[News] Joe Flacco Is Getting Hit Too Much

[KariB57]

I think that Joe's got the Yips. That's why he's throwing off the wrong foot.

[omar586]

injuries are biting this team in butt again. yanda, stanley,  sss, suggs, dumerville, r out , that's alot of talent

[omar586]

i wish we still running the ZBS . kubiak is running wild in DEN.

[The Beak]

Yeah , I realize we have a ton of injuries, but that's no excuse (see Pats 2016)
we are just flat out getting outcoached, Im I the only one that gets tired of Johnny boys coach speak, c-mon JH start coaching like your Job depends on it , we need players and coaches with a mean streak, players and coaches that HATE to LOSE instead of all the dmn excuses.......

[respecttheRaven]

Found this interesting article.... 

"So let's deal with the Flacco conversation by basing it in fact instead of opinion, shall we? A small piece of advice to those who simply bash Flacco or attempt to place the Ravens' ills on his shoulders: you're wasting your breath -- or your Twitter characters. Whatever. "

 

"The reality for the Ravens and their quarterback is that, outside of owner Steve Bisciotti, nobody in the organization's job is safer than Flacco's. Not head coach John Harbaugh, not general manager Ozzie Newsome. No one's job is safer than the quarterback's. Based on the new contract the team and player agreed to this offseason, the earliest the Ravens would even be able to discuss the possibility of moving on from Flacco is 2019."

 https://www.pressboxonline.com/2016/10/18/glenn-clark-says-ravens-fans-wasting-time-with-joe-flacco-complaints

Joe is not going anywhere! I for one, have seen what Flacco can do when he has a line that can protect him. I hope we can get that back. I want Joe to succeed, and for him to do that the LINE NEEDS TO PROTECT HIM!!!   

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[RaRaRavens]

NO Crap! Why is this even worth an article?!

[coreyadams]

Joe Slacco, oh I men Flacco sucks!

[PurpleHorseman]

Getting hit often will cause any QB to lose focus and mechanics.

[DENNYK]

The O-Line is weak link right now. That unit has to find a way to improve. Until then, the same result can be expected week in and week out. You can bet that Joe has no confidence in the line or himself right now. Why do they play to get a lead then sit on it? When they going gets tough the whole team seems to unravel and you know just how it is going to end. Other teams are seeing this and capitalizing on it. Just wait until the 2nd half and you can take the game away from the RAVENS with ease. Now that falls on the coaching as well as the players. They can see that trend better than we do.

[20306cab]

Just as, about 25 ex Ravens D players, who have gone on to sign ridiculous, overpaid contracts with other teams, never to be heard from again, Self Righteous John and Far Below Average Joe, owe their bloated, Ravens contracts to Ray Lewis. I didn't really believe that, when he retired, but it is absolutely evident now. Both of these guys have totally unraveled since then. FBAJ has never been good, only average for five years. A lifetime 83% rating attests to that. And SRJ, does not only not try to help his players win, he makes one ridiculous decision after another, to stall any momentum this team has, each and every game. I'm sick and tired of everyone blaming everything on this team for it's dismal effort, except FBAJ!!

[Crusader]

That's what happens when your taking most of the salery cap. Technically, Joe is getting paid for getting beat up. Not all smiles now is it?

[ibleedpurpleandblack]

That's what happens when your taking most of the salery cap. Technically, Joe is getting paid for getting beat up. Not all smiles now is it?

Look at the salary of say the top 15 QB's and then look at the drop off in talent after that. Tell me who you think we should have as a Qb with what you would be willing to pay them. Because if Flacco didn't get that contract from the Ravens he would have gotten it from another team then we would have one of those bottom tier QB's. Is he playing to his potential, hell no but he's got no offensive line whatsoever, he's either getting hit or pressured on almost every pass, he's coming off an ACL surgery (see point 1 again about not having any protection), receivers are not getting separation and when Joe finally does make a good throw these guys can't catch!! Two deep balls hit Perriman in the hands and (1) he drops and the other doesn't get his foot down. At this point he's a disappointment - 1 catch against the Jets and then disappears.

http://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/2016/

[ibleedpurpleandblack]

I think that Joe's got the Yips. That's why he's throwing off the wrong foot.

He's rushing his throws because by the time he gets to his third step drop he's got 1 or 2 defenders closing in on him. His internal clock has been set to get rid of the ball early. Which would work if the routes the receivers were running coincided with that timing but they aren't, the receivers are running 30-40 yards down the field which takes longer than the 2 seconds Joe has had to get rid of the ball. They need to start running the quick slants and crossing patterns in the intermediate part of the field until the OL can get back to form and start providing protection. The Jets knew we would want to throw the deep ball and they just sat back and let us try and it didn't work and will continue not to work because every team knows we have no offensive line to protect Joe and you can bet the Steelers are going to be blitzing the heck out of us come week 9.

