Week 11: The Good, Bad and Ugly post game vent/rant Cowboys

[Tank 92]

28 minutes ago, FlocksGottaFeed said:

Just want end my input with the good (We all should) Ending with a positive note.

The Ugly: After half-time for some unknown reason both of our coordinators took their feet off the pedal. Why? It had their offense playing into our strengths and was completely exposing their defense before the half. What gives? The game 'critical' phantom calls that were heavily in favor of the Cowboys (Inconsistent Questionable Officiating). The commentators and replay team. There was so much questionable stuff going-on in the Dallas secondary that never got attention or a second look - it was hard to watch this game for anyone who really knows the sport.

The Bad: We didn't get to silence the Raven Trolls.

The Good:

1) We unquestionably out-rushed the anointed 'Gods of Rushing' in the 1st half (West, Dixon and our O-line) double rushing yards).

2) We unquestionably out-played the anointed "Gods of America's Team" all around in the 1st half.

3) Although we went into the locker room tied (see 'Officiating - Ugly and Scheme Changes' above) we showed those who really know the sport that we can beat anybody when given a fair opportunity to do so.

4) Steve Smith reached a plateau that only leagues achieve.

5) There was never a moment (even when a loss was eminent) our players gave up (character).

6) We're still 1st in our division! 

well, well, well,  a post from someone that actually watched the game.  

I lost it when they didn't call PI against the guy holding on to Aiken in the end zone, last straw for me. Good thing my beer was empty and the can was in a fat coozie or there may have been some damage done when it sailed across the room!   lol    I seriously think we win this game if played on a level playing field.

A lot of good to take away from the offensive play in the first half. Imaginative play calling, good execution and some great work done by the patchwork O line. There was actually some rhythm to the play, until short circuited by penalties. I think they build on those successes and greatly increase production moving forward.

 

Edited November 20, 2016 by Tank 92

[JoeyFlex5]

We have failed to get younger at key positions. Out pass rush has been hung up on suggs and doom and we are it backfiring, you can't hang your hopes on such a crucial aspect of your team on old players. The difference between a win or loss for us seems to be whether or not Jimmy smith is healthy, so our cb group has to be addressed. And We need to get starters AND depth on the ol and secondary. 

Were pretenders. We get inured too much and we can't make up for it because our roster is talent defeicient.

[Somerset Ravens]

11 minutes ago, ravensnj said:

We chose to pass on Sterling Shepard. Hopefully, Christian McCaffrey will be there for us. He can single handedly keep the Offense going.  

McCaffrey would do very little behind our offensive line.

[trevorsteadman]

Offense: Zuttah needs to be replaced. Sure he is tough but he piles up penalties now in several games. Offense needs to RUN THE BALL! The front office didn't fire Trestman to keep doing what Trestman would've kept doing. West had 6 yards a carry or whatever, and Dixon probably almost that. After the first touchdown drive that looked nearly flawless what does the offense do? Abandons the run. This has been an issue week in and week out. This team should've won this game but they abandoned the run.

Defense: Did anyone else see the press disappear? First half the defense looked phenomenal. Then you slowly started to see what we are accustomed to seeing. Corners playing 10 yards off the receiver to allow those dink and dunk passes. Also key big runs what happened to his #1 defense? Why is the team putting 5'9 Tavon Young on Dez Bryant who is 6'2 and one of the best veteran pass catchers in the game. The Ravens defense change after the first half was terrible. I couldn't watch it. They allowed Dallas to hold onto the ball for so long that second half. 

[jdynamite]

1 hour ago, 808Blackbirds said:

Watch the game next time 

Silly 10 year old? ??.  ??

[Tank 92]

8 minutes ago, Ravensfan23 said:

Yeah and people like Brad Jackson will say it's his and the offenses fault that the defense couldn't get off the field but that's not the case. My only issue with the offense outside of the penalties is that neither Waller or Perriman seemed to be apart of the game plan, but again the offense just didn't tough the ball enough in the 2nd half as you said.

Zuttah has to be replaced.

I actually think Zuttah had one of his better games. I chalk up the holding calls to biased officiating(yes, it was clearly biased), and the personal foul was complete horse crap. That said, we do need to replace him. 

Brad Jackson.....oh my.  What a hack.

Edited November 20, 2016 by Tank 92

[omar586]

30 minutes ago, Ravens419 said:

This ^^^ as soon as I saw Jimmy wasn't playing I said Dez gets atleast two on us and what do you know the only positive things I can say about this game is we did stop Zeke fairly well that cowboys OL can move some men it was like there Oline went lights out come the second half Dak had all day in the pocket and the offense didn't look that bad I think we got Joe back for the rest of the year I'll say he's playing good smart football our offense didn't play bad minus the penalties we have a HUGE one in a week against  Cinciy and the Raven killer won't be playing let's go get one 

my thoughts exactly, when i heard on thursday that jimmy wasn't playing i immediatly stopped talking crap to cowboys fans. lol

[redrum52]

1 hour ago, wizard1 said:

The entire football world is laughing at us today. #1 ranked defense looked like Swiss cheese. Offense was pathetic and was embarrassing . It's time to face the facts about our team. A team of under-achievers , rife with sub-par talent and over-paid half-wits. This is a team poorly coached and should be totally revamped from the top all the way down to the waterboy ( who by the way fell down running out during a break to bring water)

I thought Zeke was running for 200?

