[News] Late For Work 11/17: Can Ravens Shock NFL World And Upset Cowboys?

[metalraven]

No matter how long the Ravens are in existence they will be the forever hated, whipping boys of the NFL. Whether people want to fault Art Modell for moving the Browns and are carrying that grudge, or the people who want to hate us for Ray Lewis, or Ray Rice, or the most un-elite/elite QB in the history of the game, to John Harbaugh who happens to be Jims brother who everyone seems to dislike to Steve Smith who just makes everyone mad. It doesn't matter what we do, how we play, or whatever, there will always be the pundits who hate us. We could have the number 1 offense in every stat, the number 1 defense in every stat and the pundits would find a way to justify placing the Ravens 10th on every power listing. WHO CARES. These pundits probably know less than the average Ravens fan and is going to make prognostications based on a couple of lines they read from another pundit who doesnt know anything about the Ravens.

People laughed when we said we would shut down LeVeon Bell and Antonio Brown to beat the Steelers. Our own local radio talk show beat us up all Steelers week saying we didn't stand a chance and it will be the same this week. However, the Cowboys look very much like the 2008 Ravens. Great running back, some good pass catchers, rookie QB who can do just what he needs to do to win,etc... Best way to beat us back then, stop the run and put the game on Joes back. Thats what we do to the Cowboys. Shut down Elliott completely and make Prescott win the game. Maybe he will, maybe he won't, but I won't be surprised in the least if the Ravens come away with a 3 point win, not surprised at all.

I remember a couple other years where we were counted out, had some losing streaks, got hot late, started to produce, Joe got hot, we got in the playoffs and the rest is history.

Well stated

[metalraven]

People keep saying we'll win if Joe does this or Joe does that...how about this - what if the O-line actually provides our QB with some pass protection; how about they provide some run blocking; how about the OL not have so many stupid penalties!!!

This game will be won in the trenches - be it the OL or the DL - those two groups need to have a damn near flawless game. IF they can it will allow everything else to fall in to place, if not we'll see what we saw in those 4 game losing streak!

Ya, that's right. No accountability for Joe. smh

[metalraven]

Shock the world? The Cowboys have been a little overrated....if you look at their first 9 games it was a pretty weak schedule. Only top defense they played was against the Packers (which I don't believe is that good anyway). If our defense punches them in the mouth Sunday, they will fold.

Look at the crap teams we've played, and we're still only 5-4. I believe we can win; but anybody has a chance in this league. Comparing schedules doesn't mean anything.

[metalraven]

6 hours ago, eze17 said:

8 hours ago, dirtybird66 said:

if any team can i'd say the ravens can beat the cowboys,IF,FLACCO brings his A game.also IF only we would of assured the cowboys we were taking RAMSEY,we would of got him,a total BLUNDER by the ravens staff,we would of had another MARCUS PETERS,now we have a lineman that can't run block in this league.

Kind of early to make any predictions, isn't it? Ramsey=Peters? In whose fantasy world is that real? Ramsey hasn't looked bad, but he's not exactly been a game changer either, so let's wait and see before proclaiming the guy the second coming of Neon Sanders...And how are you saying its a major mistake for drafting Stanley? Almost every lineman in NFL history has taken at least a year to make the transition from college to pros. Its not as easy as you seem to believe. More so with two rookies starting besides each other, but that's a different complaint then just saying the guy's a bum. pretty much all o-lineman go through an adjustment period. So I'll wait to make a judgement call...you may be proven correct, but at this point you're simply over reaching to lay blame on the front office with no justification.

Agreed. Picking one of the top 2 tackles in college in the first round should NOT be considered a blunder. Besides, he's actually done quite well. He'll grow, and if he stays healthy, he'll become a top tackle in the NFL.

Edited November 18, 2016 by metalraven

[FlocksGottaFeed]

Shock the World? That's funny. Most of Cowboys Nation don't even know who they're playing week-to-week. For example, this is their official posting on the Cowboys website:

"The Ravens enter Sunday’s game as a somewhat streaky teams, having won their first three games to get to 3-0, before losing five straight games. After 42 calendar days without a win, which included the entire month of October, the Ravens finally got back on track with a victory over the Steelers, and then last week against the Browns...."