[ibleedpurpleandblack]

  10 hours ago, CQ1 said:

  10 hours ago, CQ1 said:

  11 hours ago, PalmBayRaven said:

They can make all the Excuses they want I am not buying it. Not drinking the purple kool aid either. Joe has gotten (2) Offensive Coordinators fired and the problem still persists. Let's see if Mallete can do a better job when Joe starts sucking and throwing off his back foot sit him and let's someone else have a try.

Roger that, Palm Bay.....Its time for a Raven Revolution. Lets all round up the stale, old purple kool-aid and go dump it in the inner harbor. We are tired of it. Picket signs ?......

This past Sunday was the best time to sit Joe, given his recent shoulder issue. With this week off it would have been a great time to rest Joe before Pittsburgh. With the Jets being a supposed bad team, why was Mallett not considered ? I believe that the brass is more concerned about a qb controversy than actually having a chance to win the game.

Because Mallet sucks.....watch the Hard Knocks season - that's the guy you want as your QB? lol. There is a reason he's been dumped by 2 teams already.

Which doesn't say much then if he's our back-up - another well thought out succession plan by the FO, huh?

[ibleedpurpleandblack]

  10 hours ago, davy_861 said:

  10 hours ago, PalmBayRaven said:

Yes I will agree that Flacco was the best quarterback the Ravens ever had but that's not really saying much. Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl too. A lot of not so good QB's have won the Super Bowl. I just think he has been in Funk forever and we are still dealing with Offensive issues. Flacco is Not the best Quarterback that Baltimore has ever had though I will tell you that. Johnny U is my man!

I said Ravens. Please don't start with dilfer comparisons. I disagree. Dilfer couldn't have made those comebacks. Ray Lewis was in his prime and just to name a few other blue chip players -- Chris Mcallister, Jamie sharper, goose, Starks, Jamal Lewis in his prime, rod woodson and the list goes on. Dilfer didn't have to come from behind

Well Flacco hasn't been pulling off the come from behinds this year. It's his fault anyway because the Offense stalls every game this year. He is the general and personally I think he has been sucking. Don't get me wrong I like Flacco as a person but he is just not playing well. It's my opinion nothing more. We were supposed to have so many weapons? The best group of wide receivers he has ever had and can't utilize them.

Really, the best group of wide receivers? On paper maybe but seriously how good is Perriman at this point? Wallace? Our #1 receiver is on the sideline (#89). Take away the 2 deep threats in Wallace and Perriman, SSS on the sideline and who do we have that's a threat to any team in this league???

[whobilly]

  11 hours ago, whobilly said:

No doubt Joe deserves some heat. Bottom line is that our horrible drafts over the last seven to eight years are finally catching up to us.

Kick rocks the Ravens are known for their drafting around the league! Because Joe can't finish drives do not go after Ozzie and Co! Nope Nope Nope!

Simply click on the Ravens Draft history to see all the roster fillers going back to 2009. BRUTAL drafts.

[whobilly]

  11 hours ago, whobilly said:

No doubt Joe deserves some heat. Bottom line is that our horrible drafts over the last seven to eight years are finally catching up to us.

Kick rocks the Ravens are known for their drafting around the league! Because Joe can't finish drives do not go after Ozzie and Co! Nope Nope Nope!

I'll give Stanley the benefit of the doubt and project him to be an impact player(hopefully) CJ Mosley, Yanda, Brandon Williams(maybe) and KO who took the Raiders money(as all players should.) I may be missing a player or two but give me the REAL IMPACT Players we've drafted since 2009, NOT the ROSTER FILLERS as we have far to many of them. Your turn.

[Crusader]

Watch this offense in slow motion. This is NOT Joe's fault. If you wanted your QB to get hurt on purpose that's how you play. Urshell, Wagner, Lewis, and Zuttah are a Joke. These guys will never play for another team.

[Rav'n Maniac]

“I think a lot of that is the fact that he’s getting hit too much,” Harbaugh said. “He has to focus on his fundamentals and all those kinds of things. He’s making good throws and we have to keep him clean.”

That is some of the most ridiculous nonsense I've heard a head coach say.

"He's getting hit too much" really, ya think!

“He has to focus on his fundamentals and all those kinds of things." no, he has to practice "those kind of things" (called mechanics) constantly and it's on the coaches to fix it.

