Free Agency 2017 (Players from Other Teams We Should Consider)

[Gtown Purple]

Just now, RavensFanMania said:

Yeah and it's quite possible we trade up with comp picks tradeable now.  We should have a 3rd in this years draft.

Maybe, hard to say how the 2017 board is going to fall but most pundits see more overall talent on the defensive side. I don't think we need much on offense.

 

QB -set

RB- pretty much set

WR- We draft horribly at this position but nothing before the 4th round

TE- Unless we cut Pitta I think we are good here.

OL- Could see Guard and Center as spots to bulk up

[Gtown Purple]

3 minutes ago, RavensFanMania said:

Timmy is definitely the more valuable and explosive player.  He is turning out to be a steal in the 2nd round.

His progression has been high.

[RavensFanMania]

1 minute ago, Gtown Purple said:

Maybe, hard to say how the 2017 board is going to fall but most pundits see more overall talent on the defensive side. I don't think we need much on offense.

 

QB -set

RB- pretty much set

WR- We draft horribly at this position but nothing before the 4th round

TE- Unless we cut Pitta I think we are good here.

OL- Could see Guard and Center as spots to bulk up

Since Joe Flacco was drafted the only WR we drafted in the first has been Perriman and he looks like he may be a good one.  Torrey did pretty well as a 2nd rounder as well.  

I agree we should draft another guard / center and but I feel another possibly WR and TE may be in order.

[rossihunter2]

8 minutes ago, Gtown Purple said:

Maybe, hard to say how the 2017 board is going to fall but most pundits see more overall talent on the defensive side. I don't think we need much on offense.

 

QB -set

RB- pretty much set

WR- We draft horribly at this position but nothing before the 4th round

TE- Unless we cut Pitta I think we are good here.

OL- Could see Guard and Center as spots to bulk up

as always it will bpa and i for one would welcome anyone at any of the positions above except qb because competition only makes you stronger and we've seen how quickly supposed depth can disappear a la the tight end position and the offensive line earlier in the year

[rossihunter2]

12 minutes ago, RavensFanMania said:

Timmy is definitely the more valuable and explosive player.  He is turning out to be a steal in the 2nd round.

the only thing is, timmy disappears for stretches whereas bwill is about as solid and consistent as they come

[Gtown Purple]

2 minutes ago, RavensFanMania said:

Since Joe Flacco was drafted the only WR we drafted in the first has been Perriman and he looks like he may be a good one.  Torrey did pretty well as a 2nd rounder as well.  

I agree we should draft another guard / center and but I feel another possibly WR and TE may be in order.

There have just been so many misses at WR in the past and if you asked about Perriman before this season most people would not have had much confidence. The fact he has stayed healthy is really good and if he can continue his arrow is pointed up.

Guard and center seem pretty important if not most important on offense for me. We need to backfill for eventual Zuttah leaving and Jensen\Urschel are backups at best. Unless we resign Wagner I see Lewis as RT in the future.

WR wouldn't surprise me but I don't think early unless someone falls. TE is quite backlogged with Pitta, Williams, Waller, and Boyle. Something will have to give here.

 

[rossihunter2]

Just now, Gtown Purple said:

There have just been so many misses at WR in the past and if you asked about Perriman before this season most people would not have had much confidence. The fact he has stayed healthy is really good and if he can continue his arrow is pointed up.

Guard and center seem pretty important if not most important on offense for me. We need to backfill for eventual Zuttah leaving and Jensen\Urschel are backups at best. Unless we resign Wagner I see Lewis as RT in the future.

WR wouldn't surprise me but I don't think early unless someone falls. TE is quite backlogged with Pitta, Williams, Waller, and Boyle. Something will have to give here.

 

as weve seen from this year, you can never have too many quality linemen

[Gtown Purple]

4 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

as weve seen from this year, you can never have too many quality linemen

For real, although we pulled Ducasse off the scrap heap.

[VermontRaven]

1 hour ago, Gtown Purple said:

Maybe, hard to say how the 2017 board is going to fall but most pundits see more overall talent on the defensive side. I don't think we need much on offense.

