Week 11: The Good, Bad and Ugly post game vent/rant Cowboys

[rmcjacket23]

24 minutes ago, Cillmatic said:

Sadly, I can't think of a single positive about this game. My man Judon really disappointed me. Perriman's being wasted too.

I can. I thought we were the better team for most of the 1st half. 

This team a month ago gets blown out by 20-30 points. 

Frankly, I didn't really think we played that bad, and a lot of the media I'm reading seems to agree. We got beat by a better, more talented team, but they are clearly not miles ahead of us.

 

[Militant X 1]

When I mentioned that I personally "preferred" the taller and more physical DB's to all of these short cats (i.e. 5'9, 5'10 etc.), some were quick to rush to their defense as though I was saying that you couldn't be a good CB if you're short.  Wrong!  And although many of them have played poorly as well...my personal reason for liking the bigger DB's (6'1, 6'2, 6'3 etc.) is based upon what we clearly saw today from 6'2 Dez Bryant.  He pissed all over 2 of the "short" DB's.  He backed down 5'11 Wright in the endzone for one TD and then skull dragged 5'10 Powers in the endzone for another one.

Sure, Dez is a pro bowler and a beast and they are not the best CB's on our roster.  Oh wait...that'd be #22 6'2 Jimmy Smith! 

[rmcjacket23]

42 minutes ago, hen826957 said:

I don't understand why anyone would be laughing. We put up a good fight against a good team. It's not like we lost 27-0. We probably was there toughest opponent this year. 

Nobody is laughing. He's making crap up like he always does because he makes bad predictions and doesn't actually watch games.

 

[Ravensfan23]

18 minutes ago, nextgen_RavensFan said:

I agree and hope the team takes it well, they showed up and gave Dak and Elliot some hard shots as a welcome to the NFL Baltimore style.

This team isn't gonna take it well and I love it. I agree it was a good game, but listening to Flacco, Harbs and CJ they all said the same things about the loss. There are no moral victories and they definitely should have beaten that team. The Ravens players had no doubt they were the better team and they feel self inflicting wounds caused the loss. 

Imo this was a playoff level game and the Ravens showed they just aren't there yet. You can't make the type of mistakes the Ravens did and expect to beat teams that are equal to you. Clean that up and the Ravens have something imo. 

[rmcjacket23]

1 minute ago, Militant X 1 said:

When I mentioned that I personally "preferred" the taller and more physical DB's to all of these short cats (i.e. 5'9, 5'10 etc.), some were quick to rush to their defense as though I was saying that you couldn't be a good CB if you're short.  Wrong!  And although many of them have played poorly as well...my personal reason for liking the bigger DB's (6'1, 6'2, 6'3 etc.) is based upon what we clearly saw today from 6'2 Dez Bryant.  He pissed all over 2 of the "short" DB's.  He backed down 5'11 Wright in the endzone for one TD and then skull dragged 5'10 Powers in the endzone for another one.

Sure, Dez is a pro bowler and a beast and they are not the best CB's on our roster.  Oh wait...that'd be #22 6'2 Jimmy Smith! 

Yes, in general, teams like taller corners.

If you find a tall corner (6'0" or so) and they're even halfway decent, they're usually getting drafted in the 1st or 2nd round, so that's normally where you have to get those players. They're arguably one of the highest demand players in the entire NFL.

Tavon Young is clearly a better corner than Wright, but Young doesn't have the size to cover a Bryant or AJ Green, and everybody knows that.

[Ravens419]

Nothing drives me nuts more then anyone someone who talks about the game like they watched it but didn't and you always can tell when someone hasn't or maybe I just invest too much time into this team and it gets under my skin idk lol

[January J]

20 minutes ago, Cillmatic said:

Sadly, I can't think of a single positive about this game. My man Judon really disappointed me. Perriman's being wasted too.

How about Steve smith?  That's about it for me.

