[News] The Breakdown: Eisenberg's Five Thoughts vs. Dallas Cowboys

[OUravensfan]

12 hours ago, Hardhitters said:

Ray Lewis was right about Flacco. Did you see Dak owning that offense? Did you see Joe not owning that offense???

I saw an amazing O line and a great playmaking big bodied WR. Flacco hasn't gotten time like that all year, straight fact

[OUravensfan]

11 hours ago, JamesA119 said:

Disagree with what you said about Zuttah. They showed replay of it and e wasn't holding.
The one mistake he made was the late hit. The refs definitely called a bad game. They might as well have been wearing the cowboys jerseys

The late hit was a horrible call. If that hit is late than our guy simultaneously being tackled out of bounds was also late. Terrible officiating 

[Rav'n Maniac]

OK, we lost a tough one against the #1 offense. We played a hard fought game till the end. At least it didn't come against an AFC opponent.

[sizzlingdoom]

  11 hours ago, JamesA119 said:

Disagree with what you said about Zuttah. They showed replay of it and e wasn't holding.
The one mistake he made was the late hit. The refs definitely called a bad game. They might as well have been wearing the cowboys jerseys

The late hit was a horrible call. If that hit is late than our guy simultaneously being tackled out of bounds was also late. Terrible officiating 

Not to mention Wallace was held on what likely would've been a long TD and no call turns into a punt. Garbage officiating

[sizzlingdoom]

  24 minutes ago, sizzlingdoom said:

  29 minutes ago, whobilly said:

We really don't need Five Thoughts or reasons at this point. Real simple here folks, this team just isn't good enough.

That's not true. We just need to get healthy and take care of our division foes which are as much or more of a mess than we are. If Jimmy gets healthy, and we can somehow find a way to score more than 20 a game, we will be extremely dangerous come playoff time. A lot of things to iron out though and it seems like Harbaugh and Flacco are in control of most of that

"if", "find a way"......sounds like a losing team to me.

If the AFC north was rockin like usual, I would agree. But I still see us winning the division. I know we have some serious issues right now. But I know we can still make the playoffs and do damage. My question is when we do, and we're winning and making plays in the playoffs, what will all of you haters be saying then. And I'm talking about the people saying losing season, one and done if in the playoffs, not a chance.....blah blah blah. Fans like yall make our fan base look like dog waste. Constantly gripe when we're not winning, then O yeah, Ravens all the way when we are. Spoiled weenies. We have issues. We all know that people. But we are in first and our division looks as winnable as it has in as long as I can remember.

[sizzlingdoom]

  24 minutes ago, sizzlingdoom said:

That's not true. We just need to get healthy and take care of our division foes which are as much or more of a mess than we are. If Jimmy gets healthy, and we can somehow find a way to score more than 20 a game, we will be extremely dangerous come playoff time. A lot of things to iron out though and it seems like Harbaugh and Flacco are in control of most of that

in the play offs we will be playing good teams and not the cleveland browns lol.

Weird. I was unaware of that. Thanks

[TheRavengers]

4 hours ago, Ravens8383 said:

My Five Thoughts

1. Jimmy Smith holds the DB group together.

2. Dumb penalties really hurt the Ravens in the second half.

3. Falling behind killed the run game.

4. Need someone other then Smith and Wallace to step up at WR

5. Can't put this one on Flacco.

1. It should've been obvious that Jimmy was out best corner on the team during that Giants game, when OBJ was basically nonexistent while he was on the field, and then torched us afterwards as soon as he got injured.

2. Dumb penalties kill us all the time, but the ones on Zuttah were egregiously. Then again there were some penalties the Cowboys committed that weren't called and could've helped but didn't happen.

3. They were good at running until the 2nd half. Before that I thought T. West and Dixon would skulldrag their D all game long. Also, notice how Zeke had 25 carries for the game and no one on our offense had even half of that.

