "Suck For Luck"-gate?  Seriously?  Losing on purpose isn't even cheating.  It is, quite literally, not against the rules.  If that was even what happened, of which there is literally no proof that they lost on purpose.  It's an assumption (perhaps even a fair one), but it's not proven, and it's not cheating even if they did do it.  And yet it's considered a far more serious instance of cheating than anything the Patriots have ever done.

That site is a joke.

[VermontRaven]

11 minutes ago, callahan09 said:

Yes, it's an absolute joke of a website.  It's slickly designed and fun to look at, but the actual content is ridiculously biased.  They give 0.0 cheat points to the Patriots over Deflategate?  But they did give out a positive number of cheat points to various other teams for similar (and less egregious) instances of "deflategating" (as you pointed out).  They also give teams like the Jets the same cheat points for Spygate as they gave the Patroits.  They seriously undermine their integrity by downplaying to this extent something as obviously severe as Spygate.

The worst in my opinion is giving the Colts a +9.0 cheat score and "Serious Infraction!" medal for "Suck For Luck"-gate?  Seriously?  Losing on purpose isn't even cheating.  It is, quite literally, not against the rules.  If that was even what happened, of which there is literally no proof that they lost on purpose.  It's an assumption (perhaps even a fair one), but it's not proven, and it's not cheating even if they did do it.  And yet it's considered a far more serious instance of cheating than anything the Patriots have ever done.

That site is a joke.

That's the Patriots logic for you.,,constantly trying to find a way to justify their cheating.  Patriots have 0 integrity in my opinion.

[January J]

39 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

The question here is... when he returns, what position does he play?

Based on everything I've read, Yanda moving to LG is permanent for the rest of the season, as I'm not sure he will be healthy enough this year to play RG anymore. By several accounts, moving to LG is what kept him off of IR.

Knowing that, it would seem that Lewis' only position he could play is RG, which I don't believe is a position he's played yet. Not to say he couldn't, but with Duscasse playing OK and the continuity of the line seemingly being a key difference, one would question whether he would return to a starting role at all.

Very good question. My guess is he will be top back up and they won't break up the continuity...unless he starts practicing at RG and is able to handle it and outplay Ducasse.

[DomMcRaven]

26 minutes ago, callahan09 said:

Yes, it's an absolute joke of a website.  It's slickly designed and fun to look at, but the actual content is ridiculously biased.  They give 0.0 cheat points to the Patriots over Deflategate?  But they did give out a positive number of cheat points to various other teams for similar (and less egregious) instances of "deflategating" (as you pointed out).  They also give teams like the Jets the same cheat points for Spygate as they gave the Patroits.  They seriously undermine their integrity by downplaying to this extent something as obviously severe as Spygate.

The worst in my opinion is giving the Colts a +9.0 cheat score and "Serious Infraction!" medal for "Suck For Luck"-gate?  Seriously?  Losing on purpose isn't even cheating.  It is, quite literally, not against the rules.  If that was even what happened, of which there is literally no proof that they lost on purpose.  It's an assumption (perhaps even a fair one), but it's not proven, and it's not cheating even if they did do it.  And yet it's considered a far more serious instance of cheating than anything the Patriots have ever done.

That site is a joke.

And here's my thing: what if Luck didn't pan out and he was just an average QB (similar to Osweiler)? Would the Colts have this high of a "score?"

[OUravensfan]

1 hour ago, callahan09 said:

Yes, it's an absolute joke of a website.  It's slickly designed and fun to look at, but the actual content is ridiculously biased.  They give 0.0 cheat points to the Patriots over Deflategate?  But they did give out a positive number of cheat points to various other teams for similar (and less egregious) instances of "deflategating" (as you pointed out).  They also give teams like the Jets the same cheat points for Spygate as they gave the Patroits.  They seriously undermine their integrity by downplaying to this extent something as obviously severe as Spygate.

The worst in my opinion is giving the Colts a +9.0 cheat score and "Serious Infraction!" medal for "Suck For Luck"-gate?  Seriously?  Losing on purpose isn't even cheating.  It is, quite literally, not against the rules.  If that was even what happened, of which there is literally no proof that they lost on purpose.  It's an assumption (perhaps even a fair one), but it's not proven, and it's not cheating even if they did do it.  And yet it's considered a far more serious instance of cheating than anything the Patriots have ever done.

That site is a joke.

Great synopsis, yea I forgot about the Luck rating lol. 

[Willbacker]

2 hours ago, callahan09 said:

Yes, it's an absolute joke of a website.  It's slickly designed and fun to look at, but the actual content is ridiculously biased.  They give 0.0 cheat points to the Patriots over Deflategate?  But they did give out a positive number of cheat points to various other teams for similar (and less egregious) instances of "deflategating" (as you pointed out).  They also give teams like the Jets the same cheat points for Spygate as they gave the Patroits.  They seriously undermine their integrity by downplaying to this extent something as obviously severe as Spygate.

