Week 10: The Good the BAD and Ugly Rant vs The Browns

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

1 minute ago, hn68wb4 said:

That first interception was pretty inexcusable too, he just threw it up without looking, Smith never had a chance of getting to that ball

He was taking a shot. Steve didn't win and then pulled off his route. He's got to at least continue running and make a play to break it up. 

He and the DB were hip to hip when Joe made the throw. If the defender could get there to make a play SSS could've gotten close enough to at least make it a tougher catch. 

He straight stopped running. When you take a shot like that you're throwing the ball a good 20 yards before the spot you're hitting. Joe can't anticipate Steve getting beat and completely stopping. 

QBs at times have to put it up and just give the receiver a chance to make a play. You can argue that wasn't the time/place to take a shot... but you had your most trusted target 1on1 with a young backup CB. Joe liked the matchup and you gotta give it to the defender... he flat beat Steve and made a play. 

Its not entirely on Joe there. 

[Cillmatic]

Really hope Waller and Perriman continue to improve. Seems like the more they practice the better they get.

[AsianRice]

I'm so happy that our offense finally start to click and our defense are beast!....

 

I just go enjoy this win..catch ya later....

[hn68wb4]

5 minutes ago, Somerset Ravens said:

Perriman made a good catch on his touchdown, he controlled the ball all the way.

I don't think that's true at all, I think it was definitely a catch but there was some undeniable ball movement as he went to the ground. From what I saw the ball didn't touch the ground - or if it did then it wasn't used to secure the catch - so upholding it was the right call, but he most certainly didn't control it the whole way through the catch.

[IGwheaties_man]

13 minutes ago, terrynjulia03 said:

Lol I gave you props in the other thread that you called it. But you also said hopefully McCown doesn't come in, which he did and looked inept lol. You still called him coming in too. We shall await you're gametime prediction for next week. Lol

I've got one for you. Tony will be in for our Cowboys matchup, and he will throw at the least 2 picks at home. Talk about a bold prediction. Feel free to hold me to this one. And if I am absolutely wrong, I will have no problems admitting it. 

[Somerset Ravens]

Just now, hn68wb4 said:

I don't think that's true at all, I think it was definitely a catch but there was some undeniable ball movement as he went to the ground. From what I saw the ball didn't touch the ground - or if it did then it wasn't used to secure the catch - so upholding it was the right call, but he most certainly didn't control it the whole way through the catch.

Ball movement when hitting the ground doesn't mean loss of control.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

I know it's just one game and it was the Browns... but score one for those of us that have been saying all along that yes Joe needs to improve...

but give him a run game, some decent protection and play calling and he will. 

His bad decisions came from him pressing when the offense was a bit stagnant. Once we started rolling he was money. 

We need tempo more often. Wears the D out and makes the OL job easier which in turn makes the run game click. 

Joe gets a couple easy completions which gets him rolling and the receivers confident. It all clicked, we moved the ball, chewed clock and FINISHED drives. 

 

Oh, and btw... SEE when the offense compliments the defense and at least picks up some first downs our D can completely shut a game down. 

We flipped field position so that the punt pinned them on their own 1 (btw Koch was money tonight, props) and the D was unlucky not to get the safety or pick 6 there. 

Completely smothered them. 

40 total yds of offense. 3 turnovers. That's how you close out a game baby! 

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

15 minutes ago, Cillmatic said:

Is it just me or did Tavon Young make Corey Coleman VANISH? After that first catch I don't think I saw Coleman or Young again. This offense has some MAJOR young pieces. We draft well.

 

But Ozzie Newsome is terrible at his job and we forum posters are better than he is.

 

I'm telling you. Give me a Myles Garret type edge rusher and this defense becomes a top 3 unit. I think with Young's emergence as an outside CB, all we need to do is find a slot guy.

 

[IGwheaties_man]

8 minutes ago, hn68wb4 said:

I don't think that's true at all, I think it was definitely a catch but there was some undeniable ball movement as he went to the ground. From what I saw the ball didn't touch the ground - or if it did then it wasn't used to secure the catch - so upholding it was the right call, but he most certainly didn't control it the whole way through the catch.

