[News] Late For Work 11/2: Predicting Ravens Record Over Next Five Games

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Mike Tomlin no longer sees Mike Wallace used as a one-trick pony. Andre Johnson’s retirement amplifies Steve Smith’s greatness. Michael Pierce makes PFF’s top-10 rookies list.

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[Halshayeji]

Omg can we stop with predicting the next five games already! That's what got us here in the first place. We were 3-0 and everyone was clamuring for 5-0 while forgetting that u gotta win your next game first. 

Lets beat the steelers and figure it out from there lol

Edited November 2, 2016 by Halshayeji

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Omg can we stop with predicting the next five games already! That's what got us here in the first place. We were 3-0 and everyone was clam outing for 5-0 while forgetting that u gotta win your next game first. 

Lets beat the steelers and figure it out from there lol

yea its the predictions that did it. Not injuries, OC changes, and poor play.

Darn predictions - if only no one looked into the future we'd be 7-0.

[Halshayeji]

Just now, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

yea its the predictions that did it. Not injuries, OC changes, and poor play.

Darn predictions - if only no one looked into the future we'd be 7-0.

Lool it's not the prediction as much as its being 100 percent focused on your next target. 

[RavenLunatic]

  19 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

yea its the predictions that did it. Not injuries, OC changes, and poor play.

Darn predictions - if only no one looked into the future we'd be 7-0.

Lool it's not the prediction as much as its being 100 percent focused on your next target. 

Thank you Halshayeji. I don't know what they are smoking at the castle, but Sarah, please don't let them pass it to you. I appreciate your optimism, but how can you pick the Ravens to win a game with the way they have looked over the last 4 weeks??? I don't care who they are getting back from the injury list. This team is in the toilet and they need a major plunging job to get them out. Here's my prediction for the remainder of the year. I predict all losses until they can prove on the field they can win a game. We'll go from there.

[RailBird]

Let's just wait and see how we look after our bye week before making these kinds of predictions. If we can somehow destroy the Steelers, maybe that I'll buy into it then. For now, ending 7-5 after the next 5 games would be a dream come true.

[steelcityraven]

The Vikings OC (Norv Turner) has just resigned. I think with Norvs success elsewhere.... he may be able to boost our offensive production enough to change that win total prediction?

[Minionhunter]

The Vikings OC (Norv Turner) has just resigned. I think with Norvs success elsewhere.... he may be able to boost our offensive production enough to change that win total prediction?

Beat me to it. I think we should sign him right now as a QB coach or whatever. Get him unless we are going to go after Mike Shanahan as OC [the blog which suggested him as HC is crazy] to completely revamp the system into what Gary started to build, but to include a succession plan for the next OC when MShan is hired as a head coach again. Unless we go that route, we should be pursuing Norv Turner ASAP with a full court press.

[bioLarzen]

I know things can turn around iun the NFL quicker than a Wallace-route, but... if there is no radical change to how we play, the only game I see us winning here is the Browns game... And not even that very comfortably...

The steelers and Cowboys are way ahead of us at the moment. They donb't even have to bring their A game to be better than what we've been showing lately, and beat us. The Bengals are much better than what their current records would indicate. I've seen most of their games. Their O is still solid, and Green is as good as ever... As for the Dolphins... they are on the rise. If we play v them like we played the last 3 times, it's gonna be a tossup game at best...

This is all assuming our O game isn't improving. If it does, anything's possible.

[bioLarzen]

And I hear Norv Turner has resigned as OC for the Vikings...

[bioLarzen]

Isn't "Pierce" the perfect name for a NT? :)

[Minionhunter]

Along with the Norv thing, all fans should look at the Vikings, 5-0 and rolling with crazy predictions of glory and making Bradford look amazing. Then their O-line falls apart and into total shambles and they look terrible and it is making their defense look terrible who during the 5 game winning streak was the best in football.

So Ravens fans, sound like any team you know of? When your QB coming off short healing time for an ACL has his line fall apart, maybe you should be looking at the line and not casting blame to everyone but the line.... Why does Dallas look so good? Best line in football couldn't be a factor in making the rookie QB and rookie RB look great, couldn't it?

