Week 12: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly post game discussion/rant Bengals edition!

[playlikeawhat]

Never doubted Harbs during the final possession.  Happy to know he'd rather secure victories than impress shallow fans.

[rafahash]

The offense still sucks.

I'm so happy we have Tucker. This guy is crazy good.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Just now, ludy51 said:

Almost. You didn't fix the ugly

If you look it's "the offensive" as in the people blaming Flacco are the ugly ones..

 

Also Andy Dalton = offensive. Want to talk about an actual overrated QB. No QB in the NFL is more overrated than Dalton

[arnie_uk]

2 minutes ago, Edgar said:

Three points. Second half.

He calls out one player, not the whole offense.

Smith stupid penalties.

Oline couldn't block.

Flacco missed a few throws. Still over 70 percent completion percentage again.

Few dropped balls.

Some poor play calling.

Every part of the offense is too blame except dixon and west. 

 

 

[ravens rule]

The bad: It's week 12 and we still can't figure out how to score tds. 

[hn68wb4]

Dixon was so impressive too, he's so good at weaving through traffic and there was more than once that he was met in the backfield only to break a tackle or two and make something out of nothing. Anyone doubting him just need to stop, if our line blocked at all then he would have had a monster day.

[K-Dog]

STUPID penalties . 

[arnie_uk]

Just now, hn68wb4 said:

Dixon was so impressive too, he's so good at weaving through traffic and there was more than once that he was met in the backfield only to break a tackle or two and make something out of nothing. Anyone doubting him just need to stop, if our line blocked at all then he would have had a monster day.

All starts with oline

[Grapple Raven]

The good:  Burfict did kill anyone!

[Cville-Raven]

Offense starts amazing and can't keep the foot on the gass. Steve needs to contain himself. I know we all like his fire but those penalties are inexcusable. I think we need to give Dixon the primary back role now. 

[Nge2grads]

The Good:  Amazing Justin Tucker and getting a W!  Back on top in our division.  ST playbook!

The Bad:  Andy Dalton

The Ugly: Vontaze Burfict!

[Bltravens]

1 minute ago, Cville-Raven said:

Offense starts amazing and can't keep the foot on the gass. Steve needs to contain himself. I know we all like his fire but those penalties are inexcusable. I think we need to give Dixon the primary back role now. 

That was a soft call on Smith, bizarre with 35 refs on a field no one can see that Burfict flopped like a fish.

[ratedr]

That 4-0 division record is why we might make the playoffs. But good lord if we do make it we'll make a quick exit with this pathetic offense. The defense is unclutch as usual but the offense can't even score 20 points.

[OldToby]

I think the offense could actually compete if we had a Line. I just think the oline is messing with the rest of the game plan. I think it might be time for Castillo to leave. He had ONE good season, and that's when Kubiak was the implementing his own zone blocking scheme. Love his motivational skills, and assume that might be why he has been kept here so long but we have had some major oline trouble the past couple years with him here. 

[hn68wb4]

Something unexpected from this game: Wright wasn't abused all day, but the bad news is that Tavon was, without Jimmy the past two weeks he's had a really hard time. Also Weddles dropped gimme pick still has me in shock, our dline catches better than our secondary it seems.

[Cville-Raven]

Just now, Bltravens said:

That was a soft call on Smith, bizarre with 35 refs on a field no one can see that Burfict flopped like a fish.

While it was a flop the refs always call the player who retaliates. Don't even give them a reason to call a personal foul.

[terrynjulia03]

Scoring 3 points in the 2nd half means you lose against almost any team. Sorry but this isn't a playoff team. Oh we're gonna scratch our way in. And prob get embarrassed at home in the WC game. 

[OldToby]

Just now, ratedr said:

That 4-0 division record is why we might make the playoffs. But good lord if we do make it we'll make a quick exit with this pathetic offense. The defense is unclutch as usual but the offense can't even score 20 points.

A lot of people are counting on Playoff Joe. Let's hope he shows up during the playoffs, if we make it. 

[redrum52]

The good... we won and my parlay is still alive.

 

Offense still worries me and we need Jimmy back.  Pass rush wouldn't hurt either.

 

Tucker

Edited November 27, 2016 by redrum52

[rmcjacket23]

1 minute ago, terrynjulia03 said:

Scoring 3 points in the 2nd half means you lose against almost any team. Sorry but this isn't a playoff team. Oh we're gonna scratch our way in. And prob get embarrassed at home in the WC game. 

And about 20 other NFL teams would be highly jealous of that.

