2016 Week 10 Other Games Discussion

[Nge2grads]

Big Ben is down.  Ouch!

[cobrajet]

I agree, that was a penalty

[allblackraven]

1 minute ago, Nge2grads said:

Big Ben is down.  Ouch!

No worries, according to Buck, there's no one tougher than him

[redlobster]

1 minute ago, cobrajet said:

I agree, that was a penalty

1. He was out of the pocket.

2. What was the defender to do when he was falling?

[allblackraven]

Just now, redlobster said:

1. He was out of the pocket.

2. What was the defender to do when he was falling?

If anything, Ben's helmet hit defender's arm

[cobrajet]

Antonio Brown is amazing. I am jealous of Pittsburgh, I wish he was a Raven.

[cobrajet]

3 minutes ago, redlobster said:

1. He was out of the pocket.

2. What was the defender to do when he was falling?

Yeah, but he was not a runner. I think if the QB is still looking to pass and hit in the head that is still a penalty whether he was just outside the pocket. I would be upset if they did not call that for Joe.

[BmoreBird22]

37 minutes ago, JO_75 said:

That shouldn't even have been a TD... ball hit the ground.

Just so everyone is clear on this...

The ball CAN touch the ground if it does not aid in the process of the catch. I just watched the play and it WAS a catch. He did not bobble the ball or allow it to move upon impact with the ground. He had possession. 

[BmoreBird22]

8 minutes ago, redlobster said:

1. He was out of the pocket.

2. What was the defender to do when he was falling?

 

2 minutes ago, cobrajet said:

Yeah, but he was not a runner. I think if the QB is still looking to pass and hit in the head that is still a penalty whether he was just outside the pocket. I would be upset if they did not call that for Joe.

4. Protection While Out of Pocket. When the passer goes outside the pocket area and either continues moving with the ball (without attempting to advance the ball as a runner) or throws while on the run, he loses the protection of the one-step rule and the provision regarding low hits, but he remains covered by all other special protections afforded to a passer in the pocket. If a passer outside the pocket stops behind the line and clearly establishes a passing posture, he is covered by all of the special protections.

[Militant X 1]

So, against the Cowboys the Ravens offense MUST WIN that time of possession battle to keep Dak and Zeke off the field?

[redlobster]

2 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

 

4. Protection While Out of Pocket. When the passer goes outside the pocket area and either continues moving with the ball (without attempting to advance the ball as a runner) or throws while on the run, he loses the protection of the one-step rule and the provision regarding low hits, but he remains covered by all other special protections afforded to a passer in the pocket. If a passer outside the pocket stops behind the line and clearly establishes a passing posture, he is covered by all of the special protections.

Terrible to be a defender in 2016, clear as mud in split second plays

Edited November 13, 2016 by redlobster

[BmoreBird22]

1 minute ago, Militant X 1 said:

So, against the Cowboys the Ravens offense MUST WIN that time of possession battle to keep Dak and Zeke off the field?

I don't see much of this happening.

One thing Zeke does very well, and this will be something the Ravens must contain, is that he bounces outside and gets around the edge so easily. He's got excellent burst and speed and if you allow him to bounce it outside and don't set the edge, you're in trouble. As for Prescott, I'm watching for that now.

[cobrajet]

3 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

 

4. Protection While Out of Pocket. When the passer goes outside the pocket area and either continues moving with the ball (without attempting to advance the ball as a runner) or throws while on the run, he loses the protection of the one-step rule and the provision regarding low hits, but he remains covered by all other special protections afforded to a passer in the pocket. If a passer outside the pocket stops behind the line and clearly establishes a passing posture, he is covered by all of the special protections.

What is a one-step rule?

[BmoreBird22]

Just now, cobrajet said:

What is a one-step rule?

You can only take one step before hitting the QB if the ball has been released. You can be in the process of bringing the second foot down, but it can't hit the ground.

If you're going to be taking two steps, you must try to avoid contact.

[cobrajet]

4 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

You can only take one step before hitting the QB if the ball has been released. You can be in the process of bringing the second foot down, but it can't hit the ground.

If you're going to be taking two steps, you must try to avoid contact.

Oh ok, that determines late hits. That makes sense. Thanks.

[Nge2grads]

I would have liked to see an interception there.  Come on Cowboys!

[BmoreBird22]

Just now, cobrajet said:

Oh ok, that determines late hits. That makes sense. Thanks.

It's honestly pretty amazing that these refs actually get so many calls right on the field in real time without replay.

[cobrajet]

1 minute ago, BmoreBird22 said:

It's honestly pretty amazing that these refs actually get so many calls right on the field in real time without replay.

They have to do some fast processing with their eyes and brains. It really is a difficult job.

[cobrajet]

I hope the Cowboys miss tackles against us like they are doing against Bell

[cobrajet]

If this is not a catch and it become a 55 yarder I would ice him

[ta2d1]

He missed it

[Nge2grads]

Boswell is no Tucker.  Come on Dallas.

[cobrajet]

2 minutes ago, Nge2grads said:

Boswell is no Tucker.  Come on Dallas.

Not this year!

[JO_75]

Wow... Dolphins-Chargers are at the 5 minute mark of the third quarter while the other two games are at Halftime.

[Nge2grads]

Big Ben throwing bombs.  What adjustments is Dallas making for the second half?

[Nge2grads]

Just stepped outside and the moon is incredible this early evening.  Any moon sightings at Heinz Field?

[cobrajet]

One thing about Dak Prescott, he not forcing dumb throws even when he is under a little pressure.

[JO_75]

Wow... the AFC West Standings is insane.

Chiefs 7-2 (Wins Tiebreaker over Oakland due to H2H Tiebreaker)

Raiders 7-2(Loses Tiebreaker over KC due to H2H Tiebreaker)

Broncos 7-3

Chargers 4-5(Currently losing 21-17 and could fall to 4-6, or if they win, they will be 5-5)

Chiefs sit as the 2 seed... IF the Seahawks knock off the Patriots, the Chiefs have the tiebreaker over the Patriots meaning they would be the number one seed.

Edited November 13, 2016 by JO_75

[jdynamite]

So James Harrison, has beaten Tyron Smith a few times today and got a penalty or 2 drawn. But people were outraged that Stanley( a rookie in his 4th game then)  got beat by him or had a penalty called vs Harrison.  But Tyron Smith an All Pro Tackle also still has some trouble with Harrison. ????.  

Just saying people go way overboard here. 

[JO_75]

Big Ben... SACKED! Now go get some Touchdowns Cowboys. Great return, that should help set up a TD drive.