[News] Ravens Waive Will Davis, Claim CB Chris Lewis-Harris Off Waivers

[BR News]

A year after trading for Davis, the Ravens are moving in a different direction at cornerback. Lewis-Harris has played in 26 career games over the past five seasons with the Cincinnati Bengals.

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[purpledown]

read between the lines theres that word "potential" in there. The reason why the Ravens are in the position they are now, too much "potential" and no real talent.

[griffrb]

So this makes us better after the bye? Looks like an even swap. I guess Davis will be signed to the practice squad if he clears waivers.

[JamesA119]

This FO is quickly becoming the keystone cops. The traded for Will Davis just last year. Now he is gone and only replaced by another undrafted free agent. They continuously pass on blue chip talents when the have the opportunity (eg Corey Graham, KO, Ramsey via draft) but continue this carousel of "camp bodies"

Can someone please tell me how many bad players equal one good player.

[Zeus]

read between the lines theres that word "potential" in there. The reason why the Ravens are in the position they are now, too much "potential" and no real talent.

Great post, very true

[TheConquerorWorm]

This FO is quickly becoming the keystone cops. The traded for Will Davis just last year. Now he is gone and only replaced by another undrafted free agent. They continuously pass on blue chip talents when the have the opportunity (eg Corey Graham, KO, Ramsey via draft) but continue this carousel of "camp bodies"

Can someone please tell me how many bad players equal one good player.

Will Davis got hurt and is nowhere near the same player he was when they traded for him. It's a smart move.

And how is Ramsey, Jack & Fowler doing in Jacksonville? Best record in the league? Stanley>Ramsey. How is your blue chip draft pick Tunsil doing? I heard he's ranked behind Michael Pierce (undrafted free agent) in the top rookies this year.

KO got paid as one of the top LT in the game - to play LG. Bad contract that the Raiders will regret when they have to pay Carr & Cooper top $$.

[Saxxin]

read between the lines theres that word "potential" in there. The reason why the Ravens are in the position they are now, too much "potential" and no real talent.

At this point it's still a better option than Davis IMO.

[January J]

Dang. Davis was solid in his short time last year but has looked like a shell of himself so far this season. Let's see what this guy's got.

Edited November 5, 2016 by January J

[JamesA119]

  1 hour ago, JamesA119 said:

This FO is quickly becoming the keystone cops. The traded for Will Davis just last year. Now he is gone and only replaced by another undrafted free agent. They continuously pass on blue chip talents when the have the opportunity (eg Corey Graham, KO, Ramsey via draft) but continue this carousel of "camp bodies"

Can someone please tell me how many bad players equal one good player.

Will Davis got hurt and is nowhere near the same player he was when they traded for him. It's a smart move.

And how is Ramsey, Jack & Fowler doing in Jacksonville? Best record in the league? Stanley>Ramsey. How is your blue chip draft pick Tunsil doing? I heard he's ranked behind Michael Pierce (undrafted free agent) in the top rookies this year.

KO got paid as one of the top LT in the game - to play LG. Bad contract that the Raiders will regret when they have to pay Carr & Cooper top $$.

Ramsey is doing great. The problem isn't just Will Davis. Can you name how many mediocre players this organization has brought in the the last 5 yrs? A glaring example is Shareece Wright. They were quick to sign him. He was with the 49ers and everyone knew that he isn't a good CB, but some how they felt that signing him was going to turn him around. There has been too many Shareece Wrights here in the last 5 yrs.

As far as KO, the Raiders made a great move in signing him. You saw what a difference maker he was. The Ravens didn't even sniff Carr when we played the Raiders. Why are the Raiders great now? Great players, not cheap players. When it comes time to sign Carr/Cooper they will figure a way to do it - and they won't let any of them walk.

I said this several years ago; what good is it to draft players, develop them and consistently let them walk? The Salary cap is very fluid and I think that the FO has to figure out how to work it.

Think about the wasted money in bringing several players that would never catch on onto the roster. All those players are paid by the way regardless of how low the contract, when one adds it up, it amounts to a lot especially when there's a lot of such small contracts. And this has been the case.

