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[News] Late For Work 10/27: Joe Flacco Opens Up About 2.5-Hour Love/Hate Team Meeting

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Glad to hear it. Now we get to find out if it was the coaching, or just the inability of the players. I think we have the talent, but something is not clicking. Glad to see Harbaugh step up and try to take control. We'll see if it worked.

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"Know what's crazy?

The Ravens are averaging more offensive yards per game than the Broncos, Eagles and Vikings."

Yes that is crazy, but not surprising. It's clear every game the Ravens move the ball down the field...their real problem has been scoring in the end zone.

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Over the past few years, we have been able to accomplish a lot of firsts as a team. So, when somebody says we've never lost this way or that way ever before, it only takes the following game to prove them wrong. It just sucks.

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"Know what's crazy?

The Ravens are averaging more offensive yards per game than the Broncos, Eagles and Vikings."

Yes that is crazy, but not surprising. It's clear every game the Ravens move the ball down the field...their real problem has been scoring in the end zone.

USE THE TEs!!!

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I am a pediatrician. One of the things I have to teach parents is the difference between bad children and bad deeds. We love our children but sometimes they run out in front of a car. That does not make then a bad child. Sometimes good players make bad plays. The goal is to minimize that. And that is what good players do.

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Great start coach Harbaugh in trying to end this downward spiral which has been out of control. Now it remains to be seen if you and your coaching staff will manage to put an end to it. I certainly hope so. Go RAVENS!!!

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23 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:

Over the past few years, we have been able to accomplish a lot of firsts as a team. So, when somebody says we've never lost this way or that way ever before, it only takes to following game to prove them wrong. It just sucks.

That seems to be the kiss of death for us every time something like that is mentioned. Commentators will says "the Ravens have never lost XYZ in the Harbaugh Era," only for XYZ to happen one play later. It's basically a jinx at this point.

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38 minutes ago, Ravenshine said:

"Know what's crazy?

The Ravens are averaging more offensive yards per game than the Broncos, Eagles and Vikings."

Yes that is crazy, but not surprising. It's clear every game the Ravens move the ball down the field...their real problem has been scoring in the end zone.

Agreed

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7 minutes ago, TheRavengers said:

That seems to be the kiss of death for us every time something like that is mentioned. Commentators will says "the Ravens have never lost XYZ in the Harbaugh Era," only for XYZ to happen one play later. It's basically a jinx at this point.

Not Jinx, but the team Stinks.

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I am a pediatrician. One of the things I have to teach parents is the difference between bad children and bad deeds. We love our children but sometimes they run out in front of a car. That does not make then a bad child. Sometimes good players make bad plays. The goal is to minimize that. And that is what good players do.

Agreed.

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"Know what's crazy?

The Ravens are averaging more offensive yards per game than the Broncos, Eagles and Vikings."

Yes that is crazy, but not surprising. It's clear every game the Ravens move the ball down the field...their real problem has been scoring in the end zone.

Also, the defensive productrion of these teams' opponents may factror in - making it even less of a surprise.

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35 minutes ago, TheRavengers said:

That seems to be the kiss of death for us every time something like that is mentioned. Commentators will says "the Ravens have never lost XYZ in the Harbaugh Era," only for XYZ to happen one play later. It's basically a jinx at this point.

Or they'll say "Joe Flacco has attempted 176 passes without an interception" and Joe immediately throws two.  I have to admit that I believe in the jinx.

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I actually agree with pff for once(I usually hate their opinions),Webb hasn't been great but he hasn't been horrid either.So far he's been just good enough at safety.

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  49 minutes ago, TheRavengers said:

That seems to be the kiss of death for us every time something like that is mentioned. Commentators will says "the Ravens have never lost XYZ in the Harbaugh Era," only for XYZ to happen one play later. It's basically a jinx at this point.

Or they'll say "Joe Flacco has attempted 176 passes without an interception" and Joe immediately throws two.  I have to admit that I believe in the jinx.

Maybe it would help if they say, "FBAJ has attempted 200 passes without a TD."

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I'm sick of the "We need to play better" crap. Stop talking to the media and conduct private work outs with the offense "JOE"! For the money hes getting paid he needs to show leadership qualities. I can careless if I don't see him talk to the media or even if br.com doesn't post anything about him. Instead of going home he needs to focus on his fundementals and become familiar with the wr tendancies.

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Didn't care for the Hester signing when it happened...The guy was awesome ten years ago, but had done relatively little the last few years (other than be injured), so no surprise that he is basically a shell of his former self. The problem was that Camp wasn't ready to take the job either, so if you bring him back you still have no viable returner other than maybe SSS or Webby, neither of which the Raven's would want playing special teams on a regular basis. I guess the logic is that Camp can't look any worse than Hester...Although with how goofy this season is going, I wouldn't be surprised if Hester runs one back against the Squeelers and saves his job.