"He’s making good throws" come on, you can't really believe this when most often he's not planting and following through.

[Crusader]

It is an insult to call these losers NFL Offensive players. They watch Joe get knocked down and only Jensen STARTED to help pick him off the turf. Maybe there is more to this story than were lied about?

[ibleedpurpleandblack]

14 hours ago, designermaryland said:

this is just an excuse for poor play. there are 31 other QB's a week that do not look like crap and are feeling pressure from opposing defenses with their sub par pass protection. are we suppose to believe he is behind the worst line in the history of man? this is occurring almost every year. Flacco is under pressure partially because he fails to diagnose the defense before the snap and continues with a bad play, and partially due to his lack of ability to escape. If it is happening every play, it is even less of an excuse because he should know he either needs to move to avoid pressure or audible to a play that will exploit the rush. Unfortunately, he is fairly clueless pre-snap and he is bailing out by throwing off his back foot or throwing the ball into the ground before he is even hit.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=false&conference=null&role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&season=2016&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=false&Submit=Go

 

Ravens OL ranks 14th, which is surprising to me to say the least.

Do you or anyone else honestly believe he doesn't audible?  Maybe, just maybe - as he has stated several times - they run the play that was called - that's a coaches decision not a QB decision.  We saw what he was able to accomplish in the post season during the SB run when he was changing plays at the LoS at will.  This is bigger than just Joe's play - lack of a run game, whether it's play calling or poor execution and stupid penalties negating runs and killing drives.  Coaching decisions to not put points on the board and taking unnecessary risks only to fail.  Does Joe need to play better, absolutely!!  But this entire team needs to play better BOTTOM LINE!!!

[whobilly]

Watch this offense in slow motion. This is NOT Joe's fault. If you wanted your QB to get hurt on purpose that's how you play. Urshell, Wagner, Lewis, and Zuttah are a Joke. These guys will never play for another team.

Refer to my posts on the BRUTAL Drafts since 2009. BRUTAL.

[The Greek]

  15 hours ago, designermaryland said:

this is just an excuse for poor play. there are 31 other QB's a week that do not look like crap and are feeling pressure from opposing defenses with their sub par pass protection. are we suppose to believe he is behind the worst line in the history of man? this is occurring almost every year. Flacco is under pressure partially because he fails to diagnose the defense before the snap and continues with a bad play, and partially due to his lack of ability to escape. If it is happening every play, it is even less of an excuse because he should know he either needs to move to avoid pressure or audible to a play that will exploit the rush. Unfortunately, he is fairly clueless pre-snap and he is bailing out by throwing off his back foot or throwing the ball into the ground before he is even hit.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=false&conference=null&role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&season=2016&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=false&Submit=Go

 

Ravens OL ranks 14th, which is surprising to me to say the least.

Do you or anyone else honestly believe he doesn't audible?  Maybe, just maybe - as he has stated several times - they run the play that was called - that's a coaches decision not a QB decision.  We saw what he was able to accomplish in the post season during the SB run when he was changing plays at the LoS at will.  This is bigger than just Joe's play - lack of a run game, whether it's play calling or poor execution and stupid penalties negating runs and killing drives.  Coaching decisions to not put points on the board and taking unnecessary risks only to fail.  Does Joe need to play better, absolutely!!  But this entire team needs to play better BOTTOM LINE!!!

a strong post

[Raven1995]

  12 hours ago, Purple Dawg 96 said:

  13 hours ago, JamesA119 said:

  13 hours ago, Raven1995 said:

  13 hours ago, JamesA119 said:

  14 hours ago, PalmBayRaven said:

Joe is 27-27 since signing his big contract. Elite he is NOT. Elite QB's don't need a tee shirt with their face on it to be elite. Why the uproar now? He has been sucking the last 4 years since the Super Bowl. The Offense has stalled all of those years and the problem is nothing new just worse this year. We are not going anywhere. The problem existed prior to Joe's injury so for me that is not an excuse.

Agree 100%. All these Flacco apologists. This guy was always bad. He was carried purely by a great play making defense from day 1 when he became a starter. He played great in the 2012 playoffs. That's the rare time that he was good.
Can the Oline be better? Surely Ozzie blew it once again. In the FO thinking, you can't have 2 great oline men because it would cost too much, so they signed Yanda and let KO walk but gave a below average QB a record deal. But they expect a great performance from the line. This FO is not what it's cracked up to be.

I think they pat each other on the back when they meet. Ugh!

He played Great in the 2014 Playoffs and scored 28 points against your vaunted Patriots, so get your facts straight or find aanother team to root for.

