[News] Ravens Trying To Speed Up Breshad Perriman's Progression

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The 2015 first-round pick has played in just seven games after missing his entire rookie season, but the Ravens need the talented speedster to make more plays – now.

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[steelcityraven]

I think part of that learning curve is going to mean that HARBs utilized him to his strength. Perriman needs to be used on the go routes more . He need more vertical / deep attacks - not jus the slants and outs that make up the largest percentage of the routes that he is running. He is a speedster but doesn't get to top speed right now... and needs to be allowed to run routes that will catch him in stride more. Double moves are fine but the quick hitters don't allow him the chance to get going and get to top speed where he is most dangerous!

[RavenROC]

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Had Perriman run a crisper route on the first, maybe Jets cornerback Buster Skrine wouldn’t have undercut it. Had he reached out to tip a pass that floated over his head, maybe Jets safety Marcus Gilchrist wouldn’t have picked it off.

Who knows? Maybe not. But those questions bothered Perriman.

 

Those questions should bother him because they aren't fair questions, both of those interceptions were just terrible throws by a QB who was gunshy all day.

Why would anyone even implicate Perriman in either interception? All Joe.

[steelcityraven]

The Sqeelers can be run on and run on between the tackles. They are fast but not physical in their LB unit. That means that the outside stuff will be less effective then running it right at them and grinding them down. They are also vulnerable in their DBackfield. They can be beat with speed (This is where Perriman can have his breakout) and on the out routes. They are stronger underneath and across the middle bc of their team speed but we need to give Joe time bc this requires more of the 5 and 7 step drops (that require time) and Pittsburgh will get after you. Would love to see Perriman have his breakout game vs them much like Torrey Smith did starting his career in BMORE! (If we give Joe the time and Marty uses Perriman right- I like his chances vs Pittsburghs DBs).

[whobilly]

I hope he can bring up his game. A #1 pick has to have an impact. The majority of WR's who are IMPACT players show what they have in this league within a short period of time.

[whobilly]

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Had Perriman run a crisper route on the first, maybe Jets cornerback Buster Skrine wouldn’t have undercut it. Had he reached out to tip a pass that floated over his head, maybe Jets safety Marcus Gilchrist wouldn’t have picked it off.

Who knows? Maybe not. But those questions bothered Perriman.

 

Those questions should bother him because they aren't fair questions, both of those interceptions were just terrible throws by a QB who was gunshy all day.

Why would anyone even implicate Perriman in either interception? All Joe.

Because it's a TEAM game and WR's have to be more aggressive. WR's who are IMPACT players show what they have in this league in a relatively short period of time, no less a #1 Pick. Time to step up is NOW.

[CQ1]

I see were back to this card (no comment with regard to BP).
The entire team needs to step up- coaches included.
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[Drew P]

Reason being he was graded as a third rounder and they reached for the guy in the first

[whobilly]

Reason being he was graded as a third rounder and they reached for the guy in the first

Last time we made that reach we picked Mark Clayton. How did that work out?

[PurpleRainBlackVeins]

I watched Harbaugh speak and it never ceases to amaze me how much he blames everyone else on why his QB is struggling. When a reporter asks him to critique the play of Joe he either diverts it by saying we all need to play better, or like today he just flat out said we all need to do the things around him to make him succeed. We need to run better routes, run the ball better, block. Now don't get me wrong those things are all true, but to sit there with your purple glasses on and act like our 120 million dollar QB is playing like one is ridiculous and one of the reasons why I desperately want John gone. We need a coach that will light a fire under his QB and tell him to elevate his game or ride the bench. He said..."look I'm a Flacco guy", well coach...when Flacco gets you fired then we'll see just how much your loyalty counted. But ask Harbaugh about another player and he is quick to come down hard on them like he did Timmy and CJ recently.

[Fastynart]

Talented? Really? What talent? Oh, you mean dropping passes like flies? That talent? What a load of crap. Just like with another first round bust, Matt Elam, the Ravens media prints garbage like this about the latest poor draft pick from Ozzie Newsome. How many times do I have to say it? This guy is a mediocre wr from a middle of the road college. He wasn't even "talented" enough to get into a high level division I program. Yet, somehow the Ravens are taken with all his so called speed. I haven't seen him beat a cornerback downfield yet. Just what are you watching? It sure isn't Perriman.

[Raven in ATL]

remember when i told a lot of ppl here to pump the brakes after his first catch? .... yeah i suspected this would happen. Ravens are almost as inept at drafting/grooming WRs as the Browns are with QBs!

