Next Up: Ravens vs Bengals, Sunday November 27 at M&T Bank

[Rav'n Maniac]

Bye Asa, it's been real.

[Ravensfan23]

1 hour ago, Cillmatic said:

The Ravens had just two rushes in the second half of their 27-17 loss to the Dallas Cowboys after getting off to a hot start on the ground.

This has happened multiple times this season.

If this happens again against the Bengals or any other team this season Marty Morninweg needs to be fired.

Did you actually watch the game or just look at the stats? Who runs the ball down 14 points in the 4th quarter?

Before the 4th quarter the pass:run was 20:13. Also the Raves tired to run the ball but penalties got them behind the sticks. You aren't gonna run the ball very successfully at 2nd and 16. 

[hn68wb4]

2 hours ago, Rav'n Maniac said:

Bye Asa, it's been real.

He's probably just going to head back down to the PS

[JoeyFlex5]

Would be cool if Boyle could bring a spark. I didn't like us double dipping at TE in 2014 but our TE group has been a freight train of bad luck so thank God for it lol

[Tank 92]

Excited to see Boyle back on the roster. The "rosy" pre season picture at TE turned to poop, maybe can get better for the late season push.  Would definitely help a ton.

[Cillmatic]

I'm just glad we're gonna have a TE who's actually CAPABLE of blocking.

[gtalk12]

1 minute ago, Cillmatic said:

I'm just glad we're gonna have a TE who's actually CAPABLE of blocking.

Once Maxx returns I think the run game improves as well

[Cillmatic]

1 minute ago, gtalk12 said:

Once Maxx returns I think the run game improves as well

Next year?

[balfan23]

2 hours ago, Ravensfan23 said:

Did you actually watch the game or just look at the stats? Who runs the ball down 14 points in the 4th quarter?

Before the 4th quarter the pass:run was 20:13. Also the Raves tired to run the ball but penalties got them behind the sticks. You aren't gonna run the ball very successfully at 2nd and 16. 

The 3rd quarter starts - . Dallas had 2 possessions and we got 1 ... and the quarter was gone. Our one possession, we had a nice run play that was going to give us a 2nd and 2 and the unnecessary roughness penalty on Zuttah for blocking a guy who was still actively going after the ball carrier (SMH) killed the drive.

Then, as you say, the 14 point deficit going into the 4th quarter (with the expected high pass to run ratio). Marty didn't kill our run game in the 2nd half last Sunday, our defense did by allowing Dallas to occupy the field for about 13 minutes of it. 

[Ravensfan23]

2 minutes ago, balfan23 said:

The killer of the run game was the fact that our D was unable to stop Dallas in the 3rd quarter. They had 2 possessions and we had one and the quarter was gone. Our one possession, we had a nice run play that was going to give us a 2nd and 2 and the unnecessary roughness penalty on Zuttah for blocking a guy who was still actively going after the ball carrier (SMH) killed the drive.

Then, as you say, the 14 point deficit going into the 4th quarter (with the expected high pass to run ratio). Marty didn't kill our run game in the 2nd half last Sunday, our defense did. 

We actually had 2 possessions in the 3rd quarter. We started the 2nd half with the ball, completed the 1,000th catch for SSS and got the ball out to midfield, but on 2nd 10 Pitta missed a block and Flacco couldn't hit Wallace would had a step and would have had the ball atleast inside the 30. Yet another missed opportunity for this offense. 

I agree that the defenses inability to get off the field in the 2nd half really hurt, but I have to give the offense's inability to stay on the field just as much blame. The Ravens should've had their way with that defense. 

[leehop71]

Hey all. I am  a Bengals fan, actually I am a converted Brown's fan until the Bengals came to town in 1968.

I just wanted to stop  and say  tomorrow's game  is a win/win for me. I will never root against the Bengals and fans are still at a loss as to putting a finger on what broke down for the team this year, but the Ravens should  have an easy win. I won't be upset either  because I will pull for the Ravens all day when comes down to you and the Steelers. I think the Steelers are thugs starting at the top with Tomlin all the way down.  Unless the West has a meltdown it looks like both WC teams will come from that division.

If you win tomorrow, I pray you guys keep those Rears at home for the playoffs!

Good luck!

Lee

[balfan23]

3 hours ago, Rav'n Maniac said:

Bye Asa, it's been real.

I know some had been thinking a few weeks ago that Hester would be let go when Boyle returned, but Asa we far more expendable. I've been in agreement that haven't been thrilled with Hester's performance, but really most all of his issues seem to be on handling punts. He's been a pretty effective kickoff returner. It would be nice if Camp was able to take that duty and keep Hester returning kickoffs. 

[jazz1988]

1 hour ago, gtalk12 said:

Once Maxx returns I think the run game improves as well

I always thought Crockett Gilmore was the better blocker if not the best  blocking tightend on the team.

