Week 11: The Good, Bad and Ugly post game vent/rant Cowboys

[mhedge]

17 hours ago, Steve0x said:

ITS RIGGED!!!!   Refs will do anything to screw Ravens. NFL wants to help Steelers get right back into it

Not that I totally agree, but if you check the standings, Pittsburg is on top even though we lead by at least the top 3 tie-breakers. Head to head, Division and in conference wins.

[VermontRaven]

9 minutes ago, mhedge said:

Not that I totally agree, but if you check the standings, Pittsburg is on top even though we lead by at least the top 3 tie-breakers. Head to head, Division and in conference wins.

Curious as to which standing you are referring to.  Both ESPN.com and NFL.com have us on top:

http://www.espn.com/nfl/standings

http://www.nfl.com/standings

[Willbacker]

They put Yanda at LG which I thought was genius cuz I'm sure the Cowpokes were expecting him on the other side. Successfully ran against them. Thump thump thump thump and then lets air it out cuz we foolin them. I just really don't get it.

The D again could not make the big stop but you know........... Dez is a beast! but Beasley..... They were who we thought they were lol.

Was anybody else annoyed by Elliot's camara rolling after every 1st down?

[rmcjacket23]

Just now, Willbacker said:

They put Yanda at LG which I thought was genius cuz I'm sure the Cowpokes were expecting him on the other side. Successfully ran against them. Thump thump thump thump and then lets air it out cuz we foolin them. I just really don't get it.

The D again could not make the big stop but you know........... Dez is a beast! but Beasley..... They were who we thought they were lol.

Was anybody else annoyed by Elliot's camara rolling after every 1st down?

He wasn't making a "camera rolling" gesture...

[Willbacker]

7 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

He wasn't making a "camera rolling" gesture...

What was it?  You cant leave somebody hanging like that lol

[Tank 92]

Just now, Willbacker said:

What was it?  You cant leave somebody hanging like that lol

feed me

[Willbacker]

1 minute ago, Tank 92 said:

feed me

Got it.

[Ravens4Real]

PFF actually graded Wright out to be our best DB yesterday. Speaks to the games the other 3 had that no one noticed.

[Star Power]

Cowboy fan!  I read these boards prior to this game and actually tried to sign up Saturday to respond to some posts.   Now when I got home from work last night my email had the confirmation so this morning I decided to post some enemy thoughts/insights.

 

Pretty disappointed to see a lot of Raven fans (actually most) blaming officiating for the loss.  I do agree that Carr (CB #39) did hold interfere/hold in the EZ.  Totally not called/missed.   There are phantom holding calls every game and holding can be called every play.  Last week against the Stealers we had consecutive play calls on the O-line and a phantom call on a long run by Elliot.  And yes, sometimes I feel we are targeted by the zebras.  Can almost guarantee when we play the NY Gnats(in NJ) on Dec 11 our team will have to overcome such.  On the PF against Zuttah(sp?) the runner was locked up by 3 other tacklers and replacement SS Wilcox had stopped and was not engaging the pile when the O-Linemen drilled him.  I absolutely thought there coulda been a personal foul on the Cow's 1st TD to Beasley when Prescott was contacted 2-3 steps after releasing the ball and then driven out of bounds and driven into the ground by one of the Baltimore LB's.  Pretty dirty play on our star player and no flag.  That's the game though. Long and short of it the game wasn't stolen from your team and its weak say so, 99% of the time, to blame officiating for a loss.  Once in the while there is one call that directly takes away from the game.  Also we , as fans, always see things from a different and many time jilted perspective.

 

Now, my take on the ebb and flow of the game.  As I posted on the game time board I was engaged in I thought  Baltimore   brought the wood on both sides of the ball.  Dallas adjustment shut down the Raven run game making Flacco throw which I thought he did well.  Was really impressed with Wallace, #17, as far as speed and run after the catch.   I think 2nd half adjustments made the Cow's offense start to click.  Many on here blame your D but I think they just got out-schemed.  Not necessarily a talent thing, maybe a depth thing though as your D wore down towards the end of the game.

 

Dallas' coaching staff has shown the propensity to play it conservative in the 1st half and change things/open it up more in the 2nd.  Most of our games we've been behind or tied at the half then we distance ourselves from the opposition.  This tactic prevents the other team from making effective 2nd half adjustments,  One adjustment that allowed Elliot to become more effective in the 2nd half was he started breaking outside (especially on the offensive right side) with the O-line congesting the middle, setting the edge, and Zeke breaking outside making the safeties make the play.  Your safeties are good tacklers.  Another new twist was the use of Witten (TE) in the 2nd half.  I don't remember him being targeted in the 1st half.

 

I also read  lot of lamentations on CB Smith being out of the game being an outcome changer.  You guys were aware our best CB , Mo Claiborne,  and 5 year starting SS Barry Church both missed the game with injuries.  Injuries are part of the game, it sucks as far as us fans are concerned because we want our teams to have their best shot at winning but that's not the way the game goes.  Our starting left guard( La'el Collins ) and his backup(Chaz Green) are out for the O-line. I see Baltimore winning the AFC North if Flacco continues to perform like he did against us.  I think the Stealers are not as strong of a team ... hell, we played both on back to back Sundays and the Ravens seemed tougher.  Stealer defense is suspect and one of their TD's against us was pretty cheesey on the fake grounding play!  Our 1st game with our patched up secondary too.

 

Good luck to the Raven team and fans

Edited November 21, 2016 by Star Power

[usmccharles]

When Jimmy was designated doubtful I immediately was dreading this game and thought we were going to lose.  But the lack of offense is really hurting us, we needed to control the clock, but we couldn't run the ball.  They are just a better team and I think this is who we are this year. 

