Week 11: The Good, Bad and Ugly post game vent/rant Cowboys

[redrum52]

7 minutes ago, terrynjulia03 said:

Man I right there with you. Pees is exceptionally bad at adjusting. Why he was booted from NE. Some people, who don't know jack about football guess it was a lateral move. Lol. There's been so many facts presented, both on here and rsr, especially from articles and fan posts up there, that the handful of homers still backing him really only embarrass themselves. 

He is very knowledgeable and can create a really really good game plan. But as soon as that goes downhill, he's done. Sooner or later a offense will figure it out. And once they do, that's it. People wonder why Brady and Co would put up 50 points in the first half. They had to. 

I'm sure that the drop in defense when Pees was there had nothing to do with aging vets and guys leaving.  Or the fact that they don't pay guys in NE.  Or the fact that they just happened to take a more offensive approach.

 

What would you say are the weak areas on the defense, besides Pees of course?

[ravensdfan]

On 11/24/2016 at 7:39 PM, The Raven said:

You're precious.

No, I named you because you complain every week about three man rushes, even when we rarely call three man rushes. Nobody complains about them more than you.

Prove it. Find those posts. Because you are full of it. I do NOT complain about 3 man rushes.I mentioned them once in this entire thread (quoted below) and did not use the word "constant" or "all those" or any such thing. I have complained about 3 man rushes in SITUATIONS at times but not continual 3 man rushes. I have complained about constant 4 man rushes. I have complained about not being aggressive. I asked one week if there were more 3 man rushes - because it seemed that way. Guess what? There were. And your "excuse" doesn't hold water. Because what you said was that I spoke of "constant" 3 man rushes THIS week and then said the analysis said there were only 3 of them THIS week. (which was actually not correct). So yeah, trying to make a claim it was because of things said other weeks doesn't cut it.

Take your condescending made up fairytales and again, find another bully target. Because I'll call you on it EVERY SINGLE TIME. I still have not seen you address the myriad of other posters who actually did complain about 3 man rushes. Or who have said exactly what I said about Pees. Why? Because you think you have some sort of buddy back up attacking me. And you don't if you address others. Removing the names, here is just a sampling from this this thread and not one tiny peep from you.

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Dean Pees called his worst game of the year.

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Gave them the Pees special in the second half.  Just embarrassing.  We will never play good defense against a competent team.  10-15 yards off every play does not work and will never work.  That kind of wussy defense is a disgrace to the Ravens name.  Straight garbage.

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Defense played well until Pees started to change his calls. Where was Perriman?

Ugly leaving Elliot/TE's wide open

 

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Also im calling for the Firing of DEAN PEES!

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Pees is to blame for playing this garbage prevent defense, letting the cowboys take the easy short passes and kill our defense, than forcing them to play long, make a mistake.

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Defense is so vanilla that a rookie QB can break it down.

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It looked like in the 2nd half Pees went to his prevent defense. It's like he changed up our defensive schemes that were confusing Dak in the 1st half.

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It's just the prevent and conservative crap. He's been here for a while. He should know better.

 

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Pees got blown out in the second half. 

 

This is why we need a new DC 

 

 

 

On 11/20/2016 at 5:37 PM, ravensdfan said:

Yes because we all clamoured for those 3 man rushes. smh  Please.

And we all asked for those 10 yd cushions when he did decide to bring a blitz - a perfectly obvious one as usual too.

Face it. He was aggressive, though not overly so, the first half. Then 2 mins hit and BAM! typical Pees crap. Then the 2nd half - with the exception of like 4 plays - 3/4 man rushes and huge cushions. He played scared.

 

And if you are going to address what I talk about at least have the courage to actually address me and not be passive aggressive about it by tagging me. I thought you had me blocked and all that jazz? Please feel free to do so again.

Edited November 26, 2016 by ravensdfan

[Tank 92]

Now we're on topic cause that's a rant if I've ever read one.  lol

[ravensdfan]

On 11/23/2016 at 10:19 PM, rmcjacket23 said:

Most of my analysis was based on FilmStudy's review, and I didn't do the All-22 this week (haven't in a few weeks actually), so I'm not the one to help with that.

The only other point that stood out to me from the analysis was yardage allowed vs expected yardage allowed, given the number of rushers.

With 3-4 man rushes, we actually gave up less yardage than expected (140 yards allowed vs 165 yards expected).

With 5+ man rushes, we were a ton worse... 159 yards allowed vs 86 yards expected. We were particularly bad in 5 man rushes. If we rushed 5 and didn't apply pressure, it was a big play almost every time. Could argue that's a big Jimmy Smith-issue, since we're playing mostly nickel coverage there and Jimmy isn't on the field for those snaps.

I get what you're saying about the yardages however, I think those stats are just incomplete without a breakdown by half. Clearly they were not getting those chunks of yardage in the first half, and the eye test (and not just mine, clarifying that for others) says we were more aggressive in the first half. I am just wondering whether it was a case of more conservative play calling leading to a complete breakdown or just a case of nothing working from the start.  I do not have access to that this season either. Next season it is definitely an investment I am making.

 

[redrum52]

52 minutes ago, ravensdfan said:

I get what you're saying about the yardages however, I think those stats are just incomplete without a breakdown by half. Clearly they were not getting those chunks of yardage in the first half, and the eye test (and not just mine, clarifying that for others) says we were more aggressive in the first half. I am just wondering whether it was a case of more conservative play calling leading to a complete breakdown or just a case of nothing working from the start.  I do not have access to that this season either. Next season it is definitely an investment I am making.