4. Smith and Wallace are our only 2 real playmakers as far as WR goes, Kamar Aiken only getting a handful of catches. Perriman simply isn't there yet. Pitta makes some good catches though, in fact he's got the most receptions on the team but hasn't caught a TD.

5. Really, you can't. True, he could've done a bit more but so could everyone else. He was responsible for one of our 2 TD scores and thankfully didn't turn the ball over, but then again we didn't force any turnovers either. The no-huddle shotgun play calling is apparently what he was good at so we should've seen more of that all game, but we didn't.

[Tru11]

1 minute ago, sizzlingdoom said:

Weird. I was unaware of that. Thanks

YW

[Crusader]

Its get tiring blaming Refs and not being healthy.for the loses. Stop being stupid and committing penalties so much maybe the Refs will look at the other team players and stop picking busts, and over paying average players.

[btfan2]

These guys just don't know how to win. There truly is no leadership on this team. It was also the same predictable calls, the same mistakes, over and over.

Why not go no huddle, they didn't even try. Why did they abandon the pass rush. Why did we really stop rushing.

I watched Dallas play most of the season. Prescott is good for a rookie but; when we were hassling him he was Not so good. You hassle any QB and their performance declines. So many questions no answers.

Everybody acting like well when Jimmy Smith comes back, really. He's such a delicate little flower, he'll play half a game and be out another 2-3 weeks. To me he has never been that good. He certainly is not the Ravens last best hope.

Then there's Joe. I have been a staunch Joe supporter, it's just getting harder and harder to defend him. Joe, take control of the offense, light some fires. He didn't play badly he just didn't inspire.

They played better but; their still swimming in a sea of mediocrity.

Mr. Yanda thank You, you are a wonder.
Steve Smith, please think about maybe another year, you are joy to watch..

[sizzlingdoom]

These guys just don't know how to win. There truly is no leadership on this team. It was also the same predictable calls, the same mistakes, over and over.

Why not go no huddle, they didn't even try. Why did they abandon the pass rush. Why did we really stop rushing.

I watched Dallas play most of the season. Prescott is good for a rookie but; when we were hassling him he was Not so good. You hassle any QB and their performance declines. So many questions no answers.

Everybody acting like well when Jimmy Smith comes back, really. He's such a delicate little flower, he'll play half a game and be out another 2-3 weeks. To me he has never been that good. He certainly is not the Ravens last best hope.

Then there's Joe. I have been a staunch Joe supporter, it's just getting harder and harder to defend him. Joe, take control of the offense, light some fires. He didn't play badly he just didn't inspire.

They played better but; their still swimming in a sea of mediocrity.

Mr. Yanda thank You, you are a wonder.
Steve Smith, please think about maybe another year, you are joy to watch..

I agree with all of that. Except, Jimmy was that good before he got a couple years ago. Granted not for a long period of time though. He used to be and still is a good cover corner, but having said that he doesn't create any turnovers. The secondary and Oline should be the priority next offseason. A qb in the 3rd or 4th would be nice too. Maybe one of these years we will figure out how to draft a wr too. Kinda doubt it though. I got kicked out of a pizza place when we drafted Perriman cuz everyone though we were going to take him and I was gonna lose it if we did. I threw a full beer in utter shock and dissapointment. Another Elam pick and Arthur Brown pick....:(
And I agree about my favorite athlete of all time. Hope he plays one more. Though I would prefer for us to send him and Sizzle off into the sunset this year. That's up to Joe and Harbs though

[jdynamite]

2 hours ago, utalkingtome123 said:

I agree with points 1,2 and 3 but we did run the ball. Dallas just started clamping down on it at some point. We need a consistent o-line and some damn corners bad! CB and S should be # 1 and 2 on our draft board in my opinion.

We started off running it well, 6 carries 71 yards in first Quarter, 6 runs 15 yards in 2nd quarter  ( 86 yards in the first half ) then second half completely gave up on it only 3 carries 15 yards including a Flacco scramble and that was midway through the 3rd quarter. 

