Next up: Ràvens vs Dolphins December 4th M&T Bank stadium

[Moderator 3]

47 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

I honestly have no idea what you are talking about now. 

Then don't even try. 

[usmccharles]

4 minutes ago, Moderator 3 said:

Then don't even try. 

Is it just me? 

[VermontRaven]

7 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

Is it just me? 

No.  Hint:  Ignored user function is a thing of beauty.  

[Cillmatic]

The injury report will be crucial for both teams. Looks like there's a chance 3/5 of the starting dolphins o-line won't be playing. Jimmy should hopefully be able to play if we're lucky. 

[kjbmore]

58 minutes ago, VermontRaven said:

No.  Hint:  Ignored user function is a thing of beauty.  

Yes please - how do you ignore somebody on here

[VermontRaven]

Click on your login and go to account and click ignored users. A bit different look depending if you are on a computer or a mobile device.

[K-Dog]

1 hour ago, VermontRaven said:

No.  Hint:  Ignored user function is a thing of beauty.  

While I will admit the ignore feature is fantastic, I can't use it on that guy.
He makes me laugh far too often.  I would miss it. 

[kjbmore]

7 minutes ago, VermontRaven said:

Click on your login and go to account and click ignored users. A bit different look depending if you are on a computer or a mobile device.

Thank you kindly

[kjbmore]

The question against the Dolphins and I think every game going forward will be - can our offense score enough points to win.

If we crack 20 @ home we should be ok against Miami - I hope

one TD and 5 FG - sounds about right 

22 -13 Ravens

 

[nextgen_RavensFan]

On 11/27/2016 at 4:54 PM, terrynjulia03 said:

I had the game on the Miami Niners game on the TV while watching ours on the tablet. Miami really didn't look all that great. TBH the Niners D the entire game looks like ours in the 4th. But with that means we're gonna have to keep the game close the entire time. If we get a big lead, and big I mean 10 points I have zero confidence in either side of the ball coaches to call the right plays and we're gonna lose. As long as it's close, and even us e trailing going into the 4th we'll be ok and win, maybe even easily. 

Same here, Teams like the Dolphins we have a better at beating. It is the pass happy teams that scare me. The Dolphins game should be another very close game that we win off of the leg of Tucker. 

[HoldingCall]

11 minutes ago, nextgen_RavensFan said:

Same here, Teams like the Dolphins we have a better at beating. It is the pass happy teams that scare me. The Dolphins game should be another very close game that we win off of the leg of Tucker. 

The only problem with, "Off the leg of Tucker" means the team isn't scoring TDs.

[HoldingCall]

8 hours ago, kjbmore said:

The question against the Dolphins and I think every game going forward will be - can our offense score enough points to win.

If we crack 20 @ home we should be ok against Miami - I hope

one TD and 5 FG - sounds about right 

22 -13 Ravens

 

Juszczyk, the FB should not be the team's 4th leading receiver. He has more than Perriman, West, Dixon, and Aiken. Red-zone scoring may need a change in the routine, somewhat.

[JoeyFlex5]

13 hours ago, Steve0x said:

I say Tough,,,If Ravens good enough to beat Dolphins maybe the Steelers should have a game plan to beat the Giants. NFL is fixed just like the WWE is.

Lol

[jboy19]

I don't feel good about this game. Miami really needs to win this game and they're definitely going to bring everything they have. The Miami WRs are one of the more underrated groups in the NFL. I think that Jimmy Smith can match up well against Devante Parker and Tavon can matchup well against Landry- who has been pretty quiet recently. I doubt Ajayi goes off against the Ravens though- especially if the Miami OL is as unhealthy as it seems. 

The offense will struggle a lot. That Miami DL is no joke- there needs to be a plan to deal with Suh, Wake and Williams- quick passes, draws, etc.- I don't see how we'll be able to rely on the long ball with Ducasse and Half-Yanda up against that interior pressure. 

This game is going to be a fight, and (assuming Jimmy Smith plays), I think the game ends Baltimore 16, Miami 13. 

