Next Up: Ravens AT Patriots, Gillette Stadium, Monday December 12.

[mg90]

Classic example of why I chose Baltimore as my team. Well... more so an example of why I couldn't choose that team.  A victory would be so sweet to put in the face of the Pats fans our friend here so accurately represents.

[DomMcRaven]

6 hours ago, RavensPunkXVX said:

Don't Run On The Ravens Defense

Nice little article on the Ravens D, highlighting players like B-Will and Pierce. We need a Ravens defense appreciation thread. This defense has been pretty remarkable. 

Last thing I want is our defense to struggle after the thread has been posted. I don't want to jinx our defense lol.

[Gtown Purple]

We need to bat 5000 passes down in this game. Brady won't be holding the ball long.

[JoeyFlex5]

3 minutes ago, Gtown Purple said:

We need to bat 5000 passes down in this game. Brady won't be holding the ball long.

we have a secondary this time around. 

brady dunno nuthin bout dat.

[Cillmatic]

This is when having press corners would REALLT come in handy. Brady will have his typical quick release time, having CB's up in the WR's grill is the best counter. Tavon giving Edelman space might be an issue. The only alternative is getting to Brady FAST and I'd rather not blitz, we need as many guys in coverage as possible.

Edited December 8, 2016 by Cillmatic

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

3 minutes ago, Cillmatic said:

This is when having press corners would REALLT come in handy. Brady will have his typical quick release time, having CB's up in the WR's grill is the best counter.

 

Jimmy Smith says hi

[Cillmatic]

3 minutes ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

Jimmy Smith says hi

I have no doubt Jimmy will shut down Chris Hogan, Tavon is a question mark though.

Edited December 8, 2016 by Cillmatic

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Just now, Cillmatic said:

I have no doubt Jimmy will Crap down Chris Hogan, Tavon is a question mark though.

Tavon is a hell of a lot better than any corners we had two years ago. They don't have a Melvin to pick on anymore. 

[Cillmatic]

16 hours ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

Tavon is a hell of a lot better than any corners we had two years ago. They don't have a Melvin to pick on anymore. 

I'm not saying he's bad, I'm just concerned over his playing style against a quick release QB. Giving a Patriot WR a free release is a bad idea. 

Edited December 8, 2016 by Cillmatic

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

6 minutes ago, Cillmatic said:

I'm not sang he's bad, I'm just concerned over his playing style against a quick release QB. Giving a Patriot WR a free release is a bad idea. 

Well they say the sky's the limit, and to me that's really true, but my friend you have seen nothing nothing, just wait till he(Tavon) gets through, Because he's bad. He's bad. 

 

 

Tavon is a pretty good corner, I know some who would argue he's the best corner on the team. He plays a lot bigger than his size. I'm not worried about him. Far more worried about Powers. 

[ludy51]

As bad as the fans are in those patriots message boards are, the ones on Reddit are pretty funny.

Talk about living in their heads rent free

[BigMike]

 

Pats have a great franchise, great coach, great QB...but it's our time.... dispute me with facts why we will lose but I'm all in homer...LETS GO RAVENS. We can do this!!!

Edited December 8, 2016 by Moderator 3
NO cussing

[sibelius]

I was just thinking batted passes will be a factor as well. I could see us with Urban and Guy in on early downs to turn the short throws into long throws. Then we pin our ears back. The best part is we have versatility on the line so even if they hurry us up we can stay balanced between our ability to stop the run and defense the pass. 

[codizzle]

More so then just batted passes, interior pressure will be absolutely vital to anything Ravens want to do on defense against Pats 

Ravens will need to disguise and mix up coverages so Ravens won't be able to rely on pressure coming from just the edge.

Some of the rotational DT's have to get to Brady and Mosley/Orr will need a few well timed blitzes up the middle. This will free up sizzle to situationly help cover the flats and deter quick passing game

[Marcus_Aurelius]

8 hours ago, VermontRaven said:

If it looks like a troll, smells like a troll...and appears extremely arrogant...it's the master of all trolls...A Patriots fan! (Although he/she probably cheated to become master troll)

Your right, if it squawks like a duck, walks like a duck, then it probably is,  a duck. 

[K-Dog]

[JoeyFlex5]

11 hours ago, Cillmatic said:

I'm not sang he's bad, I'm just concerned over his playing style against a quick release QB. Giving a Patriot WR a free release is a bad idea. 

Press corners are nice to counter quick releases, but a top-down corner who anticipates and breaks on the ball very well can create turnovers and can be just as effective.

[rossihunter2]

interior pressure is gonna be the big thing here - give brady no option to step up into the pocket and force him to move sideways into doom or sizzle

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

18 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

interior pressure is gonna be the big thing here - give brady no option to step up into the pocket and force him to move sideways into doom or sizzle

Ding ding ding.

Agreed. Jernigan, BWill, Pierce, Urban, and Guy have a big job on their hands. Get Brady off his spot and he's not the same QB. Still very good, still capable of beating you, but he can and will make mistakes if you flush him from the pocket. Hes not quite as accurate either. Edge pressure he can escape with his shifty little step up... but put the pressure in his lap and you can impact his game.

