Candidates to be the next OC

[Ravensfan23]

6 minutes ago, darklight1216 said:

I don't keep up with Atlanta these days so this is an honest question: did they also have a baffling tendancy to aim short of the sticks on every single third down pass?

That would be uncanny.

From a gameplay standpoint I don't follow them as much either. I just have a good friend who's a Falcons fan and our conversations about the Falcons last year are very similar to what this fan base has be through this year. Other than having the freakish Juilo, the offense wasn't producing enough big plays, the pass to the RB was too big apart of the offense, there seemed to be a disconnect. They had a talent young 1-2 punch at RB but didn't seem to have a desire to establish the run as much and wasn't scoring as much. 

I think more of those passes short of the sticks have more to do with Flacco and the players than the actual play call. Flares and Screens to the RBs are called a lot and I have seen some WR screens where it's only a 1 man route with everyone else blocking. But for the most part I think on 3rd downs Flacco gets rid of the ball quickly in a lot of cases and sometimes it's too quick. 

 

[reed20]

I'd like to also point out Mike Munchak off of Pittsburghs coaching staff might deserve consideration

[rmcjacket23]

21 hours ago, Cawtious said:

Unless they want him to develop into a startee

Not sure that matters either. Plenty of starting offensive lineman are versatile.

[BmoreRavens732]

Would love to have norv turner as OC, but I think Marty stays to have a year under his own offense or at least more of his touch. Also I believe they want continuity and I have to agree there.

[bravensfan52]

Mike McCoy 

[GrimCoconut]

I like McCoy or Turner

[balfan23]

1 hour ago, BmoreRavens732 said:

Would love to have norv turner as OC, but I think Marty stays to have a year under his own offense or at least more of his touch. Also I believe they want continuity and I have to agree there.

I know most people are clamoring for something new, but I have a feeling this is going to be the approach. The revolving door at OC is a problem and I do think they are going to want to see what Marty can do given the reigns from camp through a season.  

[BmoreBird22]

1 hour ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Not sure that matters either. Plenty of starting offensive lineman are versatile.

Yanda can probably play every single position.

[Rav'n Maniac]

51 minutes ago, balfan23 said:

I know most people are clamoring for something new, but I have a feeling this is going to be the approach. The revolving door at OC is a problem and I do think they are going to want to see what Marty can do given the reigns from camp through a season.  

I agree that it is a problem. I'm hoping to see them build a beast of an offense with downright nasty and unstoppable play calling. We need a sound minded, gifted and accountable OC to accomplish this and I'm just not sure Marty is the answer. We know that we need to strengthen the center of the line and that we need to keep drafting WR's  until we find the right group that can do damage consistently. The question then becomes is Marty a strong enough personality to develop these players and take full advantage of that along with correcting the occasional issues Flacco always seems to have. Imo, I haven't seen anything that says Marty is "that" guy.

 

Edited December 28, 2016 by Rav'n Maniac

[JoeyFlex5]

I'm not sure the ravens keep Marty for the sake of continuity. There was such a disconnect between him and the players, and some obvious tension between them as well. 

It seems obvious to me that Joe doesn't buy into his philosophy and neither does most of the offense. I've never in all my years as a ravens fan seen so much speaking out against the play calling, even if it was done subtly, it was still done in the wide open media and by multiple players. That is unprecedented in the harbaugh era.

[PurpleCity5]

2 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I'm not sure the ravens keep Marty for the sake of continuity. There was such a disconnect between him and the players, and some obvious tension between them as well. 

It seems obvious to me that Joe doesn't buy into his philosophy and neither does most of the offense. I've never in all my years as a ravens fan seen so much speaking out against the play calling, even if it was done subtly, it was still done in the wide open media and by multiple players. That is unprecedented in the harbaugh era.

Continuity doesn't matter to me if the offense under preforms like this two years in a row. Marty deserves some pass for taking the reigns so late, but he's had his fair share of mistakes. As you said, the players and him just don't seem to be on the same page so I don't see why you continue that. 

Would like to have Mike McCoy here. Yeah, he might be a HC soon but I can't think of much guys who are better, especially in a win-now scenario. 

I think the team just needs a new system and offense. Maybe Kubiak is the only guy who can really run this offense. 

Edited December 28, 2016 by PurpleCity5

[jdynamite]

On 11/23/2016 at 0:26 AM, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

When the "QB whisperer" abandons the run completely and makes terrible calls sorry, it's not on Flacco. 

Just spout your usual nonsensical Flacco hating as per normal.

 

Btw. Flacco was pretty good under Kubiak too. "But Kubiak makes all QBs look good". Not true. Trevor Seimian looks meh right now, and so did Osiwiliier. So stop it. 

 

Smh

Honestly kubiak is know for making RBs look good, QBs play off the run game in his system.   Considering Denver had 0 running backs, and seimian was a 1st year starter they got decent production out of him.  Denver doesn't even have a good oline.. went overlooked mostly while Manning was there because Peyton got the ball out of his hand in under 3 seconds ( just like in Indy ) which eliminated a number of pressures and sacks himself. 

 

I do agree Trestman abandon the run too often

[Cawtious]

3 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Yanda can probably play every single position.

to the same level.....I don't think so. 

Few lineman have the same effectiveness from opposing sides of the line.  Anyway.....It's obvious the Ravens don't see Jensen as a starter.  I think he could be if they get him off the carousel. 

