Next Up: Ravens at Cowboys, Sunday November 20th 1300

[Militant X 1]

55 minutes ago, wizard1 said:

This is a very easy game to predict. This is the start of the second slide as we drop 6 out of the next 7 to finish 6-10 as I predicted before the season began. Dallas will show why we aren't the number one defense in the NFL by putting up 200+ yards rushing and 250 yards passing in a rout 34-10. Cowboys win this one going away.

Wiz....do you EVER get tired of hating on the Ravens man...ever????

[Purple_City39]

24 minutes ago, wizard1 said:

Wait a sec you aren't predicting anything of note. Tell you what - if I'm right you have to change your picture to Pee Wee Herman for a week !

Can I get in on this??  If Dallas runs for 200+ yards you can pick my first every avatar on this site for a week.  If they run for anything less than 200 yards then I pick your av for a week (a week after the other bet if the Ravens cover).  

[Moderator 3]

Why are you feeding this guy?

[Deflated Football]

3 hours ago, jazz1988 said:

Young will be facing Terrance Williams who is 6'2.Size of a corner isn't everything but I do see  5'11 Shareece Wright as a better matchup against Williams than 5'9' Tavon Young. Young hasn't really faced against taller receivers since he started in place of Wright and for most part The Ravens have made it a point to have him  cover the more shorter/shifty receivers like Antonio Brown , Corey Coleman and etc. 

Expect Williams to have a career day if Shareece is on him. Who cares about the two inch difference. By your logic, we might as well pick up Cary Williams again. Tired of hearing about taller Corner's when the likes of Haden, Harris Jr, Revis, etc. have been balling for years. #ShortCornersMatter

[redrum52]

2 minutes ago, Moderator 3 said:

Why are you feeding this guy?

Seems like forever since the last game.  Gotta keep busy.

[usmccharles]

27 minutes ago, Deflated Football said:

Expect Williams to have a career day if Shareece is on him. Who cares about the two inch difference. By your logic, we might as well pick up Cary Williams again. Tired of hearing about taller Corner's when the likes of Haden, Harris Jr, Revis, etc. have been balling for years. #ShortCornersMatter

Young is like SSr on defense,  definitely doesn't play to his size.  

[Deflated Football]

36 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

Young is like SSr on defense,  definitely doesn't play to his size.  

Yessir. Dude is feisty and always near the football 

[Ravenseconbeast]

I wonder what the media would have to say about Ravens beating 'America's darling' next week.   

[Militant X 1]

1 hour ago, Moderator 3 said:

Why are you feeding this guy?

What?  Are you not entertained?   

[Militant X 1]

1 hour ago, Deflated Football said:

Expect Williams to have a career day if Shareece is on him. Who cares about the two inch difference. By your logic, we might as well pick up Cary Williams again. Tired of hearing about taller Corner's when the likes of Haden, Harris Jr, Revis, etc. have been balling for years. #ShortCornersMatter

You may be tired of hearing about taller corners DF but that doesn't discount that people are different and "prefer" different things like taller corners over shorter corners.  Doesn't mean that the smaller corners aren't good or are not balling whatsoever.  Just means that people like me and others personally "prefer" taller corners.  Hell!  Many people "prefer" the taller wide receivers over the smallers ones.  It's everyone's prerogative.

GO RAVENS!!

[Militant X 1]

On 11/14/2016 at 4:48 PM, rmcjacket23 said:

Well, sort of. Playing defense at this high a level without a pass rush isn't sustainable. Better offenses going forward and definitely in the playoffs will be able to score 20+ on us that way, and with the inconsistencies of our offense, that's not good enough.

This may very well be his last year, but bringing back a fresh, healthier pass rusher mid-season is a big boost to any defense, especially one has good as him. 

Can he truly be effective in the pass rush though is my question Jacket?  In his 2 games he played he netted zero sacks.

[Adreme]

1 minute ago, Militant X 1 said:

Can he truly be effective in the pass rush though is my question Jacket?  In his 2 games he played he netted zero sacks.

 

He came back far too soon so that is not really a fair comparison.  I would expect if he is at full force that he will be able to generate pressure (though likely not against the Dallas line) so its certainly a boon to have him out there if not for this week certainly for next week.

[usmccharles]

28 minutes ago, Militant X 1 said:

Can he truly be effective in the pass rush though is my question Jacket?  In his 2 games he played he netted zero sacks.

