The Perriman Thread

[reed20]

1 minute ago, rudywasoffsides said:

Did Perriman play today? Didn't notice him once 

Define "playing"

[Doc]

1 minute ago, rudywasoffsides said:

Did Perriman play today? Didn't notice him once 

I believe he was involved in at least 1 play....anyone?

[K-Dog]

Just now, reed20 said:

We're obviously not going to agree. I'll just quote you and others the day Perriman gets cut from this team when its become universal knowledge that he's a bum with speed.

Yeah go ahead and do that.  I will be here.

[52520Andrew]

23 minutes ago, rudywasoffsides said:

Did Perriman play today? Didn't notice him once 

I saw that he couldn't come back to the football on one of the ints if that counts for anything

[RaineV1]

The truth is that the entire offense is a bust right now. Put Perriman on a functional offense and he'd probably do a hell of a lot more than what he's doing with the Ravens right now.

[Cville-Raven]

37 minutes ago, 52520Andrew said:

I saw that he couldn't come back to the football on one of the ints if that counts for anything

That ball shouldn't have even been thrown

[Richmond_Raven]

I think Perriman would thrive in an offense like the Vikings run. I would love to have Norv Turner over here.

[Purple_ICE 81]

Not just yet. Perriman was going to be raw going into year 1 regardless if he got the full off season treatment and played a full 16 games last year. Obviously he got injured early in the off season and missed the entire year.

 

This season he got injured again and missed a ton of off season time yet again aside from a few practices and pre season reps.  He needs time to grow and develop for sure. But as we have seen this season he has big play potential with his dominant athleticism, he just needs to be more consistent, and work on his route running and catching. The problem is we need him to make plays for us NOW and he isn't producing. Maybe BP can use the bye week to get some practice in and 1 on 1 time with Flacco, because Joe needs help, if i was Joe I'd be talking to everyone this offense and try to build as much chemistry in a short time as possible and go into week 9 ready to put up some numbers to get us out of this historically terrible offensive rut.

[Desert]

IMO Perriman is a "Work in Progress" which is OK if you have play-makers around him. Asking him to step up now, He's just not ready. Will he ever be ready? I don't know, probably not.

 

Desert

Edited October 24, 2016 by Desert

[ALPHA]

It's way too early to judge Perriman but we just never seem to have any ideas when it comes to developing receivers, our best all time receivers have come from free agency and we've had multiple opportunities to bring in guys like Brandon Marshall.

[OUravensfan]

Should of kept Boldin and Torrey Smith 

[Cillmatic]

9 hours ago, Desert said:

IMO Perriman is a "Work in Progress" which is OK if you have play-makers around him. Asking him to step up now, He's just not ready. Will he ever be ready? I don't know, probably not.

 

Desert

Your first round pick shouldn't be a "work in progress" or a development player...

You say he needs playmakers around him but forget that as a first round pick HE is suppose to be the playmaker! 

[BmoreBird22]

49 minutes ago, Cillmatic said:

Your first round pick shouldn't be a "work in progress" or a development player...

You say he needs playmakers around him but forget that as a first round pick HE is suppose to be the playmaker! 

Many first round picks are taken on the premise that they have the highest potential and chances of reaching their potential in the draft. 

[VermontRaven]

9 hours ago, OUravensfan said:

Should of kept Boldin and Torrey Smith 

Uh no!  Wallace is just as good as Torrey Smith for a lot cheaper.  Steve Smith is BETTER than Boldin.  Also, give Perriman some time.  The guy has only played 7 games!  I know there are a few exceptions, but MOST receivers (even first rounders) are not polished in their first year of playing. 

[OUravensfan]

12 minutes ago, VermontRaven said:

Uh no!  Wallace is just as good as Torrey Smith for a lot cheaper.  Steve Smith is BETTER than Boldin.  Also, give Perriman some time.  The guy has only played 7 games!  I know there are a few exceptions, but MOST receivers (even first rounders) are not polished in their first year of playing. 

Little bitter sarcasm after that brutal loss. I think it's unfair to really put all the blame on Perriman so far, the entire unit is clearly dysfunctional and it hurts to watch. I really did like his 1 catch, he had a big cushion due to his speed and he caught a quick slant with his hands and picked up an easy 11 yards. But then like every game so far he disappeared for the rest of it.

[PurpleCity5]

I liked Breshad and I have high hopes for him. That said you can't rely on the guy next season as a "step up guy". What I mean is that you can't expect him to break out next year because he has not shown much this year. Not dissing him because he's missed so much time but I don't think we need to be bit by this "O well we can expect this guy to step up because he's shown bright spots" mentality that has killed us and has been part of the reason we're in the situation we're in right now. 

[rmw10]

Although I'm not writing him off like many here will do, Perriman had an awful game yesterday.  No suddenness in and out of his breaks and for that reason, he just wasn't open.  His one highlight was his 1 catch that he had dropped a few times earlier in the season, so it was nice to see him reel in something that he had been struggling with all year at least.

