[News] Eisenberg: Pre-Bye Facts, Opinions And Awards

[BR News]

The midseason MVP easily belongs to kicker Justin Tucker, but several other players deserve recognition.

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[CQ1]

FACT: We are underachieving
OPINION: Yes, we are underachieving. Please tell us something new, CQ.....blah blah.

An NFL OPINION:
Is it me, or,....are there flags every other play- all around? The game has no flow, but more importantly, the game appears to be evolving into a type of flag football league The worst part of it is how the QB is paid and is protected by all of the, cant cough near him rules. This is ridiculous from how the game used to be. Simply put, the career and the health of the QB are far more important (yes, the QB is the most important player of the tem- in gist) than the welfare of the players of other positions. I do not know enough of the union of the players, but if I play a position other than QB, I am going to be rather sour. The fact that the NFL continuously preaches safety is a load of 100% bull. The mere fact that there is Thursday night football strongly contradicts that........
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Opinions ?................

[eze17]

Yes, the officiating in the NFL is horrendous. And to add to that, defensive players are being fined at a record pace.To be honest, most of our players from the 2000 championship team would be fined so badly that they would essentially be paying to play in the league. We all love Ray Lewis in Baltimore, but in today's version of pro football he would probably be suspended forever for making the hits that he made every game day. Yet the NFL is puzzled why ratings are down...

[crazyboutravens]

OK so we have bad officiating, bad play, no real practice time for players because of the new contract. Players were hurt less when they actually practiced against
each other on a weekly basis. It is time to go back to real football. Less injuries
better play because of better practice and put the officials in the less is more category. Oh and by the way fire Roger.

[Raven in ATL]

when your team's best player is the PK............. i will be focusing more on college football rest of the season, try to look for gems to hope for in the upcoming draft

[mearzunkies]

The NFL needs a "college" of sort for their officials.

[bluehen]

Yes Justin has done a great job, however, the offense has been so terrible, that we have had to settle for field goals.

[eze17]

I've been happy with the way Orr has played...coming into the season this was a wide open job, and he has done some good work at his position.

[RailBird]

The fact that a kicker is our mid-season MVP pretty much sums up what's wrong with this team (and in particular, the offense). Don't get me wrong, I like Justin Tucker and I'm glad that we have him, but your kicker should not be the (mid-)season MVP.

[balfan23]

1 hour ago, RailBird said:

The fact that a kicker is our mid-season MVP pretty much sums up what's wrong with this team (and in particular, the offense). Don't get me wrong, I like Justin Tucker and I'm glad that we have him, but your kicker should not be the (mid-)season MVP.

Absolutely. The guy has been great. Helps take the sting out of A. Brown being a bust. Good to see we filled that spot, regardless of whether it is filled by a high round pick or an UDFA. 

[dirtybird66]

year in and year out our punter and kicker our are only MVP pro bowl selection,will that get us to a super bowl? i think not.thare has been alot of bust in our drafts lately starting with SERGIO KINDALL,granted we have drafted later in each round,but atleast a few of our first rounders should be on MVP rosters,thats a fact.in the NFL a kicker is useually not talked about as a REAL type of player,thank GOD TUCKER is because he's all of our scoring.there are several ways to keep FLACCO upright in the pocket,a little creativity like rolling away from where the pressures coming from or MAX protect with two TIGHT ENDS on long pass plays in play action and always give him that check down guy like YUSCHECK,(forgive the spelling) and designed qb run plays for 6-7 yards to the side line,then,maybe just then we would get an MVP besides on special teams.in the REDZONE use of the READ OPTION will get our offense in the endzone instead of always relying on our only true team MVP. get alittle creative and keep things simple as MORNINGWIG did with MCNABB,FLACCO'S pretty much a knuckle dragger and has ZERP pocket presance,he gets that deer in the headlights look when the pocket collapses,it actually is time to really evaluate the QB. position after this season,eat or cut a majority of his ELITE contract,(he was ELITE) for 4 or 5 games in 1 season,but we need to start looking for a headdy player at the most important position on our team,someone like MAHOMES I get excited about,the sad thing the RAVENS front office doesn't realize yet is this league and QB position is turning to qb's that can move and run away from pressure,like TYROD TAYLOR,so sad that once he left and was utilized properly and blossomed,not a full time runner like RG3, but a qb that reads and reacts the pressure and in a last resort,smartly picks up yardage with his feet.now adays you really need a guy like that,also RUSSEL comes to mind that can counter act the greater pass rush in the league now and not just only be a stand your ground QB like FLACCO is,especially with a patch work rookie offensive line,as QB are more faced with making plays smartly with there feet.