 

Their first TD came on a drive where they got a first down on 1st and 30.  Haven't rematched the game, but pretty sure most of the pressure we did get early was on unblocked defenders.  Chunk yards were being gained, I think, from the middle of the 2nd on.  He sent pressure, but it doesn't mean squat if it doesn't get there.  It does no good when you have 5'10 and shorter defenders 1-1 vs 6'2 + receivers on an island.  

 

[ravensdfan]

9 hours ago, redrum52 said:

Their first TD came on a drive where they got a first down on 1st and 30.  Haven't rematched the game, but pretty sure most of the pressure we did get early was on unblocked defenders.  Chunk yards were being gained, I think, from the middle of the 2nd on.  He sent pressure, but it doesn't mean squat if it doesn't get there.  It does no good when you have 5'10 and shorter defenders 1-1 vs 6'2 + receivers on an island.  

 

Yeah 1st and 30 was bad, bad, bad. That is a breakdown but nothing completely consistent. It is difficult to assess because in the final 2 mins of the half Pees did back off. With them only needing a FG to tie, that is not smart situational football. Again, it is only the eye test, but it did seem like everything fell apart from there. Just was curious how the breakdown came about.

Not even angry about the loss itself really. Dallas is just a darn good football team. They were going to put up points and going to make yards. But, zero punts in the 2nd half and a total failure defensively is something that falls on coaching. That 1st and 30 was the drive right before their final drive before the half. So it makes me curious if that is when Pees decided to play scared.

[CalvinSmoke]

7 minutes ago, ravensdfan said:

Yeah 1st and 30 was bad, bad, bad. That is a breakdown but nothing completely consistent. It is difficult to assess because in the final 2 mins of the half Pees did back off. With them only needing a FG to tie, that is not smart situational football. Again, it is only the eye test, but it did seem like everything fell apart from there. Just was curious how the breakdown came about.

Not even angry about the loss itself really. Dallas is just a darn good football team. They were going to put up points and going to make yards. But, zero punts in the 2nd half and a total failure defensively is something that falls on coaching. That 1st and 30 was the drive right before their final drive before the half. So it makes me curious if that is when Pees decided to play scared.

It was down hill from that 1st and 30. They scored from that possession and I'm I believe. Not another punt was attempted 

[52520Andrew]

On 11/22/2016 at 10:02 AM, rmw10 said:

I was slightly hopeful after his 1 big game this year, but we haven't seen anything close to that since. 

I am just happy he is playing to be honest

[redrum52]

1 hour ago, ravensdfan said:

Yeah 1st and 30 was bad, bad, bad. That is a breakdown but nothing completely consistent. It is difficult to assess because in the final 2 mins of the half Pees did back off. With them only needing a FG to tie, that is not smart situational football. Again, it is only the eye test, but it did seem like everything fell apart from there. Just was curious how the breakdown came about.

Not even angry about the loss itself really. Dallas is just a darn good football team. They were going to put up points and going to make yards. But, zero punts in the 2nd half and a total failure defensively is something that falls on coaching. That 1st and 30 was the drive right before their final drive before the half. So it makes me curious if that is when Pees decided to play scared.

I'm not defending him or the defense for 2nd half play becauae it was awful, but against good OL we've struggled severely, especially in the 2nd half with pressure.  I don't expect edge pressure to get there to be honest but expect more from Jernigan on the interior.  there's not much you can do when the qb seems to have 6-8 seconds to throw, even when facing a blitz.  since 14 we haven't had guys beating their 1-1 assignments up front.  If the blitz scheme doesn't work, IE tricking the front or guys timing to damn near perfection, we can't rely on our guys to win, it seems.  I personally just don't see how we can blame him for that, but we can agree to disagree.

[terrynjulia03]

23 hours ago, redrum52 said:

I'm sure that the drop in defense when Pees was there had nothing to do with aging vets and guys leaving.  Or the fact that they don't pay guys in NE.  Or the fact that they just happened to take a more offensive approach.

 

What would you say are the weak areas on the defense, besides Pees of course?

Take a look. It didn't. During his time the only big name guy they brought in on offense was Moss. However they continued to invest in D adding Revis along with secondary help. Sound familiar?  Also if you Google the complaints out of Boston from his later years there it's the same thing, second half collapses in the secondary because the pass rush wasn't existent and was being nullified. Hence they went and spent heavily on the secondary his second to last year there, which carried over to his last. And it was still the same thing. 

 

As for the "weak" areas across the D. FS, Webb just doesn't have the legs anymore. Thin at "effective" corner. We lost a few that we had hopes on. Wright was never supposed to be a starter, and he's shown why he's never been. And a pass rush that can't beat their one on ones. ZSmith was touted as the next McPhee and a situational pass rusher. Now he's being called a Upshaw and just setting the edge. Who knows what happened to Urban, and Judson seems to have the tools but doesn't put it together consistently, and Correa has done jack squat. 

[codizzle]

19 hours ago, Tank 92 said:

Now we're on topic cause that's a rant if I've ever read one.  lol

Never piss a woman off.. message board or not 

 

that's my motto 

[Militant X 1]

4 hours ago, codizzle said:

Never piss a woman off.. message board or not 

 

that's my motto 

I'm serious!