[mrc724]

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Had Perriman run a crisper route on the first, maybe Jets cornerback Buster Skrine wouldn’t have undercut it. Had he reached out to tip a pass that floated over his head, maybe Jets safety Marcus Gilchrist wouldn’t have picked it off.

Who knows? Maybe not. But those questions bothered Perriman.

 

Those questions should bother him because they aren't fair questions, both of those interceptions were just terrible throws by a QB who was gunshy all day.

Why would anyone even implicate Perriman in either interception? All Joe.

Don't give up on Perriman just yet. Essentially he is a rookie, still learning. He may come back to haunt us. The question is why can't Ozzie select a quality wide receiver. We have so many TE's on the roster and are not being used or properly used. When was the last time the Ravens used three wide receivers to spread the field. I say this again and again, coaching.

[dirtybird66]

iv'e rarely seen him get open on a consistant basis,i know MOORE has made a couple mistakes,but he's the one i see making a bigger impact,if given alittle more time on the field,he's always been known to play better than he practices and he makes a bigger impact on special teams.

[dirtybird66]

note to OZZIE,stay away from the draft board when a recievers up there.

[jdynamite]

This article really irritates it shifts the blame directly to Perriman. Let's be real on both of those passes Flacco didn't step into passes which was a common theme on Sunday.  

The buster skrine int, they said maybe if Perriman had run a crisper route, so did he go a yard to deep before turning? Did he round off the route too much?   To Write that and not describe what he meat or show a clip from different area to diagram it is lazy.  

During the game from that camera angle it appears that Flacco is late on throw and since he didn't step into it the ball didn't get the right touch on it. 

[jdynamite]

 It just baffles me how this offense never uses motion to create mismatches in the passing game.. rarely use a trips WR. It would be great to see them get Perriman (or Wallace ) some seam routes, go routes or even deep posts vs a saftety or nickel corner.  The few times a ball has been thrown down field to him it's more a desperate heave that never looks like has a chance. 

Buster skrine had been a walking penalty, B.Browner2.0 and they never hit him with a double move deep. 

[The Greek]

want him to get better? start him the rest of the season and make him a focal point in the game plan. jerry rice was booed by the fans his rookie season for dropping several passes and the rest is history. get crockett more involved as well

[Drew P]

10 minutes ago, jdynamite said:

 It just baffles me how this offense never uses motion to create mismatches in the passing game.. rarely use a trips WR. It would be great to see them get Perriman (or Wallace ) some seam routes, go routes or even deep posts vs a saftety or nickel corner.  The few times a ball has been thrown down field to him it's more a desperate heave that never looks like has a chance. 

Buster skrine had been a walking penalty, B.Browner2.0 and they never hit him with a double move deep. 

No doubt they also lumber up to the LOS on every down probably lead the league in DOG penalties.

Maybe a little urgency with some hurry up or no huddle?

The game pace is being dictated to them at the LOS and it's killing them.

[sflegend89]

Blaming Perriman for those int's? Unbelievable levels of apologetics for Flacco's poor play. Flacco's mechanics and accuracy have been terrible all year, this is hardly an isolated incident.

How about Flacco steps into his throws and drives the ball accurately to it's intended destination. Are we really supposed to believe his 29th ranked QBR and negative TD-INT ratio have no correlation to his awful throwing mechanics since the ACL.

Perriman has to step up and should be expecting much more of himself but not because of those int's that fall squarely on Joe.

Edited October 26, 2016 by sflegend89

[The Greek]

I watched Harbaugh speak and it never ceases to amaze me how much he blames everyone else on why his QB is struggling. When a reporter asks him to critique the play of Joe he either diverts it by saying we all need to play better, or like today he just flat out said we all need to do the things around him to make him succeed. We need to run better routes, run the ball better, block. Now don't get me wrong those things are all true, but to sit there with your purple glasses on and act like our 120 million dollar QB is playing like one is ridiculous and one of the reasons why I desperately want John gone. We need a coach that will light a fire under his QB and tell him to elevate his game or ride the bench. He said..."look I'm a Flacco guy", well coach...when Flacco gets you fired then we'll see just how much your loyalty counted. But ask Harbaugh about another player and he is quick to come down hard on them like he did Timmy and CJ recently.

if harbs gets fired he will get hired in a second because of his history of success but i agree that he needs to tell flacco that if he continues to struggle out of the bye than mallett will get a few starts to see what he can do.