The worst in my opinion is giving the Colts a +9.0 cheat score and "Serious Infraction!" medal for "Suck For Luck"-gate?  Seriously?  Losing on purpose isn't even cheating.  It is, quite literally, not against the rules.  If that was even what happened, of which there is literally no proof that they lost on purpose.  It's an assumption (perhaps even a fair one), but it's not proven, and it's not cheating even if they did do it.  And yet it's considered a far more serious instance of cheating than anything the Patriots have ever done.

That site is a joke.

Yes those players and coaching staff put their jobs on the line lol

[DomMcRaven]

Well after reading this, I hope this is Bulletin Board material for Flacco and Co. to perform:

http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/baltimore-ravens/former-patriot-joe-flacco-not-guy-strikes-fear-your-heart

[ravensnation5220]

6 hours ago, balfan23 said:

Well, there is Sunday and the great thing about being in playoff contention is that there are multiple games worth watching. Obviously PIT v. BUF. I'd throw in ARI v. MIA and DEN v. TEN. I'll be looking at those to keep my mind off Monday Night until game day. 

Ya hopefully we get some help so this doesnt have to feel like a must win. 

Dont forget the heisman trophy and army v navy game in Baltimore!!!!! 

[Adreme]

16 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Ya hopefully we get some help so this doesnt have to feel like a must win. 

Dont forget the heisman trophy and army v navy game in Baltimore!!!!! 

Even if the Ravens lose this they still have 100% control over whether they win the division or not.  If they beat the Steelers and win 2 of the 3 non Steeler games than they win the division no matter what they do.

[JoeyFlex5]

3 hours ago, DomMcRaven said:

And here's my thing: what if Luck didn't pan out and he was just an average QB (similar to Osweiler)? Would the Colts have this high of a "score?"

The Colts are basically the browns with a long streak of excellent qb play. 

If Curtis painter and orlovsky are the Colts starters then 0-16 wouldn't be a surprise, which they were close to that year. 

The Colts are THAT bad of a team, anyone who thought they would be anything more than a disaster in that year between Peyton and luck is kidding themselves.

[rossihunter2]

7 hours ago, VermontRaven said:

Don't know anything about WR Griff Whalen, but the Pats just signed him to help fill the void left by Amendola being out.

http://www.espn.com/blog/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4798346/patriots-and-wr-griff-whalen-agree-on-a-1-year-contract

he's the guy who snapped the ball for the colts in one of the bizzarest situations ive ever seen on a football field

[RaineV1]

14 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

The Colts are basically the browns with a long streak of excellent qb play. 

If Curtis painter and orlovsky are the Colts starters then 0-16 wouldn't be a surprise, which they were close to that year. 

The Colts are THAT bad of a team, anyone who thought they would be anything more than a disaster in that year between Peyton and luck is kidding themselves.

This year, Luck could possibly do better with the Browns than he is with the Colts. That's how bad the Colts are.

[rossihunter2]

3 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

This year, Luck could possibly do better with the Browns than he is with the Colts. That's how bad the Colts are.

they're improving though - and much like us they are getting healthier - its a stretch to say that at this point in time the browns have a better roster but if youre building for the future i take the browns (as long as we arent including luck)

[rossihunter2]

apparently alex lewis started practicing today in a limited capacity - if so then he's way ahead of schedule and no wonder he hasnt been put on i/r

[JoeyFlex5]

6 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

This year, Luck could possibly do better with the Browns than he is with the Colts. That's how bad the Colts are.

Luck on the browns might be in playoff contention, seriously. If the Colts had The browns qb situation they might have negative wins at this point. They may have found a way to go 0-18 in one season. 

I wish luck didn't play for the Colts because I hate to see an immense talent like him get destroyed by his front office, and I'd love to laugh at what the Colts would be without a qb. 

I don't think I've ever seen a franchise so undeserving of winning seasons. Such a poorly managed team doesn't deserve playoff appearances lol

Edited December 9, 2016 by JoeyFlex5

[rmcjacket23]

1 minute ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Luck on the browns might be in playoff contention, seriously. If the Colts had The browns qb situation they might have negative wins at this point.

Luck on the Browns would be in a comparable spot to the Colts... neither has a very talented roster.

Luck on a team like the Texans or Vikings, however, would be a perennial SB contender. 

[OUravensfan]

33 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Luck on the Browns would be in a comparable spot to the Colts... neither has a very talented roster.

Luck on a team like the Texans or Vikings, however, would be a perennial SB contender. 

For these reasons I think Luck is better than Dalton, not a lot of people in Cincinnati see it that way, or at least the younger crowd. 

Edited December 9, 2016 by OUravensfan

[Gtown Purple]

For some reason I'm rather optimistic about this game despite the opponent.

