The Perriman Thread

[reed20]

1 minute ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

It'd help if they actually targeted him eh reed20? 

 

I only caught the second half but he got open a few times. No looks whatsoever 

Why would you target a guy thats not open?

I doubt he "got open a few times"

Edited November 20, 2016 by reed20

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Just now, reed20 said:

Why would you target a guy thats not open?

He did get open lol. But all the offensive looks (with the exception of one Aiken reception) more or less went to two players.

 

if you're really calling perriman out I don't know what to say

[Tank 92]

Didn't even think about it in game.  Did he play?  lol

[reed20]

1 minute ago, Tank 92 said:

Didn't even think about it in game.  Did he play?  lol

He did but might as well not have.

[chunkywill25]

Non existent today. he was supposed to be our dez

[The Raven]

Still not calling him a bust, but definitely calling him a disappointment.

He's getting showed up by a 37 year old dude coming off an Achilles injury.

I know he's young and he's been through it, and I know Smitty is an all time great, but seriously. Smitty got damn near 100 yards today at 37 off a bad injury, and Perriman was invisible. He needs to show up soon.

[redrum52]

1 hour ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

He did get open lol. But all the offensive looks (with the exception of one Aiken reception) more or less went to two players.

 

if you're really calling perriman out I don't know what to say

I didn't watch him enough this game to say anything, but I've seen others and he gets OPEN... he doesn't get looks.

[Cillmatic]

I think Perriman only played like two snaps. This is ridiculous. It's time to make him the #3. We need to know what we have.

[Deflated Football]

7 minutes ago, Cillmatic said:

I think Perriman only played like two snaps. This is ridiculous. It's time to make him the #3. We need to know what we have.

He's probably in the infamous doghouse 

[Ravens4Real]

Can't believe we expended a first round pick on this guy and he is playing so little. Something must be seriously wrong with him because it doesn't seem like there is too much in front of him preventing him from playing time.

[JoeyFlex5]

3 hours ago, reed20 said:

Why would you target a guy thats not open?

I doubt he "got open a few times"

i guess i should take your doubts as concrete fact then. 

then its solved. perriman is bust!

[JoeyFlex5]

2 hours ago, The Raven said:

Still not calling him a bust, but definitely calling him a disappointment.

He's getting showed up by a 37 year old dude coming off an Achilles injury.

I know he's young and he's been through it, and I know Smitty is an all time great, but seriously. Smitty got damn near 100 yards today at 37 off a bad injury, and Perriman was invisible. He needs to show up soon.

that 37 year old dude is a hall of famer and achieved today a milestone that very few players have achieved. is that seriously your basis of comparison?

[The Raven]

Just now, JoeyFlex5 said:

that 37 year old dude is a hall of famer and achieved today a milestone that very few players have achieved. is that seriously your basis of comparison?

He's 37 and coming off an achilles injury and has twice the production despite playing in two fewer games. Regardless of how good Steve is, it's a bad look for Breshad. He's been a disappointment. Perriman was completely absent in a game where we desperately needed somebody to show up. You can say it's a faulty comparison and that's fair, but it's kind of embarrassing for Perriman to be so absent. Why isn't he getting more targets? Steve is getting force fed the ball. It's a bad look.

[JoeyFlex5]

2 minutes ago, The Raven said:

He's 37 and coming off an achilles injury and has twice the production despite playing in two fewer games. Regardless of how good Steve is, it's a bad look for Breshad. He's been a disappointment. Perriman was completely absent in a game where we desperately needed somebody to show up. You can say it's a faulty comparison and that's fair, but it's kind of embarrassing for Perriman to be so absent. Why isn't he getting more targets? Steve is getting force fed the ball. It's a bad look.

he isnt getting more targets because the qb isnt targeting him. its really that simple. ive seen him wide open on plays where joe throws it away or dumps it off all year. 

[rmw10]

I have no idea of the snap counts, but being at the game, I didn't even see Perriman on the field much.  Aiken was the primary 3rd WR today.

[FlocksGottaFeed]

This thread title should be changed to: "Can We Call Breshad Perriman a Play Every Once and Again?"

[Edgar]

Limited snaps. Zero targets.

 

[PurpleCity5]

3 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

he isnt getting more targets because the qb isnt targeting him. its really that simple. ive seen him wide open on plays where joe throws it away or dumps it off all year. 

I've seen it as well, seriously frustrating. 

[Cillmatic]

Since the other thread is toxic I think we should have a new one.

[Cillmatic]

To start, I REALLY think that we should just make Perriman the #3 WR and see what he can do. After seeing the offensive disaster that was our last game I think it;s obvious that we need to actually TRY to use our first round pick like he's a first round pick. He can't be any worse than the nonexistent WR that is Kamar Aiken. There is virtually nothing to lose.