He wasn't healthy at all.  Clearly our pass rush is better with doom on the field rather than with him not on the field,  considering health

[Deflated Football]

54 minutes ago, Militant X 1 said:

You may be tired of hearing about taller corners DF but that doesn't discount that people are different and "prefer" different things like taller corners over shorter corners.  Doesn't mean that the smaller corners aren't good or are not balling whatsoever.  Just means that people like me and others personally "prefer" taller corners.  Hell!  Many people "prefer" the taller wide receivers over the smallers ones.  It's everyone's prerogative.

GO RAVENS!!

This is true Mili. I can respect it brother

[JoeyFlex5]

20 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

He wasn't healthy at all.  Clearly our pass rush is better with doom on the field rather than with him not on the field,  considering health

In theory that's true.. However... Judon has looked far more effective and doom wasn't doing much last year either when we desperately needed him to provide some rush. 

Age comes on slow for some, injuries slow a player down gradually in some cases, but in other cases it can all hit a player at once and render him totally ineffective. Look at what happened to Peyton i mean good God he went from record setting offense to being in a qb controversy with Brock freaking osweiler in 2 years. 

I personally think doom is hitting the wall and he may never be half of what he was. I hope not, but it appears that way.

[hn68wb4]

8 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

In theory that's true.. However... Judon has looked far more effective and doom wasn't doing much last year either when we desperately needed him to provide some rush. 

Age comes on slow for some, injuries slow a player down gradually in some cases, but in other cases it can all hit a player at once and render him totally ineffective. Look at what happened to Peyton i mean good God he went from record setting offense to being in a qb controversy with Brock freaking osweiler in 2 years. 

I personally think doom is hitting the wall and he may never be half of what he was. I hope not, but it appears that way.

I mean, last year Suggs went down game 1, so the whole year he was rushing opposite Upshaw - who is about as effective a rusher as if you put BWill at OLB

[redrum52]

1 hour ago, Militant X 1 said:

Can he truly be effective in the pass rush though is my question Jacket?  In his 2 games he played he netted zero sacks.

Even at the time it felt to me like he rushed back before playing snap.  Might have had something to do with his production.  Even without sacks does anyone have the numbers for that game, pressure and qb hit wise?

 

Onto the pass rush, would like to see more Judon.  I still don't get why he's not getting more chances in passing situations.

[Adreme]

17 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

In theory that's true.. However... Judon has looked far more effective and doom wasn't doing much last year either when we desperately needed him to provide some rush. 

Age comes on slow for some, injuries slow a player down gradually in some cases, but in other cases it can all hit a player at once and render him totally ineffective. Look at what happened to Peyton i mean good God he went from record setting offense to being in a qb controversy with Brock freaking osweiler in 2 years. 

I personally think doom is hitting the wall and he may never be half of what he was. I hope not, but it appears that way.

 

When a team suddenly loses its 2nd best pass rusher the best pass rushers numbers always nosedive. You can check around the NFL and it has happened time after time because you need 2 edge rushers who can rush the QB to really be able to give either one a chance to get sacks.  If you just have one teams can shut that down but if you have 2 then you can really start getting sacks.

[K-Dog]

2 hours ago, Moderator 3 said:

Why are you feeding this guy?

Ya gotta admit this is pretty exciting ...

[Tank 92]

4 minutes ago, K-Dog said:

Ya gotta admit this is pretty exciting ...

It is! Here's to seeing my little pony!

[RavensFanMania]

4 hours ago, redrum52 said:

Willing to wager?  I don't think that's against the rules.

 

And out of curiosity, who is that lone win?

Have him change his photo to a troll, because that what he is.

[K-Dog]

26 minutes ago, RavensFanMania said:

Have him change his photo to a troll, because that what he is.

With the movie being out there should be multiple options . 

[wizard1]

4 hours ago, Purple_City39 said:

Can I get in on this??  If Dallas runs for 200+ yards you can pick my first every avatar on this site for a week.  If they run for anything less than 200 yards then I pick your av for a week (a week after the other bet if the Ravens cover).  

That's a deal as well!

[wizard1]

4 hours ago, Militant X 1 said:

Wiz....do you EVER get tired of hating on the Ravens man...ever????

