2017 D-line

[RaineV1]

While I don't think the Ravens would use a high pick on a d-lineman unless some monster fell to us, we could really use the depth since Williams is in a contract year and Jernigan could price himself out of our range after his contract year next season. Also, getting more of an interior passrush would obviously be great. So, any midround gems or early round guys you could see Ozzie going for?

One that comes to my mind is Jaleel Johnson. He was named a Big 12 player of the week this week. During Iowa's upset against Michigan he had 9 tackles, 2 TFLs, and 1 sack. That's a monster game for a DT, and he did it facing great competition. He's also really quick off the line for a three hundred pounder. CBS did an article talking about him yesterday and it includes a clip of him knifing through Michigan's line on the goaline to tackle the RB for a safety: http://www.goiowaawesome.com/iowa-hawkeyes-football/2016/11/774/jaleel-johnson-keith-duncan-and-manny-rugamba-earn-big-ten-player-of-the-week-honors

[ravensnick]

From my school, Tanzel Smart is a monster. He doesn't get talked about a lot because he plays at Tulane, but he's got good size and great speed. He could be a 3rd round guy potential.

[Jacquouille]

I've already declared I love McDowell, but he's going to be out of range probably.

One of my early fav in the 2nd: Caleb Brantley, very complete player with good physical tools and technique. He's also a great contributor in the pass rush.

[ALPHA]

I'd like to see us focus on a deeper rotation with more power players, and we need to put an emphasis on durability.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Ozzie usually makes it a point to address dline in the draft. So us taking one in the first three rounds wouldn't surprise me. I'd love for Jonathan Allen to be here but I doubt it. A guy I'd look at in the middle rounds is Eddie Vanderdoes from UCLA

[hn68wb4]

If a good DE is there I can definitely see us taking them, Guy is solid but he's no game changer. I haven't looked into too many guys yet, I haven't watched any tape in at least a week, too busy.

[jboy19]

I'm still excited to see how Urban pans out in a full-time role after Guy probably leaves. Also excited to see how Kaufusi does next season. Nose Tackles are hard to find out of college, so I would like to keep Williams, but Pierce is good enough that I don't think the FO over-extends their wallet to bring Williams back. I actually feel decent about the DL depth. I think that Jernigan is the leader and Pierce, Urban, Kaufusi, Davis and Henry offer enough upside in a rotation to keep the play at a high level. 

Never opposed to taking a good DL in the draft though when one is available- and I think there's a lot of good DLs. Vita Vea from Washington is one of my favorites that could be available late in the first/early in the second, but he's a RS Sophomore and might not declare.

[ravensnick]

On ‎11‎/‎17‎/‎2016 at 2:52 AM, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

Ozzie usually makes it a point to address dline in the draft. So us taking one in the first three rounds wouldn't surprise me. I'd love for Jonathan Allen to be here but I doubt it. A guy I'd look at in the middle rounds is Eddie Vanderdoes from UCLA

Not a fan at all of Vanderdoes. His career is full of injuries and underperformance. I'd be shocked if Allen doesn't go top three, he honestly probably deserves #1 overall status.

Edited November 18, 2016 by ravensnick

[rossihunter2]

I just watched a boat load of tape on Solomon Thomas and fell in love

[RaineV1]

Jarron Jones is an interesting prospect that's a bit similar to Tuitt. He has times when he plays below what he should be capable of, but also flashes moments of greatness. If he plays up to his potential consistently he could be a great rotational piece for the front seven.

Nazair Jones is another midrounder that looks good. He could be a really solid passrusher from the 3-4 DE position. He doesn't have huge sack numbers, but he does get a lot of pressure, and pressure up the middle is usually what causes QBs to make really bad throws.

[Jacquouille]

We're two months away from the draft and Brantley still goes unnoticed. That is beyond me, like, I just don't see what he isn't good at.

[JoeyFlex5]

6 minutes ago, Jacquouille said:

We're two months away from the draft and Brantley still goes unnoticed. That is beyond me, like, I just don't see what he isn't good at.

It's that he's a first rounder and we obviously are praying to baby Jesus that oz doesn't go DL in the first round lol

[rossihunter2]

21 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

It's that he's a first rounder and we obviously are praying to baby Jesus that oz doesn't go DL in the first round lol

Really? I didn't see him initially as a first rounder when watching him... I don't mean that as a criticism or anything I'm just interested in what it is about him that makes you put him in the first round?

[JoeyFlex5]

3 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

Really? I didn't see him initially as a first rounder when watching him... I don't mean that as a criticism or anything I'm just interested in what it is about him that makes you put him in the first round?

Because I see him mocked there often. I haven't done so much as looked at a scouting report on the guy because I've seen him mocked in the first often and I don't want a DL first so I don't even bother lol

[rossihunter2]

1 hour ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Because I see him mocked there often. I haven't done so much as looked at a scouting report on the guy because I've seen him mocked in the first often and I don't want a DL first so I don't even bother lol

Oh ok fair enough

[Jacquouille]

7 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

Really? I didn't see him initially as a first rounder when watching him... I don't mean that as a criticism or anything I'm just interested in what it is about him that makes you put him in the first round?

Good burst coupled with very quick hands, could be more refined but has an already wide array of moves, lacks a bit of strength but hand placement makes up for it for now, good leverage to stack blockers or penetrate in the pass rush. A++ character that matured through adversity. 