When he is benched I hope you find another team to root for.
Here's his stat since 2012 65 TDs 52 Ints; when you remove the so called 2014 season he has 38 TDs 40 Ints
In the meantime he has had 2 $120M + contracts

Some people don't like facts they just like talking out the side of their necks!

Actually you have not provided any facts other than that Flacco scored 28 points in the 2014 AFC championship gave against the Patriots. The other fact you don't have is that he threw a costly int on the final minute of that game.
You and I who is going by facts or emotions?

He had a good year under OC Kubiak those are the facts, you can't say he was bad since the Super Bowl, get your facts right.

[Raven1995]

  12 hours ago, Purple Dawg 96 said:

  13 hours ago, JamesA119 said:

  13 hours ago, Raven1995 said:

  13 hours ago, JamesA119 said:

  14 hours ago, PalmBayRaven said:

Joe is 27-27 since signing his big contract. Elite he is NOT. Elite QB's don't need a tee shirt with their face on it to be elite. Why the uproar now? He has been sucking the last 4 years since the Super Bowl. The Offense has stalled all of those years and the problem is nothing new just worse this year. We are not going anywhere. The problem existed prior to Joe's injury so for me that is not an excuse.

Agree 100%. All these Flacco apologists. This guy was always bad. He was carried purely by a great play making defense from day 1 when he became a starter. He played great in the 2012 playoffs. That's the rare time that he was good.
Can the Oline be better? Surely Ozzie blew it once again. In the FO thinking, you can't have 2 great oline men because it would cost too much, so they signed Yanda and let KO walk but gave a below average QB a record deal. But they expect a great performance from the line. This FO is not what it's cracked up to be.

I think they pat each other on the back when they meet. Ugh!

He played Great in the 2014 Playoffs and scored 28 points against your vaunted Patriots, so get your facts straight or find aanother team to root for.

When he is benched I hope you find another team to root for.
Here's his stat since 2012 65 TDs 52 Ints; when you remove the so called 2014 season he has 38 TDs 40 Ints
In the meantime he has had 2 $120M + contracts

Some people don't like facts they just like talking out the side of their necks!

Actually you have not provided any facts other than that Flacco scored 28 points in the 2014 AFC championship gave against the Patriots. The other fact you don't have is that he threw a costly int on the final minute of that game.
You and I who is going by facts or emotions?

You Forgot to say that the defense sucked and couldn't hold a 21 point lead, and 2 14 point leads. I'll agree on Joe not coming back late in games if you agree that the Defense didn't hold leads in 2014 and 2016?

[Raven1995]

  13 hours ago, Raven1995 said:

  13 hours ago, davy_861 said:

Flacco is by far the greatest QB the Ravens have ever had. I didn't like the contract either but what was to be expected after he had possibly the greatest playoff run in nfl history. If you run through manning and Brady on the road and win the SB you are going to get paid. He always responds under pressure. AFC north still wide open. I bet many of you that hate him so much probably turned the tv off during that Broncos divisional game. You can call it luck or whatever you want -- Flacco went out there and won that game. Always remember ?

Wow a True Raven Fan Bravo!

Yes I will agree that Flacco was the best quarterback the Ravens ever had but that's not really saying much. Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl too. A lot of not so good QB's have won the Super Bowl. I just think he has been in Funk forever and we are still dealing with Offensive issues. Flacco is Not the best Quarterback that Baltimore has ever had though I will tell you that. Johnny U is my man!

Colts yes no doubt about it. But the Colts have been gone Almost 33 Years. Trent Dilfer was a manager, Joe was throwing touchdowns all over the place and was the Super Bowl MVP, not Ray Lewis or Ed Reed.

[TheConquerorWorm]

  12 hours ago, JamesA119 said:

  13 hours ago, Purple Dawg 96 said:

  13 hours ago, JamesA119 said:

  13 hours ago, Raven1995 said:

  13 hours ago, JamesA119 said:

  14 hours ago, PalmBayRaven said:

Joe is 27-27 since signing his big contract. Elite he is NOT. Elite QB's don't need a tee shirt with their face on it to be elite. Why the uproar now? He has been sucking the last 4 years since the Super Bowl. The Offense has stalled all of those years and the problem is nothing new just worse this year. We are not going anywhere. The problem existed prior to Joe's injury so for me that is not an excuse.