[JamesA119]

  1 hour ago, JamesA119 said:

This FO is quickly becoming the keystone cops. The traded for Will Davis just last year. Now he is gone and only replaced by another undrafted free agent. They continuously pass on blue chip talents when the have the opportunity (eg Corey Graham, KO, Ramsey via draft) but continue this carousel of "camp bodies"

Can someone please tell me how many bad players equal one good player.

Will Davis got hurt and is nowhere near the same player he was when they traded for him. It's a smart move.

And how is Ramsey, Jack & Fowler doing in Jacksonville? Best record in the league? Stanley>Ramsey. How is your blue chip draft pick Tunsil doing? I heard he's ranked behind Michael Pierce (undrafted free agent) in the top rookies this year.

KO got paid as one of the top LT in the game - to play LG. Bad contract that the Raiders will regret when they have to pay Carr & Cooper top $$.

Another point, we as fans have fallen into the trap of defending the FO when they say things like "We can't pay him a tackle money ... He is a guard" The guy is a monster (KO) he is a mauler, he can play any position on the line. You keep him. His influence on the other players is priceless. I will easily admit that I don't know what the Ravens offered him, but I will go out on a limb and tell you that if they had come close, he would have signed for less than the Raiders paid him.
I don't know why Ozzie would expect players to take huge pay cuts to sign with the Ravens.

[whobilly]

  3 hours ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

  3 hours ago, JamesA119 said:

This FO is quickly becoming the keystone cops. The traded for Will Davis just last year. Now he is gone and only replaced by another undrafted free agent. They continuously pass on blue chip talents when the have the opportunity (eg Corey Graham, KO, Ramsey via draft) but continue this carousel of "camp bodies"

Can someone please tell me how many bad players equal one good player.

Will Davis got hurt and is nowhere near the same player he was when they traded for him. It's a smart move.

And how is Ramsey, Jack & Fowler doing in Jacksonville? Best record in the league? Stanley>Ramsey. How is your blue chip draft pick Tunsil doing? I heard he's ranked behind Michael Pierce (undrafted free agent) in the top rookies this year.

KO got paid as one of the top LT in the game - to play LG. Bad contract that the Raiders will regret when they have to pay Carr & Cooper top $$.

Another point, we as fans have fallen into the trap of defending the FO when they say things like "We can't pay him a tackle money ... He is a guard" The guy is a monster (KO) he is a mauler, he can play any position on the line. You keep him. His influence on the other players is priceless. I will easily admit that I don't know what the Ravens offered him, but I will go out on a limb and tell you that if they had come close, he would have signed for less than the Raiders paid him.
I don't know why Ozzie would expect players to take huge pay cuts to sign with the Ravens.

NO player will ever take less. Why should they. Half of them don't even make it to the second contract deal. Ozzie does not expect players to take a pay cut to play here. He offers what they feel the players value is to the Ravens and eventually another team usually overpays. McPhee, Kruger, Torrey Smith, Arthur Jones, Ellerby are examples of other teams over paying. On the other hand you will lose a player like KO every now and then. That's life in the NFL.

[The Greek]

hope this kid works out for us because the secondary is avg. as it is and a j. smith injury away from being horrendous but this is looking like more dumpster diving by the ozzie.

[Fastynart]

Here we go again. Musical mediocre cornerback chairs. Ho hum. Heard it all before, time and time again. If we could draft worth a darn we wouldn't need to constantly sign, release, and sign more cornerbacks, none of whom have been worth a darn.

[PalmBayRaven]

This FO is quickly becoming the keystone cops. The traded for Will Davis just last year. Now he is gone and only replaced by another undrafted free agent. They continuously pass on blue chip talents when the have the opportunity (eg Corey Graham, KO, Ramsey via draft) but continue this carousel of "camp bodies"

Can someone please tell me how many bad players equal one good player.

Come on we traded a 7th round pick. We didn't lose much of anything. Those picks are mostly crap shoots anyway.