[VermontRaven]

2 hours ago, HoldingCall said:

The only problem with, "Off the leg of Tucker" means the team isn't scoring TDs.

Not a problem if you get enough of them.  Any way you score more points than the other team works...might not be sexy, but often is very effective, especially with our defense (hopefully Jimmy is back to make it that much stronger)

Edited November 29, 2016 by VermontRaven

[TuckerTime9]

We need Jimmy this game. Devante Parker has been on fire and last year he had that spectacular touchdown against us. 

[JoeyFlex5]

Has anyone noticed how we've stopped losing games we should have won since we started taking field goals when we need to? Except for that one bonehead 4th down call that we happened to convert.. We have been mostly not going for it on 4th. And I feel like we've held more comfortable leads since we changed that

[trevorsteadman]

5 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Has anyone noticed how we've stopped losing games we should have won since we started taking field goals when we need to? Except for that one bonehead 4th down call that we happened to convert.. We have been mostly not going for it on 4th. And I feel like we've held more comfortable leads since we changed that

Yep I was so annoyed of that. That Oakland game was a definite win if we took field goals and so was the Redskins game (I believe it has been awhile and I'm half asleep). Ravens offense isn't consistent enough to go for it on 4th down... Especially when you have Tucker you take the points and especially when your defense has played really good football overall. 

[rmcjacket23]

27 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Has anyone noticed how we've stopped losing games we should have won since we started taking field goals when we need to? Except for that one bonehead 4th down call that we happened to convert.. We have been mostly not going for it on 4th. And I feel like we've held more comfortable leads since we changed that

Has nothing to do with that. In our last four games (where we are 3-1), we really haven't had any opportunities to make said decisions. 

We had one on Sunday, and we went for it, which is what we've been doing and likely will continue to do. We passed on a 52 yard FG (after Tucker had already made 3 of them in that game) with a 7 point lead at the end of the 3rd quarter. It was converted, and we were able to run another almost 3 minutes off the clock.

Not being discussed of course, because we converted, and fans only ever complain about these things when it doesn't go their way.

These decisions are obviously situational, but in most circumstances, most teams are going to pass up a 50+ yard FG in order to convert a yard. There's only a handful of situations where I see that being different, and its mostly based on score and time in the game remaining. This wasn't one of those situations.

 

[JoeyFlex5]

11 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Has nothing to do with that. In our last four games (where we are 3-1), we really haven't had any opportunities to make said decisions. 

We had one on Sunday, and we went for it, which is what we've been doing and likely will continue to do. We passed on a 52 yard FG (after Tucker had already made 3 of them in that game) with a 7 point lead at the end of the 3rd quarter. It was converted, and we were able to run another almost 3 minutes off the clock.

Not being discussed of course, because we converted, and fans only ever complain about these things when it doesn't go their way.

These decisions are obviously situational, but in most circumstances, most teams are going to pass up a 50+ yard FG in order to convert a yard. There's only a handful of situations where I see that being different, and its mostly based on score and time in the game remaining. This wasn't one of those situations.

 

I pointed out that situation in the post and said it was a bonehead call that luckily we made lol. 

But it just doesn't seem like we've been doing it much lately? Did we attempt any 4th downs against Pitt or Cleveland?

[OUravensfan]

Where's Mili?, someone tell him this week is the week our offense breaks out! 

In all seriousness, we'll go as far as Joe takes us, the run game won't carry us, Joe is gonna have to get it done. 

[rmcjacket23]

5 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I pointed out that situation in the post and said it was a bonehead call that luckily we made lol. 

But it just doesn't seem like we've been doing it much lately? Did we attempt any 4th downs against Pitt or Cleveland?

None that I saw.

I didn't think the call was that boneheaded. I think fans just assume that because we have a good kicker we should kick it all the time, but that changes with a single missed kick. 

If its a shorter kick, in the 40 yard range or so, sure, I probably kick, and I think he would there as well. But that's not what this was.

