Next Up: Ravens vs Bengals, Sunday November 27 at M&T Bank

[Rav'n Maniac]

Wow, I am shocked. No halfbaked, erroneous, troll oriented, laughable game predictions this week? It truly is Thanksgiving!

[Ravensfan23]

33 minutes ago, Cillmatic said:

It's a good thing the HALF is more than the fourth quarter...

We were tied at half and at the end of the third quarter we were only down by one score. Did YOU watch the game? I didn't know it was ok to abandon the run when you're tied or down by one score...

We only ran the ball twice in the second half. Stop trying to defend that.

Oh so lets play out the entire 3rd quarter offensively and see how you would have done anything differently. 

First play of the 3rd quarter, 20 yard pass to SSS. Next play on 1st and 10 you run the ball for zero yards with West. Now it's 2nd and 10 are you running the ball here after getting nothing on first down? 

On 2nd and 10 the Ravens used the running game(playaction) to set up a 1on1 opportunity for Wallace but Pitta missed a block. Are you running the ball on 3rd and 10? On 3rd and 10 Dallas breaks up a pass to Wallace. The Ravens proceed to punt the ball back to Dallas with 13:20 left in the 3rd quarter, got the ball back with 7:31 left and down 7. 

Ok lets run the ball. 1st play is a 5 yard pass to SSS and the 2nd play is a 6 yard run by Flacco. Those are two good chances to run the ball there, but passing the ball produced a 1st down, how can you knock it? The very next play the Ravens successfully run the ball with Dixon for a 9 yard gain, the problem is Zuttah is called for a very questionable penalty. Now the Ravens are facing a 2nd and 16. Are you running the ball here? I don't think so. The Ravens pick up 11 yards to Wallace, now it's 3rd and 5, are you running the all here? Ravens punt and get the ball back again in the 4th quarter down by 14 points.

So since i clearly don't know what i'm talking about and just want to defend the Ravens, let's see how you would have done differently.

[Ravensfan23]

Just now, Rav'n Maniac said:

Wow, I am shocked. No halfbaked, erroneous, troll oriented, laughable game predictions this week? It truly is Thanksgiving!

tis the season

[poescrows]

3 minutes ago, Ravensfan23 said:

Not sure Waller, a former WR i much better at this point in his career. Boyle should help tremendously. 

 

 

 

Yes, Boyle should be a step up. But prior to that, Wiggy has to recognize that calling any play relying on Pitta to block is a waste of a down.....or worse. 

[Ravensfan23]

Just now, poescrows said:

Yes, Boyle should be a step up. But prior to that, Wiggy has to recognize that calling any play relying on Pitta to block is a waste of a down.....or worse. 

But at what point do you say that one person can't force you to completely change your playbook. Pitta just has to be better. He had no problem standing before the media and basically trowing Trestman under the bus when he was led to be the scapegoat, now he needs to step up and be better. 

I think the Ravens could easily replace Pitta in that position with Hurst but those plays are setting up other play action and misdirection plays. So when the defense sees that formation again but it's Pitta there instead of a blocker they are probably gonna be smart enough to figure it out. Pitta just has to be better or lose snaps to guys like Boyle and Waller when they prove to be better. 

[poescrows]

4 minutes ago, Ravensfan23 said:

Oh so lets play out the entire 3rd quarter offensively and see how you would have done anything differently. 

First play of the 3rd quarter, 20 yard pass to SSS. Next play on 1st and 10 you run the ball for zero yards with West. Now it's 2nd and 10 are you running the ball here after getting nothing on first down? 

On 2nd and 10 the Ravens used the running game(playaction) to set up a 1on1 opportunity for Wallace but Pitta missed a block. Are you running the ball on 3rd and 10? On 3rd and 10 Dallas breaks up a pass to Wallace. The Ravens proceed to punt the ball back to Dallas with 13:20 left in the 3rd quarter, got the ball back with 7:31 left and down 7. 

Ok lets run the ball. 1st play is a 5 yard pass to SSS and the 2nd play is a 6 yard run by Flacco. Those are two good chances to run the ball there, but passing the ball produced a 1st down, how can you knock it? The very next play the Ravens successfully run the ball with Dixon for a 9 yard gain, the problem is Zuttah is called for a very questionable penalty. Now the Ravens are facing a 2nd and 16. Are you running the ball here? I don't think so. The Ravens pick up 11 yards to Wallace, now it's 3rd and 5, are you running the all here? Ravens punt and get the ball back again in the 4th quarter down by 14 points.

So since i clearly don't know what i'm talking about and just want to defend the Ravens, let's see how you would have done differently.

From " My Cousin Vinny"............Judge says "that was very articulate, well thought out argument. OVER RULED"   lol, just kidding. Agree with you, it's hard to see where they could have run the ball more. Especially with the O-line in such trans flux this season. 

[poescrows]

1 minute ago, Ravensfan23 said:

But at what point do you say that one person can't force you to completely change your playbook. Pitta just has to be better. He had no problem standing before the media and basically trowing Trestman under the bus when he was led to be the scapegoat, now he needs to step up and be better. 