[bioLarzen]

Depth move.

[whobilly]

Depth move.

That's about it. As Marv Levy once said, "Depth is a great thing to have, until you need it".

[Rav'n Maniac]

This wasn't a smart move imo. We already have Wright injured and you cut loose a player who knows the system for someone who doesn't. Sure it's a depth move but, it's one that doesn't help us today, tomorrow or next week.

The FO is taking a big chance on no one getting injured at CB the next 2 games.

[whobilly]

There was once a time when if we had four of the next five games at home you'd all but chalk up coming out of it at 7-5. Don't really have that feeling even a little with the way this team is built.

[sami]

  11 hours ago, JamesA119 said:

  12 hours ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

  13 hours ago, JamesA119 said:

This FO is quickly becoming the keystone cops. The traded for Will Davis just last year. Now he is gone and only replaced by another undrafted free agent. They continuously pass on blue chip talents when the have the opportunity (eg Corey Graham, KO, Ramsey via draft) but continue this carousel of "camp bodies"

Can someone please tell me how many bad players equal one good player.

Will Davis got hurt and is nowhere near the same player he was when they traded for him. It's a smart move.

And how is Ramsey, Jack & Fowler doing in Jacksonville? Best record in the league? Stanley>Ramsey. How is your blue chip draft pick Tunsil doing? I heard he's ranked behind Michael Pierce (undrafted free agent) in the top rookies this year.

KO got paid as one of the top LT in the game - to play LG. Bad contract that the Raiders will regret when they have to pay Carr & Cooper top $$.

Another point, we as fans have fallen into the trap of defending the FO when they say things like "We can't pay him a tackle money ... He is a guard" The guy is a monster (KO) he is a mauler, he can play any position on the line. You keep him. His influence on the other players is priceless. I will easily admit that I don't know what the Ravens offered him, but I will go out on a limb and tell you that if they had come close, he would have signed for less than the Raiders paid him.
I don't know why Ozzie would expect players to take huge pay cuts to sign with the Ravens.

NO player will ever take less. Why should they. Half of them don't even make it to the second contract deal. Ozzie does not expect players to take a pay cut to play here. He offers what they feel the players value is to the Ravens and eventually another team usually overpays. McPhee, Kruger, Torrey Smith, Arthur Jones, Ellerby are examples of other teams over paying. On the other hand you will lose a player like KO every now and then. That's life in the NFL.

plus you have to give Alex Lewis a chance. He was doing great at LG then did pretty good at LT and its only his rookie year.

[CQ1]

CQ1 STATUS:
!I'm only (trying) to focus on warm, Purple, and fuzzy thoughts until after the game :)......
Go Ravens, BEAT Pittsburgh...., beat anybody !

[TheConquerorWorm]

  13 hours ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

  13 hours ago, JamesA119 said:

This FO is quickly becoming the keystone cops. The traded for Will Davis just last year. Now he is gone and only replaced by another undrafted free agent. They continuously pass on blue chip talents when the have the opportunity (eg Corey Graham, KO, Ramsey via draft) but continue this carousel of "camp bodies"

Can someone please tell me how many bad players equal one good player.

Will Davis got hurt and is nowhere near the same player he was when they traded for him. It's a smart move.

And how is Ramsey, Jack & Fowler doing in Jacksonville? Best record in the league? Stanley>Ramsey. How is your blue chip draft pick Tunsil doing? I heard he's ranked behind Michael Pierce (undrafted free agent) in the top rookies this year.

KO got paid as one of the top LT in the game - to play LG. Bad contract that the Raiders will regret when they have to pay Carr & Cooper top $$.

Ramsey is doing great. The problem isn't just Will Davis. Can you name how many mediocre players this organization has brought in the the last 5 yrs? A glaring example is Shareece Wright. They were quick to sign him. He was with the 49ers and everyone knew that he isn't a good CB, but some how they felt that signing him was going to turn him around. There has been too many Shareece Wrights here in the last 5 yrs.

