Next Up: Ravens at Cowboys, Sunday November 20th 1300

[FlocksGottaFeed]

WW2 is becoming something special (Weddle/Webb).

[kjbmore]

45 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

im not saying their defense is good because of their offense, im saying the numbers are misleading because of it. they are FAR from the 4th best defense in the league. what ive seen of the cowboys their defense appears to be pretty much middle of the pack, the secondary is improved, but theres still no pass rush and an average front seven in general. you put that defense on the field with OUR offense as their other half, that team would be 0-8 right now lol.

 

Hopefully you're right and our anaemic offence can have some success against them

[Davesta]

1 hour ago, FlocksGottaFeed said:

WW2 is becoming something special (Weddle/Webb).

How had Webb been graded out recently?

[JoeyFlex5]

2 hours ago, kjbmore said:

 

Hopefully you're right and our anaemic offence can have some success against them

whoa now i didnt say all that... lol

[nextgen_RavensFan]

2 hours ago, Davesta said:

How had Webb been graded out recently?

I can tell you that his tackling has improved and from the looks of Thursdays game his speed is back where it was. Being moved from the CB has helped him a lot. I can see him here for a while now as before at CB he was a year to year maybe at best.

[Rav'n Maniac]

17 hours ago, balfan23 said:

Wait ... you're not saying that the topic of whether the Cowboys should start Romo once he's healthy isn't being talked about? I've heard lots of that on talk radio. What I always find stunning is when I hear the question being posed as whether Jones (not Garrett) is going to want Romo back in there. Wow. 

Anyway, most people seem to think that, as long as Dak is performing well and they are winning, to try and bring Romo in would be foolish. However, if Dak has a bad game or two, that could change. Who knows what Jones is going to? I think from a health standpoint our game would be the first the Romo will even be active for. So who knows .. maybe we can make Dak have a terrible day and let the QB controversy in Dallas begin in earnest. 

Actually, Romo is listed as questionable and is expected to dress against the Steelers, from what I've seen.

Edited November 12, 2016 by Rav'n Maniac

[Rav'n Maniac]

Some cool (jinx free) stats Ravens vs Dallas:

Ravens are 4-0 all time against Dallas  (only team in the league we are undefeated against)

Ravens beat Dallas in 00, 04, 08 & 12.

3 of those, the Ravens finished with good regular season records (00 - 12/4), (08 - 11/5) and (12 - 10/6)

All 3 of those seasons we went to the AFC championship game.

Two of those seasons we've went on to & won the Super Bowl

The Ravens have outscored Dallas 121-63 with 1470yds to 1222yds

 

[Moderator 3]

Man are they going to be gunning for us.

[FlocksGottaFeed]

25 minutes ago, Rav'n Maniac said:

Some cool (jinx free) stats Ravens vs Dallas:

Ravens are 4-0 all time against Dallas  (only team in the league we are undefeated against)

Ravens beat Dallas in 00, 04, 08 & 12.

3 of those, the Ravens finished with good regular season records (00 - 12/4), (08 - 11/5) and (12 - 10/6)

All 3 of those seasons we went to the AFC championship game.

Two of those seasons we've went on to & won the Super Bowl

The Ravens have outscored Dallas 121-63 with 1470yds to 1222yds

 

Outstanding post!!! Great history with the Cowboys and when you throw-in:

1970 – Baltimore Colts – Super Bowl V Baltimore Colts 16 – Dallas Cowboys 13

It gets even more interesting.

Edited November 12, 2016 by FlocksGottaFeed
typo

[reed20]

The question here is can we take elliot out of the game?

[reed20]

2 hours ago, Rav'n Maniac said:

Some cool (jinx free) stats Ravens vs Dallas:

Ravens are 4-0 all time against Dallas  (only team in the league we are undefeated against)

Ravens beat Dallas in 00, 04, 08 & 12.

3 of those, the Ravens finished with good regular season records (00 - 12/4), (08 - 11/5) and (12 - 10/6)

All 3 of those seasons we went to the AFC championship game.

Two of those seasons we've went on to & won the Super Bowl

The Ravens have outscored Dallas 121-63 with 1470yds to 1222yds

 

Our 33 to 24 victory over them in 08 was also their last game at Texas Stadium.

[Static]

I fear not getting any pressure on Prescott. If he has all day to throw then things will fall apart.

 

I'm thinking we will do a DECENT job containing Elliot but they will most likely abandon the run once our secondary opens up holes.

[usmccharles]

18 minutes ago, Static said:

I fear not getting any pressure on Prescott. If he has all day to throw then things will fall apart.

 

I'm thinking we will do a DECENT job containing Elliot but they will most likely abandon the run once our secondary opens up holes.

This is the issue I see.  With that offensive line,  I think it'd going to be very hard to get to the QB.  We are going to need Suggs to be in point and try to sniff out those dump offs too Elliot.   Pees is going to have to be creative,  I like the pressure we got on the Browns,  but that was the Browns.  I fear this will be like Oakland, no pressure at all. 