Agree 100%. All these Flacco apologists. This guy was always bad. He was carried purely by a great play making defense from day 1 when he became a starter. He played great in the 2012 playoffs. That's the rare time that he was good.
Can the Oline be better? Surely Ozzie blew it once again. In the FO thinking, you can't have 2 great oline men because it would cost too much, so they signed Yanda and let KO walk but gave a below average QB a record deal. But they expect a great performance from the line. This FO is not what it's cracked up to be.

I think they pat each other on the back when they meet. Ugh!

He played Great in the 2014 Playoffs and scored 28 points against your vaunted Patriots, so get your facts straight or find aanother team to root for.

When he is benched I hope you find another team to root for.
Here's his stat since 2012 65 TDs 52 Ints; when you remove the so called 2014 season he has 38 TDs 40 Ints
In the meantime he has had 2 $120M + contracts

Some people don't like facts they just like talking out the side of their necks!

Actually you have not provided any facts other than that Flacco scored 28 points in the 2014 AFC championship gave against the Patriots. The other fact you don't have is that he threw a costly int on the final minute of that game.
You and I who is going by facts or emotions?

You Forgot to say that the defense sucked and couldn't hold a 21 point lead, and 2 14 point leads. I'll agree on Joe not coming back late in games if you agree that the Defense didn't hold leads in 2014 and 2016?

How can you say Joe doesn't come back late in games?

Ravens vs, Raiders

5 minutes left in 4th Quarter, Joe leads team to Touchdown to take lead. Defense blows it by letting Crabtree score. Joe drives team down to set up winning FG - throws a perfect pass that hits Aiken in the numbers that he drops. He catches - we win the game. 2 game winning drives in 4th quarter.

Ravens vs. Redskins

2:33 left in 4th quarter, Joe leads team from own 17 down the field for game winning touchdown to Perriman. Perriman doesn't get feet down. Wallace drops 1st down ball to keep the drive alive.

Ravens vs. Giants

5 minutes left in 4th quarter, Joe leads team to Touchdown to take the lead with 2 minutes left. Defense gives up score to Odell. Joe then drives team down to Giants 24 but comes up short.

The way I see it, Joe won 2 of those games, the defense gave away both of those.

[RavenSwag]

Flacco's fundamentals are horrible...back foot throws, inaccurate throws, falling to the turf and trying to throw when the guy isn't close to you. Just feeling pressure got him tap dancing smh. Is it me or does Joe not see these blitzes coming. If I can see it from home then he has to see but he never audibles and goes with the play that's called..i don't understand it. Since week 1 teams has been blitzing us but it seems the team isn't making the adjustments like making proper protections or running quicker routes. What about a screen pass? Something!!! All Harbs says is we gotta get better...well you been saying that for the past 4 weeks now.

[araveninwaconc]

  13 hours ago, Purple Dawg 96 said:

  13 hours ago, whobilly said:

No doubt Joe deserves some heat. Bottom line is that our horrible drafts over the last seven to eight years are finally catching up to us.

Kick rocks the Ravens are known for their drafting around the league! Because Joe can't finish drives do not go after Ozzie and Co! Nope Nope Nope!

I'll give Stanley the benefit of the doubt and project him to be an impact player(hopefully) CJ Mosley, Yanda, Brandon Williams(maybe) and KO who took the Raiders money(as all players should.) I may be missing a player or two but give me the REAL IMPACT Players we've drafted since 2009, NOT the ROSTER FILLERS as we have far to many of them. Your turn.

Every time we do get some body impactful after their rookie contract is up they go else where?

[araveninwaconc]

  12 hours ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

  13 hours ago, CQ1 said:

  14 hours ago, CQ1 said:

  14 hours ago, PalmBayRaven said:

They can make all the Excuses they want I am not buying it. Not drinking the purple kool aid either. Joe has gotten (2) Offensive Coordinators fired and the problem still persists. Let's see if Mallete can do a better job when Joe starts sucking and throwing off his back foot sit him and let's someone else have a try.

Roger that, Palm Bay.....Its time for a Raven Revolution. Lets all round up the stale, old purple kool-aid and go dump it in the inner harbor. We are tired of it. Picket signs ?......

This past Sunday was the best time to sit Joe, given his recent shoulder issue. With this week off it would have been a great time to rest Joe before Pittsburgh. With the Jets being a supposed bad team, why was Mallett not considered ? I believe that the brass is more concerned about a qb controversy than actually having a chance to win the game.

Because Mallet sucks.....watch the Hard Knocks season - that's the guy you want as your QB? lol. There is a reason he's been dumped by 2 teams already.

Which doesn't say much then if he's our back-up - another well thought out succession plan by the FO, huh?

Mallet is a good quarter back with an attitude problem thats why he has team issues but I believe he has been humbled? Jeff George?