 

QB -set

RB- pretty much set

WR- We draft horribly at this position but nothing before the 4th round

TE- Unless we cut Pitta I think we are good here.

OL- Could see Guard and Center as spots to bulk up

I think we could use a tackle as well for depth in the middle rounds, especially if we lose Wagner. I think we all agree that would like to have a better backup option than Hurst. If we retain Wagner, this is less of a need because Lewis is an OK backup tackle.

[OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL]

We should pick up CB McClain, the Panthers just cut him. Asap

[Gtown Purple]

31 minutes ago, VermontRaven said:

I think we could use a tackle as well for depth in the middle rounds, especially if we lose Wagner. I think we all agree that would like to have a better backup option than Hurst. If we retain Wagner, this is less of a need because Lewis is an OK backup tackle.

If we resign Wagner Lewis is depth. Hurst is only meant for backup material.

[RavensFanMania]

55 minutes ago, Gtown Purple said:

If we resign Wagner Lewis is depth. Hurst is only meant for backup material.

I don't even like him for backup duty.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

1 hour ago, RavensFanMania said:

I don't even like him for backup duty.

He's the worst left bench in the league. And that's saying something

[kjbmore]

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18253609/nfl-projected-salary-cap-2017-expected-163-165-million
http://es.pn/2govBHP

 

mo money to bring in all the big time FAs

[rmcjacket23]

On 12/9/2016 at 9:19 PM, Gtown Purple said:

If we resign Wagner Lewis is depth. Hurst is only meant for backup material.

Lewis will be a starter next year somewhere. If we retain Wagner, Lewis will almost certainly start at LG. 

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Oh look, the salary cap went up a bunch next year like it does almost every year. Too bad flacco's contract made crime go up, the value of the dollar drop, and made cancer stronger, cause otherwise we could spend in FA.~Ravens fan logic 

Edited December 11, 2016 by LosT_in_TranSlatioN

[jboy19]

I don't think the salary cap going up is very significant. I think it will just raise the bidding price for guys like BWill and Wagner, which is a bummer. 

[rossihunter2]

2 minutes ago, jboy19 said:

I don't think the salary cap going up is very significant. I think it will just raise the bidding price for guys like BWill and Wagner, which is a bummer. 

yeah it creates room every year, but player contracts get bigger every year

[Rav'n Maniac]

10 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

yeah it creates room every year, but player contracts get bigger every year

Agreed but the cap never increases enough to cover the annual increases in players salaries. That's why it continues to become more & more difficult each year to retain players on 2nd contracts.

[rossihunter2]

27 minutes ago, Rav'n Maniac said:

Agreed but the cap never increases enough to cover the annual increases in players salaries. That's why it continues to become more & more difficult each year to retain players on 2nd contracts.

it does - but not for the ravens because we are constantly at the cap - the increase in player salaries and average cap space will always increase at the same rate otherwise it is an unsustainable system where no one could afford to pay anyone - which would drive prices down again to the equilibrium

it just always feels like the cap isnt increasing enough

[DomMcRaven]

2 hours ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

Oh look, the salary cap went up a bunch next year like it does almost every year. Too bad flacco's contract made crime go up, the value of the dollar drop, and made cancer stronger, cause otherwise we could spend in FA.~Ravens fan logic 

Don't do this man, lol. 

[JO_75]

4 hours ago, kjbmore said:

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18253609/nfl-projected-salary-cap-2017-expected-163-165-million
http://es.pn/2govBHP

 

mo money to bring in all the big time FAs

Alright cap gurus, with the estimated cap increase now revealed, what does our cap look like heading into 2017?

[Rav'n Maniac]

5 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

it does - but not for the ravens because we are constantly at the cap - the increase in player salaries and average cap space will always increase at the same rate otherwise it is an unsustainable system where no one could afford to pay anyone - which would drive prices down again to the equilibrium

it just always feels like the cap isnt increasing enough

Sorry but I don't agree. A cap increase of 8 to 10m annually only scratches the surface of what is required to retain players coming off of rookie deals. After this season we will have 10 free agents. For the sake of example, let's say the team would like to retain 4 of the 10 (Williams, Wagner, Juszczyk and Guy) and not release any other players presently under contract. I don't feel you will be able to sign those 4 with that kind of increase. Williams would take most if not all of it himself.

