Free Agency 2017 (Players from Other Teams We Should Consider)

[Deflated Football]

5 minutes ago, Purple_City39 said:

I actually hope the Ravens offer Cleveland a 7th, or even 6th, and they take it.

Gordon is an interesting prospect right now.  He's one mistake from a permanent ban so he can't cost all that much, even if he balls out this year and needs a contract next season (I don't know his current contract length).  At the same time, I think he might have matured since he was actually reinstated last year and withdrew himself to go to rehab. That takes some growing up imo.  And yeah, he's ripped right now. 

He has the potential to be so dominant if he can keep his head on straight

I agree with all of this! That'd be awesome if we somehow got him. Wishful thinking at this point though. 

[January J]

I think peanut is going to be the next udfa to step up and  ball out at the ILB position this season.

Rumors heating up about potential Boldin reunion.

 

[purpletide]

1 hour ago, Purple_City39 said:

I actually hope the Ravens offer Cleveland a 7th, or even 6th, and they take it.

Gordon is an interesting prospect right now.  He's one mistake from a permanent ban so he can't cost all that much, even if he balls out this year and needs a contract next season (I don't know his current contract length).  At the same time, I think he might have matured since he was actually reinstated last year and withdrew himself to go to rehab. That takes some growing up imo.  And yeah, he's ripped right now. 

He has the potential to be so dominant if he can keep his head on straight

I really like picking up Gordon, I think he could be a great player and if he messes up again then he's not our problem anymore. Low risk, high reward. If he can't stop violating the rules in a job that gets him millions of dollars a year for playing an awesome sport, he won't be able to stay on the team. Just an ounce of maturity could get us great talent at a low price.

[usmccharles]

1 minute ago, purpletide said:

I really like picking up Gordon, I think he could be a great player and if he messes up again then he's not our problem anymore. Low risk, high reward. If he can't stop violating the rules in a job that gets him millions of dollars a year for playing an awesome sport, he won't be able to stay on the team. Just an ounce of maturity could get us great talent at a low price.

pretty sure he's got an ounce of other stuff already

[purpletide]

2 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

pretty sure he's got an ounce of other stuff already

I'd say he has closer to pounds.

[RayRayRaven]

3 hours ago, January J said:

I think peanut is going to be the next udfa to step up and  ball out at the ILB position this season.

Rumors heating up about potential Boldin reunion.

 

well he nevah shuld of left. to bring him back wuld be serreous crow eatin and those egos might not have that in em so we hav to see but wiff joes trait for comfort with a ball catcha hes the gu y

2 hours ago, purpletide said:

I really like picking up Gordon, I think he could be a great player and if he messes up again then he's not our problem anymore. Low risk, high reward. If he can't stop violating the rules in a job that gets him millions of dollars a year for playing an awesome sport, he won't be able to stay on the team. Just an ounce of maturity could get us great talent at a low price.

all for Gordon and tossin some dice. beggas cant be choosas

Edited March 28 by RayRayRaven

[Deflated Football]

4 hours ago, January J said:

I think peanut is going to be the next udfa to step up and  ball out at the ILB position this season.

Rumors heating up about potential Boldin reunion.

 

Well we shouldn't have even let him go in the first place. Stupid decision by the front office. If I was Anquan I would say bye Felicia to the Ravens and sign with the Titans. 

[Deflated Football]

Is there any kind of possibility of us trading for Sherman?

[rossihunter2]

47 minutes ago, RayRayRaven said:

well he nevah shuld of left. to bring him back wuld be serreous crow eatin and those egos might not have that in em so we hav to see but wiff joes trait for comfort with a ball catcha hes the gu y

all for Gordon and tossin some dice. beggas cant be choosas

You've made me realise just how much research goes into effective trolling

[rossihunter2]

16 minutes ago, Deflated Football said:

Is there any kind of possibility of us trading for Sherman?