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2016/11/15/big-picture-cowboys-looking-make-history-multiple-ways-vs-baltimore

Based on that we are currently 5-5. I'll be shocked if they get the math right when we're 6-4 after this one. How bout that Cowboys?

GO Ravens!!! We got this.

Edited November 18, 2016 by FlocksGottaFeed
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[CQ1]

  8 hours ago, ibleedpurpleandblack said:

People keep saying we'll win if Joe does this or Joe does that...how about this - what if the O-line actually provides our QB with some pass protection; how about they provide some run blocking; how about the OL not have so many stupid penalties!!!

This game will be won in the trenches - be it the OL or the DL - those two groups need to have a damn near flawless game. IF they can it will allow everything else to fall in to place, if not we'll see what we saw in those 4 game losing streak!

Ya, that's right. No accountability for Joe. smh

Joe has stunk it up many a time- even with a healthy offensive line.

[AZRaven520]

OHHH MAN!!!.. Can't wait for Sunday. We get to see if our defense is as good as the stats say they are. I believe they are and hope they prove it.

With Doom potentially coming back for this game.. I hope they give these rookies a proper defensive welcome to the NFL!!

[Rav'n Maniac]

When the clock reads zero and the dust settles we'll see who is standing tall.

[Rav'n Maniac]

I hope they do something for SSS when he makes his 1000 catch. Go get your 3 Steve. Wait, why stop there, go get yourself 13.

[sizzlingdoom]

This game should be a Sunday night or Monday and let the Ravens Players show the NFL how NUTS they are.

That's alright. We don't want respect until February.

[playlikeawhat]

21 hours ago, ibleedpurpleandblack said:

People keep saying we'll win if Joe does this or Joe does that...how about this - what if the O-line actually provides our QB with some pass protection; how about they provide some run blocking; how about the OL not have so many stupid penalties!!!

This game will be won in the trenches - be it the OL or the DL - those two groups need to have a damn near flawless game. IF they can it will allow everything else to fall in to place, if not we'll see what we saw in those 4 game losing streak!

Now now, no use in asking stat groupies to hold more than one player accountable for wins and losses.  That's too much like sanity.  Easier to blame the QB and contract numbers for game results.  The nerve of this request for rational thought.  Sheesh.

[ibleedpurpleandblack]

14 hours ago, metalraven said:

Ya, that's right. No accountability for Joe. smh

Did I say that?  No, in fact in other posts I've said Joe needs to play better himself but I'm tired everyone blaming Joe for all of the offensive short comings this year.  There is a direct correlation between having a pathetic offensive line, your #1 receiver being out, no run game and the way your QB performs - especially coming back from a torn ACL!!! 

[OriolesMagicPlease]

15 hours ago, metalraven said:

Ya, that's right. No accountability for Joe. smh

Good grief! Talk about a stretch. I know this is a difficult concept but football is a TEAM sport.

[eze17]

  17 hours ago, metalraven said:

Ya, that's right. No accountability for Joe. smh

Did I say that?  No, in fact in other posts I've said Joe needs to play better himself but I'm tired everyone blaming Joe for all of the offensive short comings this year.  There is a direct correlation between having a pathetic offensive line, your #1 receiver being out, no run game and the way your QB performs - especially coming back from a torn ACL!!! 

Well stated...a lot of people need to be held accountable for our offensive woes. I'm not giving Joe a pass either, but it takes more than shaky QB play to lose some of the games we've lost this year.

[January J]

Funny my prediction was these two teams would see each other in the superbowl last year. Man did that turn out to be way off. Not extremely farfetched this year though. We could be looking at a preview of Superbowl 51 If we get hot at the right time and our offense actually starts to come alive.

Edited November 18, 2016 by January J

[bigcatfrank1]

  On 11/17/2016 at 7:13 PM, metalraven said:

  On 11/17/2016 at 0:04 PM, ibleedpurpleandblack said:

People keep saying we'll win if Joe does this or Joe does that...how about this - what if the O-line actually provides our QB with some pass protection; how about they provide some run blocking; how about the OL not have so many stupid penalties!!!

