The Perriman Thread

[JoeyFlex5]

1 hour ago, Sir Spooky said:

Which is true. The drops though can't be attributed to development. He's a wide receiver and I assume he's been play wide receiver since high school. He's supposed to catch the ball. He has to catch the easy throws and make the plays he was brought it in the make. He's a 1st round pick so there are high expectations which isn't unreasonable. Anyway he's not a bust yet because he's 6 played games into his career. 

False. Timing must be learned. Inconsistent timing leads to drops. That is all.

[January J]

He also made a few great catches that once again get overlooked. Including the one that  jump started our opening drive. Give the kid a break. He's literally 6 games in and hasn't had much training camp or barely any preseason at all. Growing pains are expected.

[usmccharles]

2 hours ago, rmw10 said:

This exactly.  I also get the frustration, but it's simply insane to think that a player's career path is determined after 6 games.

Not on here its not.  

[flynismo]

1 hour ago, Sami84 said:

3 of them havent played yet.

So? One of them has played 6 games, not stopping you from labeling them.

[GrimCoconut]

Perriman missed all of last year and missed a ton of training camp this year. He should secure the ball but he's caught the ball and he's separated so the talent and potential is certainly there. I'll admit I thought we took him earlier than I thought we should but it's unfair to call him a bust yet when he's still building up those legs and getting conditioned for football. I expect better from him but a lot of his drops were really just him not securing the catch and the cornerback making a play on the ball. I think you need to recognize this year is a learning rookie year for him and expect improvement next year and if not then we can start throwing around the "b" word. 

[RayRayRaven]

3 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

Perriman missed all of last year and missed a ton of training camp this year. He should secure the ball but he's caught the ball and he's separated so the talent and potential is certainly there. I'll admit I thought we took him earlier than I thought we should but it's unfair to call him a bust yet when he's still building up those legs and getting conditioned for football. I expect better from him but a lot of his drops were really just him not securing the catch and the cornerback making a play on the ball. I think you need to recognize this year is a learning rookie year for him and expect improvement next year and if not then we can start throwing around the "b" word. 

periman has caught less than 50 percent of his targets some dropped some off line

right now we are non playoff and its possible we will be playoff but right now periman is a bust fur sur with the possible rise with more play but bust for now

Edited October 16, 2016 by RayRayRaven

[GrimCoconut]

1 minute ago, RayRayRaven said:

periman has caught less than 50 percent of his targets some dropped some off line

right now we are non playoff and its possible we will be playoff but right now periman is a bust fur sur with the possible rise with more play but bust for now

Kinda unfair to call him a bust until proven otherwise. 

[Davesta]

Drafting a WR who got stone hands... What's the #1 trait to look for in a WR? A natural pass catcher. Great 1st round pick for sure. 

Perriman, Elam, Arthur brown, kamalei, Terrence brooks, maxx Williams, Carl Davis...

the first 3 rounds is where you find the superstars, we're only good at drafting middle round starters. 

And you wonder why we have so many holes we need to fill. 

[rmw10]

5 minutes ago, RayRayRaven said:

periman has caught less than 50 percent of his targets some dropped some off line

right now we are non playoff and its possible we will be playoff but right now periman is a bust fur sur with the possible rise with more play but bust for now

"Bust fur sur"

Again, were a whole 6 games into the guys career. 

[mmcclend]

4 minutes ago, Davesta said:

Drafting a WR who got stone hands... What's the #1 trait to look for in a WR? A natural pass catcher. Great 1st round pick for sure. 

Perriman, Elam, Arthur brown, kamalei, Terrence brooks, maxx Williams, Carl Davis...

the first 3 rounds is where you find the superstars, we're only good at drafting middle round starters. 

And you wonder why we have so many holes we need to fill. 

Yup, I've been saying this for a while. Our drafting has fallen off but according to this board, we have drafted well. I just don't see it. 

[GrimCoconut]

1 minute ago, mmcclend said:

Yup, I've been saying this for a while. Our drafting has fallen off but according to this board, we have drafted well. I just don't see it. 

Retention, contracts, and hit-or-miss second day drafting have impacted this team the most. It's all interconnected though because you can't retain every player and players taking up a huge chunk of salary that don't play have hurt this team, like Pitta, Webb, Monroe to name a few. I'd argue these are what hurt us the most because none of these players were bad but injuries have hurt each one and affected our ROI from their retention. 

4 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

"Bust fur sur"

Again, were a whole 6 games into the guys career. 

Exactly right. He's also missed an entire year and also missed a lot of training camp as he missed his entire rookie year training camp and most of this year's camp. 

6 minutes ago, Davesta said:

Drafting a WR who got stone hands... What's the #1 trait to look for in a WR? A natural pass catcher. Great 1st round pick for sure. 

Perriman, Elam, Arthur brown, kamalei, Terrence brooks, maxx Williams, Carl Davis...

the first 3 rounds is where you find the superstars, we're only good at drafting middle round starters. 

And you wonder why we have so many holes we need to fill. 

Depends on who you ask. YAC, speed, route running, hands, catching radius, height are all important qualities for a WR. Each scout seems to value a certain quality but of course you're right that you need to catch the ball to make the other stuff matter. That said, Perriman wasn't all that bad with drops as a prospect. This is a bit of an exaggeration. 

[TuckerTime9]

Reading this is laughable.

 

We knew he'd be a project when we drafted him. If we can work out the kinks we have a superstar on our hands. That deep ball he reeled in today was a thing of beauty. The more experience he gets the more of that we'll see. Give the guy a chance! He's only 6 games young!