Also, note that Kyle Long can't even get out of his stance on MNF and he was brought in to shore up the LT spot when MN's LT was injured. Looks like Ozzie knew what he was doing with that one....

[fusuymada]

I think the biggest threat to the Ravens in this game is Ben Roethlisberger. If he plays, then I think we lose. We have proven we can stop LeVeon Bell. We have done it a number of times and run defense is our strength. However, when Ben is out (isn't playing) against us they are 1-4 and I think that is because his replacements over the years, haven't been able to scramble to give receivers like Antonio Brown, Sammy Coates, and others, time to shake coverage, I don't think Landry Jones as a pocket passer will be successful either. Dean Pees defense is not a Rex Ryan/Chuck Pagano style attacking defense, how many times have we heard bend not break. Well, with Ben, we break with the others we have just bent.

The other side of the coin is this, if by some miracle, Dean Pees finally can generate a pass rush without sending 9 people, and Mike Tomlin is willing to risk his top QB to rush him into the game, then I would say go for his bad knee. I think the only way we win if Ben plays is to knock him out of the game. If we can do that, we will win regardless of whether Ben starts or not. Some people will call this dirty football, I just call it football. No one told Tomlin to start an injured Ben, so that's the risk you take.

I only take them one at a time, no sense worrying about the Browns if we lose to the Steelers. If we lose to the Steelers, its time to let the young guys and the backups play and see what we have as a core before we start rebuilding this off-season.

[Minionhunter]

  14 minutes ago, steelcityraven said:

The Vikings OC (Norv Turner) has just resigned. I think with Norvs success elsewhere.... he may be able to boost our offensive production enough to change that win total prediction?

Beat me to it. I think we should sign him right now as a QB coach or whatever. Get him unless we are going to go after Mike Shanahan as OC [the blog which suggested him as HC is crazy] to completely revamp the system into what Gary started to build, but to include a succession plan for the next OC when MShan is hired as a head coach again. Unless we go that route, we should be pursuing Norv Turner ASAP with a full court press.

I may have to change my mind with this based on listening to a lot of Viks fans comments, just like Bears fans comments on Trestman. They are saying Norv is not West Coast and Shurmer the TE coach will take over and run a west coast system like they ran in the first 5 weeks.

[ellicottraven]

I have always been a great fan of Pierce and predicted that he would make the 53. Little did I know he would be the best rookie alongside Stanley in this year's draft!

[ellicottraven]

As for the next 5 games, unless something changes with this offense, I can't predict we win any games except maybe against the Browns unless they decide to show up for the first time against us and we play down to their level. For some reason Joe has to play well and he's got to be protected well for us to have a chance to win any one of these games. If Ben plays, we lose. We lose against the Bengals. We surely lose against the Cowboys. We may lose against the Dolphins and we may win against the Browns. But, I am still keeping my hopes alive for a sweep of these 5 games despite my head calling my heart weak and idiotic.

[eze17]

Tomlin's quote on Mike Wallace: "I'm not acknowledging he's gotten better at anything", then semi back tracks "I wasn't identifying it as any known area of weakness"...yeah, right, if he'd thought Wallace was o.k. at route running and underneath plays the Squeelers would have incorporated that into their game plans. That's why he called him a one trick pony. No love lost between these two, Wallace has got to be stoked to go out and put up big numbers against his old team. Hope he can burn them for a couple scores.

[KidNme]

Weather it's the Steelers or the Browns, we tend to keep them close no matter who we play. I have little doubt that we'll play better after having the Bye and with the extra week to game plan, we should be able to throw in a few wrinkles that get the Squeelrs off balance, for the 1st half. It's the 2nd half we tend to suck at. Both teams are rested so no real advantage there. My man cave will be split between Steeler fans and Ravens fans this weekend so although I do expect a close game, we need to pull it out or I'll be hearing it for at least the rest of the season. The players may be able to forget the "last game" but us fans have to live with it forever! :-)
LET's GO RAVENS!!!