As far as KO, the Raiders made a great move in signing him. You saw what a difference maker he was. The Ravens didn't even sniff Carr when we played the Raiders. Why are the Raiders great now? Great players, not cheap players. When it comes time to sign Carr/Cooper they will figure a way to do it - and they won't let any of them walk.

I said this several years ago; what good is it to draft players, develop them and consistently let them walk? The Salary cap is very fluid and I think that the FO has to figure out how to work it.

Think about the wasted money in bringing several players that would never catch on onto the roster. All those players are paid by the way regardless of how low the contract, when one adds it up, it amounts to a lot especially when there's a lot of such small contracts. And this has been the case.

Ramsey doing great? You mean by giving up 500 yds of offense to the Titans? Or do you mean the 2-5 record? The Jags secondary with Ramsey has given up 225 passing yards a game. The Ravens secondary with Wright has given up 220 yards. Doesn't seem like Ramsey is all that great to me.

David Carr is making $1.5 million, Cooper & Mack are making $5 million per. The Raiders are good because they can overpay players like KO, Crabtree, Irvin, etc. BECAUSE these guys are on their rookie contracts. Just like Seattle's run before they had to pay Russell Wilson. Where are the Seahawks now? Definitely not the same team. The Raiders window is this year and next. After that, they are going to have to pay Carr, Cooper, Mack, Gabe Jackson, etc.

The question is still out on whether KO is worth the money but name 1 other free agent that the Ravens let walk that was even close to being worth what the next team paid for him. (Hint: You can't).

You can't sign & keep everyone. This is what the NFL wanted. And quite frankly, I think the FO made the right move - I'd rather have Weddle & Wallace AND $6 million extra in cap space than have KO.

[January J]

20 minutes ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

Ramsey doing great? You mean by giving up 500 yds of offense to the Titans? Or do you mean the 2-5 record? The Jags secondary with Ramsey has given up 225 passing yards a game. The Ravens secondary with Wright has given up 220 yards. Doesn't seem like Ramsey is all that great to me.

David Carr is making $1.5 million, Cooper & Mack are making $5 million per. The Raiders are good because they can overpay players like KO, Crabtree, Irvin, etc. BECAUSE these guys are on their rookie contracts. Just like Seattle's run before they had to pay Russell Wilson. Where are the Seahawks now? Definitely not the same team. The Raiders window is this year and next. After that, they are going to have to pay Carr, Cooper, Mack, Gabe Jackson, etc.

The question is still out on whether KO is worth the money but name 1 other free agent that the Ravens let walk that was even close to being worth what the next team paid for him. (Hint: You can't).

You can't sign & keep everyone. This is what the NFL wanted. And quite frankly, I think the FO made the right move - I'd rather have Weddle & Wallace AND $6 million extra in cap space than have KO.

Agreed...ESP considering we drafted Stanley and lewis. Knowing our luck if we would've paid KO he would've thrown his back out week 2 anyway and done us no good. That's no Wallace, weddle, Stanley ( or KO). We made the smart play. Esp if Watson panned out as well.

[fusuymada]

  13 hours ago, JamesA119 said:

  14 hours ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

  15 hours ago, JamesA119 said:

This FO is quickly becoming the keystone cops. The traded for Will Davis just last year. Now he is gone and only replaced by another undrafted free agent. They continuously pass on blue chip talents when the have the opportunity (eg Corey Graham, KO, Ramsey via draft) but continue this carousel of "camp bodies"

Can someone please tell me how many bad players equal one good player.

Will Davis got hurt and is nowhere near the same player he was when they traded for him. It's a smart move.

And how is Ramsey, Jack & Fowler doing in Jacksonville? Best record in the league? Stanley>Ramsey. How is your blue chip draft pick Tunsil doing? I heard he's ranked behind Michael Pierce (undrafted free agent) in the top rookies this year.

KO got paid as one of the top LT in the game - to play LG. Bad contract that the Raiders will regret when they have to pay Carr & Cooper top $$.

