2017 WR prospect thread

[reed20]

Corey Davis' injury a bit more serious than originally thought. Could miss the combine. If he falls in the draft we could draft a corner and still get our guy in the 2nd.

[JoeyFlex5]

2 hours ago, reed20 said:

Corey Davis' injury a bit more serious than originally thought. Could miss the combine. If he falls in the draft we could draft a corner and still get our guy in the 2nd.

I'd be shocked if Davis falls to 48 from one injury. The eagles and 49ers both pick before us in the 2nd lol and there's no way both of hem let him go

[Drew P]

5 hours ago, reed20 said:

Corey Davis' injury a bit more serious than originally thought. Could miss the combine. If he falls in the draft we could draft a corner and still get our guy in the 2nd.

Their pro day isn't scheduled yet so depending on the severity injury he still has a legit chance to dazzle the scouts

[trevorsteadman]

Question is do you guys see the Ravens taking a wide receiver in the first 3 rounds if they trade for or sign a veteran receiver? Maybe if Aiken leaves...

Edited February 1 by trevorsteadman

[rossihunter2]

26 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

Question is do you guys see the Ravens taking a wide receiver in the first 3 rounds if they trade for or sign a veteran receiver? Maybe if Aiken leaves...

depends how the board falls - there are guys id take at each of our picks but there might be better value in others there...

[reed20]

55 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

Question is do you guys see the Ravens taking a wide receiver in the first 3 rounds if they trade for or sign a veteran receiver? Maybe if Aiken leaves...

Nope. Three good wide receivers is all we need. The 4th guy would barely see any playing time. We need to address center, secondary, and the pass rush.

[Drew P]

1 hour ago, trevorsteadman said:

Question is do you guys see the Ravens taking a wide receiver in the first 3 rounds if they trade for or sign a veteran receiver? Maybe if Aiken leaves...

As of right now they almost have to unless they are content with the status quo of another Tommy Streeter or some other nobody

[Jacquouille]

1 hour ago, trevorsteadman said:

Question is do you guys see the Ravens taking a wide receiver in the first 3 rounds if they trade for or sign a veteran receiver? Maybe if Aiken leaves...

Potentially a 3rd on Juju of Ford (if they fall) would make some sense, otherwise I wouldn't hate it but def wouldn't like it either.

[RaineV1]

1 hour ago, trevorsteadman said:

Question is do you guys see the Ravens taking a wide receiver in the first 3 rounds if they trade for or sign a veteran receiver? Maybe if Aiken leaves...

Barring Mike Williams or them falling in love with Davis, I don't see them going WR in the first two rounds. The third has some interesting WRs though, and things could shake out in a way that the WR there is obviously the best pick.

[hn68wb4]

21 hours ago, reed20 said:

Corey Davis' injury a bit more serious than originally thought. Could miss the combine. If he falls in the draft we could draft a corner and still get our guy in the 2nd.

I doubt it's any more serious than first reported, he just doesn't want to - or was advised not to - show up and run at the combine without having any time to prepare. I would be shocked if his stock is affected at all by this, he wasn't one of the guys expected to blow up the combine regardless and by all accounts he will be ready for his pro day, teams will be in attendance and get everything they want.

[RaineV1]

According to DeCosta the Ravens are looking for: "I think we're looking for a guy that can catch the ball, move the chains and get critical first downs when needed." He added that he wanted someone that could line up all over the field, similar to how SSS did.

Aside from the top couple of guys, Zay Jones and Evan Engram seem to perfectly fit what the Ravens want. 

[ravensnation5220]

2 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

According to DeCosta the Ravens are looking for: "I think we're looking for a guy that can catch the ball, move the chains and get critical first downs when needed." He added that he wanted someone that could line up all over the field, similar to how SSS did.

Aside from the top couple of guys, Zay Jones and Evan Engram seem to perfectly fit what the Ravens want. 

If you look at the quote it's so broad. I mean a receivers job is to catch the ball and get first downs......that doesn't tell me anything really. That's like saying "I want a running back who can run and get first downs". I don't read into much of what horitz and decosta say because they're not going to offer much information and give away who were targeting in the draft. It's all smokescreen and mirrors so other NFL teams don't have a clue who we want

[RaineV1]

1 minute ago, ravensnation5220 said:

If you look at the quote it's so broad. I mean a receivers job is to catch the ball and get first downs......that doesn't tell me anything really. That's like saying "I want a running back who can run and get first downs". I don't read into much of what horitz and decosta say because they're not going to offer much information and give away who were targeting in the draft. It's all smokescreen and mirrors so other NFL teams don't have a clue who we want

That isn't really as broad as it seems. Yeah, it's a receiver's job to catch the ball, but many are far better at making important catches than others (Boldin being a prime example of that).