Come on man I don't hate my team. I dislike what we have become playing Har-Ball. Despite Harbaugh's successes the quality of our teams look very similar to what we had during the Billick era. Good defenses and mediocre offenses. It's always the same. We have the personnel so it has to be the coaching. Everything starts at the top and seeps down from that.

[wizard1]

4 hours ago, Purple_City39 said:

Can I get in on this??  If Dallas runs for 200+ yards you can pick my first every avatar on this site for a week.  If they run for anything less than 200 yards then I pick your av for a week (a week after the other bet if the Ravens cover).  

I will take it a step further for you-- Elliott will run for 150 + and Prescott will add another 60 +

[Ravensfan23]

2 hours ago, Ravenseconbeast said:

I wonder what the media would have to say about Ravens beating 'America's darling' next week.   

Dallas how a letdown after an emotional win vs Pitts The Cowboys feel into a trap game looking ahead to the showdown with the Redskins. A lost like this is good for these young Cowboys because it'll humble them bit and bring them back down to earth. The Cowboys played down to their competition for the first time all year. Even in a lopsided loss look how well Dak and Zeke handles the media, how great are these young guys? Can Dak carry this team without a run game, is Romo the better option? Dallas is still the best team in the NFL hands down, they just had a bad day. There's gonna be a ton of talk about what the Cowboys did wrong opposed to what the Ravens did right. But I won't care, I'll watch the Ravens based post game shows and get ready to watch Survivor Series with my son knowing the Ravens are firmly in the driver's seat of their dynasty. Don't need the national media on the bandwagon. 

[mg90]

Giving an online Hercule exactly what they want so they can crawl away and hide when convenient (if necessary). Boo.

[FlocksGottaFeed]

Re-posted because it's that funny:

Shock the World? That's funny. Most of Cowboys Nation don't even know who they're playing week-to-week. For example, this is their official posting on the Cowboys website:

"The Ravens enter Sunday’s game as a somewhat streaky teams, having won their first three games to get to 3-0, before losing five straight games. After 42 calendar days without a win, which included the entire month of October, the Ravens finally got back on track with a victory over the Steelers, and then last week against the Browns...."

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2016/11/15/big-picture-cowboys-looking-make-history-multiple-ways-vs-baltimore

Based on that we are currently 5-5. I'll be shocked if they get the math right when we're 6-4 after this one. How bout that Cowboys?

GO Ravens!!! We got this.

[hn68wb4]

Pretty interesting for those that don't have PFF accounts - Top 25-30 players at each position - https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/5djlrn/top_2530_players_across_positions_per_pff/

Our players:

QB - Joe Flacco (25)

RB - Terrance West (12)

FB - Kyle Juice-Cheque (robbed at 3)

WR - Steve Smith (24) and Mike Wallace (25)

OT - Ricky Wagner (19)

OG - Marshal Yanda (2)

C - Jeremy Zuttah (23)

CB - Tavon Young (21) - not sure I agree with having him and not Jimmy

S - Eric Weddle (1) and Lardarius Webb (26)

ILB - CJ Mosley (9)

Edge - Hacksaw Smithers (30)

DL - Timmy Jernigan (24) and Michael Pierce (26 not bad for an UDFA)

Solid list overall, surprised to not see a few guys on list like BWill - I guess his pass rush grade is just that bad, Jimmy Smith, Orr and Stanley maybe. But I guess those missing guys are balanced by the presence of Pierce and Tavon making surprise appearances, West was also higher than I would have expected. Of course, PFF grades aren't the end all be all, still fun to look at though.

Edited November 18, 2016 by hn68wb4

[DomMcRaven]

1 hour ago, FlocksGottaFeed said:

Re-posted because it's that funny:

Shock the World? That's funny. Most of Cowboys Nation don't even know who they're playing week-to-week. For example, this is their official posting on the Cowboys website:

"The Ravens enter Sunday’s game as a somewhat streaky teams, having won their first three games to get to 3-0, before losing five straight games. After 42 calendar days without a win, which included the entire month of October, the Ravens finally got back on track with a victory over the Steelers, and then last week against the Browns...."

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2016/11/15/big-picture-cowboys-looking-make-history-multiple-ways-vs-baltimore

Based on that we are currently 5-5. I'll be shocked if they get the math right when we're 6-4 after this one. How bout that Cowboys?

GO Ravens!!! We got this.

"As a somewhat streaky teams." That grammar though!