[CQ1]

"Predicting"?.......Really?........If it weren't for our early season special teams we would have a big zero for wins. No thanks to the offense- other than the offensiveness of it. Ill keep it simple-zero- unless they are open to change and, or the will to change. Show me something. Show US something.
Remember, rose-colored glasses fans- Mallett beat Pittsburgh last year.

[metalraven]

Along with the Norv thing, all fans should look at the Vikings, 5-0 and rolling with crazy predictions of glory and making Bradford look amazing. Then their O-line falls apart and into total shambles and they look terrible and it is making their defense look terrible who during the 5 game winning streak was the best in football.

So Ravens fans, sound like any team you know of? When your QB coming off short healing time for an ACL has his line fall apart, maybe you should be looking at the line and not casting blame to everyone but the line.... Why does Dallas look so good? Best line in football couldn't be a factor in making the rookie QB and rookie RB look great, couldn't it?

Also, note that Kyle Long can't even get out of his stance on MNF and he was brought in to shore up the LT spot when MN's LT was injured. Looks like Ozzie knew what he was doing with that one....

The blame is on EVERYONE, including Flacco. Accept it, man. Flacco is part of the problem, too.

[CQ1]

Weather it's the Steelers or the Browns, we tend to keep them close no matter who we play. I have little doubt that we'll play better after having the Bye and with the extra week to game plan, we should be able to throw in a few wrinkles that get the Squeelrs off balance, for the 1st half. It's the 2nd half we tend to suck at. Both teams are rested so no real advantage there. My man cave will be split between Steeler fans and Ravens fans this weekend so although I do expect a close game, we need to pull it out or I'll be hearing it for at least the rest of the season. The players may be able to forget the "last game" but us fans have to live with it forever! :-)
LET's GO RAVENS!!!

Good luck in your man cave with Squeely fans, KidNme :)
Yes- LET's GO RAVENS!!!

[griffrb]

I'm amazed there's a discussion about the next 5 games. With all our faults, we need to be focused on righting the ship and winning next Sunday. Let the future come later.

[woolly61]

I think the biggest threat to the Ravens in this game is Ben Roethlisberger. If he plays, then I think we lose. We have proven we can stop LeVeon Bell. We have done it a number of times and run defense is our strength. However, when Ben is out (isn't playing) against us they are 1-4 and I think that is because his replacements over the years, haven't been able to scramble to give receivers like Antonio Brown, Sammy Coates, and others, time to shake coverage, I don't think Landry Jones as a pocket passer will be successful either. Dean Pees defense is not a Rex Ryan/Chuck Pagano style attacking defense, how many times have we heard bend not break. Well, with Ben, we break with the others we have just bent.

The other side of the coin is this, if by some miracle, Dean Pees finally can generate a pass rush without sending 9 people, and Mike Tomlin is willing to risk his top QB to rush him into the game, then I would say go for his bad knee. I think the only way we win if Ben plays is to knock him out of the game. If we can do that, we will win regardless of whether Ben starts or not. Some people will call this dirty football, I just call it football. No one told Tomlin to start an injured Ben, so that's the risk you take.

I only take them one at a time, no sense worrying about the Browns if we lose to the Steelers. If we lose to the Steelers, its time to let the young guys and the backups play and see what we have as a core before we start rebuilding this off-season.

For what it's worth, Roethlisberger has a 9-8 won-loss record versus Baltimore in the regular season (6-5 since 2008 when Flacco became the QB), including 2-6 at Baltimore (2-4 since 2008) and a 2-1 record in the playoffs versus the Ravens, with all the games played at Pittsburgh. Flacco's regular season W-L is 8-7 versus the Steelers, including 4-3 at home, and, obviously, 1-2 on the road in the playoffs.

During Roethlisberger's 17 games versus the Ravens, he went 326-545 (59.8%) for 3,906 yards, 27 TD, 18 INT, 7.17 AY/A, had an 84.5 QB rating, and was sacked 50 times. His average stat line roughly looks like 19-32 for 230 with almost 1.5 TD and 1 INT.

In Flacco's 15 games he went 304 - 507 (60.0%) for 3,284 yards, 18 TD, 7 INT, 6.57 AY/A, had an 85.1 QB rating, and was sacked 42 times. His average line looks like 20-34 for 219 with 1 TD and .5 INT.