Once I looked at it, I had a gut feeling it'd be called back because he didn't exactly maintain that ball 100% on the way down. Then I remembered Coleman's tippy toe touchdown (alliteration) from week 2 where he was on the chalk. And that was upheld. And then I came to the conclusion that I don't wanna hear anything about Perriman's touchdown. That was huge for that kid, and also the team. 

[terrynjulia03]

20 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Shoot where's that thread I thought it disappeared. 

Might want to get that one framed cuz I nailed it to a tee. Don't know that I'll ever be that in point again. 

The next game at the Browns thread. 

[Cville-Raven]

18 minutes ago, Cillmatic said:

Is it just me or did Tavon Young make Corey Coleman VANISH? After that first catch I don't think I saw Coleman or Young again. This offense has some MAJOR young pieces. We draft well.

I was at the game. He basically erased his existence. Even on the DPI they gave them, he still batted the ball away. 

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Just now, Cville-Raven said:

I was at the game. He basically erased his existence. Even on the DPI they gave them, he still batted the ball away. 

Some may say that Tavon did so well against him that Coleman went to a hospital on Guerro Street

[Moderator 3]

22 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

He was taking a shot. Steve didn't win and then pulled off his route. He's got to at least continue running and make a play to break it up. 

He and the DB were hip to hip when Joe made the throw. If the defender could get there to make a play SSS could've gotten close enough to at least make it a tougher catch. 

He straight stopped running. When you take a shot like that you're throwing the ball a good 20 yards before the spot you're hitting. Joe can't anticipate Steve getting beat and completely stopping. 

QBs at times have to put it up and just give the receiver a chance to make a play. You can argue that wasn't the time/place to take a shot... but you had your most trusted target 1on1 with a young backup CB. Joe liked the matchup and you gotta give it to the defender... he flat beat Steve and made a play. 

Its not entirely on Joe there. 

	Jeff Zrebiec (@jeffzrebiecsun)
11/10/16, 11:58 PM Steve Smith took blame for first interception. Knows he's expected to win one on one matchup and make play on ball.

 

[Cville-Raven]

Had the fortune of attending tonight's game. Offense made significant improvements in the second half. Flacco needs to stop forcing balls when there is no play to be made. The second int is a perfect example of this. Gotta give props to Breshad. He's building of what I saw last week. Hopefully the wall is starting to break and we start seeing more of this. Breakout performance for Kenneth. Finally starting to see what we saw in the preseason. Defense was ridiculous tonight. The most impressive thing was how Suggs owned Thomas. Tavon Young continues to be the man. 

 

On a side note I have to give props to dogs who did tricks for the halftime show. Been to a dozen games and have never enjoyed a half time like that. 

Edited November 11, 2016 by Cville-Raven

[Cville-Raven]

8 minutes ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

Some may say that Tavon did so well against him that Coleman went to a hospital on Guerro Street

Hahaha what a Story 

[flynismo]

23 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

He was taking a shot. Steve didn't win and then pulled off his route. He's got to at least continue running and make a play to break it up. 

He and the DB were hip to hip when Joe made the throw. If the defender could get there to make a play SSS could've gotten close enough to at least make it a tougher catch. 

He straight stopped running. When you take a shot like that you're throwing the ball a good 20 yards before the spot you're hitting. Joe can't anticipate Steve getting beat and completely stopping. 

QBs at times have to put it up and just give the receiver a chance to make a play. You can argue that wasn't the time/place to take a shot... but you had your most trusted target 1on1 with a young backup CB. Joe liked the matchup and you gotta give it to the defender... he flat beat Steve and made a play. 

Its not entirely on Joe there. 

How do you put any blame at all on Flacco there? In the game thread, I said the exact same thing, but of course it was "just an excuse". It was one on one coverage down the sideline, and it's SSS. Flacco is SUPPOSED to take that matchup. Unfortunately, SSS got boxed out of the play and gave up on it, the DB ran SSS route for him and made an easy INT.

The second INT was all Flacco. The first to SSS, no way.

[flynismo]

16 minutes ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

But Ozzie Newsome is terrible at his job and we forum posters are better than he is.

 

I'm telling you. Give me a Myles Garret type edge rusher and this defense becomes a top 3 unit. I think with Young's emergence as an outside CB, all we need to do is find a slot guy.

 

This defense is already top 3.  If Dumervil were healthy and still as productive as he has been since coming here, this is probably the best D in the league.