First quarter looked great. Jumped out and took the lead. Defense was shutting them down, running game was rolling and offensive line was humming... Then all of a sudden its like we hit a brick wall. Right around the time they converted the 1st and 30. 

I will NEVER understand why we give receivers so much cushion. It is basically handing them a first down every time. Its so frustrating.

Where were the tight ends? Where was Peirce and jernigan? Wright is wright- saw that coming soon as I noticed jimmy was inactive. Zuttah cost us. Seems like everytime juice converts a big first down it gets nullified. Its happened like a dozen times this year.  Hester needs to be released immediately. If this wasn't his last game as a raven I don't know what the heck they are looking at. He is a liability every single time he goes back to feild a punt. Penalties and no turnovers is what lost us this game. Along with the play of wright. For some reason our dB's don't know how to just turn around and find the ball. I'll never understand iit. 

Congrats to Steve sr. 

Next week is an absolute must win. If we can't beat them with no aj green then this team doesn't deserve to go to the playoffs. Lets hope we can bounce back and hold onto our lead in the north. Lookin like its gonna come down to Christmas day @ Pittsburgh.

[Ravens419]

And to add to that most of you are so negative I see you talk to high and positive when we win then we lose one and this team is terrible and we suck it's one game that doesn't matter all that much in the big picture it would be awesome to have this W but next week is what matters 

[Militant X 1]

23 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Yes, in general, teams like taller corners.

If you find a tall corner (6'0" or so) and they're even halfway decent, they're usually getting drafted in the 1st or 2nd round, so that's normally where you have to get those players. They're arguably one of the highest demand players in the entire NFL.

Tavon Young is clearly a better corner than Wright, but Young doesn't have the size to cover a Bryant or AJ Green, and everybody knows that.

I couldn't agree more!  

Even 6'3 Brice Butler caught a nice pass over Wright.

I absolutely love the bigger DB's and know that they are extremely hard to get.  Just wish we had at least 2 more of them on our roster to mix in with these smaller cats to match up with these taller receivers though. 

Edited November 21, 2016 by Militant X 1

[Ravensfan23]

57 minutes ago, Tank 92 said:

IDK......Not sure how he could have known Dixon was going nowhere when he started at the guy. Don't see where he did anything wrong.  I'd be interested to hear Harbs' take.

So after going back to watch the play, I have to agree with you. The guy that Zuttah blew up was actively trying to tackle Dixon and Zuttah was well within the rules to hit that guy. Whistle hadn't blown and the play was still actively being played out. In fact #74 arrived to the play at the same time as Zuttah, he hit Dixon while Zuttah he the other guy. So there was nothing illegal or unnecessary about what Zutth did. I stand corrected. 

[Tank 92]

48 minutes ago, Militant X 1 said:

A Superbowl winning hack!  Love him! 

He was on the team, yeah.  lol  Had zero to do with the victory.

Brad's as dumb as a box of rocks and a horrible "analyst" or whatever he's supposed to be. I record the post game shows and just fast forward whenever he opens his mouth.   

[Inqui]

1 hour ago, Alice Soefje said:

People have been claiming for years that Dallas pays off the refs. Happens eveRytime they win a game, and  yet they have not won squat for 20 years. Must have underpaid them. Doesn't sound like Jerry, though. If anything, he is more likely to overpay.

Cowboys got lucky all right. That was when they got both a possible franchise quarterback and running back in the sane draft.

I'm really high on that Cowboys OL - like really really high on it. Not to take anything away from Dak - who clearly has the tools to succeed and the Dallas staff liked enough to use a draft pick on him, and it's worth bearing in mind that he did far more to pull us apart than Zeke did - but with that OL and with Dez Bryant and Jason Witten to throw to he's in a really good position to succeed. It shows how important a player's situation is when you contrast that with another rookie who people think has a higher ceiling in Carson Wentz, who's been in more of a slump these past few weeks.

[Inqui]

27 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Tavon Young is clearly a better corner than Wright, but Young doesn't have the size to cover a Bryant or AJ Green, and everybody knows that.