Ramsey is doing great. The problem isn't just Will Davis. Can you name how many mediocre players this organization has brought in the the last 5 yrs? A glaring example is Shareece Wright. They were quick to sign him. He was with the 49ers and everyone knew that he isn't a good CB, but some how they felt that signing him was going to turn him around. There has been too many Shareece Wrights here in the last 5 yrs.

As far as KO, the Raiders made a great move in signing him. You saw what a difference maker he was. The Ravens didn't even sniff Carr when we played the Raiders. Why are the Raiders great now? Great players, not cheap players. When it comes time to sign Carr/Cooper they will figure a way to do it - and they won't let any of them walk.

I said this several years ago; what good is it to draft players, develop them and consistently let them walk? The Salary cap is very fluid and I think that the FO has to figure out how to work it.

Think about the wasted money in bringing several players that would never catch on onto the roster. All those players are paid by the way regardless of how low the contract, when one adds it up, it amounts to a lot especially when there's a lot of such small contracts. And this has been the case.

Ramsey doing great? You mean by giving up 500 yds of offense to the Titans? Or do you mean the 2-5 record? The Jags secondary with Ramsey has given up 225 passing yards a game. The Ravens secondary with Wright has given up 220 yards. Doesn't seem like Ramsey is all that great to me.

David Carr is making $1.5 million, Cooper & Mack are making $5 million per. The Raiders are good because they can overpay players like KO, Crabtree, Irvin, etc. BECAUSE these guys are on their rookie contracts. Just like Seattle's run before they had to pay Russell Wilson. Where are the Seahawks now? Definitely not the same team. The Raiders window is this year and next. After that, they are going to have to pay Carr, Cooper, Mack, Gabe Jackson, etc.

The question is still out on whether KO is worth the money but name 1 other free agent that the Ravens let walk that was even close to being worth what the next team paid for him. (Hint: You can't).

You can't sign & keep everyone. This is what the NFL wanted. And quite frankly, I think the FO made the right move - I'd rather have Weddle & Wallace AND $6 million extra in cap space than have KO.

Just curious, are you saying because Ramsey plays for the Jags he is a bad player. Did you look at HIS game stats as opposed to the safeties and the other corners. With the same logic, does Jimmy Smith and Weddle suck because our secondary has allowed 14 TDs this year or are they bad because Eli Manning and Odell Beckham abused OUR secondary to the tune of 400+ yards for Manning and 200+ for Beckham. Good players go to bad teams, that's the nature of the draft to create parity in the league. I think Ramsey would have helped this team and to say Stanley is better when he has played in 3 of 7 games is a little premature. Now the future may prove you right or wrong, but when Ramsey hasn't missed a play and Stanely has missed more than half, it is WAY too early to say Stanley is reliable much less better than Ramsey. And the other part of that trade was Kaufusi who was not doing well before getting injured for the year so right now, until Stanley plays more and Kaufusi actually can play, I side on the Ramsey side of the equation.

[JamesA119]

  2 hours ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

  15 hours ago, JamesA119 said:

  16 hours ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

  17 hours ago, JamesA119 said:

This FO is quickly becoming the keystone cops. The traded for Will Davis just last year. Now he is gone and only replaced by another undrafted free agent. They continuously pass on blue chip talents when the have the opportunity (eg Corey Graham, KO, Ramsey via draft) but continue this carousel of "camp bodies"

Can someone please tell me how many bad players equal one good player.

Will Davis got hurt and is nowhere near the same player he was when they traded for him. It's a smart move.

And how is Ramsey, Jack & Fowler doing in Jacksonville? Best record in the league? Stanley>Ramsey. How is your blue chip draft pick Tunsil doing? I heard he's ranked behind Michael Pierce (undrafted free agent) in the top rookies this year.

KO got paid as one of the top LT in the game - to play LG. Bad contract that the Raiders will regret when they have to pay Carr & Cooper top $$.