[PurpleCity5]

11 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Although I'm not writing him off like many here will do, Perriman had an awful game yesterday.  No suddenness in and out of his breaks and for that reason, he just wasn't open.  His one highlight was his 1 catch that he had dropped a few times earlier in the season, so it was nice to see him reel in something that he had been struggling with all year at least.

He wasn't good at all. I'm still holding hope for him because hes missed so much time. Still, he has not been lightning and I don't think you can rely on him to be a step up guy until he shows something 

[FerrariFan87]

Perriman can't shine because Joe has NO time to let those vertical routes develop... give Joe time, and I think we'll see more Perriman. At least he's playing!

[ellicottraven]

Flacco hasn't been particularly great at deep balls this season. He's had a few connections with Wallace for sure, but every one of Perriman's deep ball misses can be attributed to bad throws by Flacco. So give Perriman time to be able to make adjustments and catch balls even if badly placed.

[OUravensfan]

37 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:

Flacco hasn't been particularly great at deep balls this season. He's had a few connections with Wallace for sure, but every one of Perriman's deep ball misses can be attributed to bad throws by Flacco. So give Perriman time to be able to make adjustments and catch balls even if badly placed.

Not the one vs the Redskins that went right through his hands!  Actually think Flacco has been great with the deep ball this year, it's crossing routes and timing routes that have been bad.

Edited October 24, 2016 by OUravensfan

[GhostofGrbac]

19 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:

Flacco hasn't been particularly great at deep balls this season. He's had a few connections with Wallace for sure, but every one of Perriman's deep ball misses can be attributed to bad throws by Flacco. So give Perriman time to be able to make adjustments and catch balls even if badly placed.

The whole "Joe throws a great deep ball" thing has always been a myth. 

http://presnapreads.com/2016/03/24/the-mike-wallace-effect-deep-ball-accuracy-and-ryan-tannehill/

This article breaks down 20+ yard throws by QB's that attempted at least 250 passes in 2015. According to that site Flacco threw 35 passes over 20 yards. 15 were accurate, 24 were not. His 38.5% accuracy is only above Cousins, Fitzpatrick, Foles, Smith, Hoyer, Osweiler, and McCown.

 

[OUravensfan]

2 minutes ago, GhostofGrbac said:

The whole "Joe throws a great deep ball" thing has always been a myth. 

http://presnapreads.com/2016/03/24/the-mike-wallace-effect-deep-ball-accuracy-and-ryan-tannehill/

This article breaks down 20+ yard throws by QB's that attempted at least 250 passes in 2015. According to that site Flacco threw 35 passes over 20 yards. 15 were accurate, 24 were not. His 38.5% accuracy is only above Cousins, Fitzpatrick, Foles, Smith, Hoyer, Osweiler, and McCown.

 

Probably would be higher if he had AJ Green on the other end of it. 

[Tank 92]

sigh.....and another thread is flacconated.

[Ravens4Real]

Perriman I would say hasn't been given a fair chance but he is contributing so little that I don't know what else you can say other than a bust. He's a first rounder that is being outproduced by some undrafted guys in the league. 

Yea, of course, it's not all his fault and some of his struggles can be attributed to the ineptitude of our entire offense. But for me, he just shouldn't have been a first round pick. Yes size and speed can't be taught, but to excel in this league, where almost every defensive back is running a 4.4 40, you need things like route running and catching the ball, both he seems to severely lack. 

This just stems back to the Ravens FO severe ineptitude at being able to draft skill position players that past handful of drafts.

[terps85]

According to Mike Clay (ESPN fantasy football guy) Perriman was shadowed by Revis yesterday. The Jets obviously don't think he's a bust. 

[ellicottraven]

11 minutes ago, OUravensfan said:

Probably would be higher if he had AJ Green on the other end of it. 

But he doesn't. He still has Pitta, SSS, Aiken, Wallace and Perriman. Not too bad if you ask me.

[OUravensfan]

12 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:

But he doesn't. He still has Pitta, SSS, Aiken, Wallace and Perriman. Not too bad if you ask me.

But not the run game or pass pro Dalton has. Hill had 9 carries for over 160, we had 10 carries for 10 yards................

[usmccharles]

16 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:

But he doesn't. He still has Pitta, SSS, Aiken, Wallace and Perriman. Not too bad if you ask me.

Well he doesn't have SSr

3 minutes ago, OUravensfan said:

But not the run game or pass pro Dalton has. Hill had 9 carries for over 160, we had 10 carries for 10 yards................

I don't count two of those since they were Joe

[GhostofGrbac]

6 minutes ago, OUravensfan said:

But not the run game or pass pro Dalton has. Hill had 9 carries for over 160, we had 10 carries for 10 yards................

That Cincy O-line has a 8.2% sacked rate (22 sacks in 246 pass attempts) which is the 2nd worst % in the league. Compare that to the Ravens who have a 4.3% sacked rate (14 sacks in 308 attempts). That ranks as the 6th best %. Cincy has given up 34 QB hits compared to our 44. 

As for the running game the Bengals are only averaging 30.1 more rush yards per game, and have 1 more rushing TD than us. I do agree that Cincy has a better run game, but It's a little closer than people think.