That first touchdown drive was filled with power runs behind Yanda and Stanley with Juice in for 3 of those 4 runs.  

1. 13 yd Wallace 
2. - 0 West 
3. - 4 Dixon            
4. - 20 Dixon 
5. - 16 west 
6. - 18 west 
 First quarter ends  6 carries 71 yds 
7. -  (-2)Dixon 
8. - 4 Dixon 
9. - 5 west 
10. - 0 west 
11. -  (-3 )west 
12. - 5 Dixon 
13. - 6 west 
Second Qtr ends 6 carries 15 yds
14. - 0 west 
15. - 6 Flacco 
16. - 9 Dixon ( last run of the game at 6:27 left in 3rd Quarter score 17-10 Dallas. Also the Unnecessary Roughess on Zuttah play. ) 
 3rd quarter 3 carries 15 yds rushing 

Put it in perspective Zeke only had 6 carries 26 yards in the first half and finished with 25 carries for 97 yards.  So they kept running it regardless of lack of early success and despite them having exploited our secondary completing 17 out of 18 at one point. 

[jdynamite]

6 hours ago, Ravens8383 said:

My Five Thoughts

1. Jimmy Smith holds the DB group together.

2. Dumb penalties really hurt the Ravens in the second half.

3. Falling behind killed the run game.

4. Need someone other then Smith and Wallace to step up at WR

5. Can't put this one on Flacco.

I agree with everything except number 3 falling behind killed the Run game.  In another post I outlined every run the Ravens had. In the second half the Ravens only attempt 3 total runs the last being with 6:27 left in the 3rd quarter down 17-10.  A 7 point deficit isn't enough to completely kill off a run game that began so strong, also a little more running gives the defense a break from dallas' long drives. 

Flacco played well but we still had our second half drives stall out rather quickly. Would have liked to see our offense respond immediately, similar to how when we scored 7, Dallas answered with 7. We got 3 and they answered right back. 

They were working with 2 backup starting Corners we didn't kill them the way they killed Wright. 

[Raven1995]

  2 hours ago, utalkingtome123 said:

I agree with points 1,2 and 3 but we did run the ball. Dallas just started clamping down on it at some point. We need a consistent o-line and some damn corners bad! CB and S should be # 1 and 2 on our draft board in my opinion.

We started off running it well, 6 carries 71 yards in first Quarter, 6 runs 15 yards in 2nd quarter  ( 86 yards in the first half ) then second half completely gave up on it only 3 carries 15 yards including a Flacco scramble and that was midway through the 3rd quarter. 

That first touchdown drive was filled with power runs behind Yanda and Stanley with Juice in for 3 of those 4 runs.  

1. 13 yd Wallace 
2. - 0 West 
3. - 4 Dixon            
4. - 20 Dixon 
5. - 16 west 
6. - 18 west 
 First quarter ends  6 carries 71 yds 
7. -  (-2)Dixon 
8. - 4 Dixon 
9. - 5 west 
10. - 0 west 
11. -  (-3 )west 
12. - 5 Dixon 
13. - 6 west 
Second Qtr ends 6 carries 15 yds
14. - 0 west 
15. - 6 Flacco 
16. - 9 Dixon ( last run of the game at 6:27 left in 3rd Quarter score 17-10 Dallas. Also the Unnecessary Roughess on Zuttah play. ) 
 3rd quarter 3 carries 15 yds rushing 

Put it in perspective Zeke only had 6 carries 26 yards in the first half and finished with 25 carries for 97 yards.  So they kept running it regardless of lack of early success and despite them having exploited our secondary completing 17 out of 18 at one point. 

