Week 10: The Good the BAD and Ugly Rant vs The Browns

[balfan23]

Good: 

Sizzle was a total disruptive force. He is a tone setter. You could see his confidence and swag spread throughout the defensive unit. We will need that game in and game out to be a real contender.

When opportunities for getting turnovers presented themselves, we got em.

That 91 yard, clock killing, game sealing drive was something I've not seen since I can't remember when. 

Bad: 

Continued the disturbing trend of the offense throwing points down the drain. In range for Tucker ... either get penalized, get sacked or have Joe make a horrible decision and throw the ball to the wrong team. Got away with it tonight, but we need every one of those points we keep tossing in the trash when we play teams that can score against us (as we proved during our 4 game losing streak)

The O line needs to be together to get in sync. Every week we have a new collection of guys and it is really a significant part of what is keeping this offense from getting out of the mud. 

 

[VermontRaven]

47 minutes ago, January J said:

-once again nothing really from Hester. Could campanaro be activated before Dallas game? I noticed we even put Webb back there with him at one point. If its not obvious by now this guy has nothing left in the tank i just don't know.

That's my guess.  I think the the Ravens realize Hester is done (which is why we put Webb back there). Assuming Camp is ready, I think Camp plays and Hester is released.

[Rav'n Maniac]

I know many here feel the 1st half O was bad. I don't feel the same. Yes every drive stalled for one reason or another but, we moved the ball well and we had 0 three and outs. The biggest difference between the 1st and 2nd halves was in the 2nd, no turnovers and we punched the ball in. I agree that I like the up tempo offense of the 2nd half better but, I don't feel we did bad overall in the 1st half imo.

[nextgen_RavensFan]

1 hour ago, Rav'n Maniac said:

I know many here feel the 1st half O was bad. I don't feel the same. Yes every drive stalled for one reason or another but, we moved the ball well and we had 0 three and outs. The biggest difference between the 1st and 2nd halves was in the 2nd, no turnovers and we punched the ball in. I agree that I like the up tempo offense of the 2nd half better but, I don't feel we did bad overall in the 1st half imo.

Exactly, i feel that no matter that in any time period of the game that we can win as long as we keep it within a 10 deficit. We have speed, power and a ton of X factors from where to create points. I only really worry when they show flacco and he just has his head down but not really looking through play shots. As long as his head is in the game we have a chance.

[Tornado700]

Excuse me but can you pass the grey poupon please?

Thank youuu..

[Filmstudy]

Soooo much to like about that game:

1.  Lots of contributions/breakouts from young players.

2.  Turnaround by Suggs

3.  10/35 drop Backs ATS for Browns (29%).  Flacco has had horrid protection all year, but never less than 34% ATS in a game.

4.  Despite incredible performance by pass rush, the defense significantly outperformed expectation for the limited opportunity set.

My notes on the defense are posted if you are interested:

http://russellstreetreport.com/2016/11/11/filmstudy/youth-redemption-renewed-hope-ravens-defense-browns/

[Jacquouille]

@Filmstudy again, thanks for your work, always the best read of the week. I have two questions: 

1) Did Judon also had the majority of his snaps in the 4th quarter like against the Steelers?

2) Is it the first game Smith rushed from the inside since the game against Buf? I've pound the table for that to happen ever since that game. 

[FlocksGottaFeed]

The Great: We defended our AFCN 1st place ranking, we didn't fold after the 1st half, we found a way through the 'hurry-up' offense to balance the pass/run offense, Defense was Elite, Special Teams performed extremely well, Youngsters added to last week's performance and continued to make plays, etc.

There's a new 'identity' starting to emerge a little unlike past Ravens teams. More of a 'Fun Bunch' approach. Can't put a finger on it, yet. It seems different, but it's fun to watch it develop. I think we're almost there - chemistry wise. Great win!

[ravensdfan]

9 hours ago, jimmypowder said:

Yeah it appears that way. 

A few years ago Flacco said he loved the up tempo offense.

[GrimCoconut]

The good? The Ravens remain perfect when I attend the game. Maybe I need to go to more games now lol

Edited November 12, 2016 by GrimCoconut

[JoeyFlex5]

4 hours ago, Jacquouille said:

@Filmstudy again, thanks for your work, always the best read of the week. I have two questions: 

1) Did Judon also had the majority of his snaps in the 4th quarter like against the Steelers?

2) Is it the first game Smith rushed from the inside since the game against Buf? I've pound the table for that to happen ever since that game. 