Ramsey is doing great. The problem isn't just Will Davis. Can you name how many mediocre players this organization has brought in the the last 5 yrs? A glaring example is Shareece Wright. They were quick to sign him. He was with the 49ers and everyone knew that he isn't a good CB, but some how they felt that signing him was going to turn him around. There has been too many Shareece Wrights here in the last 5 yrs.

As far as KO, the Raiders made a great move in signing him. You saw what a difference maker he was. The Ravens didn't even sniff Carr when we played the Raiders. Why are the Raiders great now? Great players, not cheap players. When it comes time to sign Carr/Cooper they will figure a way to do it - and they won't let any of them walk.

I said this several years ago; what good is it to draft players, develop them and consistently let them walk? The Salary cap is very fluid and I think that the FO has to figure out how to work it.

Think about the wasted money in bringing several players that would never catch on onto the roster. All those players are paid by the way regardless of how low the contract, when one adds it up, it amounts to a lot especially when there's a lot of such small contracts. And this has been the case.

Ramsey doing great? You mean by giving up 500 yds of offense to the Titans? Or do you mean the 2-5 record? The Jags secondary with Ramsey has given up 225 passing yards a game. The Ravens secondary with Wright has given up 220 yards. Doesn't seem like Ramsey is all that great to me.

David Carr is making $1.5 million, Cooper & Mack are making $5 million per. The Raiders are good because they can overpay players like KO, Crabtree, Irvin, etc. BECAUSE these guys are on their rookie contracts. Just like Seattle's run before they had to pay Russell Wilson. Where are the Seahawks now? Definitely not the same team. The Raiders window is this year and next. After that, they are going to have to pay Carr, Cooper, Mack, Gabe Jackson, etc.

The question is still out on whether KO is worth the money but name 1 other free agent that the Ravens let walk that was even close to being worth what the next team paid for him. (Hint: You can't).

You can't sign & keep everyone. This is what the NFL wanted. And quite frankly, I think the FO made the right move - I'd rather have Weddle & Wallace AND $6 million extra in cap space than have KO.

Just curious, are you saying because Ramsey plays for the Jags he is a bad player. Did you look at HIS game stats as opposed to the safeties and the other corners. With the same logic, does Jimmy Smith and Weddle suck because our secondary has allowed 14 TDs this year or are they bad because Eli Manning and Odell Beckham abused OUR secondary to the tune of 400+ yards for Manning and 200+ for Beckham. Good players go to bad teams, that's the nature of the draft to create parity in the league. I think Ramsey would have helped this team and to say Stanley is better when he has played in 3 of 7 games is a little premature. Now the future may prove you right or wrong, but when Ramsey hasn't missed a play and Stanely has missed more than half, it is WAY too early to say Stanley is reliable much less better than Ramsey. And the other part of that trade was Kaufusi who was not doing well before getting injured for the year so right now, until Stanley plays more and Kaufusi actually can play, I side on the Ramsey side of the equation.

Agree with Fusuymada. The other guy I'm not even going to mention. That's the problem with some of our fans. Like Fusuymada, I'm not here to trash talk. I just present things as I see it. This is not a case of who can shout the loudest.

Here are things as I see it: Ramsey is on a track to be a Jimmy Smith type player. It looks like he would have been great to draft to pair with Jimmy Smith to secure the CB position for at least 4 yrs to come.
I know hind sight is 20/20, however drafting Ramsey would have made it unlikely that we would also get Stanley. In that case, assuming we had kept KO who can also play LT. We would have still been able to let Monroe go, and have KO at LT and Lewis at LG.

Mr Einstein Sir, I can name a few Ravens that we let walk that we shouldn't have. (Sir I never implied that we keep everybody that comes up for a contract):
J.J, Grubbs, McPhee, KO. Corey Graham, Boldin, Pollard etc And by the way the question is not "how well did those players do when they left?" but how bad a team did we become after they left. J.J. And Grubbs didn't affect us that much because we were so loaded on defense. #52, #20, #55, #92, #21 etc You see without those players of late we have struggled when we let great players walk. Secondly just because a player didn't have a great career after he left the Ravens doesn't justify our decision. Some of those players were developed in our system and would have likely had a better career with us for example Ellerbee, Jones , etc.