Weddle's gonna be huge too. The 2011 and 2012 matchups that we shouldve gone undefeated against them, Ed Reed on the back end playing chess with Brady really helped to nullify alot of what they do pre-snap to put Defenses in bad situations. We havent had that ability since Reed, but I think Weddle is capable of at least hanging with Brady on an intelligence, pre-snap level. Its not the master class that Reed would put on, but he'll keep us disguised and them guessing enough to let them just roll.

Obviously the other key for me is tackling. Regardless of how good you play on D they are going to hit some of the quick strikes - digs, crossing routes, RB screens, etc... they'll get Lewis, White and Edelman the ball on the move and in space. We NEED to tackle them immediately and limit the YAC opportunities. Blount cannot be allowed to bounce off and break tackles. He's not going to beat us to the edge with speed, or force too many guys to miss in the open field. Hes gonna try to go through us. That CANT happen. Limit him to what his OL blocks for him.

 If they want chunk plays we need to force Brady to throw deep where hes not quite as accurate and where we may be able to force some turnovers...

Otherwise you force them to put together 10-15 successful plays in a row if they want to score. Make them complete 3 passes in a row for a 1st, or a couple good runs. No 2 yard passes that pop for 15. Play clean, fundamental football.

 

My 3 keys:

1. Interior Pressure
2. Pre-snap disguise/game of chess (Weddle vs Brady)
3. Tackle, tackle, tackle

Edited December 8, 2016 by BOLDnPurPnBlacK

[trevorsteadman]

The Ravens line up pretty well against the Patriots on paper. Let's see what happens Monday...

Edited December 8, 2016 by trevorsteadman

[rossihunter2]

43 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Its not the master class that Reed would put on, but he'll keep us disguised and them guessing enough to let them just roll.

no but weddle will be playing safer ball than reed used to - weddle doesnt gamble really he makes his reads and keeps everything in front of him as much as possible so it's a different skillset - he's beaten less but obviously also makes less game-changing plays

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

16 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

no but weddle will be playing safer ball than reed used to - weddle doesnt gamble really he makes his reads and keeps everything in front of him as much as possible so it's a different skillset - he's beaten less but obviously also makes less game-changing plays

When Reed jumped, it wasnt a guess. He knew.

There might be an argument that later in his career he may not have had the same athleticism to cover the range of space he wanted to... and would therefore maybe not quite make the play.... but he wasnt really a "risk" and didnt get beat often at all.

[rossihunter2]

7 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

When Reed jumped, it wasnt a guess. He knew.

There might be an argument that later in his career he may not have had the same athleticism to cover the range of space he wanted to... and would therefore maybe not quite make the play.... but he wasnt really a "risk" and didnt get beat often at all.

of course - he's the best safety possibly ever - im just oversimplifying the difference - it's a different kind of threat we have in the secondary now

[hereweare]

Very curious to see how Pee's game plans this week and how BB decides to attack the secondary. With no Gronk in play I really hope we play like 2012.. When our corners played within 5yards and safeties shrunk down as well. They CROWDED the field within 20 yards, swarming to make tackles and reduce YAC.
I'd imagine BB forces Tavon to make decisions in coverage and challenge him that way...Challenge his IQ and preparation.

[trevorsteadman]

Ravens cannot sleep on Malcolm Mitchell...

[rmcjacket23]

1 minute ago, trevorsteadman said:

Ravens cannot sleep on Malcolm Mitchell...

My guess is he will see Jimmy Smith coverage for most of the day.

[trevorsteadman]

3 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

My guess is he will see Jimmy Smith coverage for most of the day.

Tavon better have a good game against Edelman then I guess

[OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL]

AT HOME, 

Are the Pats just better at Cheating now?

Lets face it, nobody makes better 2nd half adjustments AT HOME, then Billy boy, and technology has improved.....Does anyone think, with their past record, that they are not still cheating? Am I way out of line here? 

The new high def technology to zoom in on the play sheet, the video and sound to pick up the Ravens calls....hidden mic's in the locker room, etc.

We should have a separate game plan in the 2nd half, with opposite calls, to trick them

[rmcjacket23]

1 minute ago, trevorsteadman said:

Tavon better have a good game against Edelman then I guess

All depends on where Edelman lines up. Tavon's been playing outside more often with Powers in the slot, so if Edelman lines up in the slot, he may see more of Powers than anything.

My guess is that we will bring our safeties down in the box more, with Weddle/Webb drawing a lot of coverage on Bennett. We will probably play primarily zone against them and just try to flood the short and intermediate passing lanes. 

My interest is to see if Belichick is even going to attempt to run the ball. I think he will early, but I'm not sure how successful it will be.

[rmcjacket23]

1 minute ago, OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL said:

AT HOME, 

Are the Pats just better at Cheating now?

Lets face it, nobody makes better 2nd half adjustments AT HOME, then Billy boy, and technology has improved.....Does anyone think, with their past record, that they are not still cheating? Am I way out of line here? 

The new high def technology to zoom in on the play sheet, the video and sound to pick up the Ravens calls....hidden mic's in the locker room, etc.

We should have a separate game plan in the 2nd half, with opposite calls, to trick them

Mostly, yes, out of line. You can't cheat your way to the success they've had. Only so much you can do on a football field, because it all comes down to execution at the end of the day.

If all they did was cheat, I'd certainly expect them to have more Lombardi's than they do.

Whole thing is a lot overblown to me.