Considering Smith only seems to rush in a straight line I think putting him inside may be a solid idea lol. No more sprinting 10 yards downhill with zero intentions of cutting into the pocket!

[Filmstudy]

4 hours ago, Jacquouille said:

@Filmstudy again, thanks for your work, always the best read of the week. I have two questions: 

1) Did Judon also had the majority of his snaps in the 4th quarter like against the Steelers?

2) Is it the first game Smith rushed from the inside since the game against Buf? I've pound the table for that to happen ever since that game. 

Judon's snaps were more evenly split in this game (6 in the 1st half and 8 in the 2nd).  He did play 6 of the last 8 defensive snaps.

I keep personnel, but not defensive positioning, for every play.  From memory, I think Za'Darius has had other snaps on the inside this season, probably with McClellan on the outside in the Ravens' 5-up/1-down pass rush formation.  I can verify that the 3 times Thursday with Smith/Judon/Suggs on the field at one time were the first 3 all year.  That's a lot more pass rush firepower.

 

[pep_meister]

those uniforms were so sick. the end zones looked awesome. i hope baltimore goes away from white pants completely. 

[Jacquouille]

10 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Considering Smith only seems to rush in a straight line I think putting him inside may be a solid idea lol. No more sprinting 10 yards downhill with zero intentions of cutting into the pocket!

My thoughts exactly lol, it was so painful to watch, and it's even worse when you compare it to how he abused Drango...

 

10 hours ago, Filmstudy said:

Judon's snaps were more evenly split in this game (6 in the 1st half and 8 in the 2nd).  He did play 6 of the last 8 defensive snaps.

I keep personnel, but not defensive positioning, for every play.  From memory, I think Za'Darius has had other snaps on the inside this season, probably with McClellan on the outside in the Ravens' 5-up/1-down pass rush formation.  I can verify that the 3 times Thursday with Smith/Judon/Suggs on the field at one time were the first 3 all year.  That's a lot more pass rush firepower.

 

Thanks boss, much appreciated!

[gtalk12]

Perriman is starting to look more and more confident as the season continues, that was one hell of an adjustment he made on that ball.

 

I like the fact that it seems the playcalls are trying to take advantage of the speed we have on offense and its showing with a couple of big YAC plays this game.

 

With Camp back, and alittle more health I can see us really finishing STRONG this year. Flacco will continue to improve, it's clear there are things happening between the ears with him. I saw in this game the velocity come back in his throws, he stayed in the pocket and stepped in on some key throws. That rollout to Steve Smith was a lazer and reminded me of his early years dumping passes off like that to Mason.

[Jacquouille]

I think it went really unnoticed how much Morninhweg helped get that win. I mean we know too well what it means to have an OC/DC that doesn't do adjustements and this time Marty made some and he called a perfect game. I liked that he didn't abandon the run game last week, he also did this week and used Dixon well, and used the Brown's gameplan to our advantage. 

People keep on criticizing him but I feel like he deserves a lot of credit for helping spark our offense even if just for one half against the worst defense in the league. We'll see how it goes but I think he's giving life back to our O.

Edited November 12, 2016 by Jacquouille

[Willbacker]

The good- Suggs playing lights out against one of the best LTs in the league and Perriman showing he belongs in the league. I'm really loving our top 4 at WR.

The bad- Not finishing off the drives in the 1st half which could kill against stiffer competition.

The ugly- Probally me wearing a Yanda jersey when he didn't even play lol but hey it worked.

[Rav'n Maniac]

13 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

The good? The Ravens remain perfect when I attend the game. Maybe I need to go to more games now lol

Then hell, we need to get the Ravens to take you with them to Dallas, somebody make the call. lol

[terrynjulia03]

23 hours ago, VermontRaven said:

That's my guess.  I think the the Ravens realize Hester is done (which is why we put Webb back there). Assuming Camp is ready, I think Camp plays and Hester is released.

Honestly I wouldn't release Hester. Who knows how long Camp will even play. Best thing to do would be clear up a spot by placing Lewis on IR. Not very popular opinion but 4-6 weeks average recovery time only brings him back against the Bengals, maybe. I'd rather let him sit and let whomever steps in gel with the unit and continue it. IF we make the playoffs bringing back a guy who hasn't played in 2 months and when the line has already gelled typically doesn't work out very well. 