[PurpleHorseman]

6 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Because I see him mocked there often. I haven't done so much as looked at a scouting report on the guy because I've seen him mocked in the first often and I don't want a DL first so I don't even bother lol

Forgive me for this. I would favor a DT if there was one deserving of being selected #16 overall. However it would have to be one that puts heat on the QB. Not a space eating NT unless he is a double digit sack artist as well. Pressure up the middle is so underrated. Probably because there are very little sack artists at DT. Not the variety that gets as many sacks as  edge rushers usually do

[Jacquouille]

I love Deangelo Brown, he really looks like a guy we could target. 

[Stevin]

adams looks good! and i like mcdowell a lot. we have some problems in d-line...   i wouldn't mind DL in 1-2 rounds , especially if BW and Guy leaves

[Edgar]

Been watching more of Chris Wormley ....Ravens apparently have interest.

Fast and athletic especially for a huge guy... Six five and three hundred pounds. Good anchor, good arm extension. Does a nice job of finding ball while engaged.

Much better inside pass rusher than he is at DE....not explosive enough to win with speed outside but has bull rush and a sort of arm over move when rushing from inside that proves effective. 

I like him against the run...don't love him. Doesn't jump off film. Sometimes loses outside contain. Decent motor, not more...

I see him as more a part of a rotation year one.  Probably should go in the third round.....late.

[ravensnation5220]

I havent brought him up in a while and i really liked him early in the draft process. Demarcus walker from FSU is a great option for us to help the interior pass rush. Hes had 26.5 sacks the last 2 years abd would be a steal in the 3rd round. Hes a natural leader and has a nack for knocking down passes at the line also has blocked kicks and has forced 7 fumbles the last 2 years. Very underrated and polished player who could be a plug and play 3tech

[RaineV1]

Carlos Watkins with one of our third round picks would be a day one starter and an upgrade over Jernigan, in my opinion.

Edited April 15 by RaineV1

[ravensnation5220]

Interesting https://www.seccountry.com/florida/police-report-female-attacked-caleb-brantley

seems to me like caleb brantley is hanging out with the wrong crowd

[Ravenskid52752]

1 hour ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Interesting https://www.seccountry.com/florida/police-report-female-attacked-caleb-brantley

seems to me like caleb brantley is hanging out with the wrong crowd

Not really just hanging out getting attack for not going home with someone is just awful. He said no she punch him like wth. 

[ravensnation5220]

52 minutes ago, Ravenskid52752 said:

Not really just hanging out getting attack for not going home with someone is just awful. He said no she punch him like wth. 

Ya but she got hit too. Nobody knows by who either way sounds like hes surrounding himself with the wrong crowd. I am glad he didnt hit back though, I do appreciate that.

[Ravenskid52752]

53 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Ya but she got hit too. Nobody knows by who either way sounds like hes surrounding himself with the wrong crowd. I am glad he didnt hit back though, I do appreciate that.

Yup I do to appreciate he didn't hit her back he just moved her out his face 

[rossihunter2]

On 15/04/2017 at 4:29 PM, ravensnation5220 said:

Interesting https://www.seccountry.com/florida/police-report-female-attacked-caleb-brantley

seems to me like caleb brantley is hanging out with the wrong crowd

just watched voch lombardi's alabama film session and im not sure i wanna touch brantley with a ten-foot pole at this point - he doesnt look like he cares about football at all - i rarely use this word on players but i would call him lazy i think - it amazes me that people criticise malik mcdowell's effort and then you watch solomon thomas not chase the football and flat out watch brantley put in very little effort (im much more worried about brantley's desire to play football than mcdowell's at this point - is that too dramatic? i dont know)

[ravensnation5220]

4 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

just watched voch lombardi's alabama film session and im not sure i wanna touch brantley with a ten-foot pole at this point - he doesnt look like he cares about football at all - i rarely use this word on players but i would call him lazy i think - it amazes me that people criticise malik mcdowell's effort and then you watch solomon thomas not chase the football and flat out watch brantley put in very little effort (im much more worried about brantley's desire to play football than mcdowell's at this point - is that too dramatic? i dont know)

Ya he never really chases the play. I always thought maliks effort problem was a bit overblown, especially considering how bad a team he was on. Brantley doesnt have that excuse

[rossihunter2]

5 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Ya he never really chases the play. I always thought maliks effort problem was a bit overblown, especially considering how bad a team he was on. Brantley doesnt have that excuse

like the first time it happened i was just like "yo voch, i get it... you like malik but caleb couldnt do anything on that play" and then it happened like the next 5 plays he showed and i was like whaaaaaaaa???? this dude just beats guys and then jogs along the LoS or just stays wherever he ends up

[ravensnation5220]

7 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

like the first time it happened i was just like "yo voch, i get it... you like malik but caleb couldnt do anything on that play" and then it happened like the next 5 plays he showed and i was like whaaaaaaaa???? this dude just beats guys and then jogs along the LoS or just stays wherever he ends up

Ya it kind of turned me off of brantley too. I really like him before that voch video. I remeber one play vs florida st where he stacked and shed better than anyone else in the draft. He made the play too but the leverage he used and his hand placement was awesome. I cant remember what time stamp it was on but i remember it was a stretch zone run to the left and brantley dropped cook behind the line.