I hope not

[RayRayRaven]

i forgot more bout raven football than bout anyones cept oz but if ur lookin for one that knows football its me. bo did not know footabll. gms doan  bring walked playas back but oz has forgot so much he mighta forgot he let boldin walk so maybe we get him if we luck  out

[rossihunter2]

Just now, RayRayRaven said:

i forgot more bout raven football than bout anyones cept oz but if ur lookin for one that knows football its me. bo did not know footabll. gms doan  bring walked playas back but oz has forgot so much he mighta forgot he let boldin walk so maybe we get him if we luck  out

You've forgotten even more about words than football which, by your own admission, is a lot

[RayRayRaven]

5 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

You've forgotten even more about words than football which, by your own admission, is a lot

yah it is the other part of that sayin that was left unsayed is da importent part thou

[Deflated Football]

3 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

I hope not

Why is that? 

[rmcjacket23]

16 hours ago, January J said:

I think peanut is going to be the next udfa to step up and  ball out at the ILB position this season.

Rumors heating up about potential Boldin reunion.

 

Are the rumors really heating up? Or is this just because John said he wouldn't mind having him back?

I'm not wasting my time talking about Boldin. It'll be another 2-3 months before he even thinks about signing with ANY team.

[trevorsteadman]

I would still push for Josh Gordon. As much as I want Boldin back he is older and getting up there. I think he will turn it around and surprise people. His suspensions are easily fixable. 

[jazz1988]

13 hours ago, Deflated Football said:

Well we shouldn't have even let him go in the first place. Stupid decision by the front office. If I was Anquan I would say bye Felicia to the Ravens and sign with the Titans. 

Boldin production for most part was pretty average for a guy that was suppose to be The Ravens number one  receiver and even though he was more skilled as a receiver Torrey Smith was the one defenders were afraid of the most.  Boldin did his thing in the playoffs and the  super bowl but letting him go wouldn't have look as dumb as some Ravens seem to  believe if Tandon Doss stepped up and  if Dennis Pitta hip never got injured in training camp. I don't think The Ravens miss Boldin nearly as much if those two things happen especially with the situation with Pitta but Boldin still got replaced any way when The Ravens signed Steve Smith Sr.

[trevorsteadman]

8 minutes ago, jazz1988 said:

Boldin production for most part was pretty average for a guy that was suppose to be The Ravens number one  receiver and even though he was more skilled as a receiver Torrey Smith was the one defenders were afraid of the most.  Boldin did his thing in the playoffs and the  super bowl but letting him go wouldn't have look as dumb as some Ravens seem to  believe if Tandon Doss stepped up and  if Dennis Pitta hip never got injured in training camp. I don't think The Ravens miss Boldin nearly as much if those two things happen especially with the situation with Pitta but Boldin still got replaced any way when The Ravens signed Steve Smith Sr.

To add to this, one year later when they signed Steve Smith Sr. they got him for half the cost that Boldin wanted and got more production by far when healthy. It is insane to think he was on pace to break 1500 yards with a missing game and playing through injuries in 2015 at the age of 35. He started getting back to where he left off last year near the end of the season. It is a shame that he called it a career, he can still play.

But yes it reminds me of everyone believing Tandon Doss could replace Anquan Boldin, and at one time I started believing he had the skillset to. But he way underperformed. Fact is it was smart to move on from Boldin at the time.

[Purple_City39]

49 minutes ago, jazz1988 said:

Boldin production for most part was pretty average for a guy that was suppose to be The Ravens number one  receiver and even though he was more skilled as a receiver Torrey Smith was the one defenders were afraid of the most.  Boldin did his thing in the playoffs and the  super bowl but letting him go wouldn't have look as dumb as some Ravens seem to  believe if Tandon Doss stepped up and  if Dennis Pitta hip never got injured in training camp. I don't think The Ravens miss Boldin nearly as much if those two things happen especially with the situation with Pitta but Boldin still got replaced any way when The Ravens signed Steve Smith Sr.

I've said this same thing before.  The 2013 plan, similar to 2017 actually, was to have your two speed guys on the outside (Torrey and Jacoby) and have your chain mover in the slot.  Pitta was set to pick up that slack for Anquan with Rice still doing his thing with checkdowns.  Realistically, that wasn't a bad set up.  They also hoped backups like Deonte Thompson and Tandon Doss would take their play to the next level.

Then Pitta dislocated his hip in camp, Jacoby went down in week 1, Thompson had either an illness or a foot injury (I forget) Rice regressed, and Doss never stepped up.  End result, Ravens fans blaming everything on trading Boldin and ignoring the many factors that actually happened.