[Rav'n Maniac]

1 hour ago, terrynjulia03 said:

Honestly I wouldn't release Hester. Who knows how long Camp will even play. Best thing to do would be clear up a spot by placing Lewis on IR. Not very popular opinion but 4-6 weeks average recovery time only brings him back against the Bengals, maybe. I'd rather let him sit and let whomever steps in gel with the unit and continue it. IF we make the playoffs bringing back a guy who hasn't played in 2 months and when the line has already gelled typically doesn't work out very well. 

I agree that I wouldn't release Hester yet. No telling if Camp can even stay healthy. I wouldn't put Lewis on IR though because it would end his season, including playoffs if we were to make it.

[VermontRaven]

27 minutes ago, Rav'n Maniac said:

I agree that I wouldn't release Hester yet. No telling if Camp can even stay healthy. I wouldn't put Lewis on IR though because it would end his season, including playoffs if we were to make it.

Who would you release/IR then?  It's definitely a tough call with Camp's injury history, but he definitely has more upside than Heater because he can possibly help the offense too...I see the argument for keeping both, just not sure who the odd man out would be if that was the case

[rmw10]

6 minutes ago, VermontRaven said:

Who would you release/IR then?  It's definitely a tough call with Camp's injury history, but he definitely has more upside than Heater because he can possibly help the offense too...I see the argument for keeping both, just not sure who the odd man out would be if that was the case

I think Hester makes sense, but I'd also drop Taliaferro and not have a second thought about it. Now that Dixon is back in full force, neither Buck (except for garbage time Thursday) nor Zo has gotten a carry. 

[Rav'n Maniac]

21 minutes ago, VermontRaven said:

Who would you release/IR then?  It's definitely a tough call with Camp's injury history, but he definitely has more upside than Heater because he can possibly help the offense too...I see the argument for keeping both, just not sure who the odd man out would be if that was the case

 

13 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

I think Hester makes sense, but I'd also drop Taliaferro and not have a second thought about it. Now that Dixon is back in full force, neither Buck (except for garbage time Thursday) nor Zo has gotten a carry. 

I agree with this^^^ do we really need 5 RB including Juice? RB is where we have a surplus and if they want to activate Camp, that's where I would draw the spot from. We are also going to have another decision to make after the boys game with Boyle being available.

[Filmstudy]

The team is currently carrying just 4 CBs.  That's not sufficient.  They may drop Huff if another CB becomes available.

[VermontRaven]

2 hours ago, rmw10 said:

I think Hester makes sense, but I'd also drop Taliaferro and not have a second thought about it. Now that Dixon is back in full force, neither Buck (except for garbage time Thursday) nor Zo has gotten a carry. 

 

1 hour ago, Rav'n Maniac said:

 

I agree with this^^^ do we really need 5 RB including Juice? RB is where we have a surplus and if they want to activate Camp, that's where I would draw the spot from. We are also going to have another decision to make after the boys game with Boyle being available.

Good points. I could definitely see Taliaferro being dropped.  I also agree some else is coming off 53 man roster when Boyle is back. Don't see Hester making it through both cuts unless someone is going to IR.  Anyone heard anything on the severity of Gillmore's injury?

[rmw10]

2 hours ago, Filmstudy said:

The team is currently carrying just 4 CBs.  That's not sufficient.  They may drop Huff if another CB becomes available.

We have 5 now. Jimmy, Young, Powers, Wright, and Lewis-Harris. 

[Filmstudy]

3 hours ago, rmw10 said:

We have 5 now. Jimmy, Young, Powers, Wright, and Lewis-Harris. 

True.  But I meant just 4 health CBs.  That's been true the last 2 games with Wright on the shelf.

[rmw10]

1 hour ago, Filmstudy said:

True.  But I meant just 4 health CBs.  That's been true the last 2 games with Wright on the shelf.

They seem content with using a S in an emergency situation.

[VermontRaven]

15 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

They seem content with using a S in an emergency situation.

Plus Webb and Levine have experience at CB in a pinch

[terrynjulia03]

21 hours ago, Rav'n Maniac said:

 

I agree with this^^^ do we really need 5 RB including Juice? RB is where we have a surplus and if they want to activate Camp, that's where I would draw the spot from. We are also going to have another decision to make after the boys game with Boyle being available.

Yeah I can get with Tali getting dropped. But I think that's gonna happen when Boyle comes back, esp IF Gilmore is going to miss a couple weeks. I'm still betting Lewis goes to IR, realistically he'd only be back for the playoffs if we make it, and I still would rather keep the continuity of we line we use these next games.