[JoeyFlex5]

35 minutes ago, jazz1988 said:

I always thought Crockett Gilmore was the better blocker if not the best  blocking tightend on the team.

maxx williams blocking is very underrated. as a rookie he was a tryhard blocker and occasionally bodied up on guys well but was also sloppy, he seemed to clean up and even ramped up his intensity and effort as a blocker, he was knocking dudes blocks off in preseason as a blocker. sadly he didnt appear to improve as a receiver. its a shame he got injured, im still hholding out hope that maxx becomes a very good TE, i simply refuse to believe all the talent and smooth play he showed in college was just a flash in the pan.

[K-Dog]

1 hour ago, leehop71 said:

Hey all. I am  a Bengals fan, actually I am a converted Brown's fan until the Bengals came to town in 1968.

I just wanted to stop  and say  tomorrow's game  is a win/win for me. I will never root against the Bengals and fans are still at a loss as to putting a finger on what broke down for the team this year, but the Ravens should  have an easy win. I won't be upset either  because I will pull for the Ravens all day when comes down to you and the Steelers. I think the Steelers are thugs starting at the top with Tomlin all the way down.  Unless the West has a meltdown it looks like both WC teams will come from that division.

If you win tomorrow, I pray you guys keep those Rears at home for the playoffs!

Good luck!

Lee

I guess you haven't been watching us too much. 
There is no way in H.E. double hocky sticks we are going to have an EASY  win.  That is just not us.  We simply do not do that.  I mean we did real good on the bye week, but other than the Browns game every W has been a hard earned.
This game will be no exception. 
I am not saying we don't get the W, I am saying it won't be easy.

[FlocksGottaFeed]

This game will be a war. Most likely will have a score of 23-24 somewhere in it (23-24 for one team or the other has been in last 5 of last 7 games), but I just used it because 24 rhythms with war. This is a rivalry people.

"Is the rivalry switching? I don’t know," Smith said. "I don’t know, because I kind of hate the Bengals." This assertion would be considered blasphemous if it wasn't said by a Ravens player. But he has a point given how the series have panned out lately. - Jamison Hensley ESPN Staff Writer 2015

http://www.espn.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/87229/have-the-bengals-surpassed-the-steelers-as-the-ravens-chief-rivals

The only fan-base that's acknowledged it consistently through the years is the Bengals. It's time we did. Wake-up Raven Fans - let's go! It's a 20-20 match-up. Not breaking 200 replies at the eve of such a relevant game. Where's the passion? The Cowboys was a gut shot, but...it didn't knock us out. We need to act like we need to get this 21st win. To me, this is the most important game of the season.

Connections

• Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis was Ravens defensive coordinator from 1996-2001 and earned a Super Bowl ring in 2000.
• Ravens head coach John Harbaugh is from Perrysburg, Ohio, played DB at Miami (Ohio) and coached at Morehead State (1988) and the University of Cincinnati (1989-96).
• Ravens OLB Elvis Dumervil played at Louisville.
• Bengals special teams coordinator Darrin Simmons entered NFL coaching with the Ravens in 1998.
• Ravens assistant head coach/special teams coordinator Jerry Rosburg was on the University of Cincinnati staff from 1992-95.
• Bengals strength and conditioning coach Chip Morton was assistant S/C coach for the Ravens from 1999-2001.
• Bengals assistant strength and conditioning coach Jeff Friday was on the Ravens staff from 1999- 2007.
• Ravens assistant special teams coach Chris Hewitt played at the University of Cincinnati from 1993-96.
• Ravens inside linebackers coach Don Martindale is from Dayton, Ohio, played at Defiance College from 1981-84, and coached at Defiance (‘86-87), University of Cincinnati (‘96-98) and Western Kentucky (2001-03).
• Ravens WR Chris Moore played at the University of Cincinnati.
• Ravens secondary coach Leslie Frazier coached with the Bengals in 2003-04 (etc.).It goes on and on.

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/nfl/bengals/2016/11/22/first-look-cincinnati-bengals-at-baltimore-ravens/94292180/

GO Ravens!!! Let's get this '20-one' with conviction. THIS IS A RIVALRY. (Steelers and Patriots are on the list as well, of course.)

[Sherly_Tebow]

I'm feeling a 20-13 win here for us. I don't think either team will pull away with the game, but the Ravens defense will be too much for the Bengals. 

J. Flacco 18/28 214 yards, 1 TD / 0 int. 

T. West 11 carries, 49 yards, TD

E. Weddle 1 int.

[Ravenseconbeast]

21 minutes ago, Sherly_Tebow said:

I'm feeling a 20-13 win here for us. I don't think either team will pull away with the game, but the Ravens defense will be too much for the Bengals. 

J. Flacco 18/28 214 yards, 1 TD / 0 int. 

T. West 11 carries, 49 yards, TD

E. Weddle 1 int.

 

That is a awful stat for a 120m QB.  What is he Cody Kessler for the browns? 

[Sherly_Tebow]

14 minutes ago, Ravenseconbeast said:

That is a awful stat for a 120m QB.  What is he Cody Kessler for the browns? 