In the playoffs, Roethlisberger's stat lines: 16-33, 255, 1, 0, 84.8 rating, W; 19-32, 226, 2, 0, 101.8, W; 31-45, 334, 1, 2, 79.3, L ... Flacco's stat lines: 13-30, 141, 0, 3, 18.2, L; 16-30, 125, 1, 1, 61.1, L; 18-29, 259, 2, 0, 114.0, W ...Raven losses were in 2008 & 2010, win was in 2014.

[Bat-mite]

Just to let you know, right before the broadcast, Qadry was seen drinking some purple Koolaid backstage.

[RavenLunatic]

@MetalRaven
I've made several posts recently about how the FO put us in this position.

They knew Joe was coming off a major injury, so what do they do? They draft a RT. Great. Oh, but they let go of Osemele and started the rookie. NOT GREAT!!! Now Stanley's injured and I'm sure Yanda is hurt from over compensating at his position, or as a result of Stanley's performance. What the heck? was the FO thinking on that one??? Biggest mistake since letting go of Boldin IMO. I could go on about the lack of quality draft picks since 08 as well.

This team stinks because the FO has lost it's touch.

[hen826957]

We might see a little improvement after the bye but it might be too little too late for the playoffs. We can't go in the playoffs as a wildcard, they gonna have to go to the playoffs as a division winner. Too many decent teams are gonna be battling for a wild card spot Bills, Dolphins, Raiders etc. We have to take advantage of this weak AFC North this year for a chances to make the playoffs.

Edited November 2, 2016 by hen826957

[The Greek]

we will win sunday whether ben plays or not. i feel this team will play with a sense of urgency and will get it done and please hire norv turner as a consultant for the rest of the season to put pressure on marty.

[ellicottraven]

Just now, The Greek said:

we will win sunday whether ben plays or not. i feel this team will play with a sense of urgency and will get it done and please hire norv turner as a consultant for the rest of the season to put pressure on marty.

I totally second that Norv Turner idea. In fact I think they absolutely must hire him for some offensive inspiration. We are absolutely atrocious on offense, especially our passing offense looks terrible.

[eze17]

We might see a little improvement after the bye but it might be too little too late for the playoffs. We can't go in the playoffs as a wildcard, they gonna have to go to the playoffs as a division winner. Too many decent teams are gonna be battling for a wild card spot Bill, Dolphins, Raiders etc. We have to take advantage of this weak AFC North this year for a chance to make the playoffs.

I agree.

[Halshayeji]

53 minutes ago, woolly61 said:

For what it's worth, Roethlisberger has a 9-8 won-loss record versus Baltimore in the regular season (6-5 since 2008 when Flacco became the QB), including 2-6 at Baltimore (2-4 since 2008) and a 2-1 record in the playoffs versus the Ravens, with all the games played at Pittsburgh. Flacco's regular season W-L is 8-7 versus the Steelers, including 4-3 at home, and, obviously, 1-2 on the road in the playoffs.

During Roethlisberger's 17 games versus the Ravens, he went 326-545 (59.8%) for 3,906 yards, 27 TD, 18 INT, 7.17 AY/A, had an 84.5 QB rating, and was sacked 50 times. His average stat line roughly looks like 19-32 for 230 with almost 1.5 TD and 1 INT.

In Flacco's 15 games he went 304 - 507 (60.0%) for 3,284 yards, 18 TD, 7 INT, 6.57 AY/A, had an 85.1 QB rating, and was sacked 42 times. His average line looks like 20-34 for 219 with 1 TD and .5 INT.

In the playoffs, Roethlisberger's stat lines: 16-33, 255, 1, 0, 84.8 rating, W; 19-32, 226, 2, 0, 101.8, W; 31-45, 334, 1, 2, 79.3, L ... Flacco's stat lines: 13-30, 141, 0, 3, 18.2, L; 16-30, 125, 1, 1, 61.1, L; 18-29, 259, 2, 0, 114.0, W ...Raven losses were in 2008 & 2010, win was in 2014.

For what it's worth. That was my fav post. Thank you