[dirtybird66]

The fact that a kicker is our mid-season MVP pretty much sums up what's wrong with this team (and in particular, the offense). Don't get me wrong, I like Justin Tucker and I'm glad that we have him, but your kicker should not be the (mid-)season MVP.

sadly looking back our punter and kicker are always the few going to the PRO BOWL,sadly that won't get you to a superbowl,he might win it if you get there though.

[dirtybird66]

one thing people have to remember is that for years wev'e picked in the last half of every round of the draft so thats pretty much reflects that in the worth to the team.

[purpledown]

the talent evaluation is finally showing up, too many blown draft picks especially in the 1st round.

[sami]

The NFL needs a "college" of sort for their officials.

what they need are full time officials

[TheConquerorWorm]

the talent evaluation is finally showing up, too many blown draft picks especially in the 1st round.

That's every team in the NFL.....name one that hasn't had a blown pick in the 1st Round....

[The Beak]

Ive stated on here before , ravens are paying the Price for, poor drafting, poor coaching, and settling for lower talented FA, (this year has been better with Wallace& Weddle) Our edge rushers are way below avg. we rarely get any pressure on the QB, Elvis and Terell have lost thier doom & sizzle, and the others guys are just lower caliber players,* I Think We Need A Shakeup*

[PersianRaven]

No mention of Tavon Young?? Shooooooooooot, that is SO not cool! lol......and we need Pass RUSHERS!! Any secondary will get exposed when the QBs have more than 4 seconds. Plain and simple. We also pass wayyyyyyy too dang much. Our identity is to play Smash-Mouth football which we don't and we have not had a swagger since Ray left. Sad, but true. :-(

[Rav'n Maniac]

It surprises me how many people don't understand the NFL. All these flags, penalties and fines are a ploy. The NFL wants something from the PA and they will continue to do this until the players get fed up and force the PA to address it.

It's called collective bargaining and the PA will have to give up something that the NFL wants in order to reduce the penalties and fines against the players.

[The Greek]

  15 hours ago, purpledown said:

the talent evaluation is finally showing up, too many blown draft picks especially in the 1st round.

That's every team in the NFL.....name one that hasn't had a blown pick in the 1st Round....

i agree that every team blows draft picks but the ravens fo has blown several since the 2009 draft. look up the drafts since 2009 and there are not many left on this roster. 2016 does not count because we just drafted these guys so they all usually make the team. no game changers or play makers like they used to draft. the proof is in the pudding as they say but there are also coaching issues and players not doing their jobs as well. hopefully the injuries slow down and we see a more confident team after the bye, if not i hope bisciotti shakes up the front office and demands that harbs makes coaching changes as needed. hoping for the best. crush pitt!!

[The Greek]

21 hours ago, dirtybird66 said:

one thing people have to remember is that for years wev'e picked in the last half of every round of the draft so thats pretty much reflects that in the worth to the team.

i disagree. there is tons of talent in the draft but the fo has made several bad choices that have not panned out or they have let some quality guys they drafted leave and it has bit us in the butt. i understand not paying ridiculous amounts of cash to retain players but these are players we drafted and developed and as soon as they begin to show their potential which works in our system they let them go. i understand several of these players did not pan out on other teams but again they fit in our system and now we keep going with inexperienced players or players on the downside of their careers and we are seeing the results of that way of thinking by the front office. it is not working!!

Edited October 30, 2016 by The Greek

[law215]

No doubt that Tucker is the MVP. Orr and Mosley look like a great pair of ILBs and Young is a playmaker in the secondary. He seems to make a play every game.

[sizzlingdoom]

  On 10/29/2016 at 11:02 AM, dirtybird66 said:

one thing people have to remember is that for years wev'e picked in the last half of every round of the draft so thats pretty much reflects that in the worth to the team.

i disagree. there is tons of talent in the draft but the fo has made several bad choices that have not panned out or they have let some quality guys they drafted leave and it has bit us in the butt. i understand not paying ridiculous amounts of cash to retain players but these are players we drafted and developed and as soon as they begin to show their potential which works in our system they let them go. i understand several of these players did not pan out on other teams but again they fit in our system and now we keep going with inexperienced players or players on the downside of their careers and we are seeing the results of that way of thinking by the front office. it is not working!!

agreed. Can't imagine how ugly the ravens would've been the past few years without SSS and Weddle. Our front office has been blowing it in the draft for years! Harbaugh is overated. And Flacco looks like the worst qb in the league right now. Not to mention how much he's making. With all that said, we're in first if we win next week. Hard to imagine. We're 3-4. And could easily be 0-7 or 7-0. Let's get this ship moving and grrovin vs the Steelers at home, eh!?

[sizzlingdoom]

one thing people have to remember is that for years wev'e picked in the last half of every round of the draft so thats pretty much reflects that in the worth to the team.