[nextgen_RavensFan]

10 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

This is the issue I see.  With that offensive line,  I think it'd going to be very hard to get to the QB.  We are going to need Suggs to be in point and try to sniff out those dump offs too Elliot.   Pees is going to have to be creative,  I like the pressure we got on the Browns,  but that was the Browns.  I fear this will be like Oakland, no pressure at all. 

When Dallas played Denver they had a decent game against the run and i think our guys do a better job swarming towards the ball. To me the issue is that the first guy contacting Elliot has to bring him to a stop enough for others to pound into him. After a full half of being battered by our guys Elliot will a sore and very tired guy in the second half. And that is where we have vastly improved from last year. Rarely do our guys miss tackles and usually it is more then one guy on you in the end. 

 

Oh and hood call on the Brows game score usmccharles, you just about nailed it my friend.

Edited November 12, 2016 by nextgen_RavensFan

[usmccharles]

1 minute ago, nextgen_RavensFan said:

When Dallas played Denver they had a decent game against the run and i think our guys do a better job swarming towards the ball. To me the issue is that the first guy contacting Elliot has to bring him to a stop enough for others to pound into him. After a full half of being battered by our guys Elliot will a sore and very tired guy in the second half. And that is where we have vastly improved from last year. Rarely do our guys miss tackles and usually it is more then one guy on you in the end. 

 

Oh and hood call on the Brows game score usmccharles, you just about nailed it my friend.

I'm not too concerned about the run game, just that dak will have all day in the pocket.   I think elliot is going to have more receiving yards than rushing. 

 

don't even remember my prediction on the game. Lol

 

 

[FlocksGottaFeed]

3 hours ago, reed20 said:

The question here is can we take elliot out of the game?

1st Ranked Rushing Offense: Cowboys

1st Ranked Against the Rush Defense: Ravens

With their OL having some recent injury problems and rotating fill-ins, I'm giving our Ravens D the edge. It should be interesting. Defense wins championships.

Edited November 12, 2016 by FlocksGottaFeed
Slight Edge

[Ravensfan23]

Wanna be careful in saying this because the Ravens are by no means a top tier team as it stands right now. But i'll ask the question of who have the Cowboys played thus far this season that can match the physicality and aggressive nature of the Baltimore Ravens defense? Other than maybe the Raiders, the Ravens haven't faced off against a Oline like the Cowboys have so it should be a great matchup with those 2 units on the field. 

As many others have said that's the key to the game for both sides. Can the Cowboys do what they do or will the Ravens stop them? The Ravens have faced some good rushing offenses and shut them down. The Raiders game I mentioned, it was basically mistakes from the ST and Offense that led to short fields for the Raiders to score. The Ravens basically forced Carr to beat them that game and he did, but I wouldn't say he put the offense on his back to do so. Also I think this secondary is playing much better right now than probably any time over the last 2 years, so if this game does come down to Dak having to put the game on his shoulders I like the Ravens chances. How does Zeke handle a knock down drag out type of game? Is he the type of back that presses when things don't go his way or does he stay patient? 

Now on the flip side, will we finally see a Ravens offense that can put everything together? They seem able to move the ball well against most of the defenses they've faced, but mistakes and poor redzone usually results in no points or a FG at most. The Ravens must score TDs to put pressure on that Cowboys offense. Can the offense have a clean game, no turnovers, minimal mistakes? We'll see. 

 

[DomMcRaven]

5 hours ago, Rav'n Maniac said:

Some cool (jinx free) stats Ravens vs Dallas:

Ravens are 4-0 all time against Dallas  (only team in the league we are undefeated against)

Ravens beat Dallas in 00, 04, 08 & 12.

3 of those, the Ravens finished with good regular season records (00 - 12/4), (08 - 11/5) and (12 - 10/6)

All 3 of those seasons we went to the AFC championship game.

Two of those seasons we've went on to & won the Super Bowl

The Ravens have outscored Dallas 121-63 with 1470yds to 1222yds

 

Jinx free? Man, you just had to........

[Rav'n Maniac]

I see Elliott as that Jamal Lewis type runner, gets hit at or just past the line and drags the DL for 2-3 yards. We have to find a way to limit that.

[Steve0x]

If Ravens pull off an upset then they might go deep in playoffs. This is a test for them. 

[nextgen_RavensFan]

2 hours ago, Ravensfan23 said:

Wanna be careful in saying this because the Ravens are by no means a top tier team as it stands right now. But i'll ask the question of who have the Cowboys played thus far this season that can match the physicality and aggressive nature of the Baltimore Ravens defense? Other than maybe the Raiders, the Ravens haven't faced off against a Oline like the Cowboys have so it should be a great matchup with those 2 units on the field. 