[rossihunter2]

7 minutes ago, OUravensfan said:

For these reasons I think Luck is better than Dalton, not a lot of people in Cincinnati see it that way, or at least the younger crowd. 

i dont think there's really any question over who's better outside of cinci, luck every game proves how important he is - everyone should have seen that from how crappy the colts are when luck doesnt play vs when he does

he at times this season has played unbelievable football and on this season alone deserves to be in the upper echelon of qbs with matt ryan, drew brees and tom brady

[OUravensfan]

3 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

i dont think there's really any question over who's better outside of cinci, luck every game proves how important he is - everyone should have seen that from how crappy the colts are when luck doesnt play vs when he does

he at times this season has played unbelievable football and on this season alone deserves to be in the upper echelon of qbs with matt ryan, drew brees and tom brady

Matt Ryan has had a good year, but I still think he'll choke when it matters most.

[hn68wb4]

7 hours ago, OUravensfan said:

Don't want to spend too much time on this subject, but someone posted that website, yourteamcheats, which really doesn't deserve the popularity it received, here we go:

1. Created by a Boston sports fan after the Deflate Gate fallout

2. Gives other teams a higher severity rating for Spygate and DeflateGate than what the Patriots got for those offenses

3. Gives the Ravens and Bengals a higher severity rating for Deflate Gate than they got because Jeff Blake, a former QB for both teams, was quoted as saying I liked to try to deflate my footballs too. Patriot fans btw, still cannot grasp the difference between bringing illegal balls into an inspection than having to re-inflate/deflate (Depending on preference) versus bringing in legal balls into the inspection and then going into a bathroom afterwards and deflating them below the threshold. When they quote Jeff Blake and Aaron Rodgers they are missing this point, kind of a joke.

4. They give the Ravens a few stars for cheating because Joe Flacco said tackle Ted Ginn in the Super Bowl in case he breaks the final kickoff.

I'll let you guys decide.......

I haven't heard that website for a year or two, it was garbage clearly made by a Pats fan, I mean come on, he made Flacco's joke worse than anything the Pats ever did and only prefaces Goodell with "Former Jets such-and-such"

Really no time should be spent on that site at all. You'd be using your time more effectively if you did literally anything else.

[rossihunter2]

8 minutes ago, hn68wb4 said:

I haven't heard that website for a year or two, it was garbage clearly made by a Pats fan, I mean come on, he made Flacco's joke worse than anything the Pats ever did and only prefaces Goodell with "Former Jets such-and-such"

Really no time should be spent on that site at all. You'd be using your time more effectively if you did literally anything else.

yeah lol this was all my bad for posting the site again...

[DomMcRaven]

3 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

The Colts are basically the browns with a long streak of excellent qb play. 

If Curtis painter and orlovsky are the Colts starters then 0-16 wouldn't be a surprise, which they were close to that year. 

The Colts are THAT bad of a team, anyone who thought they would be anything more than a disaster in that year between Peyton and luck is kidding themselves.

Agreed. How Grigson and Pags have jobs is beyond me. 

[hn68wb4]

I was just watching the NFL youtube channel's highlights for the Dolphins game and, man, I hope officiating is better this game, in that one highlight video there are at least 3 clear false starts, 2 of which on Branden Albert and during the game I remember at least 3 other one from both sites, it was like Ducasse and Tunsil was the only ones on the field that ever got called for false starts

[FlocksGottaFeed]

Can't think of a better time, place and narrative season for the Ravens to get this win on MNF. It will most likely be the Top rated MNF broadcast this season. It's the much beloved story-lines of "The Improbable becomes Probable", "The Unthinkable becomes Thinkable" and "The Unbeatable becomes very, very Beatable" simply because of all the teams they have faced throughout the years no team fears them less than the Ravens. This is because the Ravens have made all those before mentioned story-lines come true more than any other. We actually look forward to these games.

That's the thing. Since our last trip there where we blew 2 separate 14 point leads to allow them to get the win, how have both teams changed? I would say when comparing rosters and additions we definitely look a little bit stronger collectively than 3 years ago. Remember the totally stitched together secondary and reserves? Remember our injury report then? Not so much for this game. We're in a really good place to "Shock the World" (Oh yeah. And stop being so freaking naive world! It's not like this hasn't happened before...) once again.

All this to say, when it comes-down to which team has to prove themselves more this time around - it's the Boston team. Everybody has already inked-in another win for them. My thought is they should have penciled it in. Our Ravens have been erasers many times before.

GO Ravens!!! And may the Joe Cool Chill Factor be with You. (Once again. Said it last week and it worked so...) 

Edited December 10, 2016 by FlocksGottaFeed
story-lines come true

[hn68wb4]

Chances are that I won't be able to watch this, I'm so unbelievably disappointed...

[RavensFanMania]

3 hours ago, OUravensfan said:

Matt Ryan has had a good year, but I still think he'll choke when it matters most.

That will mos likely be on the defense.

[ludy51]

20 minutes ago, hn68wb4 said:

Chances are that I won't be able to watch this, I'm so unbelievably disappointed...

Dude......

[ravensnation5220]

4 hours ago, Adreme said:

Even if the Ravens lose this they still have 100% control over whether they win the division or not.  If they beat the Steelers and win 2 of the 3 non Steeler games than they win the division no matter what they do.

Ya. Same could be said about the steelers though.....hopefully renegade pumps flacco up lol