Week 9: The Good, Bad and Ugly vent thread

[arnie_uk]

11 minutes ago, 52520Andrew said:

No, just worded it weird. Why do you ask?

Thought I had to be going mad. Couldn't remember a second one.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

9 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

The Eagles OL has been just as bad with Lane Johnson out. 

You don't have to get to Dak... the Eagles weren't hitting him all night. Take Zeke away and make Dak make throws down field in tight coverage. 

He struggled to do it against the Eagles, and again our secondary is better than theirs. 

Thats why I said MATCH UPS. Yes, the Cowboys OL is great. So... you rush 3-4 and keep Dak in the pocket and drop 7-8 in coverage and force him to win. 

The Eagles botched the game and Dak put together one drive to win the game  

 

Football is a game of match ups. That's why It's "Any Given Sunday" bc a bad team can match up really well with a good team and pull out a win. 

We match up very well with Dallas. It will be a close game. Book it. 

I love it - my post which includes actual insight, specific match up details and recent historical context (Eagles game) is ridiculous....

And why??-- uhhhhh, the cowboys OL!!! I heard they're really really good!!

 

i mean at this point any post you say is ridiculous should be a badge of honor. In essence you calling something stupid is the same as "that was a really well thought out, coherent and logical response."

Thank you for the compliment. 

Dude don't feed him. Stop acknowledging him. You're better than this

[52520Andrew]

7 minutes ago, arnie_uk said:

Thought I had to be going mad. Couldn't remember a second one.

Well the way our defense played(prior to the garbage time stuff) it wouldn't have mattered at least

[arnie_uk]

Think there's a playoff run here of flacco sorts himself out and we stay relatively healthy.

[jjengel]

Our offense is just dreadful.  Flacco has not been good all year.  Today, as bad as the steelers were, it should have been 42-14.  Still can't get into the endzone.  We settle for a FG after picking up 6 yards after interception put us in great field position.  Flacco not accurate at all.  He was just exceptionally bad today in my opinion.  That interception is something a 9 year vet cannot make.  I'm looking at stats now and 50 rushing yards on 29 attempts.  that is bad.  4-17 on 3rd downs.  Just ugly.  I'll take the win and first place but same old crappy offense and penalties. I was optimistic the bye would show that we are not really this bad on offense, but it looks like we are. Thank goodness for special teams and defense.

 

oh and our defense was great but webb and weddle have to come up with those INT's!!!  I'll give Mosley somewhat of a pass on his, but come on man!!!  the ball was right in your hands!!!!! make a play! 

Edited November 6, 2016 by jjengel
forgot to add gripe

[Ravensfan23]

30 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Noticed Perriman definitely struggles against press coverage.  On the long ball you're referring to, he was jammed at the line and late getting off the line.  If he can figure that out, he can really be a deep threat.  So far though, his release has really been lacking.  The good thing is that it's completely coachable.

I think that's the final part if the release. I thought over the first 3-4 games he looked slow and unsure. I can only assume he didn't trust the knee yet. Then he started running with more purpose but the routes we're still sloppy. Today the routes looked really strong but as you pointed out the release needs to improve. Once that improves I think we'll see a really strong #1 type WR. I think it's coming

[RayRayRaven]

1st great  win beatin the steelers four straight is worth watchin. lets remember Big Ben was early off an injry and clear rusty.  he coulda played much better and made it a game late.  their center position was fubar. our oline was our starters

now you can say our oline starters were rusty too stanly played poorly comin off many games out.  having watched him h0ld most all year the refs were callin it  on him today

the very bad is we had one lightin strikes td it was a great throw but otherwise our offense was not much the defensive td saved us

the good we lead the division and have the browns next keeping the momentem vs the browns is a must we can't stumble Thursday.

 

[RayRayRaven]

last on b Williams the rookie nt can fill in very well it would be crazy to paywilliams a huge salary when huge contracts are killin us

[cobrajet]

Anytime we beat the Steelers, it puts a smile on my face. If I am not mistaken, this win makes 4 in a row against them!

[K-Dog]

So we are in first place.

Do we still want to tank the season?  No?   I didn't think so. 