[jdynamite]

1 hour ago, Fastynart said:

Talented? Really? What talent? Oh, you mean dropping passes like flies? That talent? What a load of crap. Just like with another first round bust, Matt Elam, the Ravens media prints garbage like this about the latest poor draft pick from Ozzie Newsome. How many times do I have to say it? This guy is a mediocre wr from a middle of the road college. He wasn't even "talented" enough to get into a high level division I program. Yet, somehow the Ravens are taken with all his so called speed. I haven't seen him beat a cornerback downfield yet. Just what are you watching? It sure isn't Perriman.

Wow... So what were your honest expectations for this kid statistically this year? 

- It was already known he missed all of last year with an injury, never got to experience training camp. 

- he missed all of training camp and preseason this year with an injury scare.  

and it was also noted that he had concentration drop issues in college. 

So no practice time within the offense, limited snap count in games but he suppose to set the world fire.  

He's played 7 pro games it's called growing pains. 

Then to say he was "talented" enough get into a high level division 1 program look around at the league plenty of players, pro bowlers, all pros etc come from schools of similar size or smaller than Central Florida.  2 of the greatest WRs ever came from small schools Jerry Rice - Mississippi Valley State & Randy Moss -Marshall and no I'm not suggesting Perriman is on their level but it goes to show the silliness of a statement that a guy was recruited or played a major university. 

[jdynamite]

6 minutes ago, Drew P said:

No doubt they also lumber up to the LOS on every down probably lead the league in DOG penalties.

Maybe a little urgency with some hurry up or no huddle?

The game pace is being dictated to them at the LOS and it's killing them.

The offense has looked much better passing wise, when they've had a quicker tempo. Those end of the half drives when they go up tempo, the passes come out quick & with rhythm and the other positive is the defense doesn't have time to adjust. 

 

During those sequences plays seem to make sense and they attack multiple levels of the defense and it's like why couldn't we do this sooner. 

Clock management has been really poor as well the last few weeks especially. 

[RavenROC]

1 hour ago, mrc724 said:

Don't give up on Perriman just yet. Essentially he is a rookie, still learning. He may come back to haunt us. The question is why can't Ozzie select a quality wide receiver. We have so many TE's on the roster and are not being used or properly used. When was the last time the Ravens used three wide receivers to spread the field. I say this again and again, coaching.

 

Reading comprehension...None of what I said was a praise of anything Perriman did. I simply gave credit for the interceptions where it was due - Joe. Perriman had nothing to do with them. He underthrew the first badly and sailed the second deep into the secondary about 5 feet over the head of the WR. No WR could have fixed that. The fact that it was Perriman he was throwing to is irrelevant which is why I took issue with the original statement.

 

When was the last time we used 3 WR? All the time. Where have you been? Last Sunday, the Sunday before that, in fact the only week during the NFL regular season you won't see us put a 3 WR set out there will be this week. I wonder if you can figure out why.

[steelcityraven]

Perriman was a reach bc he struggled with drops but no one and I mean NO ONE doubted his raw skills and unique skill set. he is big and fast and I don't mean a little fast - he is hold your breath fast.

He doesn't get to top speed as fast as some other guys but he is tall and rangey and when he does run... he can leave anyone behind.

We will take the drops and coach him up on that (look at Will Fuller in Houston. the kid can fly but he drops more then his share- still I would love to have him) but we need to utilize Perriman to his strengths and not ask him to be something that he is not (he can grow into that).

Perriman's skillset is unquestionable... if we are not getting much out of him then it is bc we are not putting him in positions to be successful. We need to force feed him a little and we need to utilize him to his strengths.

He was not a reach bc of a lack of skills (Laquann Treadwell was considered a reach bc he ran a 4.6 something and couldn't create separation- we see how that is playing out) Perriman has the skill set to create mismatches and to stretch a defense.... and he is big enough that we should be using him for fades and slants in short yardage..... We cannot deny his unique skill set we just need to force feed him a lot more then we are! Heck Kamar Aiken almost had a 1000 yards rec last year when we force fed him.... and his skill set is nowhere near Perrimans! Get him the $#%* ball!

[fusuymada]

Why do we always have to "coach up guys" or "speed up their learning curve". Other teams get rookies who go out and produce day 1, other than Mosley, we haven't drafted a ready to go first rounder since...since I can't even remember when. We need a change with the player personnel staff. If Ozzie isn't to blame for all these bad draft picks, then certainly the scouting staff we have has to be. And if Harbaugh has input into player decisions, Bisciotti needs to relieve him of those since he clearly has failed at choosing players and coaching them. Maybe he better concentrate on coaching and leave the player personnel side to someone else. I don't know what the problem is with draft picks, trades and free agent signings. We can't seem to do well with any of them when other teams are doing great.