Not even close my friend. We've been blowing it up and down the draft for years. Most draft picked picked in the third round or higher need to be playmakerd for years...or at least contribute to the team winning.
Sergio Kindle
Terrance Cody
Ed Dickson
Jah Reid
Upshaw
Benard Pierce
Elam
Arthur Brown
Terrance Brooks
Perriman
Max Williams
Carl Davis
Correa
Kufasi
Perriman

ALL of these players are 1-3rd round picks just over the past few years!!!! Not only have they been Useless! to us on the field, but we've also been paying them a bunch over that time.. Front Office has had this ship sinking for years. Ray, Ed, and Sizzle kept us hangin for years. Time to turn things around and do it quick. I'm still a die hard. Just stating facts. Time to crush Pittsburgh

[sizzlingdoom]

  On 10/29/2016 at 11:02 AM, dirtybird66 said:

one thing people have to remember is that for years wev'e picked in the last half of every round of the draft so thats pretty much reflects that in the worth to the team.

Not even close my friend. We've been blowing it up and down the draft for years. Most draft picked picked in the third round or higher need to be playmakerd for years...or at least contribute to the team winning.
Sergio Kindle
Terrance Cody
Ed Dickson
Jah Reid
Upshaw
Benard Pierce
Elam
Arthur Brown
Terrance Brooks
Perriman
Max Williams
Carl Davis
Correa
Kufasi
Perriman

ALL of these players are 1-3rd round picks just over the past few years!!!! Not only have they been Useless! to us on the field, but we've also been paying them a bunch over that time.. Front Office has had this ship sinking for years. Ray, Ed, and Sizzle kept us hangin for years. Time to turn things around and do it quick. I'm still a die hard. Just stating facts. Time to crush Pittsburgh

Starting to wonder if Ozzie is really a Steelers fan........jk, but WTH

[BigUgly]

Trying to think of a playmaker drafted in the last five years. Mosley may emerge as one with his improved coverage skills, but I have to go back to 2011 when we drafted Jimmy Smith (good in coverage when healthy but not an INT guy), Torrey Smith (master of the PI play, now with San Fran) and McPhee (late pass rush emergence, now with the Bears).

The Ravens have had to rely on mid-tier, end-of-career FAs to plug the gap (SSS, Jacoby Jones, Wallace, Weddle, Doom, Foster in 2014). It's no wonder these guys are getting cut down by injuries; they are all well into their 30s.

[Crusader]

Can you imagine how BAD the Ravens would be without Tucker?

[sizzlingdoom]

Trying to think of a playmaker drafted in the last five years. Mosley may emerge as one with his improved coverage skills, but I have to go back to 2011 when we drafted Jimmy Smith (good in coverage when healthy but not an INT guy), Torrey Smith (master of the PI play, now with San Fran) and McPhee (late pass rush emergence, now with the Bears).

The Ravens have had to rely on mid-tier, end-of-career FAs to plug the gap (SSS, Jacoby Jones, Wallace, Weddle, Doom, Foster in 2014). It's no wonder these guys are getting cut down by injuries; they are all well into their 30s.

Im about 99% sure it won't happen. But wish we would trade for Sheldon Richardson. He would bring SO much to the Ravens. Elite run D, pass rush from a 300lber, coverage skills, verstaility, and almost most importantly....he'd bring some nasty that we SO desperately miss. He would probably cost a 2nd rounder...just think about it, should we aquire him for a year and a half, and maybe more. OR, use the pick on people like Elam, Arthur Brown, Terrance Cody, or even KC or Kufasi. Our front Office has been slowly falling down the stairs for years.....It's funny, it's been years since I've seen the magical "in Ozzie we trust" phrase :(((((

[Crusader]

Its not only these draft picks killing this team but the contracts. Just go to Ravens salary cap and see the top names are any of these worth all that? Patriots and Baltimore spend about the same on defense and offense. Whats bad for the Ravens is "Bang for your buck". Also Ravens have 4 Million and Pats have 11 million cap space.

[sizzlingdoom]

Can you imagine how BAD the Ravens would be without Tucker?

seriously. Right now we are bad. But we will be in first if we win our next game. A lot of your pessimistic/ "realistic" comments are showing up on the field. We are 3-4. Bottom line is we could be 7-0 or 0-7. Still so much hope for this season. Looks like the Oline is getting healthy. So this turn around will be completely up to Joe and John. Joe has looked AWFUL. And John is looking like his brother with his awesome time and game management skills. Also, I highly doubt Ozzie will after this start, but a trade wouldn't hurt. I would've never though so until the last few games, but it looks like Webb is the worst starter on the team....and he plays FS. Big problem there. Glad we let TBrooks go and kept Elam? Brooks playing SS and Weddle at FS sounds great to me right now