Their was a lot of more Penalties to add in. Zuttah's Holding penalties, and Stanley's penalties put the Ravens in 1st and 20. 2nd and 25 or 3rd and long. Also, they didn't get the ball that much in the Second Half. The defense played off not to give up big plays and Dallas took short yardage at will. I wanted more running too but as Harbaugh said they were forced to throw.

[Drinkmore Beer]

The Ravens lost because of three things. 1) Prescott had all day to throw to Bryant and Witten. 2) The Ravens seem determined to commit stupid penalties at the worst times, especially on offense to kill drives. 3) Flacco has never been an accurate passer. How many wide open receivers did he miss yesterday? Even on that meaningless hail mary at the end, he lofted it out of the end zone. Prescott -- a rookie -- on the other hand, was lights out. Given Flacco's contract, there's no way to improve at QB and that means a .500 team. Oh well, the Packers, Panthers, and Bengals are stinking up the joint too, so maybe .500 isn't so bad.

[fusuymada]

My five thoughts and I think we have shown that we can compete with the best in the league now that we have got ourselves in a little better position. Had we won two of those four we lost, we would be looking like superstars but here are my 5 thoughts.

If everyone is healthy and ghost players like Dumervil finally show up,

1 Bengals - we will beat them twice
2 Dolphins - not what people thought they would be
3 Eagles - have been figured out
4 Steelers - did it once, can do it again
5 Patriots - okay, so we may lose one, but this one isn't out of reach.

The NFL is fluid and to say at the beginning of the year that the Ravens toughest stretch will be at the end was a little premature. They can easily go 5-1 during this run and end up being a 10-6 team.

[crazyboutravens]

Ozzie, please, please get us a defensive backfield. Get rid of Wright, Powers and anyone else who wants to play 15yds off of receivers. Please Please!!!!!

[griffrb]

Good morning. Needless to say, very disappointed. It was a winnable game like all the previous ones. Our offense didn't sustain their drives due to various reasons. It's simple: we're one of the best mediocre teams in the NFL right now. Are the Ravens elite and put fear into the enemy? No. Is Flacco elite? We know the answer to that question too, but 2/3rds of the league would like to have him. We're 5-5 and tied for 1st place in our division and control our destiny. Can we do the job and win 4 of 6 of the remaining game to have a shot at the division? 5 of 6 would certainly win our division. Our current history says, we're likely to finish 8-8. We may not like it, but this beats being out the playoff hunt at this stage of the season!

[griffrb]

The Ravens lost because of three things. 1) Prescott had all day to throw to Bryant and Witten. 2) The Ravens seem determined to commit stupid penalties at the worst times, especially on offense to kill drives. 3) Flacco has never been an accurate passer. How many wide open receivers did he miss yesterday? Even on that meaningless hail mary at the end, he lofted it out of the end zone. Prescott -- a rookie -- on the other hand, was lights out. Given Flacco's contract, there's no way to improve at QB and that means a .500 team. Oh well, the Packers, Panthers, and Bengals are stinking up the joint too, so maybe .500 isn't so bad.

.500 isn't so bad when you're leading the division and controlling your own destiny. I'll take this at this point! Best of the mediocre? OK.

[PalmBayRaven]

Good morning. Needless to say, very disappointed. It was a winnable game like all the previous ones. Our offense didn't sustain their drives due to various reasons. It's simple: we're one of the best mediocre teams in the NFL right now. Are the Ravens elite and put fear into the enemy? No. Is Flacco elite? We know the answer to that question too, but 2/3rds of the league would like to have him. We're 5-5 and tied for 1st place in our division and control our destiny. Can we do the job and win 4 of 6 of the remaining game to have a shot at the division? 5 of 6 would certainly win our division. Our current history says, we're likely to finish 8-8. We may not like it, but this beats being out the playoff hunt at this stage of the season!

If 2/3 of league would want Flacco I say Trade him now. He sucks and let's move on form his bovine skat contract.