[hn68wb4]

Just now, ratedr said:

That 4-0 division record is why we might make the playoffs. But good lord if we do make it we'll make a quick exit with this pathetic offense. The defense is unclutch as usual but the offense can't even score 20 points.

If we win one of our two remaining division games then we're in. I beg to differ that we'll be a quick out, playoff Flacco is a whole other animal, and at this point people should stop doubting his existence. Defense wins in January and if we're at full strength on defense then we'll be tough to beat.

[Militant X 1]

9 minutes ago, Ravensfan23 said:

I blame coaching for the 2nd half offensive production. It just always seems like this team is scared to put people away and they play not to lose instead of play to win. Then we you actually need the offense to crank it up they just seem cold and out of rhythm. I don't know if that is  trust thing or what but he has to get better. 

Great to see both Boyle and Doom back on the field. Boyle had a few really good blocks today. 

Great to see Perriman get into the endzone, sucks that he only had 2 targets. I know the Bengals focus was to take away deep plays, but I would have still liked to see him more involved. 

Dixon has a lot of Ray Rice in him and I think he'll be huge for this offense going forward. I like he and West together but I think he brings much more for this offense. 

How much more can you say about JT Money. He could very well be the best Kicker of all time. 

I'll give the Bengals props. I thought they were ready to quite on their season but I thought they fought hard today and you'd expect nothing less from this division even in a down year. 

Note to the Ravens, just try to bat the ball down all game because getting pressure just doesn't seem possible outside of Suggs and Timmy. 

Once again the penalties hurt this team, other than the last play of the game which was just smart by Harbs and Jerry. Can't wait to break this game down. 

And this is what just urks and pisses me off about the Ravens coaching staff!  To be a beast...you have to play like a beast!  You put your foot on teams necks and you keep applying the pressure by scoring and scoring and scoring!  You give them no hope of winning the game and break their spirits to win!  I'd love to see the Ravens be that team but they're not!

[OldToby]

I think with the return of Doom, we might just see an extra sack or 2 on the stat sheets every game. Even if he can't finish and get the sack he has been pretty good with causing pressure. Acquiring another linebacker will only help the rotation. 

Edited November 27, 2016 by OldToby

[jimmypowder]

20 minutes ago, Ravenseconbeast said:

Another garbage performance by Joe Flacco.   Had over 13 drives to do something.   Last drive he had to keep the drives going.  Instead he only lasted a full minute and 12 seconds.   By some miracle we batted +5 balls off of Dalton on that last drive and stripped him off his ball.   Miracle defense play.   

Worse than Kyle Boller in every shape and form possible by Joe Fluker.   I told you he wasn't going to do squat after 1st drive.   He nearly ended our season.  Glad we are still alive.  Thanks to the Defense!

Put down the bong . 

[Militant X 1]

1 minute ago, OldToby said:

A lot of people are counting on Playoff Joe. Let's hope he shows up during the playoffs, if we make it. 

Man, I'd just love to see a better regular season Joe and dominant offensive performance.

[757RavensFan]

The Good:  We're 1 game better than our 2015 record. 

[ravens rule]

I like the creativity that Marty showed in the game plan but we are still not good in both the running and passing game.

[rmcjacket23]

My bad: Still the running game.

We do what fans want, which is quantity of runs, but really don't see where the quality is.

27 designed runs for under 100 yards (96 yards). That's 3.5 YPC. That's not very effective.

Our QB was tied for the longest run of the game, and we are complete garbage running the ball when the defense is playing the run.

We had a 2nd and 1 and a 3rd and 3 on back to back plays. We ran the ball... we lost 4 yards.

2nd and 2 in the 4th quarter... run for a loss of 2 yards.

I believe by my count we had 5 runs on the day for negative yardage. That's almost 20% of all designed running plays. And you wonder why it appears we abandon the run all the time. If one out of every five running plays loses yardage, and you're only averaging like 3-4 YPC, why on Earth would you continue to run it?

Does anybody really think the more "balanced" approach was effective today?

I'd have thrown it 40-45 times, and I think we'd have been more successful doing it. Sure, West and Dixon looked good... because they're getting hit at the line of scrimmage on every play and breaking a ton of tackles. That's NOT a good thing. Its not a sustainable model to running the ball effectively.

 

Edited November 27, 2016 by rmcjacket23

[terrynjulia03]

4 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

And about 20 other NFL teams would be highly jealous of that.

? Maybe. Just for competitive nature. But only 2-3 could honestly say they deserve a spot. 

[AsianRice]

GOOD: TUCKERTRON

GOOD: 4-0 division

GOOD: We won against our nightmare Bengals

BAD: Offense

WORST: Andy...haha