After having a losing record after winning the super bowl in 2012, Bisciotti is going to have to make some sort of change in the person that decides who is or isn't drafted, who is or isn't signed and who or who not to trade for. I say make that the domain of Ozzie and lets see who is at fault. If the problem is corrected when Ozzie is in control of it all, then we know the problem, Consequently, if we still have issues and Ozzie is in full control we know where the problem is. I don't know but we have to find out soon and get it fixed because it clearly is not fixing itself. We can't win when we have players that aren't as good as other teams.

Finally, its hard to be competitive when you are paying a 60 million dollar qb 120 million dollars. He isn't good enough to make up for 60 million dollars worth of players we would have if we paid him what he is worth, not what he earned by winning the 2012 super bowl. Sorry, its a what have you done for me lately league and Flacco has done nothing since the 2012 playoff run.

[Drew P]

4 minutes ago, fusuymada said:

Why do we always have to "coach up guys" or "speed up their learning curve". Other teams get rookies who go out and produce day 1, other than Mosley, we haven't drafted a ready to go first rounder since...since I can't even remember when. We need a change with the player personnel staff. If Ozzie isn't to blame for all these bad draft picks, then certainly the scouting staff we have has to be. And if Harbaugh has input into player decisions, Bisciotti needs to relieve him of those since he clearly has failed at choosing players and coaching them. Maybe he better concentrate on coaching and leave the player personnel side to someone else. I don't know what the problem is with draft picks, trades and free agent signings. We can't seem to do well with any of them when other teams are doing great.

After having a losing record after winning the super bowl in 2012, Bisciotti is going to have to make some sort of change in the person that decides who is or isn't drafted, who is or isn't signed and who or who not to trade for. I say make that the domain of Ozzie and lets see who is at fault. If the problem is corrected when Ozzie is in control of it all, then we know the problem, Consequently, if we still have issues and Ozzie is in full control we know where the problem is. I don't know but we have to find out soon and get it fixed because it clearly is not fixing itself. We can't win when we have players that aren't as good as other teams.

Finally, its hard to be competitive when you are paying a 60 million dollar qb 120 million dollars. He isn't good enough to make up for 60 million dollars worth of players we would have if we paid him what he is worth, not what he earned by winning the 2012 super bowl. Sorry, its a what have you done for me lately league and Flacco has done nothing since the 2012 playoff run.

Signing the woman beater to an absurd contract negatively impacted a lot of personnel decisions. Add to the fact that B. Pierce sucked it really set back the FO''s business plan to this day as evident by the product.

[ellicottraven]

Why is it that we are on Perriman's case now. He hasn't played great but he is technically still a rookie. I think we need to focus on the elephant in the room which is Flacco's passing woes this season. Nothing wrong with talking about it because at least we'll know where we stand as an offense.

[PalmBayRaven]

  22 minutes ago, fusuymada said:

Why do we always have to "coach up guys" or "speed up their learning curve". Other teams get rookies who go out and produce day 1, other than Mosley, we haven't drafted a ready to go first rounder since...since I can't even remember when. We need a change with the player personnel staff. If Ozzie isn't to blame for all these bad draft picks, then certainly the scouting staff we have has to be. And if Harbaugh has input into player decisions, Bisciotti needs to relieve him of those since he clearly has failed at choosing players and coaching them. Maybe he better concentrate on coaching and leave the player personnel side to someone else. I don't know what the problem is with draft picks, trades and free agent signings. We can't seem to do well with any of them when other teams are doing great.

After having a losing record after winning the super bowl in 2012, Bisciotti is going to have to make some sort of change in the person that decides who is or isn't drafted, who is or isn't signed and who or who not to trade for. I say make that the domain of Ozzie and lets see who is at fault. If the problem is corrected when Ozzie is in control of it all, then we know the problem, Consequently, if we still have issues and Ozzie is in full control we know where the problem is. I don't know but we have to find out soon and get it fixed because it clearly is not fixing itself. We can't win when we have players that aren't as good as other teams.

Finally, its hard to be competitive when you are paying a 60 million dollar qb 120 million dollars. He isn't good enough to make up for 60 million dollars worth of players we would have if we paid him what he is worth, not what he earned by winning the 2012 super bowl. Sorry, its a what have you done for me lately league and Flacco has done nothing since the 2012 playoff run.

Signing the woman beater to an absurd contract negatively impacted a lot of personnel decisions. Add to the fact that B. Pierce sucked it really set back the FO''s business plan to this day as evident by the product.

Don't forget overpaying Eugene Monroe and we had use our #1 on a left tackle.

[PalmBayRaven]

When Joe starts throwing better then I will take a look at Perriman but right now Joe out rights sucks.