As many others have said that's the key to the game for both sides. Can the Cowboys do what they do or will the Ravens stop them? The Ravens have faced some good rushing offenses and shut them down. The Raiders game I mentioned, it was basically mistakes from the ST and Offense that led to short fields for the Raiders to score. The Ravens basically forced Carr to beat them that game and he did, but I wouldn't say he put the offense on his back to do so. Also I think this secondary is playing much better right now than probably any time over the last 2 years, so if this game does come down to Dak having to put the game on his shoulders I like the Ravens chances. How does Zeke handle a knock down drag out type of game? Is he the type of back that presses when things don't go his way or does he stay patient? 

Now on the flip side, will we finally see a Ravens offense that can put everything together? They seem able to move the ball well against most of the defenses they've faced, but mistakes and poor redzone usually results in no points or a FG at most. The Ravens must score TDs to put pressure on that Cowboys offense. Can the offense have a clean game, no turnovers, minimal mistakes? We'll see. 

 

I think our corners will be the biggest key as to how we hold up. I know getting pressure is important but can the corners cover for a good 3 to 4 seconds to give Suggs and company time to cause havoc. And if Dak does get outside the box i want to see CJ just smother him. 

 

You are exactly right, we do need 7 in the red zone every time. No more settling for 3 points. Happened way to often so far.

[FlocksGottaFeed]

2 hours ago, Rav'n Maniac said:

I see Elliott as that Jamal Lewis type runner, gets hit at or just past the line and drags the DL for 2-3 yards. We have to find a way to limit that.

Good comparison. He's proven himself to be special. I think a good barometer for us is how he fairs against the Steelers (We held them to 36 yards rushing). I feel that if our D can limit Elliott to a sub-100 yd game (even 75-95 yds) and force Dak to come out of his comfort zone (run game and mid-range passes) - big plays from our defense will ensue. We make their offense 1 dimensional (No one has so far this season - maybe the Steelers can) then we can dictate the outcome.

Their secondary is very suspect since losing key players early in the season (downward performance trajectory) and our run-pass offense balance is on an upward trajectory moving in a positive direction (slower than I hope, but still upwards). Their game against the Steelers will speak volumes as to the resolve of their offense and how we prepare to takeaway what they want to do. Thank you Pittsburgh...(That was really, really, really tough for me.)

Go Ravens!!! We're all the way up! 

[BmoreBird22]

2 hours ago, Rav'n Maniac said:

I see Elliott as that Jamal Lewis type runner, gets hit at or just past the line and drags the DL for 2-3 yards. We have to find a way to limit that.

The best comparison I have seen so far is LaDanien Tomlinson (sp?)

[Davesta]

Win or lose, we all know the media will be talking about the Cowboys and not us.

[FlocksGottaFeed]

10 minutes ago, Davesta said:

Win or lose, we all know the media will be talking about the Cowboys and not us.

So, so, so TRUE.

• We win it's 'Is it time for Romo?' - If we loss it's 'Is it time for Romo to retire...?'
• If all the lights go off at half-time and the Ravens are up it's - 'Did Jerry do this on purpose to postpone the game to have more time to decide Dak or Romo. We'll be right back after a word from our sponsors.'
• A brand-new Jerry World commercial comes on.

[Rav'n Maniac]

1 hour ago, BmoreBird22 said:

The best comparison I have seen so far is LaDanien Tomlinson (sp?)

I can see some LT in him with his change of speed and burst. I think it's more his body type that reminds me of Jamal now that I think more on it.

[RaineV1]

Regardless of how good their offensive line is, I don't think anyone could run against the Ravens if they put both Pierce and Williams on the field. Also while Dak is a good QB, their WRs aren't particularly scary. They tend to depend on yards after the catch, and this year our DBs are tackling well. The path to winning is forcing Dak to throw the ball forty or fifty times.

[JoeyFlex5]

3 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

The best comparison I have seen so far is LaDanien Tomlinson (sp?)

curtis martin

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Zeke seems to get better as the game goes on. He welcomes contact and sometimes even seeks it out. We're going to have to focus on stopping the run for 4 qtrs. This won't be a case where we beat him up and it slows him down as I've seen some suggest. 

But I do think we'll contain him. 

This game will come down to the trenches. Can we stop the run all game and then get pressure if/when they do become more one dimensional. 

And then will our OL be able to open holes for our RBs and protect well enough for the offense to continue the momentum from the 2nd half of the Browns game. 

If we can put some points up early and force them to play from behind I really like our chances. 

[JoeyFlex5]

6 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Zeke seems to get better as the game goes on. He welcomes contact and sometimes even seeks it out. We're going to have to focus on stopping the run for 4 qtrs. This won't be a case where we beat him up and it slows him down as I've seen some suggest. 

But I do think we'll contain him. 

This game will come down to the trenches. Can we stop the run all game and then get pressure if/when they do become more one dimensional. 

And then will our OL be able to open holes for our RBs and protect well enough for the offense to continue the momentum from the 2nd half of the Browns game. 

If we can put some points up early and force them to play from behind I really like our chances. 

zeke gets better as the game goes on when he faces your average defense. hhes not facing our defense every week. 

zeke will be in for a hell of a surprise next sunday.