[TheConquerorWorm]

  4 hours ago, utalkingtome123 said:

I agree with points 1,2 and 3 but we did run the ball. Dallas just started clamping down on it at some point. We need a consistent o-line and some damn corners bad! CB and S should be # 1 and 2 on our draft board in my opinion.

We started off running it well, 6 carries 71 yards in first Quarter, 6 runs 15 yards in 2nd quarter  ( 86 yards in the first half ) then second half completely gave up on it only 3 carries 15 yards including a Flacco scramble and that was midway through the 3rd quarter. 

That first touchdown drive was filled with power runs behind Yanda and Stanley with Juice in for 3 of those 4 runs.  

1. 13 yd Wallace 
2. - 0 West 
3. - 4 Dixon            
4. - 20 Dixon 
5. - 16 west 
6. - 18 west 
 First quarter ends  6 carries 71 yds 
7. -  (-2)Dixon 
8. - 4 Dixon 
9. - 5 west 
10. - 0 west 
11. -  (-3 )west 
12. - 5 Dixon 
13. - 6 west 
Second Qtr ends 6 carries 15 yds
14. - 0 west 
15. - 6 Flacco 
16. - 9 Dixon ( last run of the game at 6:27 left in 3rd Quarter score 17-10 Dallas. Also the Unnecessary Roughess on Zuttah play. ) 
 3rd quarter 3 carries 15 yds rushing 

Put it in perspective Zeke only had 6 carries 26 yards in the first half and finished with 25 carries for 97 yards.  So they kept running it regardless of lack of early success and despite them having exploited our secondary completing 17 out of 18 at one point. 

You're not painting the whole picture.

The last run at 6:37 in the 3rd Quarter was a holding call which put you in 2nd & 16. After punting, the Ravens never got the ball again until 11:30 left in the 4th Quarter - Dallas chewed up 8 minutes on that drive. They also scored making it a 14 point lead. The Ravens scored on their next possession and then kicked off with 8:16 remaining in the 4th quarter. The Cowboys then drove down the field for a FG with 1:50 remaining - another 6:26 min drive.

So after the last run in the 3rd quarter, Baltimore only got the ball twice - the 1st time down 14 points and the 2nd time with 1:50 remaining down by 10.

[The Greek]

58 minutes ago, fusuymada said:

My five thoughts and I think we have shown that we can compete with the best in the league now that we have got ourselves in a little better position. Had we won two of those four we lost, we would be looking like superstars but here are my 5 thoughts.

If everyone is healthy and ghost players like Dumervil finally show up,

1 Bengals - we will beat them twice
2 Dolphins - not what people thought they would be
3 Eagles - have been figured out
4 Steelers - did it once, can do it again
5 Patriots - okay, so we may lose one, but this one isn't out of reach.

The NFL is fluid and to say at the beginning of the year that the Ravens toughest stretch will be at the end was a little premature. They can easily go 5-1 during this run and end up being a 10-6 team.

unless the offense improves they will lose many of these games

Edited November 21, 2016 by The Greek

[CQ1]

  2 hours ago, fusuymada said:

My five thoughts and I think we have shown that we can compete with the best in the league now that we have got ourselves in a little better position. Had we won two of those four we lost, we would be looking like superstars but here are my 5 thoughts.

If everyone is healthy and ghost players like Dumervil finally show up,

1 Bengals - we will beat them twice
2 Dolphins - not what people thought they would be
3 Eagles - have been figured out
4 Steelers - did it once, can do it again
5 Patriots - okay, so we may lose one, but this one isn't out of reach.

The NFL is fluid and to say at the beginning of the year that the Ravens toughest stretch will be at the end was a little premature. They can easily go 5-1 during this run and end up being a 10-6 team.

unless the offense improves they will lose many of these games

Roger that Fusumyada. (Some fans get real gassy when they drink too much of the purple kool-aid. I'll hope for a 10-6 team, although I'll accept the reality of it)

[dirtybird66]

what players are saying by continually making lots of penalties is,"we don't want to play for this coach anymore or it's qb. for that matter!