Its an aggressive call, and ultimately, that's what fans want. In a worst case scenario, we don't get it, we put our defense on the field who had been performing well, and we still have a 7 point lead in the 4th quarter.

In theory, the ACTUAL worst case scenario there is a blocked or missed FG, because that gives the Bengals even better field position than they have if we don't convert.

Best case scenario... you convert, extend the drive, score a TD, and largely put the game away or close to it. And as we saw, you can convert it, take more time off the clock, and still get the points you passed up, which is probably the most likely of outcomes.

When you weight the pros and cons, I have no issue with going for it there.

[VermontRaven]

Look who's back (to our practice squad)

Now, let's hope we stay healthy at CB and we don't see him on the field.  I'm hoping this is not a sign that Jimmy's injury is lingering any longer.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

22 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

In an ideal spot, it would probably be the reverse. Landry plays out of the slot more often I believe, which means ideally he would draw more of Young or Powers. Jimmy would likely stay on the perimeter, probably mostly against Parker.

Landry isn't the "go to" receiver for the Dolphins anymore. Hasn't caught more than six passes in a game in five straight games, and hasn't topped 100 yards since week 3. Averaging around 40 yards/game the last four games, and that's against some pretty bad pass defenses (Jets/49ers).

Parker is somebody I'd want to spend more time emphasizing to play against, and also making sure we don't get beat over the top by Stills.

Not only that, from what ive seen Landry runs a lot of short comebacks, quick slants, bubble screens, etc... sudden stuff that gets the ball into his hands quickly. 

Pretty much every ball ive seen Jimmy give up this year has been like a 5-8 yd comeback, bubble screen or quick slant... mostly come backs though and Landry does that all day.

Tavon is much better quickly breaking up field to close and break up those kinds of passes. 

Jimmys much better at disrupting guys off their routes, fighting for position down field and playing stuff over the top which is how Parker attacks the field. Plus jimmy's got the size and strength to go up and fight for those jump balls. 

Id much rather see Jimmy on Parker and Tavon on Landry.... though - isnt Parker injured now?

[rmcjacket23]

5 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Not only that, from what ive seen Landry runs a lot of short comebacks, quick slants, bubble screens, etc... sudden stuff that gets the ball into his hands quickly. 

Pretty much every ball ive seen Jimmy give up this year has been like a 5-8 yd comeback, bubble screen or quick slant... mostly come backs though and Landry does that all day.

Tavon is much better quickly breaking up field to close and break up those kinds of passes. 

Jimmys much better at disrupting guys off their routes, fighting for position down field and playing stuff over the top which is how Parker attacks the field. Plus jimmy's got the size and strength to go up and fight for those jump balls. 

Id much rather see Jimmy on Parker and Tavon on Landry.... though - isnt Parker injured now?

Injured his back on Sunday. Probably won't see updates on him until tomorrow.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Just now, rmcjacket23 said:

Injured his back on Sunday. Probably won't see updates on him until tomorrow.

Ok cool. Yea i knew he left the game and didnt return, just wasnt sure of the severity.

[Tornado700]

There is no good reason why we should lose to the Ciuncinatti football squad. Agree?

[baroquenspirit]

Ajayi has really fallen off the last couple weeks. Maybe he is wearing out already. If their running game dries up, Tannehill is still Tannehill and thats not saying much. 

[Militant X 1]

5 hours ago, OUravensfan said:

Where's Mili?, someone tell him this week is the week our offense breaks out! 

In all seriousness, we'll go as far as Joe takes us, the run game won't carry us, Joe is gonna have to get it done. 

Ya'll and all of this "breakout" talk for the offense is hilarious OU!  

[RavensFanMania]

16 minutes ago, Militant X 1 said:

Ya'll and all of this "breakout" talk for the offense is hilarious OU!  

What do you mean. Twenty one points is a breakout.  That's 4 fg 1 td and a blocked 2 point conversion. As long as the fins have less it's a w in my books