In addition, the NFL sets the guideline for players salaries by position with the franchise tag values, which increase annually as well. Using those values or close to them realistically can't be done for all players not on rookie deals because it would far exceed the present cap levels.  

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Ian Rapoport just reported that the Jets will likely retain Bowles but will be getting rid of some big name players either by outright cuts or trade. 

Revis, Richardson and Brandon Marshall were named specifically. 

Idk what his contract looks like or what he'd be looking for in a new one, but with SSS retiring I'd love me some Brandon Marshall. 

Marshall, Wallace and Perriman could be a great WR corps. Obviously money is a huge factor there... and what we can do is directly tied to how we handle Williams and Wagner. 

But if we put a focus on building the offense I'd be ok with Marshall. He hasn't been an issue in quite a while and his production has been very good. I don't see him trailing off for another good 3 years or so. 

And give Joe a big, strong target who can run routes and get YAC to go along with the speed the other 2 bring. It'd be a dangerous group. 

Edited December 11, 2016 by BOLDnPurPnBlacK

[Gtown Purple]

I expect us to create some cap one way or another.......

 

We love cuts since they don't count against compensatory pick formula.

[Kid87]

On 11/23/2016 at 4:31 PM, Deflated Football said:

Just get proven playmakers man. Stop reaching into the bargain bin. Add speed to both sides of the ball. I'm jealous of the Giants with Odell, Steve Shep and Cruz. I'm jealous of the Steelers with AB, Bell and Bryant. Why can't we have that? Pay top dollar to Alshon and Pryor. Everyone says no because we have other people on the team to pay, but those players are on their way to another mediocre season. Anytime Aiken is the third option, we have a problem. AND PLEASE MAKE MAXX THE STARTER NEXT SEASON. 

Cruz is insignificant this year.

I like Pryor, idk about alshon 

Aiken probably gonna be #2 

Maxx isn't the best TE..

nick Boyle is better he gotta chill on the PED'a lol

 

[usmccharles]

18 hours ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Ian Rapoport just reported that the Jets will likely retain Bowles but will be getting rid of some big name players either by outright cuts or trade. 

Revis, Richardson and Brandon Marshall were named specifically. 

Idk what his contract looks like or what he'd be looking for in a new one, but with SSS retiring I'd love me some Brandon Marshall. 

Marshall, Wallace and Perriman could be a great WR corps. Obviously money is a huge factor there... and what we can do is directly tied to how we handle Williams and Wagner. 

But if we put a focus on building the offense I'd be ok with Marshall. He hasn't been an issue in quite a while and his production has been very good. I don't see him trailing off for another good 3 years or so. 

And give Joe a big, strong target who can run routes and get YAC to go along with the speed the other 2 bring. It'd be a dangerous group. 

When we hired Trestman as our OC I predicted that Marshal was going to cut or traded and was thinking (wishful) we could make a play for him,   I was kind of right as he went to the jets. The jets really need to Clean house and clear up wasted money,  I think Marshal will be out of our price range but who knows if he wants to just go to a contender.   I just hope he doesn't find his way to NE

[jboy19]

I wouldn't complain about upgrading the receiving corps in FA. Michael Floyd was just released from the Cardinals today over a DUI- never been our MO but I'd be happy if we picked him off waivers. I also think that Randall Cobb could be a Cap Casualty this offseason and I'd love to see if the Ravens could bring him in at a reasonable price. 

[Cillmatic]

Getting Floyd or Cobb would be a great pick up.

Edited December 14, 2016 by Cillmatic

[rmcjacket23]

Just now, Cillmatic said:

Getting Floyd or Cobb would be a great pick up.

Floyd is going to be too busy being suspended, so he's not an option. 

Cobb signed an extension with GB last year. In theory he could be a cut candidate, but I'd consider that unlikely.