[dirtybird66]

I don't think it's time for a total rebuild,but i do think it's time to move on from the FLACCO/HARBAUGH era.we don't move on lightly here just for the sake of moving on,but the record speaks for itself,we made the mold for winning,a tough,physical,mauling front line,on both sides,we wore down and beatdown teams,if we didn't win atleast you'd look at next weeks injury report of the team we just played and half that team wasn't playing the next game,FLACCO doesn't have the demeanor anymore to win the close games we always put ourselves in,like a ALEX SMITH does.it's easy to score in this league,especially with a mauling line to wear a team down,BISCIOTTI bit,hook line and sinker that FLACCO'S 4 games were a turning point for FLACCO,he came here as a game manager and did ok with a stellar defense,but putting the game on his shoulders is just not him and the sooner he gives back some of that money he robbed from BISCIOTTI and we move on,the better,wev'e cussed our tv sets way too many times in the FLACCO era and even if we lose with another guy that shows GRIT we can live with it.a refuse to lose attitude a qb that plays every game like a playoff,we'll live with it,but i don't think people can take anymore of a guy coming to the mic after every loss and not making it seem like a big deal,BALTIMORE is an emotional town,we don't take losing lightly,maybe he can go to a more laid back kind of town out out in CALIFORNIA,it's really just maddening watching a guy with all the charictor of a houseplant.an elite qb is not rated #14 or 18th in QB rating year after year.show something! not just go sit down by yourself on the bench like your a spectator of the game,get up go around your players and get on the same page,ok guys watch the penalties this drive,RONNIE,i'm gonna need just a little extra time on this play,i'm going deep,BRESHARD,I really need you to come back to me if you see me getting out of the pocket,WALLACE,I need you to really turn the jets on right here,their gonna bring the heat,these are all hings a motivated QB does throughout the game,believe me,i know and you can tell this does not happen with his team.BISCIOTTI,you got "CAT FISHED"

[dirtybird66]

hope everyone took a good look at the team we used to be!

[dirtybird66]

can anyone tell me that yet again the only 2 players we send to the PROBOWL are TUCKER and KOCH? anyone? and thats my point! OZZIE!

[Crusader]

Friday I thought I could smell a Ravens upset, little did I know it just was the Ravens receivers getting burnt.

[Minionhunter]

14 hours ago, Militant X 1 said:

Joe has said that he likes the no huddle.  It helps him and the offense get into what I call a "confident-rhythm".  When you're constantly moving the chains it becomes a psychological warfare of some sorts.  You're establishing in the minds of your opponents that we can move the ball on you at will and you can't stop it!  Both TD drives....once earlier in the game and then when they were down by 14...they ran the no huddle...moved the chains ...and put up TD's.  

So, why in the hell would you go away from what is working?  The argument?  Got to take what the defense gives you yada, yada, yada!  No!  Whatever happened to just..."running your offense?"  The Ravens defense slowed down Zeke today but they stayed true to their offensive style of wearing defenses down by running the ball and controlling the time of possession!  THAT'S WHAT THEY DO!  And that is regardless of what their opponents do.  Not the Ravens!

The offensive game planning and playcalling is just mind-boggling with this team.  Smh!

I don't always agree with you but this is accurate. At the very least they should have gone no huddle the entire second half, as soon as it started. Morhenwig is the wrong guy. Just like Trestman he can't adapt, plus he can't install his offense either. I personally think MM was pissed at everyone suggesting he should go no huddle up tempo he wanted to prove that they didn't need to do it. Then when he recognized they had to use it (and it worked) it was already too late. 

 

 

[Crusader]

Ozzie, please, please get us a defensive backfield. Get rid of Wright, Powers and anyone else who wants to play 15yds off of receivers. Please Please!!!!!

He has not done that in 4 years. Maybe he is a little SLOW to react?