[News] Late For Work 11/1: Lots Of Chatter Concerning Brandon Williams' Future

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[PurpleRainBlackVeins]

Puzzling to me how they will let a player who has consistently played well and is hardly injured like B Williams walk and keep a brittle and inconsistent player like Webby around and pay him top dollar. I'm no GM but something has to change in the philosophy of who to keep and who to let walk.

[Ravensbest52]

Puzzling to me how they will let a player who has consistently played well and is hardly injured like B Williams walk and keep a brittle and inconsistent player like Webby around and pay him top dollar. I'm no GM but something has to change in the philosophy of who to keep and who to let walk.

agreed. We need to change our thinking in which we let our guys that produce walk and keep those that don't. Resigning wright was a mistake and could have used that money else where.

[bioLarzen]

"While Williams will likely finish out his rookie contract in Baltimore, there will still be a very real question as to whether the Ravens can pay him enough to keep him in the purple and black beyond 2016."

Are we really going through that every single season? There's a player every season who's gonna be an UFA and we all know we won't be able to keep hium, because he's gonna be well outside our price range. That was the case with Grubbs, Ellerbe, McPhee, Torrey Smith and Osemele. And this is gonna be the same with Brandon Williams. He's gonna be way, way outside our price range. Ergo, trading him now would, indeed - proivded a third-round pick or better is what we get for him - be the most beneficial decision.

Unfortunately, it's not happening. It'll be great to have him for the rest of the season - but we'll get less for him in the summer.

[Edug27]

6 minutes ago, Ravensbest52 said:

agreed. We need to change our thinking in which we let our guys that produce walk and keep those that don't. Resigning wright was a mistake and could have used that money else where.

Well I guess the question becomes... Which players did we let walk and have gone on to be as successful or more so with the next team?

[KidNme]

I'd really like to see us keep the good ones like Brandon! I know money is always an issue but I really like BW and think he's perfect for our team. We can't keep letting our best players go, citing "can't pay him". I agree with PurpleRain, we have to do better with who we let go and who we keep. Team loyalty is out the window these days and I believe that has to change otherwise, we'll always be relying on our young, unproven 3rd to 5th round prospects dictate who we are. If Flacco wants protection, let him pay for it! An incentive based pay for everyone would do a world of wonders for our team I think.

[VermontRaven]

"While Williams will likely finish out his rookie contract in Baltimore, there will still be a very real question as to whether the Ravens can pay him enough to keep him in the purple and black beyond 2016."

Are we really going through that every single season? There's a player every season who's gonna be an UFA and we all know we won't be able to keep hium, because he's gonna be well outside our price range. That was the case with Grubbs, Ellerbe, McPhee, Torrey Smith and Osemele. And this is gonna be the same with Brandon Williams. He's gonna be way, way outside our price range. Ergo, trading him now would, indeed - proivded a third-round pick or better is what we get for him - be the most beneficial decision.

Unfortunately, it's not happening. It'll be great to have him for the rest of the season - but we'll get less for him in the summer.

I agree. I think Williams will be gone after the season, and I believe it will be the right decision. Ravens are great at finding quality defensive linemen in draft (and undrafted) I would much rather the Ravens spend the money on another position we struggle at more--WR, CB, etc. As for the trade possibility, I don't see it happening because I don't think we have the depth to do that. If we did that and Pierce got hurt, I believe we'd be in trouble this season, but I am confident the Ravens could find (or develop) a quality depth guy behind Pierce for next season.

[stixfix69]

we might have a shot at keeping him, seeing we do having aging vets with big annual contracts we can unload....Doom, yes i said it with the play of Judon, and potential of Correa could make him expendable, Webb is probably done next year.....NT is the key in a 3-4 and i think he is worth going down the road we went with Ngata in his prime....JMO.....

[The Mom Gene]

Puzzling to me how they will let a player who has consistently played well and is hardly injured like B Williams walk and keep a brittle and inconsistent player like Webby around and pay him top dollar. I'm no GM but something has to change in the philosophy of who to keep and who to let walk.

While your statement is understood, there was a much bigger need at the time in our secondary.

[jravens1313]

We should take notes from New England and trade him for a high pick, if we already know we can't afford him.

[The Greek]

having a dt that draws double teams clears lanes for lb's or db's to get to the qb. it would be a mistake to let b. williams walk but i also understand that it would strap our cap by paying him top dollar. tough decision but we are going to let veterans go after this season to clear cap space but it will also add to our dead money

[Tdot.to.Bmore]

Sad to say but it would make more sense to let Williams go than to handicap ourselves again. We have Jernigan who has been arguably been better than Williams this year. Also the emergence of pierce could make this decision easier. If we see Peirce get more playing time down the stretch that would lead me to believe that Williams will be gone.

We need a lot more piece in the defense than just a NT. At the same time if Williams isnt as money hungry as the past FA i would love to keep him. I see us unloading several of our Vets this summer like Webb and Doom to make an effort to keep Williams. But there will always be other teams that have deep pockets, which sucks

[AsianRice]

trade BW to get a solid corner which is not a bad deal for our weak secondary....

[pocket]

.Already free agency.

Edited November 1, 2016 by pocket

[Tdot.to.Bmore]

  17 minutes ago, Tdot.to.Bmore said:

Sad to say but it would make more sense to let Williams go than to handicap ourselves again. We have Jernigan who has been arguably been better than Williams this year. Also the emergence of pierce could make this decision easier. If we see Peirce get more playing time down the stretch that would lead me to believe that Williams will be gone.

