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2017 WR prospect thread

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8 hours ago, RavensFanMania said:

It's still a possibility we could take him this year.  Wallace is getting older and isn't under contract for 2018.  Davis is an excellent route winner and although I'd rather have a cb or edge defender in the first, I wouldn't be upset with Davis.

I'd also add that Perriman is heading towards year 3 of his rookie deal(Yeah, already) and a 5th year option might not be in the works. So you might be looking at him entering his last year of his deal in year 4 with no 1st round option. 

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Jordan Westerkamp is a guy that doesn't get talked about anymore, but I think that if we lose Aiken he'd fill that role about as well as anyone as a mid/late round pick. He's just one of those guys that's underappreciated, but I can definitely see him carving out a role at the next level. That behind the back catch of his is still legendary.

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10 hours ago, PurpleCity5 said:

I'd also add that Perriman is heading towards year 3 of his rookie deal(Yeah, already) and a 5th year option might not be in the works. So you might be looking at him entering his last year of his deal in year 4 with no 1st round option. 

Possibly, but I truly feel Perriman is going to break out this year with more targets as he becomes a bigger part of the offense. In my opinion, a 5th year option is likely.

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first 4 picks which is 1-3 rounds, would go Defense (DE/CBs) and OL. a vet WR like Garcon will be signed to plug the WR position.

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1 hour ago, omar586 said:

first 4 picks which is 1-3 rounds, would go Defense (DE/CBs) and OL. a vet WR like Garcon will be signed to plug the WR position.

Make that Brandon Marshall free agent signing and I'll be thrilled with the outcome.

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3 hours ago, RavensFanMania said:

Possibly, but I truly feel Perriman is going to break out this year with more targets as he becomes a bigger part of the offense. In my opinion, a 5th year option is likely.

I think he's going to break out too, but you just never know, you might see him break out year 4 of his deal and miss out on picking up the 5th year option. I personally thinks he emerges this year. I can't wait honestly.

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I think Corey Davis and Mike Williams are definitely better than any of the receivers we saw last class and by a strong margin. I really wouldn't be opposed to trading up for either, to get the best you'll have to pay for the best. Julio Jones shows that if you can land a supreme talent like that, it can be a franchise changer. 

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1 hour ago, PurpleCity5 said:

I think Corey Davis and Mike Williams are definitely better than any of the receivers we saw last class and by a strong margin. I really wouldn't be opposed to trading up for either, to get the best you'll have to pay for the best. Julio Jones shows that if you can land a supreme talent like that, it can be a franchise changer. 

Totally agree, but feel Davis may be there for us at 16.  If he's not someone else will be.  

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2 hours ago, PurpleCity5 said:

I think Corey Davis and Mike Williams are definitely better than any of the receivers we saw last class and by a strong margin. I really wouldn't be opposed to trading up for either, to get the best you'll have to pay for the best. Julio Jones shows that if you can land a supreme talent like that, it can be a franchise changer. 

The funny thing is up until this year the Julio draft trade was usually cited as a reason not to do it. 

Yea you might get the game changer but it leaves the cupboard too bare to continue to build. 

Now it looks fine... but they didn't contend until they got past the years of not having 1st round picks and added top talents in the draft again. 

 

Could they have stayed patient and waited to get a Beckham, Mike Evans, Brandin Cooks type guy with their own pick and gotten to the promised land sooner??

We'll never know. But going that route seems to push your contention back 3-4 years. And we don't have the window to wait that long with Joe at QB. 

 

If either is there at our pick I'm intrigued for sure and may take one depending on what the board looks like... but if they're gone I'd rather address it in FA or try and grab Kupp/Jones day 2.  

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6 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

Make that Brandon Marshall free agent signing and I'll be thrilled with the outcome.

marshall would b nice too.

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I agree with everyone saying Davis would be a good pick at 16 if he's available. I can see him being terrific at the next level. Otherwise BPA/CB.

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19 hours ago, Giants56Ravens52 said:

I agree with everyone saying Davis would be a good pick at 16 if he's available. I can see him being terrific at the next level. Otherwise BPA/CB.

yeah im coming round to that opinion more and more now - i feel more confident in picking davis at 16 even over a couple of the corners that might be there as well

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As much as it would be nice to snag Davis at 16. I think the team is going to look at the depth, and we're going to be "excited" by building the trenches with BPA in the first three rounds and wind up with a WR that no one is talking about on the last day

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7 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

yeah im coming round to that opinion more and more now - i feel more confident in picking davis at 16 even over a couple of the corners that might be there as well

This is a very deep corner draft. Can probably grab what would have been a 1st round corner in most other drafts in the mid-late 2nd round this year. I'm honestly not sure if Davis will make it down to #16 as I think his draft stock is going to continue to shoot up leading up to the draft, but he may also be worth trading up for if the price isn't too high. I really see his ceiling as a top ten WR in the NFL, and floor of a solid #2. I know there is always some chance that a guy could be a bust, but I just don't see it being a very high chance with Davis. 

