Week 13 Dolphins edition: The Good, Bad, Ugly, Vent/Discussion

[757RavensFan]

Good:  4-1 since the bye. Losing a competitive game to the best team in the league is not bad all. 

[balfan23]

The Good: The list is too long. Flacco looked like a different QB and the D was clicking too. In the spirit of having to pick a single standout ... I'm going with Pitta. Dang ... I'll be the first to admit I was ready to pronounce him dead. He wasn't having enough of an impact in the pass game to warrant being the blocking liability that he is. But man, what a game he had. You have to feel good for him. The dedication, hard work and the pain he had to endure to make a comeback is something few people can fathom. He's got to be on cloud 9 right now. Feel really good for him. 

The Bad: Well, it was too bad the D didn't get the shutout they deserved. The one black mark on Pitta's otherwise fantastic game cost us the 0, but what a game by the D. Timmy is Bad *** so perhaps that can qualify as an entry in this category. 

The Ugly: No winning ugly today ... I've got nothing for this category. Absolutely nothing. 

 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

1 minute ago, TuckerTime9 said:

Tavon Young is INCREDIBLE. Gave up 2 receptions on 3 targets for only 4 yards today. We really found ourselves a gem. 

Dare I say - he's playing better than Ramsey?? 

Granted Youngs surrounded by MUCH better talent... but much happier with Young in the 4th than having to trade up for Ramsey and not have Stanley and a couple other picks like Dixon, Young, Judon, Lewis, Kaufusi, etc...

[balfan23]

21 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

And I don't even think he put it into high gear either. 

Dude looks like he's jogging. 

Wallace is fast and looks fast. And looks like he's trying to run fast. 

Perriman looks like he's plodding along, while actually running really fast and doesn't look like he's trying. 

 

Today was a big step imo. Early on he made some spectacular grabs but his impact was few and far between. Then he started to make some of the routine grabs so his impact was a little more consistent. Then he got over the TD hump and is now a serious threat to score every game. 

But today was the first time he's really taken a routine catch and blew things wide open. Man... if he can start to do that with any sort of regularity - we've got a scary weapon on our hands. 

I think we need to work on more plays that are specifically designed to get him the ball in space. Today's play was a glimpse of what he can do and why we drafted him. 

[balfan23]

4 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Dare I say - he's playing better than Ramsey?? 

Granted Youngs surrounded by MUCH better talent... but much happier with Young in the 4th than having to trade up for Ramsey and not have Stanley and a couple other picks like Dixon, Young, Judon, Lewis, Kaufusi, etc...

... and now that you mention Stanley ... wow, he was perfect today. It was kind of fun to watch him at LT and Tunsil at LG and just see who would outshine whom. 

But absolutely to be getting that kind of play out of a 4th round rookie? That's insane. 1st round rookie CBs usually struggle. Young is just playing with such confidence. What an absolute steal. 

[Militant X 1]

4 hours ago, DomMcRaven said:

By the way, our offense had the breakout game @OUravensfan has been calling for awhile now. Shout out to him. 

I gave @OUravensfan a shout out but let's cool our jets on all of this "breakout" stuff Dom.   I even hear the commentators using that term so maybe that's why it's gets mentioned all of the time?

I know everyone sees things differently and that's kool.  To me, a "breakout" performance is not what an individual player, offense or defense does in ONE GAME but in their displaying and demonstrating that type of "consistent" performance in multiple games.  

IF, the Ravens offense can put up a performance against the Patriots....in Foxborough like they did at home against the Dolphins......now...THAT'S a so-called "breakout" in my book because they would have done it back to back at home and on the road and against good teams! 

GO RAVENS!!!

Edited December 5, 2016 by Militant X 1

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

27 minutes ago, Militant X 1 said:

I gave @OUravensfan a shout out but let's cool our jets on all of this "breakout" stuff Dom.   I even hear the commentators using that term so maybe that's why it's gets mentioned all of the time?

I know everyone sees things differently and that's kool.  To me, a "breakout" performance is not what an individual player, offense or defense does in ONE GAME but in their displaying and demonstrating that type of "consistent" performance in multiple games.  

