"Think Before You Speak" - Ray Apologizes to Flacco

[Militant X 1]

 

Ray apologizes to Flacco.  Good for him!

 

Edited November 21, 2016 by Militant X 1

[Gail gilliam]

 It took a man to say with Ray Lewis said in his apology to Flacco sometimes  in sports you say things you shouldn't but he apologized and I take my hat off to him .

[usmccharles]

Needed a thread for this....really?

[K-Dog]

Good for Ray.  It is not often he puts his foot in his mouth.  He handled it like he should have.  Good for him.

 

...and there is harmony in Ravenland once again.

[ALPHA]

He didnt have to apologize for his opinions but I guess he felt it was too harsh. He was right though about energy, Flaccos cool demeanor might be able to accomodate more personalities but when things get serious and theyre seeking leadership what they really want is someone to lift their energy, only SS is doing that.

I prefer Rays style of leadership any day of the week, theres something to be said for being genuine with your stream of consciousness and not being PC all the time.

[BmoreBird22]

I will say, I only read an article and didn't watch the video, but he seemed to make this about himself, again.

The one comment that stood out was that he said Joe didn't carry him to the Super Bowl? Ray was atrocious in his final season.

Either way, glad he apologized and semi said he made a mistake in saying it.

[AsianRice]

4 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I will say, I only read an article and didn't watch the video, but he seemed to make this about himself, again.

The one comment that stood out was that he said Joe didn't carry him to the Super Bowl? Ray was atrocious in his final season.

Either way, glad he apologized and semi said he made a mistake in saying it.

At the end of the day, it's a team sport although some are shining more than others during the game; however, if he doesn't have support from his teammates, nobody will succeed. 

 

Ray was atrocious in SB and Veron Davis was burning him every time ball thrown to him.  Sometimes it's too much pride to admit you are hurt and old in the game of which I understand.....I wouldn't blame him for that...Additionally, Ray did contributing his leadership and spiritual encouragement during our SB run so that counts.....

[January J]

22 hours ago, usmccharles said:

Needed a thread for this....really?

Sure why not? 

39 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I will say, I only read an article and didn't watch the video, but he seemed to make this about himself, again.

The one comment that stood out was that he said Joe didn't carry him to the Super Bowl? Ray was atrocious in his final season.

Either way, glad he apologized and semi said he made a mistake in saying it.

I thought that at first when I just read the article but once you actually watch the video it didn't come off that way and sounded very sincere. Glad he did this- although it should've never came to this. If he's truly a raven for life he shouldve known this could've been a distraction. Anyway atleast he tried to correct his mistake- more than most ppl would do so I respect that.

[FlocksGottaFeed]

Let's not get this wrong and open to apology later.

Ray Lewis has one of the highest football IQ's that the game has ever seen. That fact alone makes him a "Thinking Man" without question. Any comment that he's made related to football is his thought at the time. Even if you may or may not agree with his 'thoughts' ( As someone who knows this team; and particularly in this case - Joe personally, more than almost everyone of the planet) his rights to expresses what he feels and thinks is beyond reproach.

This said, his apology was a new after-thought. It was a very well thought-out after thought that was to address and/or heel any misinterpretation (there were plenty of them out there and in here) or ill feelings resulting from his original thought. As I've stated before: Ray has extroverted passion - Joe has introverted passion. No one has their level of success in the NFL without passion. Ray see's that now in Joe and I believe Joe may even understand his kind of passion a little better as well.

All of this takes 'Thought'. When they're true Ravens for Life - it's all going to workout in the end (no need to take sides). 

[ravensdfan]

On 11/21/2016 at 1:08 PM, usmccharles said:

Needed a thread for this....really?

We had a thread for when he said what he said so guess the apology should get one too.

On 11/22/2016 at 11:13 AM, AsianRice said:

At the end of the day, it's a team sport although some are shining more than others during the game; however, if he doesn't have support from his teammates, nobody will succeed. 

 

Ray was atrocious in SB and Veron Davis was burning him every time ball thrown to him.  Sometimes it's too much pride to admit you are hurt and old in the game of which I understand.....I wouldn't blame him for that...Additionally, Ray did contributing his leadership and spiritual encouragement during our SB run so that counts.....

Well said. Joe played lights out, Ray did not but no doubt in my mind that the goal line stand does not happen without Ray & Ed's leadership and just flat out football IQs.

[Willbacker]

Well its great that Ray apologized and all but I'm still hoping he stung Joe a little bit. Stuck a little fire under his tail.

[pitchblack_20]

Joe doesn't really lack passion for the game, you just don't see it until the playoffs. 

[Dfence4champs2052]

Excellent job on Ray's part. It was very sincere and I like that he took the time to apologize to Joe. 