[drillem]

Ironically, there were coaches in other games complaining about the officiating yesterday.   With this parity thing, these games can so easily be decided by the refs.  And the season's results can be determined by the NFL as a result.  I realize more than ever how 'pro football' has become 'entertainment'  The need to pump fans in a particular city can be accomplished easily to produce the desired 'ratings' and income.   Maybe next season they will 'turn on' the refs in favor of our team and we will win everything.  Ratings are king.  

[rlh445]

I know it's petty but I hope the Cowboys do awfully in the post season this year.

[usmccharles]

6 minutes ago, rlh445 said:

I know it's petty but I hope the Cowboys do awfully in the post season this year.

Not petty at all.  I hope they don't win a playoff game so the drought continues. 

[Steve0x]

I apologize for my rant guys,,Im just so upset the way they lost yesterday. I agree with some of the players post game comments. They should have won but they let them get off the hook.   

[Steve0x]

1 hour ago, drillem said:

Ironically, there were coaches in other games complaining about the officiating yesterday.   With this parity thing, these games can so easily be decided by the refs.  And the season's results can be determined by the NFL as a result.  I realize more than ever how 'pro football' has become 'entertainment'  The need to pump fans in a particular city can be accomplished easily to produce the desired 'ratings' and income.   Maybe next season they will 'turn on' the refs in favor of our team and we will win everything.  Ratings are king.  

Just like the Redskins at Baltimore was decided by refs.

[codizzle]

1 hour ago, rlh445 said:

I know it's petty but I hope the Cowboys do awfully in the post season this year.

They will.. rookie QB and a defense with no pass rush 

OL is only thing that can save them in postseason 

[Steve0x]

20 hours ago, jimmypowder said:

Pees got blown out in the second half. 

 

This is why we need a new DC 

Agreed...Why they haven't fired him yet?

 

Edited November 21, 2016 by Steve0x

[rmcjacket23]

2 minutes ago, Steve0x said:

Agreed...Why they haven't fired him yet?

 

Because firing coaches doesn't solve personnel problems.

[rmcjacket23]

5 minutes ago, Steve0x said:

Just like the Redskins at Baltimore was decided by refs.

Or the Ravens inability to move the football against a bad defense.

[Steve0x]

Should Ozzie take the blame too?? He let a lot of players go,, Like Ngata and Will Demps. So Mr Biscotti give him a warning if we fail make the playoffs? He ether get more talented players and if we don't make playoffs next year he's gone! And he can take the job in Cleveland. 

Edited November 21, 2016 by Steve0x

[trevorsteadman]

2 hours ago, Ravens4Real said:

PFF actually graded Wright out to be our best DB yesterday. Speaks to the games the other 3 had that no one noticed.

Wright did alright. It was Powers and Young who was consistently beat. I can't count how many times I saw Powers get outran and lost in coverage yesterday.

[trevorsteadman]

Jimmy Smith is the most important player on the team. I have been preaching this all year. He is one of the best cornerbacks in the league. Yesterday would have completely been different with him there. Also anybody notice the lack of aggressive play calling in the 2nd half? 1st half the team did well and then the 2nd the team let every ball be caught? 

[usmccharles]

7 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

Jimmy Smith is the most important player on the team. I have been preaching this all year. He is one of the best cornerbacks in the league. Yesterday would have completely been different with him there. Also anybody notice the lack of aggressive play calling in the 2nd half? 1st half the team did well and then the 2nd the team let every ball be caught? 

I think him or Suggs hold this team together.  If either one of them go down, every other aspect will suffer. 

[arnie_uk]

7 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

Jimmy Smith is the most important player on the team. I have been preaching this all year. He is one of the best cornerbacks in the league. Yesterday would have completely been different with him there. Also anybody notice the lack of aggressive play calling in the 2nd half? 1st half the team did well and then the 2nd the team let every ball be caught? 

I actually thought he was too agressive at times. We blitzed quite and bit and hit on none of them.

[usmccharles]

1 minute ago, arnie_uk said:

I actually thought he was too agressive at times. We blitzed quite and bit and hit on none of them.

1 sack....damn

[redrum52]

2 hours ago, Ravens4Real said:

PFF actually graded Wright out to be our best DB yesterday. Speaks to the games the other 3 had that no one noticed.

I hate to actually defend him, but I don't think he played that bad.  he was usually in position.  a lot of the catches he was there and it was just a good play by both qb and wr.

[redrum52]

22 minutes ago, Steve0x said:

Should Ozzie take the blame too?? He let a lot of players go,, Like Ngata and Will Demps. So Mr Biscotti give him a warning if we fail make the playoffs? He ether get more talented players and if we don't make playoffs next year he's gone! And he can take the job in Cleveland. 

... did you really just use Will Demps as an example of a bad non re-sign?  Ngata contract was too much and we had Williams.

[codizzle]

19 minutes ago, redrum52 said:

... did you really just use Will Demps as an example of a bad non re-sign?  Ngata contract was too much and we had Williams.

Haha I was leaving that one for someone else 

[jazz1988]

9 hours ago, January J said:

What happened to  hurry up offense that worked so well last week? Did we use it at all?

Not really. I don't think that would have been the best choice any way. The chances of things not going well could have happened and it just  only puts the defense back on the field faster if it does. Keepingsthe defense fresh  should have been important plan in this game especially when going up against Ezekiel Elliot.

Edited November 21, 2016 by jazz1988

[redrum52]

7 minutes ago, codizzle said:

Haha I was leaving that one for someone else 

I feel like some members huff paint before they decide to post.