[ALPHA]

Suggs sure doesnt look like a 34 year old with a torn bicep.

Also the best Ravens uniform I've seen, they look great.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

4 minutes ago, flynismo said:

How do you put any blame at all on Flacco there? In the game thread, I said the exact same thing, but of course it was "just an excuse". It was one on one coverage down the sideline, and it's SSS. Flacco is SUPPOSED to take that matchup. Unfortunately, SSS got boxed out of the play and gave up on it, the DB ran SSS route for him and made an easy INT.

The second INT was all Flacco. The first to SSS, no way.

I know it wasn't in Joe at all. But in order to keep things sensible and reasonable in conversations around here you've got to pretend you think Joe was somewhat to blame or it devolves into homerisms and Flacco apologist talk. 

Sss even put the blame on himself. 

Thats a matchup you take all day and twice on Sunday. The defender just made one heckuva play and Sr gave up. 

[Ravenseconbeast]

2 minutes ago, flynismo said:

This defense is already top 3.  If Dumervil were healthy and still as productive as he has been since coming here, this is probably the best D in the league.

Seahawks and broncos are fumbling and teams are seeing holes in their lineup.

We are easily the best defense in NFL imho.   With Doom? Yup

[RavensFan34950]

Also, ZaDarius Smith has had a solid couple of games in a row. His edge setting has been getting better.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Just now, Ravenseconbeast said:

Seahawks and broncos are fumbling and teams are seeing holes in their lineup.

We are easily the best defense in NFL imho.   With Doom? Yup

Agreed. 

If Suggs can keep doing what he did tonight we're tops even without Doom. 

And if we continue to get an occasional Zadarius sighting??? Forget about it. 

[flynismo]

1 minute ago, Ravenseconbeast said:

Seahawks and broncos are fumbling and teams are seeing holes in their lineup.

We are easily the best defense in NFL imho.   With Doom? Yup

Our pass rush is the only thing stopping me from agreeing that it's the best D right now. Even then, I'm not going to disagree, because it's close enough that either of us could be right. Doesn't matter much anyway, bottom line is these boys are getting it done big time

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Pierce is a bulldog man. Loving this kid. 

On that near end zone interception he straight pushed his blocker into McCowns lap before he even completed his drop. Then batted the pass. 

Its tough to BEAT your man fast enough and close to get to the QB before he's finished his drop. Pierce PUSHED another 300 lb man backward that fast. 

Incredible.

[playlikeawhat]

The Good: Most of tonight's O-line performance.  Perriman and Waller.

The Bad: Slow start.  If the Ravens can work their way to four quarters of what we saw in the second half...awesome.

The Ugly: Lewis's injury.  Hope he recovers swiftly.

[hn68wb4]

33 minutes ago, Somerset Ravens said:

Ball movement when hitting the ground doesn't mean loss of control.

Actually I think that's pretty much the definition of not having control

[jazz1988]

Man if Doom ever comes back this defense could get even nastier 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

And Tavon got jobbed on that PI call. Coleman pushed off and facemasked Tavon...

Listening to Collinsworth try to justify that was comical. His bias was spilling out of his ears. 

But he played that thing perfectly. 

[flynismo]

5 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

I know it wasn't in Joe at all. But in order to keep things sensible and reasonable in conversations around here you've got to pretend you think Joe was somewhat to blame or it devolves into homerisms and Flacco apologist talk. 

Sss even put the blame on himself. 

Thats a matchup you take all day and twice on Sunday. The defender just made one heckuva play and Sr gave up. 

Ah, you're right, I should have caught on to your meaning there; I kinda thought that was the case but don't want to put words in your mouth...and no sooner did I post that, I saw Mod 3's post where SSS owned up to it. We can just leave it at that

Can't help but notice that none of the usual crowd has anything nice to say about how Joe played tonight, even after a rough start.....not going to hold my breath either!

[flynismo]

1 minute ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

And Tavon got jobbed on that PI call. Coleman pushed off and facemasked Tavon...

Listening to Collinsworth try to justify that was comical. His bias was spilling out of his ears. 

But he played that thing perfectly. 

Meh...I didn't like that call either, but after seeing it again, it was an understandable error. It did look a bit suspicious in real time....still a bad call, but at least understandable.