[Ravensfan23]

On 11/22/2016 at 5:19 AM, ALPHA said:

He didnt have to apologize for his opinions but I guess he felt it was too harsh. He was right though about energy, Flaccos cool demeanor might be able to accomodate more personalities but when things get serious and theyre seeking leadership what they really want is someone to lift their energy, only SS is doing that.

I prefer Rays style of leadership any day of the week, theres something to be said for being genuine with your stream of consciousness and not being PC all the time.

Says who exactly? There hasn't been one single player active or former other than Ray Lewis who has spoke out against Flacco's cool demeanor or lack of vocal leadership and even the great Ray Lewis got ripped to shreds for doing so. When you look around the league at different QBs who come under fire the way Ray put Joe under fire, it usually sets off a bomb of criticism from unnamed sources inside the team and former players. That didn't happen with Joe. No one single player backed the great Ray Lewis up and who could be more credible than him when it comes to the Ravens? Ray said there is a difference between being a teammate and being a friend, however even when players leave here they have nothing but great things to say about Flacco. I can't count the number of players I've seen praise Flacco for his calm demeanor when "things get serious".

Here's what SSS said his first year playing with Flacco.

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“I’ve always worked well in chaos, but as I’ve continued playing, I prefer feeling calm. For that reason, it’s so refreshing to have a quarterback that makes the huddle so calm. It’s so much easier to concentrate and do our job.”

 I have no issue with a rah rah leader. I loved seeing Ray come out of that tunnel and the way he would tell the team to get on his back. It even got me amped to watch the game and at the risk of losing cool points I almost shed a tear when we came out for the final game at M&T Bank. However I don't think guys prefer that. If they have that type of leader, than great but to say they are looking for someone to bring "energy" isn't everything. Football is a macho sport and because of it emotions can get high more often than not. But in terms of leadership when things get stressful, guys respond to different forms of leadership. As a business owner responsible for leading a lot of different people with different personalities, I find that when things get stressful and you're up against deadlines more people respond better to a calming presences of a leader than a in your face type of guy. However with so much testosterone pumping during a NFL game, it's not surprise that guys respond well to rah rah.

 

[Tank 92]

Man I loved Ray Lewis as a player, but this act is old and stale.  The only reason he did this was to again talk about himself. 

 

 

[flynismo]

On 11/24/2016 at 11:19 AM, Tank 92 said:

Man I loved Ray Lewis as a player, but this act is old and stale.  The only reason he did this was to again talk about himself. 

It's sad when this is the first thing that comes to mind, and I'd be lying if I said it didn't cross mine as well. 

Regardless, he did the right thing and owned up to that nonsense. Ray needs to understand his name will always mean something special in Baltimore. I hope to god he doesn't let his mouth ruin that...treat the fans and players who played such a huge role in his success with the same respect those people give him.

No doubt he still has a lot of love for the place that helped him become who he is, and I am sure he is as frustrated -- probably moreso --  as any Ravens fan is over our struggles this year, but he rarely speaks positively of this team, and that gets really old. Considering who he is, that can be taken many different ways...

Edited November 26, 2016 by flynismo

[Militant X 1]

18 hours ago, flynismo said:

It's sad when this is the first thing that comes to mind, and I'd be lying if I said it didn't cross mine as well. 

Regardless, he did the right thing and owned up to that nonsense. Ray needs to understand his name will always mean something special in Baltimore. I hope to god he doesn't let his mouth ruin that...treat the fans and players who played such a huge role in his success with the same respect those people give him.

No doubt he still has a lot of love for the place that helped him become who he is, and I am sure he is as frustrated -- probably moreso --  as any Ravens fan is over our struggles this year, but he rarely speaks positively of this team, and that gets really old. Considering who he is, that can be taken many different ways...

Great points!  

Ray has been the center-piece and "the face" of the Baltimore Ravens organization for 17 years.  He was one of the most electrifying players on the roster and he and Ed's brotherhood was a remarkable thing to see in action on the field and sidelines!  He's a future hall of famer.  His name will always be associated with the Ravens.  Hell! The man even has a statue of himself out front of the stadium.  With all of that being said; of course his ego is going to come into play at some point.  We all have one; his just shows on a bigger stage.

I for one, don't always view Ray's outbursts such as these as his always seeking to draw attention to himself like many here love to say.  Sometimes, legends such as he find it quite difficult to just fade into the background and let the young bucks have their day to shine, struggle or succeed as they did.  Michael Irvin quickly shot down the notion that the Cowboys of today are better than his Cowboys teams.  That's what I expect someone like him to say!  Ray is no different!