I think the Ravens could easily replace Pitta in that position with Hurst but those plays are setting up other play action and misdirection plays. So when the defense sees that formation again but it's Pitta there instead of a blocker they are probably gonna be smart enough to figure it out. Pitta just has to be better or lose snaps to guys like Boyle and Waller when they prove to be better. 

Yes, Pitta needs to be better. But needing to be better, and actually being better is two different things. If you're TE sucks at blocking, you can't keep asking him to in the hopes that on one of those plays he's gonna suddenly get it right. 

[Tank 92]

1 hour ago, poescrows said:

still can't figure out wth pitta is doing on the field in te blocking plays. he's awful.

We didn't have anyone else but Waller. Boyle coming back fixes that.

[Rav'n Maniac]

It's about time they sit Z. Smith this year. Hopefully this will give him a little motivation.

[ravensnj]

Boyle will allow Pitta to put up HUGE numbers!

[Ravensfan23]

3 minutes ago, ravensnj said:

Boyle will allow Pitta to put up HUGE numbers!

I would love that but I don't think blocking is what has limited Pitta's numbers. I think the fact that he isn't creating the same type of separation in his routes and isn't able to quickly attack the 2nd and 3rd level of the defense is what has limited his numbers. But I hope you're right. 

[Tank 92]

1 minute ago, Ravensfan23 said:

I would love that but I don't think blocking is what has limited Pitta's numbers. I think the fact that he isn't creating the same type of separation in his routes and isn't able to quickly attack the 2nd and 3rd level of the defense is what has limited his numbers. But I hope you're right. 

Maybe if he can play more of an H back role his routes are run cleaner.

[DomMcRaven]

Another game without Jimmy.  *sighs*    Just win please.

[terrynjulia03]

11 minutes ago, DomMcRaven said:

Another game without Jimmy.  *sighs*    Just win please.

He's really starting to become a problem. 

[Ravensfan23]

10 minutes ago, Tank 92 said:

Maybe if he can play more of an H back role his routes are run cleaner.

That may work, but H back role usually requires you to block as well. The running game seems to be moving to more of a power blocking scheme so that H Back would be asked to perform traps and counter blocks. I'm just not sure Pitta is worth shaping the offense around him. Using him as a H-Back takes Juice off the field and I don't think that's a upgrade at all. 

I'm honestly starting to get that Forssett type feel with Pitta. I'd rather let the young guys sink or swim at the position than have him taking reps when he's not performing well. Which is really tough for me because i'm a huge Pitta fan. 

[terrynjulia03]

2 minutes ago, Ravensfan23 said:

That may work, but H back role usually requires you to block as well. The running game seems to be moving to more of a power blocking scheme so that H Back would be asked to perform traps and counter blocks. I'm just not sure Pitta is worth shaping the offense around him. Using him as a H-Back takes Juice off the field and I don't think that's a upgrade at all. 

I'm honestly starting to get that Forssett type feel with Pitta. I'd rather let the young guys sink or swim at the position than have him taking reps when he's not performing well. Which is really tough for me because i'm a huge Pitta fan. 

They activated Boyle and he's practiced the past week and change. I'd rather see him get the majority of snaps. Use Pitta as a 3rd down decoy. 

[Tank 92]

3 minutes ago, Ravensfan23 said:

That may work, but H back role usually requires you to block as well. The running game seems to be moving to more of a power blocking scheme so that H Back would be asked to perform traps and counter blocks. I'm just not sure Pitta is worth shaping the offense around him. Using him as a H-Back takes Juice off the field and I don't think that's a upgrade at all. 

I'm honestly starting to get that Forssett type feel with Pitta. I'd rather let the young guys sink or swim at the position than have him taking reps when he's not performing well. Which is really tough for me because i'm a huge Pitta fan. 

yeah, I think we chatted about this before. May be that the hip is limiting him.  Still holding out some hope!

[Ravensfan23]

Just now, terrynjulia03 said:

They activated Boyle and he's practiced the past week and change. I'd rather see him get the majority of snaps. Use Pitta as a 3rd down decoy. 

Yea Boyle is actually a really good TE and the Ravens should not only use his blocking but take advantage of his sure hands and RAC on playaction passes. 

3 minutes ago, Tank 92 said:

yeah, I think we chatted about this before. May be that the hip is limiting him.  Still holding out some hope!

Yeah I think the hip injury has really sapped too much out of Pitta. Who knows, maybe it's the same mental hurdle that Flacco had to get over but whatever it is, Pitta doesn't look the same. 

[jboy19]

Looks like good news for the Judon fans 

[BmoreBird22]

I always felt Pitta was overrated around here, but those hip injuries have taken away much of what I even liked.

[wizard1]

Had to get my prediction in last minute on this game. Good teams find ways to win big games-bad teams find ways to lose them. These are 2 bad football teams but as bad as the Ravens are I think they can beat a one-armed fighter in the Bengals. A typical close game 24-20 Ravens

[DomMcRaven]

33 minutes ago, terrynjulia03 said:

He's really starting to become a problem. 

And the thing is, he really makes a difference in the secondary when he's good to go. I don't pay attention to college football prospects like several posters do, but I heard that the CB class is deep this year, so I hope the FO takes full advantage of that.