[Cville-Raven]

Kind of pissed that we had something with Perriman on Burns at the end of the first half and totally abandoned it in the second half. 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

3 minutes ago, K-Dog said:

So we are in first place.

Do we still want to tank the season?  No?   I didn't think so. 

We haven't played well all around yet and are still in 1st right now. 

Imagine if we can get the offense to play even average football. 

[pep_meister]

despite the win the most disgusting thing i've seen as a ravens fan was 2 3 and outs back to back to finish the game... could have ended it 21-7 vs PITTSBURGH!!! We have arguably the best D in the league without a pass rush and the offense keeping them on the field 3/4ths of a game... Imagine if they could move the ball at all. We are 8-0 and own the North .. with a half decent offense that doesnt rack up 15 penalties a game 8-0 or 7-1  is not unrealistic at all.

Edited November 6, 2016 by pep_meister

[Tank 92]

The really good -  B Will.  We need to find a way to keep him. D line was beastly against the run and it all hinges on him.

The bad - Not feeling comfortable with a 21 point lead with 10 minutes to play in the game.  You just knew it wasn't going to be a comfortable win. damn.

The ugly - Slooow play calling and clock management at the end of the first half.  That was painful and embarrassing. If they didn't get the 3 I think I may have gone T Devil.  lol

[Ravensfan23]

When you sit and watch other games you don't feel so bad out the Ravens chances vs any team. The performances by the Panthers, Rams and Packers suck. The NFL product is really down as a whole. 

Going back to the Ravens if the Ravens and Camp have a unwritten agreement for him to return I'd release Hester. It was a low risk move but it's been low reward too. Camp knows this ST unit well enough to be ready for Thursday imo. If nothing more just make the fair catch and don't allow the ball to bounce. 

Tavon Young is the man, I've said it many times but can't say it enough. Thought Jimmy was lights as well. Those two guys playing well will help the defense so much. Judon is a plus player as well. Timmy is playing really well and it's great to have CJ back. 

[Sunday QB]

The Good: We kept the Steeler in check all game up the 4th quarter.

The BAD: Something change in the way the defense played in the 4th quarter, we should have shut out the Steelers.

My guess is the passive play calling by Dean Pees.

[Adreme]

1 hour ago, Sami84 said:

you're forgetting that our offense is awful and their offensive line wont let their QB get touched. We dont have the pass rush to get to them. Also we have joe flacco who can't play a good game to save his life this year.

 

It does not matter though. Dak is bad at reading defenses.  He is pretty good actually against pressure because it gives him lots of 1 on 1 matchups where the talent around them can make plays.  As long as you shut down the run of Dallas they are not going to do anything offensively and while the Ravens offense is bad I cant trust them to put up 20 against Dallas.  That is not asking a lot considering that the Dallas defense is not good and 20 will win that game.

[Sunday QB]

So on to the browns on Thursday Night. I hope we can dial up a win and paly hard nose smash mouth football. I pray this is not a trap game and Dean Pees gets his play calling right. I mean by week 10 you would think that he would learn from his mistakes.

[rmw10]

7 minutes ago, Ravensfan23 said:

When you sit and watch other games you don't feel so bad out the Ravens chances vs any team. The performances by the Panthers, Rams and Packers suck. The NFL product is really down as a whole. 

Going back to the Ravens if the Ravens and Camp have a unwritten agreement for him to return I'd release Hester. It was a low risk move but it's been low reward too. Camp knows this ST unit well enough to be ready for Thursday imo. If nothing more just make the fair catch and don't allow the ball to bounce. 

Tavon Young is the man, I've said it many times but can't say it enough. Thought Jimmy was lights as well. Those two guys playing well will help the defense so much. Judon is a plus player as well. Timmy is playing really well and it's great to have CJ back. 

I was willing to give Hester a break after a couple of rough games early, but it's become a pattern at this point and I think the experiment needs to end.  It's sad because he's the best to ever do that, but we only saw shades of that in game 1.

[usmccharles]

1 minute ago, rmw10 said:

I was willing to give Hester a break after a couple of rough games early, but it's become a pattern at this point and I think the experiment needs to end.  It's sad because he's the best to ever do that, but we only saw shades of that in game 1.