[Alice Soefje]

1 hour ago, Steve0x said:

Thats How it is with Baltimore teams. Refs Help Pats, Steelers and Cowboys Refs Screw Terps helping Carrolina & Duke in the ACC.. Umps Help Jays & Red Sox   

People have been claiming for years that Dallas pays off the refs. Happens eveRytime they win a game, and  yet they have not won squat for 20 years. Must have underpaid them. Doesn't sound like Jerry, though. If anything, he is more likely to overpay.

2 hours ago, Inqui said:

That or our discipline just sucks.

But no, it clearly has to be corrupt officials.

Cowboys got lucky all right. That was when they got both a possible franchise quarterback and running back in the sane draft.

[chunkywill25]

Wish we would've ran more. both our guys were productive 

[redrum52]

4 minutes ago, Tank 92 said:

I actually think Zuttah had one of his better games. I chalk up the holding calls to biased officiating(yes, it was clearly biased), and the personal foul was complete horse crap. That said, we do need to replace him. 

Brad Jackson.....oh my.  What a hack.

The personal foul was a stupid play by him and 1 of the holdings was bs.  didn't see a replay for the one on the screen but doubt it was anywhere near as egregious as Carr's no call PI.

[ravefan52]

That was a dumb comment by Flacco and he's getting Crap on for it now. No one cares about excuses

[hen826957]

1 hour ago, wizard1 said:

The entire football world is laughing at us today. #1 ranked defense looked like Swiss cheese. Offense was pathetic and was embarrassing . It's time to face the facts about our team. A team of under-achievers , rife with sub-par talent and over-paid half-wits. This is a team poorly coached and should be totally revamped from the top all the way down to the waterboy ( who by the way fell down running out during a break to bring water)

I don't understand why anyone would be laughing. We put up a good fight against a good team. It's not like we lost 27-0. We probably was there toughest opponent this year. 

Edited November 20, 2016 by hen826957

[Ravensfan23]

Just now, Tank 92 said:

I actually think Zuttah had one of his better games. I chalk up the holding calls to biased officiating(yes, it was clearly biased), and the personal foul was complete horse crap. That said, we do need to replace him. 

I don't think the personal foul was bad. I though it was clearly a foul if nothing more than you needing to be better than that. Dixon was going nowhere at the time of the hit and while play to the whistle is still taught, in today's NFL you have to know that player safe is above all. You have to be smart enough to know that you're team can't afford that type of penalty, Now if Dixon was still fighting for yards than yes, but what Zuttah did was unnecessary, even though it was before the whistle.  He did block well but I just think a message has to be sent with these penalties, even if there is bias calls made. 

[RavensRegime]

If you watched from the point it was 1st & 30, Wright was the victim on 2nd & 3rd down. Then they scored a TD. Then on their last drive before the half, they picked on Wright's side of the field again, which they tie the game 10-10. Look at how far off the defensive backs are on the WRs. And why would you rush 3 against their line? I see why our DL got so tired. They were getting double team, why means no pass rush, so Dak got into a rhythm and their WRs killed us

[ravensnj]

18 minutes ago, Somerset Ravens said:

McCaffrey would do very little behind our offensive line.

McCaffery will be a slot wr. 

[Tank 92]

1 minute ago, Ravensfan23 said:

I don't think the personal foul was bad. I though it was clearly a foul if nothing more than you needing to be better than that. Dixon was going nowhere at the time of the hit and while play to the whistle is still taught, in today's NFL you have to know that player safe is above all. You have to be smart enough to know that you're team can't afford that type of penalty, Now if Dixon was still fighting for yards than yes, but what Zuttah did was unnecessary, even though it was before the whistle.  He did block well but I just think a message has to be sent with these penalties, even if there is bias calls made. 

IDK......Not sure how he could have known Dixon was going nowhere when he started at the guy. Don't see where he did anything wrong.  I'd be interested to hear Harbs' take.

[jazz1988]

I thought the game was actually enjoyable to watch. It obvious the defense missed Jimmy Smith and Doom but for the most part I'm not really mad at this game. I thought Joe Flacco played well  but the penalties consistently hurt the offense.

[nextgen_RavensFan]

17 minutes ago, redrum52 said:

I thought Zeke was running for 200?

LOL he did not even get 100 did he.. And all and all i think even Tavon on Dex was a good as could have been expected. Poor Tavon looked like a highschool kid but he has heart and determination and was always in position but was just not strong enough. 

Good :

Was a great game, very entertaining. We showed we could stop the run

Our run game looks much better

Bad:

Penalties

Referee missed calls

Very Bad

Steelers won... lol

 

[Cillmatic]

2 hours ago, ThatsMyJoeTerback said:

Dean Pees called his worst game of the yea

[Cillmatic]

Sadly, I can't think of a single positive about this game. My man Judon really disappointed me. Perriman's being wasted too.