IF, the Ravens offense can put up a performance against the Patriots....in Foxborough like they did at home against the Dolphins......now...THAT'S a so-called "breakout" in my book because they would have done it back to back at home and on the road and against good teams! 

GO RAVENS!!!

Well if they play consistently well then that's not a breakout... that's just the norm. 

The breakout performance is the one that leads to consistently good player after lengths of poor play. 

So if it continues then this was the breakout performance. Yes that aspect of sustaining has to happen for this to truly be the breakout performance... but if that happens this will be looked at as the breakout game. 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

We are now 7-1 when Ronnie Stanley plays. 0-4 when he doesn't. 

That's the value of a franchise LT. 

And where's the Tunsil crowd now? That boy looked overwhelmed and held on for dear life on several plays. 

Meanwhile Stanley was near perfect and has been when a steady veteran plays next to him (Yanda).

I repeat - 7-1 when Stanley plays with the 1 loss against the NFLs current best team. Not too shabby. 

[AsianRice]

3 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

We are now 7-1 when Ronnie Stanley plays. 0-4 when he doesn't. 

That's the value of a franchise LT. 

And where's the Tunsil crowd now? That boy looked overwhelmed and held on for dear life on several plays. 

Meanwhile Stanley was near perfect and has been when a steady veteran plays next to him (Yanda).

I repeat - 7-1 when Stanley plays with the 1 loss against the NFLs current best team. Not too shabby. 

Tunsil wouldn't stand a chance against Ronnie cuz he plays LG, not LT in which the hardest position in NFL and less glamorous position...

[codizzle]

Definitely the confidence the offense needed but I would pump the brakes a little. This is still the Baltimore Ravens. They aren't going to turn into an offensive powerhouse overnight. 

I just want to see some consistency and some willingness to adapt to what the defense will give 

[codizzle]

Oh and moving yanda to LG has been the coaching move of the year so far 

[DomMcRaven]

40 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

We are now 7-1 when Ronnie Stanley plays. 0-4 when he doesn't. 

That's the value of a franchise LT. 

And where's the Tunsil crowd now? That boy looked overwhelmed and held on for dear life on several plays. 

Meanwhile Stanley was near perfect and has been when a steady veteran plays next to him (Yanda).

I repeat - 7-1 when Stanley plays with the 1 loss against the NFLs current best team. Not too shabby. 

The way I look at it, we're 7-0 when Stanley AND Jimmy Smith plays. 

[rmw10]

8 minutes ago, codizzle said:

Oh and moving yanda to LG has been the coaching move of the year so far 

It was actually Yanda who pushed for the move. Good on the coaches for agreeing to it though. 

[ravensnation5220]

4 minutes ago, DomMcRaven said:

The way I look at it, we're 7-0 when Stanley AND Jimmy Smith plays. 

Hence why we need another good press corner. Another pass rusher would be smart too. 

[Steve0x]

Well Look at Defense. Its about time they showed up. They almost shut out the Dolphins. If i wasn't for that fumble who knows what might have been When was the last time Ravens shut out anyone? That was When Ray Lewis and Ed Reed was still playing.

[RavensFanMania]

If this team makes it to the playoffs, watch out.  We have a very good defense and a team getting healthier by the game.

[Bent_Wookie]

Young has been fun to watch! Love being excited to watch the defense play again.

 

...Young did return after the stinger, right?

 

espn has it listed that he never returned on their "notable injuries" section.

[JoeyFlex5]

8 minutes ago, Steve0x said:

Well Look at Defense. Its about time they showed up. They almost shut out the Dolphins. If i wasn't for that fumble who knows what might have been When was the last time Ravens shut out anyone? That was When Ray Lewis and Ed Reed was still playing.

what? our defense is the best in the league and has been, AT WORST, floating around top 5 on the rare occasion that our defense has an off day and falls behind(giants, cowboys, raiders). 

you cling to the old days more than anyone i have ever seen. that defense in 2012 when we won it all, with ray and ed on the field, was far worse than the one we have now, in fact, if you remove the outlier that is 2015, then that 2012 defense was the worst in the harbaugh era. 

the offense has been the problem all year, they have been disgusting to watch, but they have a great game, and the defense continues to be the best in the  league, and you say "oh they finally showed up"... 

shutouts arent the only metric for a good defense, its a team sport and the offense plays a huge part in how the defense performs.