Don't get me wrong, Flacco very well could throw for 300 yards and 3 TDs. I just think that he won't have to do that tomorrow. We establish the run with Dixon and West, and have a few long drives that take up clock and result in points. We win the Time of Possesion battle tomorrow, with no pressure on Flacco to throw a lot. He'll secure the ball and manage the game.

Edited November 27, 2016 by Sherly_Tebow

[Cillmatic]

7 hours ago, Ravenseconbeast said:

That is a awful stat for a 120m QB.  What is he Cody Kessler for the browns? 

Bro, it's Flacco...

[Deflated Football]

I'm nervous about this game. I feel like we'll play down to the Bengals and put up another stinker like we did against the Jets

[leehop71]

12 hours ago, K-Dog said:

I guess you haven't been watching us too much. 
There is no way in H.E. double hocky sticks we are going to have an EASY  win.  That is just not us.  We simply do not do that.  I mean we did real good on the bye week, but other than the Browns game every W has been a hard earned.
This game will be no exception. 
I am not saying we don't get the W, I am saying it won't be easy.

Well, the AFC North isn't exactly on fire, that I understand, but the Bengals will be without Green and Bernard.

[poescrows]

14 hours ago, Ravensfan23 said:

We actually had 2 possessions in the 3rd quarter. We started the 2nd half with the ball, completed the 1,000th catch for SSS and got the ball out to midfield, but on 2nd 10 Pitta missed a block and Flacco couldn't hit Wallace would had a step and would have had the ball atleast inside the 30. Yet another missed opportunity for this offense. 

I agree that the defenses inability to get off the field in the 2nd half really hurt, but I have to give the offense's inability to stay on the field just as much blame. The Ravens should've had their way with that defense. 

still can't figure out wth pitta is doing on the field in te blocking plays. he's awful.

[JimmyBlack]

17 hours ago, Ravensfan23 said:

Did you actually watch the game or just look at the stats? Who runs the ball down 14 points in the 4th quarter?

Before the 4th quarter the pass:run was 20:13. Also the Raves tired to run the ball but penalties got them behind the sticks. You aren't gonna run the ball very successfully at 2nd and 16. 

Ravens really need to keep running the ball.

[Cillmatic]

17 hours ago, Ravensfan23 said:

Did you actually watch the game or just look at the stats? Who runs the ball down 14 points in the 4th quarter?

Before the 4th quarter the pass:run was 20:13. Also the Raves tired to run the ball but penalties got them behind the sticks. You aren't gonna run the ball very successfully at 2nd and 16. 

It's a good thing the HALF is more than the fourth quarter...

We were tied at half and at the end of the third quarter we were only down by one score. Did YOU watch the game? I didn't know it was ok to abandon the run when you're tied or down by one score...

We only ran the ball twice in the second half. Stop trying to defend that.

Edited November 27, 2016 by Cillmatic

[757RavensFan]

On 11/26/2016 at 9:55 AM, Cillmatic said:

Has Joe EVER done ANYTHING before the snap except call a timeout? I've seen him SEE blitz formations and ignore then multiple times. It's extremely rare that he makes pre-snap adjustments.

We might have lost the Superbowl if Flacco didn't check out of the play on 4th down and throw to Bolden for the 1st. 

[Cillmatic]

1 minute ago, 757RavensFan said:

We might have lost the Superbowl if Flacco didn't check out of the play on 4th down and throw to Bolden for the 1st. 

And that was great, but a rarity, which shows that he should be doing it more.

[balfan23]

6 minutes ago, 757RavensFan said:

We might have lost the Superbowl if Flacco didn't check out of the play on 4th down and throw to Bolden for the 1st. 

That play was what prompted Harbs to say - "Joe has the guts of a burglar". I love it ... so many plays mixed into that entire run that are basically forgotten, but without them, we don't know if we'd have survived. 

[January J]

23 minutes ago, Cillmatic said:

It's a good thing the HALF is more than the fourth quarter...

We were tied at half and at the end of the third quarter we were only down by one score. Did YOU watch the game? I didn't know it was ok to abandon the run when you're tied or down by one score...

We only ran the ball twice in the second half. Stop trying to defend that.

the way the second half played out it was almost impossible to keep running the rock. Sure a few more runs could've been mixed in there...but penalties had us set back facing several 1st and 2nd and long situations. Combine that with only having like 4 drives in the entire second half and the cowboys milking the clock as much as they did..it wouldve been very hard to continue running. I agree we shouldve tried to sprinkle in a few more- but we def didn't "abandon" the run..and most that watched the game and didn't just look at the stat line would agree. Not saying you didn't.

[Ravensfan23]

33 minutes ago, poescrows said:

still can't figure out wth pitta is doing on the field in te blocking plays. he's awful.

Not sure Waller, a former WR i much better at this point in his career. Boyle should help tremendously. 

 

28 minutes ago, JimmyBlack said:

Ravens really need to keep running the ball.

I agree 100%. However in that game the Ravens had 2 3rd quarter possessions and got behind the chains on both. It's hard to run the ball when you're facing 2nd and long or 3rd and long. Then after that they were down by 14 and needed quick scores.