Mr Einstein I have seen you argue on these boards that the Oline is the reason Flacco struggles. So if that is your logic then why should the FO get a pass for letting one of the best talents to come around on the Oline walk?

[JamesA119]

  16 hours ago, JamesA119 said:

  17 hours ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

  18 hours ago, JamesA119 said:

This FO is quickly becoming the keystone cops. The traded for Will Davis just last year. Now he is gone and only replaced by another undrafted free agent. They continuously pass on blue chip talents when the have the opportunity (eg Corey Graham, KO, Ramsey via draft) but continue this carousel of "camp bodies"

Can someone please tell me how many bad players equal one good player.

Will Davis got hurt and is nowhere near the same player he was when they traded for him. It's a smart move.

And how is Ramsey, Jack & Fowler doing in Jacksonville? Best record in the league? Stanley>Ramsey. How is your blue chip draft pick Tunsil doing? I heard he's ranked behind Michael Pierce (undrafted free agent) in the top rookies this year.

KO got paid as one of the top LT in the game - to play LG. Bad contract that the Raiders will regret when they have to pay Carr & Cooper top $$.

Ramsey is doing great. The problem isn't just Will Davis. Can you name how many mediocre players this organization has brought in the the last 5 yrs? A glaring example is Shareece Wright. They were quick to sign him. He was with the 49ers and everyone knew that he isn't a good CB, but some how they felt that signing him was going to turn him around. There has been too many Shareece Wrights here in the last 5 yrs.

As far as KO, the Raiders made a great move in signing him. You saw what a difference maker he was. The Ravens didn't even sniff Carr when we played the Raiders. Why are the Raiders great now? Great players, not cheap players. When it comes time to sign Carr/Cooper they will figure a way to do it - and they won't let any of them walk.

I said this several years ago; what good is it to draft players, develop them and consistently let them walk? The Salary cap is very fluid and I think that the FO has to figure out how to work it.

Think about the wasted money in bringing several players that would never catch on onto the roster. All those players are paid by the way regardless of how low the contract, when one adds it up, it amounts to a lot especially when there's a lot of such small contracts. And this has been the case.

Ramsey doing great? You mean by giving up 500 yds of offense to the Titans? Or do you mean the 2-5 record? The Jags secondary with Ramsey has given up 225 passing yards a game. The Ravens secondary with Wright has given up 220 yards. Doesn't seem like Ramsey is all that great to me.

David Carr is making $1.5 million, Cooper & Mack are making $5 million per. The Raiders are good because they can overpay players like KO, Crabtree, Irvin, etc. BECAUSE these guys are on their rookie contracts. Just like Seattle's run before they had to pay Russell Wilson. Where are the Seahawks now? Definitely not the same team. The Raiders window is this year and next. After that, they are going to have to pay Carr, Cooper, Mack, Gabe Jackson, etc.

The question is still out on whether KO is worth the money but name 1 other free agent that the Ravens let walk that was even close to being worth what the next team paid for him. (Hint: You can't).

You can't sign & keep everyone. This is what the NFL wanted. And quite frankly, I think the FO made the right move - I'd rather have Weddle & Wallace AND $6 million extra in cap space than have KO.

You have your extra $6M in caps space and 4 straight losses. Congratulations!

[FloridalovesRavens]

Here we go again. Musical mediocre cornerback chairs. Ho hum. Heard it all before, time and time again. If we could draft worth a darn we wouldn't need to constantly sign, release, and sign more cornerbacks, none of whom have been worth a darn.

Here you go again. I'm glad the Ravens haven't given up on trying to improve the team. This may or may not work who knows but it's worth a try. Better than sitting and picking your nose waiting for something to happen.

[law215]

Another head scratching move by the front office. They need all the depth a CB they can get yet they release one average to below average CB for another average to below average CB. Why not let Hester go? He has done next to nothing. The secondary needs chemistry in the middle of the season, not adding new parts.