Also, SSS was a far better WR for the Ravens than Boldin and would have likely never came in 2014 if Anquan wasn't traded (and all those issues happening) in 2013.

[jazz1988]

34 minutes ago, Purple_City39 said:

I've said this same thing before.  The 2013 plan, similar to 2017 actually, was to have your two speed guys on the outside (Torrey and Jacoby) and have your chain mover in the slot.  Pitta was set to pick up that slack for Anquan with Rice still doing his thing with checkdowns.  Realistically, that wasn't a bad set up.  They also hoped backups like Deonte Thompson and Tandon Doss would take their play to the next level.

Then Pitta dislocated his hip in camp, Jacoby went down in week 1, Thompson had either an illness or a foot injury (I forget) Rice regressed, and Doss never stepped up.  End result, Ravens fans blaming everything on trading Boldin and ignoring the many factors that actually happened.

Also, SSS was a far better WR for the Ravens than Boldin and would have likely never came in 2014 if Anquan wasn't traded (and all those issues happening) in 2013.

 

I think also if the run game was good that year it would have helped out Thompson and Doss.

[trevorsteadman]

1 minute ago, jazz1988 said:

 

I think also if the run game was good that year it would have helped out Thompson and Doss.

Yep so many injuries on the o-line... The team also had an undrafted rookie named Hurst at LT after o-line injuries.

[Purple_City39]

38 minutes ago, jazz1988 said:

 

I think also if the run game was good that year it would have helped out Thompson and Doss.

 

36 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

Yep so many injuries on the o-line... The team also had an undrafted rookie named Hurst at LT after o-line injuries.

 Yes to both.  In addition to the WR injuries, Pitta injury, and WRs that didn't step up, we also saw o-line injuries, a horrible blocking scheme that caused a poor run game, and some regression at RB.  So much happened to that offense that I always shake my head when someone immediately blames the poor offense on trading away Boldin.

 

[January J]

On 3/29/2017 at 8:28 AM, rmcjacket23 said:

Are the rumors really heating up? Or is this just because John said he wouldn't mind having him back?

I'm not wasting my time talking about Boldin. It'll be another 2-3 months before he even thinks about signing with ANY team.

Thats on you. But besides the fact that it makes perfect sense this is the FA thread and that's what he is. The board probably won't be around by that time if we did decide to bring him back so I am going to discuss it now.

Edited April 2 by January J

[rmcjacket23]

Just now, January J said:

Thats on you. But besides the fact that it makes perfect sense this is the FA thread and that's what he is. The board probably won't be around by that time if did decide to bring him back so I am going to discuss it now.

Well its certainly debatable whether it makes perfect sense or not. It makes very little sense if you recognize that the same problem will exist this time next year if we take that approach.

[January J]

13 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Well its certainly debatable whether it makes perfect sense or not. It makes very little sense if you recognize that the same problem will exist this time next year if we take that approach.

Its a 1 or 2 year stop gap for likely a very cheap price and doesn't mean we can't draft a receiver ontop of that. ( which we will) ..we usually have 6-7 receivers on the roster. Right now we have 3. 4 if you want to include Campanaro which I'm sure many won't. He's the exact type of big bodied chain mover/ possession receiver Joe needs. We tend to struggle in the redzone which is where he excels. Had more TDs last year than our top 2 guys combined. Not to mention he already has a rapport with Joe- and he replaces that feisty vet leadership void left by steve. So there are certainly plenty of reasons why it makes ALOT of sense. Won't hurt anything to bring him in- he's not going to demand much money at all.  He'd be a #4 or #3 receiver at best. A corps of these guys doesn't really stand out - but would actually be pretty solid.

1) Wallace

2) Perriman

3) Draftee? ( Williams, Davis, Kupp)

4) Boldin

5) Campanaro

6) Moore

7) UDFA / Waller? 

