A Potentially Outstanding Mudder

[Filmstudy]

I'm not sure if they still do this in racing forms, but it used to be an asterisk meant a horse was a "mudder" with experience/success in sloppy conditions.

This Ravens team has several characteristics I like in a poor-weather thoroughbread:

1. A decent offensive line

2. An outstanding run defense

3. Decent ball skills in the secondary

4. Perhaps the most wind-resistant QB

In fact, the only thing i don't like about the Ravens in poor weather is the impact on Justin Tucker.

These characteristics could play well in the Ravens remaining cold-weather, outdoor schedule and into the playoffs if they qualify.

[VermontRaven]

4 hours ago, Filmstudy said:

I'm not sure if they still do this in racing forms, but it used to be an asterisk meant a horse was a "mudder" with experience/success in sloppy conditions.

This Ravens team has several characteristics I like in a poor-weather thoroughbread:

1. A decent offensive line

2. An outstanding run defense

3. Decent ball skills in the secondary

4. Perhaps the most wind-resistant QB

In fact, the only thing i don't like about the Ravens in poor weather is the impact on Justin Tucker.

These characteristics could play well in the Ravens remaining cold-weather, outdoor schedule and into the playoffs if they qualify.

I'll take Tucker in bad conditions over any other kicker in the league!

[Somerset Ravens]

5 hours ago, Filmstudy said:

I'm not sure if they still do this in racing forms, but it used to be an asterisk meant a horse was a "mudder" with experience/success in sloppy conditions.

This Ravens team has several characteristics I like in a poor-weather thoroughbread:

1. A decent offensive line

2. An outstanding run defense

3. Decent ball skills in the secondary

4. Perhaps the most wind-resistant QB

In fact, the only thing i don't like about the Ravens in poor weather is the impact on Justin Tucker.

These characteristics could play well in the Ravens remaining cold-weather, outdoor schedule and into the playoffs if they qualify.

I think Justin Tucker will do fine in poor weather. Our offensive line has struggled all year which has resulted in a porous running attack. Our lack of run game will be a major detriment in bad weather.

[January J]

6 hours ago, Filmstudy said:

I'm not sure if they still do this in racing forms, but it used to be an asterisk meant a horse was a "mudder" with experience/success in sloppy conditions.

This Ravens team has several characteristics I like in a poor-weather thoroughbread:

1. A decent offensive line

2. An outstanding run defense

3. Decent ball skills in the secondary

4. Perhaps the most wind-resistant QB

In fact, the only thing i don't like about the Ravens in poor weather is the impact on Justin Tucker.

These characteristics could play well in the Ravens remaining cold-weather, outdoor schedule and into the playoffs if they qualify.

 

2 hours ago, VermontRaven said:

I'll take Tucker in bad conditions over any other kicker in the league!

Exactly- in bad weather atleast our kicker will have the advantage over the other.

[Filmstudy]

Nobody is debating Tucker would be better than other kickers is poor weather, but he's a big advantage in normal weather or a dome and a smaller advantage the worse the weather is.

[AsianRice]

43 minutes ago, Filmstudy said:

Nobody is debating Tucker would be better than other kickers is poor weather, but he's a big advantage in normal weather or a dome and a smaller advantage the worse the weather is.

Miles High Miracle with 13F and 47yd FG to win the game.......hmmm so nobody debate Tucker better than other kickers? and small advantage in worse weather condition? r u following Ravens games at all? lol...mind bogging...

 

Tucker is da best in NFL to kick in the baddest weather you can possibly imagine......other kickers will choke and miss an extra pt....

 

 

[usmccharles]

16 minutes ago, AsianRice said:

Miles High Miracle with 13F and 47yd FG to win the game.......hmmm so nobody debate Tucker better than other kickers? and small advantage in worse weather condition? r u following Ravens games at all? lol...mind bogging...

Tucker is da best in NFL to kick in the baddest weather you can possibly imagine......other kickers will choke and miss an extra pt....

It might have been cold but that place is the easiest to kick in outside of domes.  I wonder what the wind was at though, that would be more telling imo

[AsianRice]

5 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

It might have been cold but that place is the easiest to kick in outside of domes.  I wonder what the wind was at though, that would be more telling imo

when temperature gets to 13F, the pressure in football drops immensely and it is like kicking a flat heavy ball.  Good luck with that to kick it for a game winning FG......

[usmccharles]

2 minutes ago, AsianRice said:

when temperature gets to 13F, the pressure in football drops immensely and it is like kicking a flat heavy ball.  Good luck with that to kick it for a game winning FG......

Doesn't appear Tucker needed luck. 

[reed20]

We don't have a run game though. Need that come December.

[usmccharles]

2 minutes ago, reed20 said:

We don't have a run game though. Need that come December.

This is the biggest issue and why I have no confidence in our team. 

[JoeyFlex5]

5 hours ago, VermontRaven said:

I'll take Tucker in bad conditions over any other kicker in the league!

That's definitely not what he was saying...

Were more dependent on our kicker than any team in the league and bad weather affecting the kicker hurts us more than any other team, regardless of how epic our kicker is.

[JoeyFlex5]

The lack of comprehension here is stunning. TUCKER IS STILL AN ADVANTAGE REGARDLESS OF WEATHER! The problem is OUR OFFENSE and he's saying we are too reliant on field goals to score points, so bad weather affects that drastically. 