On the bright side, he won't have to next week. 

[FlocksGottaFeed]

17 minutes ago, Ravensfan23 said:

So after going back to watch the play, I have to agree with you. The guy that Zuttah blew up was actively trying to tackle Dixon and Zuttah was well within the rules to hit that guy. Whistle hadn't blown and the play was still actively being played out. In fact #74 arrived to the play at the same time as Zuttah, he hit Dixon while Zuttah he the other guy. So there was nothing illegal or unnecessary about what Zutth did. I stand corrected. 

 

Now, take that call and throw-in the Zuttah phantom holding call when Joe left the pocket and playback the real holding call that wasn't called on the Beasley touchdown when Dak left the pocket. Big plays - big game altering decisions all around. Just not consistent by any measure.

Edited November 21, 2016 by FlocksGottaFeed
the Zuttah phantom holding call when Joe left the pocket

[DomMcRaven]

I guess the only "good" was how many Ravens fans I could hear/see in attendance. That was pretty cool. 

[gjbflaraven]

The Good: 1st quarter

The Bad: 2nd - 4th quarter

The Ugly: Pitta's attempt at blocking

[Moderator 2]

The Cowboys had the ball 14 plus mins the second half, how was that Flacco's fault he didn't score?  I make it a point to  not Blame the refs, but Flacco's eye was almost encucleated due to eye gouging and  there were several muggings.

[kjbmore]

not getting too down here - we were never winning this without jimmy

offense needs to do whatever the hell it needs to do to get rolling, we need steve smith back again next year

im hoping this was / is ozzies master plan - 2 year process, whatever we achieve this year is a bonus - we're not winning a sb so.... enjoy each win and success of individual players

draft is deep at pass rusher and cb this year -  we spend early picks on both and our reasonably stout defense gets an upgrade, where its sorely required and then we beef up the line and hopefully thats the key to our offensive woes, get the run game on track - steady production, hopefully we can see something on that side of the ball -

another game in the books - when required - our offense is doo doo, no where to be found, be nice to actually see something when called upon

 

 

[Tank 92]

24 minutes ago, Ravensfan23 said:

So after going back to watch the play, I have to agree with you. The guy that Zuttah blew up was actively trying to tackle Dixon and Zuttah was well within the rules to hit that guy. Whistle hadn't blown and the play was still actively being played out. In fact #74 arrived to the play at the same time as Zuttah, he hit Dixon while Zuttah he the other guy. So there was nothing illegal or unnecessary about what Zutth did. I stand corrected. 

 

8 minutes ago, FlocksGottaFeed said:

 

Now, take that call and throw-in the Zuttah phantom holding call when Joe left the pocket and playback the real holding call that wasn't called on the Beasley touchdown when Dak left the pocket. Big plays - big game altering decisions all around. Just not consistent by any measure.

Many of the calls, including the ones on Zuttah, killed drives and robbed momentum. Gotta believe the Good Guys win today if not for the biased officiating. Not an excuse for bad play, just an honest observation.

[Tank 92]

51 minutes ago, Ravens419 said:

Nothing drives me nuts more then anyone someone who talks about the game like they watched it but didn't and you always can tell when someone hasn't or maybe I just invest too much time into this team and it gets under my skin idk lol

Yeah, it's not hard to figure out who they are. Best just to ignore them.  

[Tank 92]

7 minutes ago, DomMcRaven said:

I guess the only "good" was how many Ravens fans I could hear/see in attendance. That was pretty cool. 

A guy that works for me went down with a group of 16.   Sorry they weren't rewarded with a victory, but at least we didn't lay an egg.

[FlocksGottaFeed]

1 minute ago, Tank 92 said:

 

Many of the calls, including the ones on Zuttah, killed drives and robbed momentum. Gotta believe the Good Guys win today if not for the biased officiating. Not an excuse for bad play, just an honest observation.