 

Edited April 2 by January J

[rmcjacket23]

5 hours ago, January J said:

Its a 1 or 2 year stop gap for likely a very cheap price and doesn't mean we can't draft a receiver ontop of that. ( which we will) ..we usually have 6-7 receivers on the roster. Right now we have 3. 4 if you want to include Campanaro which I'm sure many won't. He's the exact type of big bodied chain mover/ possession receiver Joe needs. We tend to struggle in the redzone which is where he excels. Had more TDs last year than our top 2 guys combined. Not to mention he already has a rapport with Joe- and he replaces that feisty vet leadership void left by steve. So there are certainly plenty of reasons why it makes ALOT of sense. Won't hurt anything to bring him in- he's not going to demand much money at all.  He'd be a #4 or #3 receiver at best. A corps of these guys doesn't really stand out - but would actually be pretty solid.

1) Wallace

2) Perriman

3) Draftee? ( Williams, Davis, Kupp)

4) Boldin

5) Campanaro

6) Moore

7) UDFA / Waller? 

 

If you're bringing in Boldin, then that 1-2 year stopgap means that the guy you drafted isn't playing much for a year or two, or if at all.

Also think its naive to think Boldin is just going to be the #4. He was 2nd in targets on the Lions last year, and they have a lot more talented pass catchers on their roster than we did or do currently. I also don't really care so much about his TD numbers from last season, since they are unsustainable and show great inconsistencies throughout his career.

Plus, the obvious elephant in the room is why in the world he would want to come here to play. Detroit is very much in a better position to win now, and he could easily resign with them if he wanted to... among other teams.

If we're going to draft a possession receiver, the time to put him on the field is now. We risk practically nothing by doing so.

[January J]

17 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

If you're bringing in Boldin, then that 1-2 year stopgap means that the guy you drafted isn't playing much for a year or two, or if at all.

Also think its naive to think Boldin is just going to be the #4. He was 2nd in targets on the Lions last year, and they have a lot more talented pass catchers on their roster than we did or do currently. I also don't really care so much about his TD numbers from last season, since they are unsustainable and show great inconsistencies throughout his career.

Plus, the obvious elephant in the room is why in the world he would want to come here to play. Detroit is very much in a better position to win now, and he could easily resign with them if he wanted to... among other teams.

If we're going to draft a possession receiver, the time to put him on the field is now. We risk practically nothing by doing so.

I beg to differ on Detroit being in a better position to win now. We were literally a few plays away from winning the north and we aren't going to miss the playoffs 3 years in a row. And once we get in we tend to play very well- Detroit doesn't- if they even make it. You've got the packers- the vikings- and also the bears who are trending up. If we draft a possession receiver he can still get just as much playing time with or without Boldin- thats up to the coach. Esp if we take a guy like Williams in the first. And either way we are pretty much definitely going to get a veteran receiver regardless ANYWAY right? - or else Wallace is our only real vet. Why not make it somebody who is familiar with Joe and will come super cheap? I just dont see us rolling into the season with a corps of wallace, perriman, and a draftee along with moore. If we do IMO thats asking for trouble. I understand your views on tds and i somewhat agree but Boldin has proved to be strong in the redzone- an area we have severely struggled with. And your right he very well may not wanna come here anyway- but he wants to play closer to his home in Florida- and if he doesn't get any offers from some of the teams down there well Baltimore is atleast a little closer lol.

Edited April 3 by January J

[PurpleHorseman]

On 3/29/2017 at 9:54 AM, jazz1988 said:

Boldin production for most part was pretty average for a guy that was suppose to be The Ravens number one  receiver and even though he was more skilled as a receiver Torrey Smith was the one defenders were afraid of the most.  Boldin did his thing in the playoffs and the  super bowl but letting him go wouldn't have look as dumb as some Ravens seem to  believe if Tandon Doss stepped up and  if Dennis Pitta hip never got injured in training camp. I don't think The Ravens miss Boldin nearly as much if those two things happen especially with the situation with Pitta but Boldin still got replaced any way when The Ravens signed Steve Smith Sr.

Boldin picked it up when new coordinator came in. And for all the talk about more productive WRs. Boldin was the only WR that was money in playoffs.

[Tank 92]

6 minutes ago, PurpleHorseman said:

Boldin picked it up when new coordinator came in. And for all the talk about more productive WRs. Boldin was the only WR that was money in playoffs.

Q played much of 2011 with a torn meniscus which he got fixed towards the end of the regular season. He came back for the playoffs a "new man".

[Rav'n Maniac]

I doubt that Boldin would actually come back. I read he was recently asked about coming back here and his only reply was " Is Harbaugh still the coach there? "