The Perriman Thread

[MTRavensFan]

knock it off with the name-calling. Sigh...We all want the same thing here.

 

[usmccharles]

1 minute ago, reed20 said:

And then if we're right and Perriman truly busts then you can call yourselves idiots.

What makes someone an idiot just because they give a player time to develop? BP could absolutely bust,  but right now he's a player still learning and if he doesn't work out then yep,  bust.   It blows my mind that some people on here seem so adamant about him not working out.  That's the perception of your statements anyways. 

[usmccharles]

Just now, MTRavensFan said:

knock it off with the name-calling. Sigh...We all want the same thing here.

 

You sure about that? It literally looks like some people want the kid to become a stud,  others seem to want him to fail just so they can be an Internet gm 

[reed20]

3 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

What makes someone an idiot just because they give a player time to develop? BP could absolutely bust,  but right now he's a player still learning and if he doesn't work out then yep,  bust.   It blows my mind that some people on here seem so adamant about him not working out.  That's the perception of your statements anyways. 

It'd look pretty idiotic to insult the intelligence of those who end up being correct about the particular debate, no? I think you can call a guy a bust whenever you want, really. It's just a bolder statement to make. You think the Raider fans that called Russell a bust before he even stepped onto the field feel foolish? No. It's more related to wisdom. The fact that they've heard this same song all before. A guy holding out for more money to start off his NFL career displays character issues to that of a bust. 

Perriman doesn't have character issues, but he does have other issues that are to that of a bust. Issues that he should not have for a guy coming out of the first round? Tell me, what is developing?  Is 50 receptions for 1044 yards and 9 touchdowns as your best college year truly that impressive to you? That's good for just 3 receptions a game! Guys like Kevin White whom was in the same draft are averaging a whopping 8! What does that tell you? BP was drafted for his speed. He's a project. He's a "well, maybe, who knows, there's nobody else left anyway" pick. He was a one trick pony in college and will at best be one here. He's a ted ginn, troy williamson, a poor torrey smith. That's not what we need.

Read his "weaknesses" write up coming out of college.

"Raw in his routes, relying on speed and athleticism over any precision. Rounds routes and is inconsistent at selling and finishing routes that don't involve him as primary target. Sits and waits on the throw rather than working back to it. Redirected in his routes more than expected for receiver his size. Disappointing hands that might always haunt him. Slow catch readiness, allowing too many throws to beat him up. Too much double catching and his focus drops over second half of the season were maddening to watch"

Boy, 8 games into the season and we have seen every bit of that write up. 
 

[Adreme]

40 minutes ago, reed20 said:

And then if we're right and Perriman truly busts then you can call yourselves idiots.

 

No you are still an idiot to use your language.  Think of it like blackjack.  Sometimes you can make the wrong decision and be right.  That does not make it correct.  Judging someone a bust after there first 8 games is clearly wrong and even if it turns out to be right that does not mean you made the right decision.  He has been doing okay this year and had a pretty good game during the time Wallace was out but with SSS and Wallace in play he just will never be the top option until at least next year.

I have seen a LOT from him to like though with his speed and ability to actually GET separation which are things Torrey never had.

Edited November 10, 2016 by Adreme

[usmccharles]

16 minutes ago, reed20 said:

It'd look pretty idiotic to insult the intelligence of those who end up being correct about the particular debate, no? I think you can call a guy a bust whenever you want, really. It's just a bolder statement to make. You think the Raider fans that called Russell a bust before he even stepped onto the field feel foolish? No. It's more related to wisdom. The fact that they've heard this same song all before. A guy holding out for more money to start off his NFL career displays character issues to that of a bust. 

Perriman doesn't have character issues, but he does have other issues that are to that of a bust. Issues that he should not have for a guy coming out of the first round? Tell me, what is developing?  Is 50 receptions for 1044 yards and 9 touchdowns as your best college year truly that impressive to you? That's good for just 3 receptions a game! Guys like Kevin White whom was in the same draft are averaging a whopping 8! What does that tell you? BP was drafted for his speed. He's a project. He's a "well, maybe, who knows, there's nobody else left anyway" pick. He was a one trick pony in college and will at best be one here. He's a ted ginn, troy williamson, a poor torrey smith. That's not what we need.

Read his "weaknesses" write up coming out of college.

"Raw in his routes, relying on speed and athleticism over any precision. Rounds routes and is inconsistent at selling and finishing routes that don't involve him as primary target. Sits and waits on the throw rather than working back to it. Redirected in his routes more than expected for receiver his size. Disappointing hands that might always haunt him. Slow catch readiness, allowing too many throws to beat him up. Too much double catching and his focus drops over second half of the season were maddening to watch"

Boy, 8 games into the season and we have seen every bit of that write up. 
 

If me giving a kid time develop makes me an idiot so be it.  You don't even act like you want him to succeed.   He's a kid who missed 2 training camps and is behind some good wrs on depth chart.   I'm not happy about his lack of production but I understand the reasons why.   And to be honest,  I don't think he ever lives up to the draft pick we used,  but I don't know... Neither do you.   It's a guess.  If your right,  cool,  your an amazing talent scout and possibly the next ravens gm.... And that makes me an idiot.  I'm more than OK with that being your perception in the matrix you live in.  

Edited November 10, 2016 by usmccharles

[reed20]

2 hours ago, Adreme said:

 

No you are still an idiot to use your language.  Think of it like blackjack.  Sometimes you can make the wrong decision and be right.  That does not make it correct.  Judging someone a bust after there first 8 games is clearly wrong and even if it turns out to be right that does not mean you made the right decision.  He has been doing okay this year and had a pretty good game during the time Wallace was out but with SSS and Wallace in play he just will never be the top option until at least next year.