We need a lot more piece in the defense than just a NT. At the same time if Williams isnt as money hungry as the past FA i would love to keep him. I see us unloading several of our Vets this summer like Webb and Doom to make an effort to keep Williams. But there will always be other teams that have deep pockets, which sucks

Already talking free agency..

Why wouldn't we be talking about free agency?? Teams around the league are already trading players away. Its that time of year my friend.

[whobilly]

Some other team will overpay him. Players have to take the money when its there.

[ravens4life86]

Lets just say this about Brandon Williams, hes playing at a pro bowl level as a run stuffing NT/DT and block eater keeping the Lbrs clean to run free in the middle (Mosley,Orr).

A key cog in Ravens great defense historically has been the 3-4 Blockeating run stuffing NT/DT that lets our lbrs run free. Whether Goose&Adams, Ngata, now B.Williams.

So Ravens have 2 cornerstone of the future up the middle it looks like to build around with B,Williams& Mosley also a pro bowl caliber player.
But if for some reason they cant work out an extension with Big Brandon or price gets to high that'll be another thing that Ozzie will have to draft next year another franchise NT/DT, and we can talk bout how joes contract and poor play continues to crush this organization

[whobilly]

I would not have a problem with it if we could actually draft a player who would be more than our normal roster filler picks have been over the last eight years.

[PurpleRainBlackVeins]

I'd really like to see us keep the good ones like Brandon! I know money is always an issue but I really like BW and think he's perfect for our team. We can't keep letting our best players go, citing "can't pay him". I agree with PurpleRain, we have to do better with who we let go and who we keep. Team loyalty is out the window these days and I believe that has to change otherwise, we'll always be relying on our young, unproven 3rd to 5th round prospects dictate who we are. If Flacco wants protection, let him pay for it! An incentive based pay for everyone would do a world of wonders for our team I think.

AGREED!

[PurpleRainBlackVeins]

  1 hour ago, PurpleRainBlackVeins said:

Puzzling to me how they will let a player who has consistently played well and is hardly injured like B Williams walk and keep a brittle and inconsistent player like Webby around and pay him top dollar. I'm no GM but something has to change in the philosophy of who to keep and who to let walk.

agreed. We need to change our thinking in which we let our guys that produce walk and keep those that don't. Resigning wright was a mistake and could have used that money else where.

A huge mistake!! Idk what Ozzie's fascination is with underwhelming secondary players but it has to stop. Meanwhile he will let players like Boldin and Osemele walk right out that door smh.

[PurpleRainBlackVeins]

  1 hour ago, PurpleRainBlackVeins said:

Puzzling to me how they will let a player who has consistently played well and is hardly injured like B Williams walk and keep a brittle and inconsistent player like Webby around and pay him top dollar. I'm no GM but something has to change in the philosophy of who to keep and who to let walk.

While your statement is understood, there was a much bigger need at the time in our secondary.

True. But Webby was not the answer then and he's not the answer now.

[eze17]

Weddle's costume is funny...

[CQ1]

As Raven fans we all should care less who starts for Pittsburgh. It could be Terry Bradshaw for that matter. The main opponent on Sunday will be ourselves.
Lets get some of that Purple back and lets hope we see something 'different'.
Losing isn't the issue. It's how inept and boring we look doing it.
Go Ravens!

[Purple Hazard]

Not worried about Roethlisberger. We seen him before and we beaten him before. I'm more concerned about the health of our own players

[metalraven]

As Raven fans we all should care less who starts for Pittsburgh. It could be Terry Bradshaw for that matter. The main opponent on Sunday will be ourselves.
Lets get some of that Purple back and lets hope we see something 'different'.
Losing isn't the issue. It's how inept and boring we look doing it.
Go Ravens!

You're right about the Ravens being their own worst enemy. All our losses can be pinned on the Ravens, not because the opponents were better.

[budman]

2 hours ago, Edug27 said:

Well I guess the question becomes... Which players did we let walk and have gone on to be as successful or more so with the next team?

Not really because all that matters is how they did on OUR team with our coaches and our schemes. If they fail to perform on another team, that's not saying they would have gone down hill if we paid them and they stayed.

[Drew P]

Sucks, sign 2 duds like Webb and Shareece and watch a proven stud bolt for a pay day elsewhere

Edited November 1, 2016 by Drew P
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[MTRavensFan]

1 hour ago, whobilly said:

I would not have a problem with it if we could actually draft a player who would be more than our normal roster filler picks have been over the last eight years.

BWill is one of those players you're talking about. Post makes absolutely zero sense.

[Some Dumb Fan]

Sucks, sign 2 duds like Webb and Shareece and watch a proven stud bolt for a pay day elsewhere

Took the words right out of my mouth. OLine and DLine wins Super Bowls and we are going to let Williams go after KO just left. Those 2 would have been the cornerstones of our O and D line. However, I understand if we don't resign BW. Our FO is good at drafting interior lineman and linebackers. We are not good at drafting safeties and WR. Those are the positions we must target in Free agency. We just need to target them earlier in their career.

[hen826957]

It's a shame we can't afford our good players while the likes of Seattle can pay Russell Wilson, Kam Chancellor, Bobby Wagner, Richard Sherman, Earl Thomas, Michael Bennett, etc top dollar.