Edited November 22, 2016 by Cillmatic

[hn68wb4]

This thread is going to become just as toxic as the other one almost immediately, some around here refuse to even give the guy a shot. Sure, give him more snaps, I'm not against it but i don't think it'll help to make our offense work better or more smoothly because we can't establish a run game, and when we do we start getting lots of holding calls that force us to abandon them almost immediately. I feel like early on Harbaugh was sort of known for having a very disciplined team, but this year there hasn't been any discipline whatsoever, our offense struggles as it is and our makeshift oline makes it even worse with their penalties.

I like Perriman moving forward, giving him a year or two to develop I can see him becoming a real player at WR, but right now he's just not ready, the coaches are still trying to hammer out some of his inconsistencies and mental lapses.

[BmoreBird22]

He played a good amount of snaps. The times I honed in on his routes, he cleared out the safety over the top.

That doesn't show up for stats, but it's very valuable to Smith and Wallace.

[Willbacker]

With us still having a good chance for the playoffs you gotta play who is best now for the time being but Breshad will break in eventually and be one of them guys that can be a top receiver but will also drop some easy ones but a lot of top receivers do that.

[Militant X 1]

14 hours ago, The Raven said:

He's 37 and coming off an achilles injury and has twice the production despite playing in two fewer games. Regardless of how good Steve is, it's a bad look for Breshad. He's been a disappointment. Perriman was completely absent in a game where we desperately needed somebody to show up. You can say it's a faulty comparison and that's fair, but it's kind of embarrassing for Perriman to be so absent. Why isn't he getting more targets? Steve is getting force fed the ball. It's a bad look.

I agree!  I was also wondering if it was because Joe feels that Steve is the only receiver that he can really count on?

[The Raven]

1 hour ago, Militant X 1 said:

I agree!  I was also wondering if it was because Joe feels that Steve is the only receiver that he can really count on?

I absolutely think that's it. Perriman's made some sick catches but he's had a lot of stupid drops. I also wonder if he's on the same page as Joe, route-wise. There's clear chemistry between Joe and Smitty. You see something growing with Joe and Wallace. With Perriman, I thought I saw chemistry but Idk anymore.

[usmccharles]

9 minutes ago, The Raven said:

I absolutely think that's it. Perriman's made some sick catches but he's had a lot of stupid drops. I also wonder if he's on the same page as Joe, route-wise. There's clear chemistry between Joe and Smitty. You see something growing with Joe and Wallace. With Perriman, I thought I saw chemistry but Idk anymore.

Being the third WR on depth chart makes it hard for him to get consistent chemistry flowing.  Doesn't he have about 4 targets a game?  Next year I think we will see a lot more production with the loss of SSr

[Moderator 3]

3 hours ago, Cillmatic said:

Since the other thread is toxic I think we should have a new one.

We're not going to have 2 on the same subject BUT I did update the title.  

[AsianRice]

Perriman needs to play physical against the DBs cuz he's big and strong like Dez Bryant....

 

Don't know what happen if SSS plays in the body of Perriman....

 

SSS is a great receiver cuz he gets into DB's head all game long and wait for his chance to break out....

 

I think SSS is teaching Perriman how to play game as it's supposed to be but I think it's yet time for him to fully sink in...hopefully we will see that time that Perriman finally breaks out...

 

But we need to see him to break out in the next 6 games.......we need it....

[RaineV1]

Right now, I think it's that Perriman is considered the third or fourth option on a lot of plays, and Joe isn't going through the whole progression (which I can't full blame him for considering the bad pass protection at times). So, yeah, he gets open. However Flacco looks for Wallace or SSS (whoever the top option is) then looks at the underneath dump off option, and then gets rid of it

However, one positive thing I can say from that Dallas game is that Perriman seems to be a decent blocker.

[rmcjacket23]

2 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

Right now, I think it's that Perriman is considered the third or fourth option on a lot of plays, and Joe isn't going through the whole progression (which I can't full blame him for considering the bad pass protection at times). So, yeah, he gets open. However Flacco looks for Wallace or SSS (whoever the top option is) then looks at the underneath dump off option, and then gets rid of it

However, one positive thing I can say from that Dallas game is that Perriman seems to be a decent blocker.

Pretty much this. At the end of the day, he's the 4th option on this team in terms of targets for pass catchers. He's clearly behind Steve and Wallace (as he should be at this point), and we always involve TEs in the passing game, and so in this case Pitta is the 3rd option basically. 

Question for the fans... what specific kind of production to you expect the 4th option in ANY Ravens passing attack to produce? I don't even think the player matters at this point. If you're the 4th option, you don't produce in these offenses.

Look at 2013... probably the most "pass happy" offense this team has ever had. The 4th option in that passing game was probably Jacoby... he was 4th on the team in targets (behind Torrey, Marlon Brown and Rice), 4th in receptions and ended up 3rd in yardage.

His average game stat line was roughly 3 catches for 38 yards. That was a prototypical game for a 4th option in a heavy-pass offense. 

Perriman is at about 2 catches for 28 yards currently. Not that much of a difference.

If you want Perriman seeing more targets or producing better, then he's going to have to move up in the depth chart. Does anybody see a reason why he should be playing ahead of Steve or Wallace right now?