[berad]

33 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

According to DeCosta the Ravens are looking for: "I think we're looking for a guy that can catch the ball, move the chains and get critical first downs when needed." He added that he wanted someone that could line up all over the field, similar to how SSS did.

Aside from the top couple of guys, Zay Jones and Evan Engram seem to perfectly fit what the Ravens want. 

Maybe, but judging by that quote and what they've done in the past, they're more likely to target a veteran. I'd love them to draft and develop, though.

[rmw10]

24 minutes ago, berad said:

Maybe, but judging by that quote and what they've done in the past, they're more likely to target a veteran. I'd love them to draft and develop, though.

That was how I viewed it as well.  I don't doubt we'll draft a guy as well, but when I was watching that video, my immediate thought was a veteran.

I mentioned it in one of the threads in RT, but I felt that description fit Garcon perfectly.

[berad]

9 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

That was how I viewed it as well.  I don't doubt we'll draft a guy as well, but when I was watching that video, my immediate thought was a veteran.

I mentioned it in one of the threads in RT, but I felt that description fit Garcon perfectly.

Yes, I love Garcon and I hope that's it.

Brandon Marshall (if cut) could be a dark horse. Jeffrey will be pricey. Probably the same with Pryor, plus he doesn't fit what they want.

edit - Away from that, though... if they were to get a guy like that in the mid-to-late rounds, who would be an option?

Edited February 2 by berad

[allblackraven]

2 hours ago, rmw10 said:

That was how I viewed it as well.  I don't doubt we'll draft a guy as well, but when I was watching that video, my immediate thought was a veteran.

I mentioned it in one of the threads in RT, but I felt that description fit Garcon perfectly.

Garcon + ArDarius Stewart. I would be fine with that if we don't give more than comp 3rd for Stewart.

[Baltimore RAYvens]

It seems to me like there is much better value in the mid-rounds for WR than there is for any other position in this class. Getting a guy like Ford, Kupp, Jones, or Stewart in the third seems like a better value than Davis or Williams in the first.

[JoeyFlex5]

6 hours ago, RaineV1 said:

According to DeCosta the Ravens are looking for: "I think we're looking for a guy that can catch the ball, move the chains and get critical first downs when needed." He added that he wanted someone that could line up all over the field, similar to how SSS did.

Aside from the top couple of guys, Zay Jones and Evan Engram seem to perfectly fit what the Ravens want. 

I would love to see us take engram at 48. He looks like a new breed of slot receiver to me, and a guy who would become joes favorite target really quickly. 

Hes a guy who really doesn't get enough attention around here

[ravensnation5220]

5 hours ago, berad said:

Yes, I love Garcon and I hope that's it.

Brandon Marshall (if cut) could be a dark horse. Jeffrey will be pricey. Probably the same with Pryor, plus he doesn't fit what they want.

edit - Away from that, though... if they were to get a guy like that in the mid-to-late rounds, who would be an option?

I would say Chris godwin from Penn st or Darrius Rogers from USC are 2 possession type receiver we could target in mid rounds. Both have great hands and jump ball skills. They win a lot of 50-50 balls

[RavensDieHard21]

Def hoping Ford is there in the third. He is a shifty, yet savvy route runner that can move the chains for us.outside of M. Williams, there really won't be that much value early for WRs

[JoeyFlex5]

7 hours ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

Def hoping Ford is there in the third. He is a shifty, yet savvy route runner that can move the chains for us.outside of M. Williams, there really won't be that much value early for WRs

Agreed, ford wasn't given the full route tree at VT and I think had he played for Alabama or USC or Clemson he would be a definite 2nd rounder. I think he's the best route runner in the class and he has shown this using mostly flys and hitches, if he was running a lot more slants/sluggos  and deep ins/outs his film would probably look a lot better. His body is real twitchy at his break and he keeps defenders guessing, and he cuts decisively and explodes out of his breaks.

[RavensDieHard21]

2 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Agreed, ford wasn't given the full route tree at VT and I think had he played for Alabama or USC or Clemson he would be a definite 2nd rounder. I think he's the best route runner in the class and he has shown this using mostly flys and hitches, if he was running a lot more slants/sluggos  and deep ins/outs his film would probably look a lot better. His body is real twitchy at his break and he keeps defenders guessing, and he cuts decisively and explodes out of his breaks.