[Tank 92]

15 minutes ago, Militant X 1 said:

 Michael Irvin quickly shot down the notion that the Cowboys of today are better than his Cowboys teams.  That's what I expect someone like him to say!  Ray is no different!

Well, it's actually completely different.  Notice that Irvin spoke about the TEAMS.  With Ray it's always all about him.  

[FlocksGottaFeed]

21 minutes ago, Tank 92 said:

Well, it's actually completely different.  Notice that Irvin spoke about the TEAMS.  With Ray it's always all about him.  

Or is it really? "They need to lose a game or 2 to truly appreciate and feel what a loss feels like to...blah, blah..." Irvin really talks about what works for him and/or past teams. Dak and Elliot already know what it feels like to lose a game or two like every other Cowboy on their current roster. Think about it: 14-2 would surpass his 13-3 1992 franchise record setting season with Aikman. Do you really think he would be happy with that if they didn't need it to win their division?

When you love something dearly (the Ravens were life changing for Ray) your passion is eternal. Take another extroverted passionate HoFer like Ditka on the Bears and Cutler: "Bears need 'leadership' from Jay Cutler" http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/chicagoinc/ct-mike-ditka-chicago-inc-spt-0818-20160817-story.html  "I need leadership out of my quarterback. And if I can get that out of him, then I've got a chance."

This guy coached Jim McMahon who couldn't come close to half of Culter's numbers, but won championships...Ditka just really wants them to win again and reporters just stick mikes in his face because...a passionate, alpha male is reality tv on steroids to sell commercial space (Cha-ching!!!!)

I'm just saying, this is not a right or wrong conversation about Ray's motivations and/or lack of it's just the human condition. An extrovert rarely understands the motivations of an introvert. At least Joe and Ray (with apology) are trying to keep it all in prospective. It would be nice if we all did.

Ray spoke-out because (he couldn't help himself) he really wanted the team to win. Ray apologized because he really wants the team to win. Joe wasn't affected because (he couldn't help himself) he really wanted the team to win.That's what passionate extroverts and passionate introverts do when it comes to addressing each other. Simple strategy for both: If you loved him for it before - just allow him to be him now. They're both Ravens4Life. That won't change either.

 

[Tank 92]

7 minutes ago, FlocksGottaFeed said:

Or is it really? "They need to lose a game or 2 to truly appreciate and feel what a loss feels like to...blah, blah..." Irvin really talks about what works for him and/or past teams. Dak and Elliot already know what it feels like to lose a game or two like every other Cowboy on their current roster. Think about it: 14-2 would surpass his 13-3 1992 franchise record setting season with Aikman. Do you really think he would be happy with that if they didn't need it to win their division?

When you love something dearly (the Ravens were life changing for Ray) your passion is eternal. Take another extroverted passionate HoFer like Ditka on the Bears and Cutler: "Bears need 'leadership' from Jay Cutler" http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/chicagoinc/ct-mike-ditka-chicago-inc-spt-0818-20160817-story.html  "I need leadership out of my quarterback. And if I can get that out of him, then I've got a chance."

This guy coached Jim McMahon who couldn't come close to half of Culter's numbers, but won championships...Ditka just really wants them to win again and reporters just stick mikes in his face because...a passionate, alpha male is reality tv on steroids to sell commercial space (Cha-ching!!!!)

I'm just saying, this is not a right or wrong conversation about Ray's motivations and/or lack of it's just the human condition. An extrovert rarely understands the motivations of an introvert. At least Joe and Ray (with apology) are trying to keep it all in prospective. It would be nice if we all did.

Ray spoke-out because (he couldn't help himself) he really wanted the team to win. Ray apologized because he really wants the team to win. Joe wasn't affected because (he couldn't help himself) he really wanted the team to win.That's what passionate extroverts and passionate introverts do when it comes to addressing each other. Simple strategy for both: If you loved him for it before - just allow him to be him now. They're both Ravens4Life. That won't change either.

 

Nice post and I understand your point. But Ray always makes it about Ray no matter what he is talking about.  just sayin.

[BmoreBird22]

11 hours ago, Tank 92 said:

Nice post and I understand your point. But Ray always makes it about Ray no matter what he is talking about.  just sayin.

It really doesn't matter. He often points to himself when the offense isn't performing well.

Because the offense just needs a Ray Lewis pep talk to get better...

[redrum52]

On 11/22/2016 at 11:13 AM, AsianRice said:

At the end of the day, it's a team sport although some are shining more than others during the game; however, if he doesn't have support from his teammates, nobody will succeed. 

Team sport but players can contribute more than others as you've said.  Dilfer will never say he did as much as Flacco to help with their respective rings 

[Wisdom]

I appreciate Ray.  No apology necessary then or now.