Yea same here, i thought it was definitely worth the risk.  He has shown a flash or two, but id rather have the upside of Camp.  I know i say this a lot, im still not happy passing on Jakeem Grant

[garfield207]

1 hour ago, ravensdfan said:

Yeah anyone who has been a Raven fan for more than a minute knows Flacco came back broken from his injury, mentally. He seemed to be shaking that off a bit this game, though he still isn't back to himself.

Not sure that I agree with the comment that he came back broken.  I still remember all the headlines from his first game back.  It could be that struggle on the O-line has shaken his confidence somewhat...

http://www.yorkdispatch.com/story/sports/nfl/2016/07/28/ravens-joe-flacco-slinging-ball-return-injury/87676532/

http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2016/8/28/12677256/joe-flacco-solid-in-his-return-from-injury

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ravens-qb-flacco-slinging-ball-return-knee-injury-173243711--nfl.html

http://www.reuters.com/article/fbn-lions-ravens-recap-idUSMTZEC8SLLPME0

 

and so on....

 

[The Raven]

We have a really strong nucleus of young defenders in Judon, Tavon, Mosley, and Jernigan. Not even close to the same level, but it's similar in set up to Suggs, Reed, Ray, and Ngata. I think those four are the building blocks of the next generation, I really do. Let them grow and watch this D take off.

ALSO: Just about all of the holding calls against Stanley were crap. But I'm a former lineman so I'm biased against refs to begin with. None of those were glaring holds. I think refs keyed in on him due to his youth.

[Ravengirl11]

2 hours ago, A Fish Called Yanda said:

Not even sure what I just watched.  But a win is a win.

You watched us pull out a win, which hasn't happened in 4 games

[Tank 92]

How did they miss the hold by Timmons on Waller? That was probably a TD.  And the hold on Webb when he was getting ready to hit Ben? 

[ravens rule]

Can Joe stop fading away every time there's pressure. Also how can he not see when the other team is clearly bringing the heat. I don't think Joe processes information well. In fact, I remember back a couple years ago Kubiak said he had to scale back the playbook because it was too much for Joe to handle. 

[usmccharles]

Just now, ravens rule said:

Can Joe stop fading away every time there's pressure. Also how can he not see when the other team is clearly bringing the heat. I don't think Joe processes information well. In fact, I remember back a couple years ago Kubiak said he had to scale back the playbook because it was too much for Joe to handle. 

link? ive never heard this

[ravens rule]

3 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

link? ive never heard this

I can't find it but it was during bye week of 2014. If I remember correctly Kubiak took some things out and catered more to Joe's strengths. Nothing major though.

[Somerset Ravens]

The Good:

                       Tavon Young 

                       Mike Wallace 

                       Brandon Williams 

                       Justin Tucker

                       Sam Koch

                       Buck Allen 

                       Chris Moore 

                       A win over the steelers 

The Bad:

                       Ronnie Stanley 

                       Joe Flacco 

                       Too many penalties ( again) 

                       Dropped interceptions 

                       Timeout and clock management at the end of the 1st half 

The ugly:

                       Pittsburgh's onside kick 

                       Ben Roethlisberger 

[garfield207]

1 hour ago, Warren said:

Bad: 0ffense. Juan Castillo will be fired this off season- Oline is horrible.

In the last few years, the only time Ravens had a good run game was when Gary Kubiak was here.  Did Kubiak overrule Castillo's blocking schemes?   If yes, then shouldn't it be obvious to Harbaugh that Castillo's schemes are not working? 

[The Raven]

12 minutes ago, garfield207 said:

In the last few years, the only time Ravens had a good run game was when Gary Kubiak was here.  Did Kubiak overrule Castillo's blocking schemes?   If yes, then shouldn't it be obvious to Harbaugh that Castillo's schemes are not working? 

Castillo is responsible for technique, not schemes, and we're using the same schemes now that Kubiak was. Sooooo....

The issue is talent, point blank. Zuttah is holding us back and Alex Lewis is still not quite ready at LG.