Our guys barely stood a chance today thanks to that and the NFL lost an opportunity to have what would have been one of the best games of the season.

[Ravens419]

The officiating in this game blew me away too so many penalties not called on Dallas that were obvious even the casters were surprised on some but that's what you can expect in jerrys world what it comes down to is we didn't get pressure on Dak and Jimmy was out Shareece is a liability back there and it hurts me to watch we need to keep Jimmy healthy and I'm serious when I say Joe is heating up and I think this bengals game is where we break out on offense reminds me a lot of that 2013 year ? But god knows I can't be too optimistic here might be called a homer 

[FlocksGottaFeed]

Just now, Tank 92 said:

A guy that works for me went down with a group of 16.   Sorry they weren't rewarded with a victory, but at least we didn't lay an egg.

My brother and niece were there and just the reports of things that were out of the broadcast cameras eyes were...(clean it up)....questionable.

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

Time to wake up Ravens!!! We are still in the playoff mix. Not for long if they keep shooting themselves in the foot.

[Ravensfan23]

17 minutes ago, FlocksGottaFeed said:

 

Now, take that call and throw-in the Zuttah phantom holding call when Joe left the pocket and playback the real holding call that wasn't called on the Beasley touchdown when Dak left the pocket. Big plays - big game altering decisions all around. Just not consistent by any measure.

The officiating was definitely inconsistent in this game. I thought the missed DPI vs Wallace was a huge one. The Ravens had just scored and the Cowboys showed no signs of being able to stop this offense. If that call is made, or better yet if Wallace isn't held and allowed to run to the ball. The Ravens have a first down at midfield with a real threat of taking a double digit lead. 

[Edgar]

 

Joe had one good drive by my estimation. He had no touch on anything deep today. Didn't seem to be under pressure but seems to feel it even when it isn't there.

He opted not to audible out of a run call in the second quarter with time on the clock...not sure how Joe can see eight defenders up on the line anticipating a run and not check out of it. Lost three yards on the play.

Joe is very deliberate getting the ball to the backs. Positively lackadaisical on the final drive.

Aiken needed to stay in bounds on the final drive of half one. If he does there likely won't be time for Dallas to drive.

Steve Smith is incredible. No Perriman?..Tight ends?

It's clear to me that Hester has no interest in playing football other than collecting his check.

Dallas is better than us right now...hard to argue that convincingly.

 

 

[Tank 92]

3 minutes ago, Ravensfan23 said:

The officiating was definitely inconsistent in this game. I thought the missed DPI vs Wallace was a huge one. The Ravens had just scored and the Cowboys showed no signs of being able to stop this offense. If that call is made, or better yet if Wallace isn't held and allowed to run to the ball. The Ravens have a first down at midfield with a real threat of taking a double digit lead. 

That and the non call on Aiken just before our second TD were more than obvious. Thinking that would probably have been the same back judge, opposite side of the field going the other way. 

[FlocksGottaFeed]

1 minute ago, Ravensfan23 said:

The officiating was definitely inconsistent in this game. I thought the missed DPI vs Wallace was a huge one. The Ravens had just scored and the Cowboys showed no signs of being able to stop this offense. If that call is made, or better yet if Wallace isn't held and allowed to run to the ball. The Ravens have a first down at midfield with a real threat of taking a double digit lead. 

That's the thing. On the most obvious missed calls, no calls and 'big' calls, big momentum shifts and big splash plays resulted, but not in our favor. Off the cuff (will document later) at least 3 drive killing 1st downs for us (huge) and at least 1 touchdown that should have been called-back for them. That's a killer. 

[Militant X 1]

33 minutes ago, Tank 92 said:

He was on the team, yeah.  lol  Had zero to do with the victory.

Brad's as dumb as a box of rocks and a horrible "analyst" or whatever he's supposed to be. I record the post game shows and just fast forward whenever he opens his mouth.   

Not me!

I love listening to Brad break it down and tell it like it is every time he opens his mouth.

"The reverend!"