Come on people. Filmstudy has posted enough around here to assure us that he knows what he's talking about, use common sense.

[AsianRice]

It is a team sport and people keep forgetting that; every single position on the team will have potential impact to the outcome of the game.  Great offense but bad ST will hurt in the close game or great defense with bad offense or you can shuffle around with all 3 phases. In this case, our offense are trying to get better and need some times to gel, so they need ST and defense to buy them some times.  I believe after the Dolphins game, our offense will have their own identities and we will rock and roll when we get to Foxborough....

 

PS: call me crazy but this team will get hot in December and starting from this Sunday.....

 

Edited December 2, 2016 by AsianRice

[usmccharles]

6 minutes ago, AsianRice said:

It is a team sport and people keep forgetting that; every single position on the team will have potential impact to the outcome of the game.  Great offense but bad ST will hurt in the close game or great defense with bad offense or you can shuffle around with all 3 phases. In this case, our offense are trying to get better and need some times to gel, so they need ST and defense to buy them some times.  I believe after the Dolphins game, our offense will have their own identities and we will rock and roll when we get to Foxborough....

 

PS: call me crazy but this team will get hot in December and starting from this Sunday.....

 

Your crazy

[terrynjulia03]

47 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

The lack of comprehension here is stunning. TUCKER IS STILL AN ADVANTAGE REGARDLESS OF WEATHER! The problem is OUR OFFENSE and he's saying we are too reliant on field goals to score points, so bad weather affects that drastically. 

Come on people. Filmstudy has posted enough around here to assure us that he knows what he's talking about, use common sense.

Lol amen. Film is far more knowledgeable than the majority. The fact that his original post has 2 negatives shows that people obviously lack that reading comprehension. 

Here let me try breaking it down Barney style for them. Tucker is the best in the league, however en weather will effect him. The other teams kicker in extreme conditions could miss a 40 yarder, now for Tucker that number is a 50 yarder. So yes Tucker is still better. However relying on FGs in a gusty snow storm is foolish. 

Ill also echo others that our run game worries me the most. Cold, crappy weather games are won by the team who can run the ball, and the other side stop the run. Period. You can throw as much fancy as you want into it, but the fact still remains. But going into December games, were getting Boyle back, huge boost over Pitts's pathetic excuses at blocking. Not to mention he's an additional asset in the passing game. Hopefully we'll start seeing more Jumbo sets with Boyle and Waller and forcing teams to stick with base formations. Both are matchup problems for LBs on routes and PA becomes big with that. 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Here's what he's saying about Tucker -

Not that he stinks in bad weather. The worry is, lets say in a bad weather game.... their kicker misses all 3 of his FG's, and Tucker makes 4/5 only missing a 60 yarder. Tucker still his usual big advantage over the other teams kicker.

Problem is, in the same game the opponents offense scores 2 TDs and we score none. While Tucker is still money and far better than other kickers (theres made 0/3 while Tuck nails 4/5) we would lose this game. The point is, our points total is FAR too dependent on Tucker, while most other teams just arent. 

In inclement weather, while the advantage Tucker provides over other kickers is the same, his margin for error is as razor thin as always while the potential for error vastly increases. Depending on him to go, say, 5/5 with snow, rain, big wind, etc... is a risky proposition and not a winning formula.

We've needed Tucker to be perfect to be where we are. If the offense doesnt change, the potential impact inclement weather has on the kicking game is scary proposition. Expecting Tuck to drill 3, 50 yd field goals at Heinz on Christmas isnt a game plan I'd advise.

Edited December 2, 2016 by BOLDnPurPnBlacK

[AsianRice]

2 hours ago, usmccharles said:

Your crazy

thank you....

[Tank 92]

14 hours ago, Filmstudy said:

I'm not sure if they still do this in racing forms, but it used to be an asterisk meant a horse was a "mudder" with experience/success in sloppy conditions.

This Ravens team has several characteristics I like in a poor-weather thoroughbread:

1. A decent offensive line

2. An outstanding run defense

3. Decent ball skills in the secondary

4. Perhaps the most wind-resistant QB

In fact, the only thing i don't like about the Ravens in poor weather is the impact on Justin Tucker.

These characteristics could play well in the Ravens remaining cold-weather, outdoor schedule and into the playoffs if they qualify.

Not sure why you are garnering negs for this post. I swear these boards get stranger every day.  haha

Anyway, I totally agree. I think it has been the mantra of the Ravens FO for some time that they build their teams for "December football", meaning cold and bad weather. It would seem what you outline backs this up. Add in the improving running game and we could be set up for a nice little run here at the end of the season. Really helps that the AFC North as a whole has been struggling up to this point which gives us a decent shot at the division crown.

A month ago it looked as though we may just end up playing out the season getting ready for next year. Now it seems the Ravens have a legitimate shot at making the tournament. Let's hope that this "mudder" has the stamina to pass the sprinters in the stretch and to stick there nose in front at the wire!

[RavensPunkXVX]

12 hours ago, VermontRaven said:

I'll take Tucker in bad conditions over any other kicker in the league!

A little write up by Bucky on Justin Tucker being league MVP! Nice recognition for the leagues best!

Justin Tucker MVP

Edited December 3, 2016 by RavensPunkXVX

[AsianRice]

I was crazy..............

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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