[JoeyFlex5]

Honestly id like to see a fresh set of eyes at oc. A guy who hasn't been an OC in the NFL before using the same recycled system that everyone has tons of film on. I wouldn't mind seeing hammock or engram get bumped up. We made pags a first time dc(i believe so, could be wrong) and it worked incredibly. Why not try it on offense, everyone out there right now is either meh or would be gone in a year which is the last thing we need 

[jdynamite]

I've always said : 

Pep Hamilton would be a nice OC although he didn't do much in Indy, and now he's in Cleveland but I think he could do some things. 

Pete Carmichael is interesting all these years coaching under Sean Payton I figure he has to know a few things about a fluid offense. I'm surprised Payton has produced any branches from coaching tree yet..  

Daryl Drake -WRs coach for Arizona Cardinals , he's a top position coach in the league something fresh and different as a potential Coordinaror ( read about him in a Peter King article )

Norv Turner I'm not sure how much Norv has left in the tank, but he didn't have much to work with in Minnesota and I've always dreamed of him being our OC. 

 

Mike McCoy would make sense since Harbaugh likes to hire ex-HC to his staff.. 

 

 

[ratedr]

Norv Norv NORV! That's a man who knows how to go downfield. I've wanted him for YEARS.

[BmoreBird22]

2 hours ago, Cawtious said:

to the same level.....I don't think so. 

Few lineman have the same effectiveness from opposing sides of the line.  Anyway.....It's obvious the Ravens don't see Jensen as a starter.  I think he could be if they get him off the carousel. 

With a bum shoulder, there's little dropoff from RG to LG and he plays RT at almost as high a level as RG.

[Tank 92]

39 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

With a bum shoulder, there's little dropoff from RG to LG and he plays RT at almost as high a level as RG.

No question. Yanda Bear is that talented. I dread the day he is gone.

[Rav'n Maniac]

Here might be a candidate nobody was thinking about.

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/12/31/gary-kubiak-does-nothing-to-quell-rumors-of-possible-resignation/

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

18 minutes ago, Rav'n Maniac said:

Here might be a candidate nobody was thinking about.

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/12/31/gary-kubiak-does-nothing-to-quell-rumors-of-possible-resignation/

While I'd love it. I don't think it happens. Though he'd likely come back here if he were to resign and not retire. 

[ellicottraven]

1 hour ago, Rav'n Maniac said:

Here might be a candidate nobody was thinking about.

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/12/31/gary-kubiak-does-nothing-to-quell-rumors-of-possible-resignation/

Well if he's resigning for health reasons and frustration with the locker room, I think Baltimore is a place where he could excel without too much pressure and have fun. He loved it here and made no bones about it either. So, if he does decide to leave the Broncos, the Ravens OC would be an ideal fit.

[allblackraven]

24 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:

Well if he's resigning for health reasons and frustration with the locker room, I think Baltimore is a place where he could excel without too much pressure and have fun. He loved it here and made no bones about it either. So, if he does decide to leave the Broncos, the Ravens OC would be an ideal fit.

You mean "to finish what we started here"?

I'm still holding a grudge.

[Deflated Football]

1 hour ago, ellicottraven said:

Well if he's resigning for health reasons and frustration with the locker room, I think Baltimore is a place where he could excel without too much pressure and have fun. He loved it here and made no bones about it either. So, if he does decide to leave the Broncos, the Ravens OC would be an ideal fit.

Sounds like a dream come true. He did what we wanted to accomplish with his dream job, so take it easier now and return to being a coordinator. I will welcome him back in a heartbeat. 

[Cillmatic]

Everyone saying Mike McCoy must not know who he is. This man is EXTREMELY conservative.

[JO_75]

Let's make it official... Marty is likely to be fired after Sunday and we will be bringing in a new OC for 2017.

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/352461/ravens-oc-marty-mornhinweg-likely-to-be-fired?ls=roto:BAL:topheadlines

[jazz1988]

On 12/28/2016 at 3:44 PM, ratedr said:

Norv Norv NORV! That's a man who knows how to go downfield. I've wanted him for YEARS.

  I think The Ravens should go forward not backwards.Hiring Norv to be  their offensive coordinator is like hiring Cam Cameron especially since the run the same offensive system

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Edited December 31, 2016 by jazz1988

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

9 minutes ago, jazz1988 said:

  I think The Ravens should go forward not backwards.Hiring Norv to be  their offensive coordinator is like hiring Cam Cameron especially since the run the same offensive system

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I think the game has passed Norv by. No thanks 

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

2 hours ago, allblackraven said:

You mean "to finish what we started here"?

I'm still holding a grudge.

Who cares? I mean seriously, the man took his dream job and was employed by one of his best friends in Elway for a significant pay raise. Of course he was gonna take it. I'm sad he left but he would have been foolish not to take the offer. What I think is happening is that he knows being a HC is taking a toll on his health. I honestly don't think he resigns but if he does, he won't retire and he will come back here. 

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Okay mods. I'm sorry, but if Gary resigns I'm gonna have to play this.

[Deflated Football]

1 hour ago, JO_75 said:

Let's make it official... Marty is likely to be fired after Sunday and we will be bringing in a new OC for 2017.

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/352461/ravens-oc-marty-mornhinweg-likely-to-be-fired?ls=roto:BAL:topheadlines

Excellent. Please bring back Gary!