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23 minutes ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

And now you know why PFF grades are a joke and not taken serious outside of the media & fans. PFF (& QBR) are the Kardashians of football.

No doubt about it.

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Glad to hear they broke down the entire game, play by play, with the entire team. Seems like this could be a good tool every 3 or 4 games throughout the season.

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26 minutes ago, eze17 said:

Didn't care for the Hester signing when it happened...The guy was awesome ten years ago, but had done relatively little the last few years (other than be injured), so no surprise that he is basically a shell of his former self. The problem was that Camp wasn't ready to take the job either, so if you bring him back you still have no viable returner other than maybe SSS or Webby, neither of which the Raven's would want playing special teams on a regular basis. I guess the logic is that Camp can't look any worse than Hester...Although with how goofy this season is going, I wouldn't be surprised if Hester runs one back against the Squeelers and saves his job.

Also, I would argue that Camp at least offers the POSSIBILITY of adding something to the passing game because he has had some flashes there in the past, where as we know Hester is nothing but a returner.

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Just now, VermontRaven said:

Also, I would argue that Camp at least offers the POSSIBILITY of adding something to the passing game because he has had some flashes there in the past, where as we know Hester is nothing but a returner.

I cant recall the last ball Jester returned when he was active.

He usually stands there like a statue and watches it sail in the wind.

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When is the team meeting where the players get to tear apart the coaching staff?

That's like having a family meeting and letting the kids tear the parents apart or a class meeting and let the students tear the teacher apart. It just undermines the authority and does no good. Most of the players are very young and don't know what makes a good team. They need to know their role and do their jobs.

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  29 minutes ago, tbird said:

When is the team meeting where the players get to tear apart the coaching staff?

That's like having a family meeting and letting the kids tear the parents apart or a class meeting and let the students tear the teacher apart. It just undermines the authority and does no good. Most of the players are very young and don't know what makes a good team. They need to know their role and do their jobs.

Very true...People tend to forget that the players work for the Ravens, and that there is no job out there where an employee can openly criticize their superiors and bosses. (yeah, there's jobs that claim you can make "constructive criticism", but lets live in reality folks...) Unless your name is Lebron James, you'll get tagged with the "difficult" label the rest of your career. See: Raven's mini rebellion of 2012, and where are they now?

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Showing every play (a) I wonder what was said when Joe missed on two crucial 3rd downs? ! (B) I wonder what was said when throwing two INTs really throwing the game away? ! (C) And I wonder what was said when Joe did that flop with no one in the picture? ! (D) And I wonder what was said when Joe threw the ball over the top when I thought it was batted down but no it wasn't it came out like a lame duck?! I guess those FACTS are swept under the rug and the O line will just have to take the blame for all the above! The Jets threw Fitzpatrick under the bus and the Ravens are not gonna do Joe like that but Stevie Wonder can see it like I can! Some players mite as well pack their bags because what the Ravens built in the draft and with veterans is all out the window now O Linemen galore in the next draft to protect the multi million dollar man! Smh all because he isn't cutting it! It's hard trying to Govern your comments when it is so clear! Smh! Sincerely The Troll! PS I can't wait to Rock my Tie Dye Ravens T Shirt that arrived the other day! Pray for me I will be surrounded by squeelers November 6th! Smh! Mallet saved me last time Joe can you save me PLEASE? ! LOL

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If we gave up Butler to sign Hester and then end up cutting Hester next week that will just be the icing on the dysfunctional cake that has become the Ravens. We just can't seem to carry out the simplest of player personnel decisions correctly. Every one they do they mess up and we end up without the guy we need and we get stuck with a dumpster refugee for the stupidest of reasons. To listen to Harbaugh and Rosburg talk, Hester was not only still the guy who could get it done, they could hardly wait for him to show he was still great, yet they didn't even test him enough to see if he could come back and perform after missing two years. That's because of their special teams background and they wanted SO bad to be any part of Devin Hesters history. I have yet to see any player who missed just one year that didn't come back and suffer some muscle tear or strain whether it be hamstring, bicep, or whatever. Once again, leave it to Ozzie and John to let a guy go who catches anything around him and keeping a guy who hadn't been on the field in two years and it will soon will be three.

All I have to say to Ozzie is, you better take those draft picks you store up like they are gold and use them to get at least 2 picks in the first round and 2 in the second round to start filling these holes, or should I say caverns that the Ravens have. We need PLAYMAKERS, and rarely do they come in the third round or later (have some teams scored later with players, yes, but rarely and we never have). We don't need functional players because we can't coach them up, we need legitimate first round picks that can become pro bowlers. AND we need them NOW. When you have playmakers like Lewis, Reed, Ngata, Rice, Boldin, etc... you can draft 15 players and hope for a diamond in the rough. When the only great player you have is your kicker, Tucker, then you need a bunch of picks in the first couple rounds because you don't even have a core to build around. I know they thought Flacco would be that guy but he is not and he needs to take a paycut so they can get the players around him so he can be successful.

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