I have seen a LOT from him to like though with his speed and ability to actually GET separation which are things Torrey never had.

Good game? Doing okay? He hasnt passed 50 yards in any game all year with no touchdowns! Talk about incredibly low standards.

 

And this is nothing like blackjack which is a game revolved around luck and probability. I'm actually utilizing well substantiated points towards my argument.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

3 hours ago, usmccharles said:

You sure about that? It literally looks like some people want the kid to become a stud,  others seem to want him to fail just so they can be an Internet gm 

That is actually only one member, and he's not the one you are arguing rn.

We have to wait and see with Breshad, but at the very least he is flashing. I'd be damn excited if he does anything tonight....

 

Give him time. 2014 set a ridiculously high standard. 

[usmccharles]

15 minutes ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

That is actually only one member, and he's not the one you are arguing rn.

We have to wait and see with Breshad, but at the very least he is flashing. I'd be damn excited if he does anything tonight....

 

Give him time. 2014 set a ridiculously high standard. 

I'm one of the few to give it time.  Of course I'd rather him play last year and be the next Mike Evans (stats) 

[sibelius]

How about...no?

[52liveforever]

I'd say give him more!

[Somerset Ravens]

Perriman showed up tonight.

[52520Andrew]

Perriman starting to look good. Still has some struggles with catching the easy balls but I think we all would be happy with where he is now back before the season started.

[reed20]

Good game Perriman. Im proud of you. Still skeptical and need to see this against a team thats not possibly one of the worst in NFL history though. Please score against Dallas.

[Tank 92]

Why did he have to drop that last ball?  WTH?

[AnthonyGames]

What I've seen from him in the last two games has made me really happy. He still doesn't get nearly as much playing time - as not only SSS and Wallace - but Aiken even. He seems like a play maker. In that slant route where he gained 20+ yards, he looked very fast. 

[Cillmatic]

This thread needs to get an award.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

8 hours ago, reed20 said:

And then if we're right and Perriman truly busts then you can call yourselves idiots.

No. Bc calling anyone at bust 9 games into their career is idiotic. Whether it ends up being the case or not has nothing to do with the stupidity of declaring it at this point. 

 

Btw suck on that TD. He busted that one all over your faces. 

[reed20]

27 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

No. Bc calling anyone at bust 9 games into their career is idiotic. Whether it ends up being the case or not has nothing to do with the stupidity of declaring it at this point. 

 

Btw suck on that TD. He busted that one all over your faces. 

Sure he did. How impressive to abuse the poor little browns.

I hope he pans out of course but doing it against the browns is not really much of a statement for him or anybody else on our offense tonight. Even waller scored

[RavensPunkXVX]

Who cares if it was against the Browns. We scored TDs and won by more than one score. I don't care if it was against the local neighborhoood Baltimore squirrels (the furry ones), we put points on the board.

hopefully it serves as a starting point and the offense starts to click. Hopefully! We're gonna need to put points on the board for the remainder of the schedule. I just wanna beat Cincinnati. 3-0 in the division. Just give me ONE game against Cincinnati. That's not asking much, right? Right?!

[reed20]

34 minutes ago, RavensPunkXVX said:

Who cares if it was against the Browns. We scored TDs and won by more than one score. I don't care if it was against the local neighborhoood Baltimore squirrels (the furry ones), we put points on the board.

hopefully it serves as a starting point and the offense starts to click. Hopefully! We're gonna need to put points on the board for the remainder of the schedule. I just wanna beat Cincinnati. 3-0 in the division. Just give me ONE game against Cincinnati. That's not asking much, right? Right?!

Sweeping the division is a possibility IMO. I think what we found today that could truly make a difference is the discovery of Dixon in the passing game.

[RavensPunkXVX]

2 hours ago, reed20 said:

Sweeping the division is a possibility IMO. I think what we found today that could truly make a difference is the discovery of Dixon in the passing game.

Cincinnati is the only question mark. They have been a thorn in our side, but haven't been that spectacular on offense this year. Jimmy on Green and the emergence of Tavon should be nice in that match up. I just want the offense to start clicking. It's gonna have to.

[Cillmatic]

There's a piece of this forum(1/5) that has a natural inclination for negativity and faux logic. I used to be one of them. It's time to move on.

Edited November 18, 2016 by Cillmatic

[ALPHA]

Hopefully he can stay healthy, because he has top 3 type potential.

Edited November 11, 2016 by ALPHA

[K-Dog]

41 minutes ago, Cillmatic said:

There's a piece of this forum(1/5) that have a natural inclination for negativity and faux logic. I used to be one of them. It's time to move on.

I have noticed that. I enjoy your posts now. Good to have you on the positive side.

[rmw10]

That last drop was pretty bad, but you still see the flashes every now and then and that's a positive sign.  Still think he's going to be a guy that frustrates you a couple of times a game, but he'll also have those moments like the crossing route where he turned on the burners and got 25 yards out of it.  That's the first time I've really seen that speed show up.

[Somerset Ravens]

It was good to see Perriman and Dixon perform well against the Browns. Hopefully both can build on this and become steady contributors on offense.

[FerrariFan87]

Perriman looked FAST, and (despite that one drop) his hands looked strong. That was one heck of a first TD! Great adjustment on the ball. We need to see more of this, and I think we will! 

[VermontRaven]

5 hours ago, reed20 said:

Sweeping the division is a possibility IMO. I think what we found today that could truly make a difference is the discovery of Dixon in the passing game.

Certainly a possibility but with 2 games ledt vs Concy and @ Pottsburgh on Christmas, I don't see it happening (although I would LOVE to be proved wrong). Realiatically hoping for 5-1 in division.

[Cillmatic]

Im EXTREMELY excited to see what Perriman can do when he actually gets a full offseason.