This game will be won in the trenches - be it the OL or the DL - those two groups need to have a damn near flawless game. IF they can it will allow everything else to fall in to place, if not we'll see what we saw in those 4 game losing streak!

Ya, that's right. No accountability for Joe. smh

Joe has stunk it up many a time- even with a healthy offensive line.

I remember watching Payton Manning throw 5 interceptions in one game.....talk about stink.

[bigcatfrank1]

I remember watching John Elway get more yards running than he did passing.

[bigcatfrank1]

I remember watching John Elway get more yards running than he did passing.

neither was over 100

[bigcatfrank1]

The Ravens can win this game...sure poor play by key players can lose the game, absolutely, but to win its gonna take a team effort. It is there, this team has seen it. Go out and take it away from them!

[concretejimmy]

Refs are garbage. That wasn't a catch by Jordy Nelson. I also saw Russel Wilson fail to maintain possession on his TD catch against the Eagles. Ask Dez Bryant about that one. The whistle hadn't blown? I was wondering if maybe that was a cheap flag against Zuttah. And I was glad the Ravens scored a TD on the next play after the refs failed to call PI on the play before. And yes, I think it's a different game if Jimmy Smith plays. Chess, not checkers.

[concretejimmy]

Power rankings are garbage. Most don't even have the Ravens as a playoff team which is impossible. Some even have the Steelers ahead after getting blown out. That game wasn't as close as the end score. The Ravens have a better offense and defense than the Vikings and should be ranked ahead. The Lions don't impress me. NFCN the worst division? AFCS? The Texans don't impress me either. I wouldn't be surprised if the Ravens defense held a team like the Vikings to under 100 total yards and something like 10 yards rushing.

[concretejimmy]

Ravens defense still not getting any respect. I wonder? Zack Martin was my top OL but third by the scouts. I knew he would be there when the Ravens drafted at #17. Cowboys drafted at #16 on a coin flip tie. I wonder if the Ravens take Martin instead of Mosley? Not complaining though. Other players I wouldn't have minded with that pick. WR Brandin Cooks, WR Kelvin Benjamin, S Ha-Ha Clinton Dix. I thought Timmy Jernigan was a top 20 pick and the Ravens got him at #48. La'el Collins was my top OL last year and the Cowboys got him undrafted. He didn't even play and the Cowboys offense is a juggernaut. I thought Collins was worth a top five pick. Drafting OL was priority #1 IMO and Stanley was a good pick. I wanted the Ravens to draft Jack Conklin and Sua Cravens. Both would have been good picks. I thought Landon Collins was a top 15 pick and the Giants moved up in the second round and picked him at #33. I wanted the Ravens to draft him or a CB. They took Perriman instead. Don't look now but Collins is killing it. Ravens secondary with Collins and Cravens?

[concretejimmy]

Joe needs a pay cut. Brady and Wilson make less and look at the Patriots and Seahawks. Some players are right when the Ravens let them walk and another team overpays. Kelechi Osemele was drafted in the second round and the Raiders paid him like a top five pick. Who said the Ravens don't draft? Maybe some picks are questionable but some are steals. Ravens should have paid him and moved him to LT. I wanted to draft Conklin and plug him at LG or RT. I told you Osemele was the biggest loss this season and I was right. Raiders can run the football and Carr is the least sacked QB. Ravens loss is the Raiders gain. Their records would probably be reversed if Osemele was still in Baltimore. Ravens couldn't pay Boldin or Corey Graham either. Boldin is still getting it done in Detroit and the Ravens secondary is finally decent again after a couple of years of being horrible. Joe Flacco is a good QB but he's overpaid.

[concretejimmy]

I wanted the Ravens to draft Landon Collins last year. They took Perriman at #26. Other players I wouldn't have minded. CB Byron Jones, WR Devin Funchess, CB Quinton Rollins, CB Jalen Collins. That's a lot of Collins. OL La'el Collins, S Landon Collins, CB Jalen Collins. I wouldn't have minded if the Ravens took La'el Collins with a third round pick. He was being investigated for a dead ex-girlfriend. Hmm? He said if he doesn't get drafted day two then don't even bother. I liked the Maxx Williams pick. He was still a 20 year old kid his rookie season. Let him develop and he should be fine.