Ya I really like the Landry comparison. Only difference is that Landry made miraculous catches on the regular at LSU. 

[ravensnation5220]

21 hours ago, RaineV1 said:

That isn't really as broad as it seems. Yeah, it's a receiver's job to catch the ball, but many are far better at making important catches than others (Boldin being a prime example of that).

Can't forget about ardarius Stewart from Alabama then. He seemed to make clutch plays on a regular for the tide. He's not talked about much but I really like him. Tough guy and I think he's much faster than given credit for. Seems like he'd be a great contributor on special teams as well

[Drew P]

We have to err on the side of caution and understand this is the Ravens and selecting WR's is their Achilles heel. Toss the big board out the window and look deep into the draft at guys from Mayberry college and spares that never sniffed the field.

[CalvinSmoke]

Im bit completely sure we draft one in the first 4 rounds. Chris Moore got open quite a bit, just couldn't hold on to the rock. And with campenaro, i can truly see the Ravens staying pat with one veteran free agent.

[Gruntled Ravens Fan]

I think we should try and target Keon Hatcher Wr out of Arkansas in the 6th or 7th round. He was able to put up decent stats on an average offense in the SEC. He also has good size which is something we need from our receivers.

Keon Hatcher, WR, Arkansas

Things haven't always been easy for Hatcher during his time in Fayetteville, as his inconsistent hands have caused heartburn for coaches and fans on occasion. But when he's able to concentrate on the easier catches as well as he does on the more difficult ones, opponents must pay close attention to him on every play due to his combination of size (6-2, 210) and speed. Hatcher led the run-first Arkansas squad with 558 yards and six touchdowns receiving in 2014, and will probably put up similar numbers this year with two 1,000-yard rushers on the roster (Alex Collins, Jonathan Williams). Gaudy numbers are less important to NFL teams than athleticism and producing when given the chance; Hatcher could climb up boards if he's able to display both over the next year."

[Willbacker]

6 minutes ago, Gruntled Ravens Fan said:

I think we should try and target Keon Hatcher Wr out of Arkansas in the 6th or 7th round. He was able to put up decent stats on an average offense in the SEC. He also has good size which is something we need from our receivers.

Keon Hatcher, WR, Arkansas

Things haven't always been easy for Hatcher during his time in Fayetteville, as his inconsistent hands have caused heartburn for coaches and fans on occasion. But when he's able to concentrate on the easier catches as well as he does on the more difficult ones, opponents must pay close attention to him on every play due to his combination of size (6-2, 210) and speed. Hatcher led the run-first Arkansas squad with 558 yards and six touchdowns receiving in 2014, and will probably put up similar numbers this year with two 1,000-yard rushers on the roster (Alex Collins, Jonathan Williams). Gaudy numbers are less important to NFL teams than athleticism and producing when given the chance; Hatcher could climb up boards if he's able to display both over the next year."

I like Drew Morgan better out of Arkansas (steadier hands) but another poster mentioned Chris Godwin (Penn St) as a nice mid rd option and I 100% agree.

[January J]

20 hours ago, Gruntled Ravens Fan said:

I think we should try and target Keon Hatcher Wr out of Arkansas in the 6th or 7th round. He was able to put up decent stats on an average offense in the SEC. He also has good size which is something we need from our receivers.

Keon Hatcher, WR, Arkansas

Things haven't always been easy for Hatcher during his time in Fayetteville, as his inconsistent hands have caused heartburn for coaches and fans on occasion. But when he's able to concentrate on the easier catches as well as he does on the more difficult ones, opponents must pay close attention to him on every play due to his combination of size (6-2, 210) and speed. Hatcher led the run-first Arkansas squad with 558 yards and six touchdowns receiving in 2014, and will probably put up similar numbers this year with two 1,000-yard rushers on the roster (Alex Collins, Jonathan Williams). Gaudy numbers are less important to NFL teams than athleticism and producing when given the chance; Hatcher could climb up boards if he's able to display both over the next year."

The last thing we need is another receiver with sketchy hands.

[RavensFanMania]

On 2/1/2017 at 8:53 AM, trevorsteadman said:

Question is do you guys see the Ravens taking a wide receiver in the first 3 rounds if they trade for or sign a veteran receiver? Maybe if Aiken leaves...

It's still a possibility we could take him this year.  Wallace is getting older and isn't under contract for 2018.  Davis is an excellent route winner and although I'd rather have a cb or edge defender in the first, I wouldn't be upset with Davis.