[Davesta]

2 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

Depends on who you ask. YAC, speed, route running, hands, catching radius, height are all important qualities for a WR. Each scout seems to value a certain quality but of course you're right that you need to catch the ball to make the other stuff matter. That said, Perriman wasn't all that bad with drops as a prospect. This is a bit of an exaggeration. 

Finally using a first round pick on a WR, you would think the ability to catch would be at the top of the list. Let's call it like it is. Ozzie and the front office panicked on draft day and reached for perriman.

they wanted Marcus peters (projected to go mid 20's) but Chiefs surprised everyone by selecting him 18 overall.

Then we wanted Shane Ray, but Broncos traded up with the lions to take him 3 spots ahead of us. 

 

[Sami84]

3 minutes ago, TuckerTime9 said:

Reading this is laughable.

 

We knew he'd be a project when we drafted him. If we can work out the kinks we have a superstar on our hands. That deep ball he reeled in today was a thing of beauty. The more experience he gets the more of that we'll see. Give the guy a chance! He's only 6 games young!

 

actually that deep ball he reeled in 95% of all recievers would make. His drops and weak hands ( even a grandma could strip him) are really making me angry. I dont expect him to make plays....

[rmw10]

2 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

actually that deep ball he reeled in 95% of all recievers would make. His drops and weak hands ( even a grandma could strip him) are really making me angry. I dont expect him to make plays....

I'm sure this is an accurate figure...

[TuckerTime9]

1 minute ago, Sami84 said:

actually that deep ball he reeled in 95% of all recievers would make. His drops and weak hands ( even a grandma could strip him) are really making me angry. I dont expect him to make plays....

95% of receivers reel in a 40 yard catch in double coverage? My gosh why does everyone love to hate this kid.

[flynismo]

Just now, TuckerTime9 said:

95% of receivers reel in a 40 yard catch in double coverage? My gosh why does everyone love to hate this kid.

That's Sami logic for you

[GrimCoconut]

2 minutes ago, Davesta said:

Finally using a first round pick on a WR, you would think the ability to catch would be at the top of the list. Let's call it like it is. Ozzie and the front office panicked on draft day and reached for perriman.

they wanted Marcus peters (projected to go mid 20's) but Chiefs surprised everyone by selecting him 18 overall.

Then we wanted Shane Ray, but Broncos traded up with the lions to take him 3 spots ahead of us. 

 

I don't know. It is certainly possible that is the case, but you can at least see the big play potential to be a #1 is there for Perriman. I'll admit I have no idea if he will ever reach anything close to that potential because there are justifiable concerns on his ability to reach that level but that's part of the fun. I hope he does and I'll support him but if you think Perriman is a bust than you likely are also advocating for us to replace Ozzie. 

[RaineV1]

4 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

actually that deep ball he reeled in 95% of all recievers would make. His drops and weak hands ( even a grandma could strip him) are really making me angry. I dont expect him to make plays....

That is just insane. Very few receivers in the league could have made that catch and kept a hold of it.

[MTRavensFan]

3 minutes ago, TuckerTime9 said:

95% of receivers reel in a 40 yard catch in double coverage? My gosh why does everyone love to hate this kid.

If that's true, why haven't we had a single one?

[Moderator 3]

6 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

actually that deep ball he reeled in 95% of all recievers would make. His drops and weak hands ( even a grandma could strip him) are really making me angry. I dont expect him to make plays....

Well that explains why you think he's a bust.  LOL!

[flynismo]

2 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

I don't know. It is certainly possible that is the case, but you can at least see the big play potential to be a #1 is there for Perriman. I'll admit I have no idea if he will ever reach anything close to that potential because there are justifiable concerns on his ability to reach that level but that's part of the fun. I hope he does and I'll support him but if you think Perriman is a bust than you likely are also advocating for us to replace Ozzie. 

...and Harbaugh, and Flacco, and Pees. They're nothing if not predictable.

[Cville-Raven]

7 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

actually that deep ball he reeled in 95% of all recievers would make. 

lol now thats just total nonsense even coming from you

Edited October 17, 2016 by Cville-Raven

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Perriman isn't a bust. Busts don't make the kind of "WOW" plays we see on the field from him. His first two catches prove that. 

 

As many have said. It's his sixth career game with no training camp and one preseason game. He's literally the epitome of throwing someone into the fire. What we're basically doing is how I learned how to swim. Aka, my dad threw me into the pool and I have to flop around until I got it. No lessons, no nothing. Eventually I got it. Same thing will probably happen to Perriman. 

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

If you honestly expected him to light the league up with no training camp and incredibly minimal preseason experience you need to evaluate your football knowledge. That's not how the NFL works. You can pull that off in college.

 

It's good that today he got reps. He had a few good plays to. The fact that he's willing to go over the middle is a good thing.

 

Give him time.

[Cville-Raven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErltN7nuC1c

yup definitely looks like a "95% of NFL" catch..../s

He even takes a shot from the safety on the way down.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Just now, Cville-Raven said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErltN7nuC1c

yup definitely looks like a "95% of NFL" catch..../s

He even takes a shot from the safety on the way down.

Again, that's a play a #1 WR makes. 

The talent is clearly there. He just needs time to grow.

 

I don't think people understand how difficult it is to make that catch. 

[reed20]

4 hours ago, OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL said:

No. But you can call him a rookie

Except he's not a rookie.

[TuckerTime9]

Just now, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

Again, that's a play a #1 WR makes. 

The talent is clearly there. He just needs time to grow.

 

I don't think people understand how difficult it is to make that catch. 

He made it look so easy, the guy skys the limit for him. Those drops will go away with time.

[rmw10]

2 minutes ago, reed20 said:

Except he's not a rookie.

Not technically, but he's operating the same as a rookie, with even less preparation mind you.