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8 minutes ago, Baltimore RAYvens said:

As much as it would be nice to snag Davis at 16. I think the team is going to look at the depth, and we're going to be "excited" by building the trenches with BPA in the first three rounds and wind up with a WR that no one is talking about on the last day

as per usual it will come down to BPA - we will likely get one of our top 14 guys maybe a higher guy as well if a third qb and maybe an olineman or two goes first

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On 2/5/2017 at 1:26 PM, ellicottraven said:

Make that Brandon Marshall free agent signing and I'll be thrilled with the outcome.

Speaking of Marshall. Wasn't he charged of DV in the past????? Everyone knows he had a troubled past. If so then idk if Ozzie will take him. 

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Just now, ravensnation5220 said:

Speaking of Marshall. Wasn't he charged of DV in the past????? Everyone knows he had a troubled past. If so then idk if Ozzie will take him. 

Hmm... didn't think about that. But, wasn't it thrown out of court or something like that?

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1 minute ago, ellicottraven said:

Hmm... didn't think about that. But, wasn't it thrown out of court or something like that?

I'm not sure but I just looked it up and he had at least 9 DV accusations.....thats not good lol. Especially for the ravens. Now I have a hard time believing He is a legitimate option

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2 hours ago, ravensnation5220 said:

I'm not sure but I just looked it up and he had at least 9 DV accusations.....thats not good lol. Especially for the ravens. Now I have a hard time believing He is a legitimate option

Oh I had forgotten about that - credit to him to how he's turned his career/lifestyle around but, still, we'll see how far the 'no DV' mandate stretches.

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Anybody else noticing the rise of Corey Davis and the fall of Mike Williams in recent mock drafts? Makes me excited to possibly have Mike Williams potentially falling. 

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3 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

as per usual it will come down to BPA - we will likely get one of our top 14 guys maybe a higher guy as well if a third qb and maybe an olineman or two goes first

I'm tired of trying to get excited about guys we take by having to convince myself that having a guy who is at a position that won't have much of an impact, but is marginally better than someone at a position that would step into a need

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27 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

Anybody else noticing the rise of Corey Davis and the fall of Mike Williams in recent mock drafts? Makes me excited to possibly have Mike Williams potentially falling. 

If he's falling there may be a good reason for it. Something we don't yet know perhaps? Players don't arbitrarily slide imo.

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11 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:

If he's falling there may be a good reason for it. Something we don't yet know perhaps? Players don't arbitrarily slide imo.

I don't think it is because of him. I think it is just because of the Corey Davis hype that is now there. People are still kind of iffy that he is from a small school, but the last few weeks I think analysts have been putting more stock into his physical traits. I would like either on this team at 16. I am an advocate to get Flacco weapons. Seeing how Julio bailed out Ryan a few times in the Super Bowl is a reminder of what this team hasn't had.

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Big Corey Davis fan but I'll take williams over him any day.

hes got the clutch gene, better physical traits, and is only semi raw and ready to produce now. 

I still doubt he falls to 16

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7 hours ago, trevorsteadman said:

I don't think it is because of him. I think it is just because of the Corey Davis hype that is now there. People are still kind of iffy that he is from a small school, but the last few weeks I think analysts have been putting more stock into his physical traits. I would like either on this team at 16. I am an advocate to get Flacco weapons. Seeing how Julio bailed out Ryan a few times in the Super Bowl is a reminder of what this team hasn't had.

But for Julio Atlanta gave up the kitchen sink to trade up to 5 where they drafted him. I don't think the Ravens have the courage or conviction to bet all the marbles to go get him. Steve Bisciotti maybe does, but Ozzie and John won't ever let him. 

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2 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Big Corey Davis fan but I'll take williams over him any day.

hes got the clutch gene, better physical traits, and is only semi raw and ready to produce now. 

I still doubt he falls to 16

If he falls beyond 10 do you think we need to trade up for him the way Atlanta did for Julio but maybe not give up as much? We need a deadly weapon in our offensive arsenal now!

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9 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

If he falls beyond 10 do you think we need to trade up for him the way Atlanta did for Julio but maybe not give up as much? We need a deadly weapon in our offensive arsenal now!

We likely need to pass philly for him because there is 0% chance they pass on him

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12 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Big Corey Davis fan but I'll take williams over him any day.

hes got the clutch gene, better physical traits, and is only semi raw and ready to produce now. 

I still doubt he falls to 16

Is his neck thing okay? Don't really watch much college football and only heard about that in the championship game

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1 hour ago, berad said:

Is his neck thing okay? Don't really watch much college football and only heard about that in the championship game

He broke his neck his junior year but ultimately I'm sure he was cleared or he wouldn't of played the following season (which was this last season). I was scared off a bit by his neck issue a bit ago but I don't think there is anything to fear there now.

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