[nextgen_RavensFan]

Just now, jazz1988 said:

I thought the game was actually enjoyable to watch. It obvious the defense missed Jimmy Smith and Doom but for the most part I'm not really mad at this game. I thought Joe Flacco played well  but the penalties consistently hurt the offense.

I agree and hope the team takes it well, they showed up and gave Dak and Elliot some hard shots as a welcome to the NFL Baltimore style.

[sflegend89]

I trashed the Shareece Wright signing last offseason and everyone was adamant that he was a worthy #2. 

He is who I said he was, a depth player worthy of a roster spot but not anywhere close to a #2 CB in today's NFL. 

It sucks that out of Arrington, Will Davis, and Wright not one of them played sustainably good ball for us. 

[ravensdfan]

19 minutes ago, ravefan52 said:

That was a dumb comment by Flacco and he's getting Crap on for it now. No one cares about excuses

I thought it was pretty honest. I mean, the officiating let Dallas get away with a lot on our receivers tbh. We proved we could hang in the first half. Then for whatever reason, our DC decided to go away from what worked, the offense didn't get the ball enough, plus our OC let up too. I think he's spot on.

[Deflated Football]

1 minute ago, sflegend89 said:

I trashed the Shareece Wright signing last offseason and everyone was adamant that he was a worthy #2. 

He is who I said he was, a depth player worthy of a roster spot but not anywhere close to a #2 CB in today's NFL. 

It sucks that out of Arrington, Will Davis, and Wright not one of them played sustainably good ball for us. 

Yea he needs to not see the field unless it's an emergency. We haven't had a quality number two Corner in so long. Tavon will be a beast in the slot, now Ozzie needs to draft a Corner really high 

[Militant X 1]

37 minutes ago, Tank 92 said:

I actually think Zuttah had one of his better games. I chalk up the holding calls to biased officiating(yes, it was clearly biased), and the personal foul was complete horse crap. That said, we do need to replace him. 

Brad Jackson.....oh my.  What a hack.

A Superbowl winning hack!  Love him! 

[jazz1988]

1 minute ago, sflegend89 said:

I trashed the Shareece Wright signing last offseason and everyone was adamant that he was a worthy #2. 

He is who I said he was, a depth player worthy of a roster spot but not anywhere close to a #2 CB in today's NFL. 

It sucks that out of Arrington, Will Davis, and Wright not one of them played sustainably good ball for us. 

I think Wright played well to go up against Dez Bryant. Not many cornerbacks can contain Dez Bryant and I thought he played well enough . Losing Jimmy Smith was going to hurt. How many number 2 cornerbacks can really contain Dez Bryant ? Not many . 

[Ravensfan23]

11 minutes ago, Tank 92 said:

IDK......Not sure how he could have known Dixon was going nowhere when he started at the guy. Don't see where he did anything wrong.  I'd be interested to hear Harbs' take.

Just got finished watching both Harbs and Flacco's view of the play. I think they both said a combination of what we're both saying. Harbs said he didn't see it and based on what the reporters told him about it, sounds like something that should never happen. Gotta be smarter than that. While Flacco basically said what you're saying, in the heat of the moment it's hard for a guy to knowing everything around him, Zuttah played to the whistle and that's what he's taught. He also hinted to the holding call on the screen being a bit ticky tack as well. 

Honestly I'd have to go back and really look at the play. All i remember was just seeing a Dallas player flying out of my screen and instantly feeling it'd be a penalty on the Ravens somehow. My initial thought was that it was just a clean, hard, physical tone setting play. But than knowing how soft the NFL is now, you just have to be smart there. 

[Wildabeast88]

1 hour ago, ravensnj said:

We chose to pass on Sterling Shepard. Hopefully, Christian McCaffrey will be there for us. He can single handedly keep the Offense going.  

Not if the line doesn't block or Zuttah commits a penalty every other play to bring back the play. We don't need McCaffrey we need pass rush and a C and G. Dixon is the same player as McCaffrey

[Ravens419]

21 minutes ago, jazz1988 said:

I thought the game was actually enjoyable to watch. It obvious the defense missed Jimmy Smith and Doom but for the most part I'm not really mad at this game. I thought Joe Flacco played well  but the penalties consistently hurt the offense.

I agree I thought the team played great minus the second half D but missing Jimmy hurt makes me really appreciate him man but I can't say I think he would've changed it all that much except a few plays cause we weren't getting pressure on Dak period he had all day...  but that's a good cowboys team nothing really changed for us besides the fact that we have another L next week is what it's all about I wanna win these division games Joe is looking great and anyone that can say he was the reason we lost didn't watch the game you just speak to speak I hate seeing all these Ravens fan all over the place saying Joe needs to go after a game like this he has played great for three games straigh he's looking like joe if we make it to the playoffs I really do think we make a push if the offense can keep taking these steps I'm fairly positive for a loss to be honest I think this was a good gage game and I'm not overly down about it