[JoeyFlex5]

5 minutes ago, Bent_Wookie said:

Young has been fun to watch! Love being excited to watch the defense play again.

 

...Young did return after the stinger, right?

 

espn has it listed that he never returned on their "notable injuries" section.

he returned. if powers didnt get that pick at the end then tavon young was right behind him and would have gotten it and likely took it to the house because he wouldve caught it in stride in front of the wr. 

[RavensFanMania]

8 minutes ago, Bent_Wookie said:

Young has been fun to watch! Love being excited to watch the defense play again.

 

...Young did return after the stinger, right?

 

espn has it listed that he never returned on their "notable injuries" section.

Returned at beginning of 2nd half

[kjbmore]

The good - the interceptions - soooo refreshing to see ball hawking secondary play after all the emphasise on turnovers.

Our unit may not be spoken of in the upper tiers but when Jimmys out there - its dangerous.

We've added some pieces and shuffled stuff around but I wonder how much adding Leslie Frazier has made a difference - not seeing his name much these days.

 

[FoxRox75]

Wow. This was the one we were all waiting for. What a fun time; the offensive exploded, and the defense was excellent as usual! Most complete game by far this year for the Ravens! 

[Filmstudy]

I've rewatched a lot of Tunsil doing the defensive notes tonight and he was truly awful, it wasn't just the penalties.

I'll include scoring for Tunsil to compare to Stanley with OL article on Wednesday.

[Militant X 1]

2 hours ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Well if they play consistently well then that's not a breakout... that's just the norm. 

The breakout performance is the one that leads to consistently good player after lengths of poor play. 

So if it continues then this was the breakout performance. Yes that aspect of sustaining has to happen for this to truly be the breakout performance... but if that happens this will be looked at as the breakout game. 

And IF the offense goes to Foxborough and lays a hot, stinky and smelly egg (which I definitely hope not)...is their game play against the Dolphins still viewed as a "breakout" game to you?  Cause it definitely wouldn't be to me.  It would just be 1 game that they "happen" to play well in but then choked in the next.

Edited December 5, 2016 by Militant X 1

[RavensFanMania]

4 minutes ago, Militant X 1 said:

And IF the offense goes to Foxborough and lays a hot, stinky and smelly egg (which I definitely hope not)...is their game play against the Dolphins still viewed as a "breakout" game to you?  Cause it definitely wouldn't be to me.  It's would be just 1 game that they "happen" to play well and then choked the next.

If this happens, it would just mean they played a better competitor in their house.

 The patriots defense, although not as good as ours is no slouch.  They have a very good pass defense, but we can exploit their lack of speed.  Maybe not as easy as this game, but it can be done.

 

Edited December 5, 2016 by RavensFanMania

[codizzle]

1 hour ago, rmw10 said:

It was actually Yanda who pushed for the move. Good on the coaches for agreeing to it though. 

Oh yea? That's awesome. 

[Underdogsontop!]

Tavon Young is big time and will get better with more time........ Vernon Hargreaves, meckenzie Alexander, Artie burns, William Jackson who??? Lol good to see Jimmy smith back and how much it helps the defense. Matt judon had a nice sack. Jernigan needs to learn more discipline very soon. Offense had their best game of the season by far! Ducase struggled some... Periman looked nice in that 53 yard play for a TD . We need more of that from him. I jus hope we can take that fire and energy next week to patriots. That will be the real test to see if we are a strong playoff team. 

[BALTIMOREFLACCO]

Dixon is going to be a stud

[PurpleCity5]

Fantastic performance by the offense. This was one of the team's best games since probably the Bucs game in 2014. Such an all around great performance and this offense should have loads of confidence going into next week. 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

1 hour ago, Militant X 1 said:

And IF the offense goes to Foxborough and lays a hot, stinky and smelly egg (which I definitely hope not)...is their game play against the Dolphins still viewed as a "breakout" game to you?  Cause it definitely wouldn't be to me.  It would just be 1 game that they "happen" to play well in but then choked in the next.

No it wouldn't. I agreed with you that it has to sustain afterwards to be a breakout day, otherwise it's just a blip on the radar.