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[News] Ravens Seeking To Find Killer Instinct

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"Killer instinct"? You have to know what you are doing before you can have a "killer instinct". Calling a time-out before a punt....and that is just the tip of the iceberg. Joe's shoulder.....stop the whinning and put another Q-B in there. Really they can hardly do any worse. Dumervil? The most over-paid do nothing player in football today. Ever since we got buffaloed with that signing it's been straight down hill. We can beat the Steelers but need players in there who want to play, hit hard, and have fun. Come on coaches, earn your pay, make the tough calls. Sunday was a low point in Raven history....although you could see it coming from a mile away. We draft horribily and have to live on unsigned free agents. How has that done for us? Yeah, I know.....God bless Justin Tucker. Go Ravens!

our drafts have been as good as anybody's so that's not even an issue.

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They know they had problems with the secondary last year and didn't draft a corner until the 4th round.The Steelers drafted a corner & safety 1st and 2nd round and are picked to win the division.

The Steelers are one game ahead of us. Yeah, theyre tearing up the league.

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The Killer instinct left when SSS got injured.

...you're absolutely right! All the passion and anger and swagger left with SSS when he got hurt! We used to be a physical team, but now we're soft and teams just push us around. We don't intimidate anyone anymore. #1 defense?? That's a bad joke.

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The 4 losses are an immediate problem, but a longer term problem is having 30% of your salary cap tied up in 4 guys who are contributing almost nothing....Flacco, Webb, Suggs and Dumervil. $46 million unproductive cap dollars, so of course the Ravens can't afford an o-line.

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The Ravens haven't had the killer instinct for awhile since we lost all of our alpha dogs and swagger.
Whats killing us is how old and slow we look especially in the secondary, I don't know how much longer I can watch Webb give a 15+ yard cushion and still get blown by. Hopefully Elam will change that when he gets back. He still has a lot to prove but at least he doesn't look like he's running around with cement in his shoes

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It's not Harbaugh but rather the players he has been given by Ozzie and DeCosta the last 4-5 years. Ozzie needs to be relieved of his duties and he can take DeCosta with him.

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49 minutes ago, sami said:

The Steelers are one game ahead of us. Yeah, theyre tearing up the league.

Let's revisit this at the end of the year shall we? They've just played a tougher schedule thus far and still have a better record. I've seen most of their games in their entirety and they are a much better team than us. They still have the best WR and RB in football and a borderline elite QB.

I hate the Steelers as much as anyone but they have clearly surpassed us. They're a team with enough talent to make some noise in the playoffs. 

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The passion/killer instict argument is such a facade. Likely from people that think this is a hollywood movie and not professional sports. 

Talent + Good Coaching = success

Our talent that we paid big bucks for (Flacco especially, Webb, Pitta, Doom, Suggs to an extent) aren't giving us so much as a fraction of a return for all the cap space they take up and the coaching has been suspect on top of that.

The result is a poor product on the field. Other teams are getting a return on the players they spent big on. We aren't, then you factor in coaching. We don't need a locker room speech from Willie Beamen, we need players we pay to be elite to actually produce up to their contracts. 

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Killer Instinct? More tough talk and spin. We lost to a 1-5 football team.

If we beat the Steelers then confidence is restored and along with hope.

If we lose, no matter how close a game, then that's 5 in a row and call for more changes.

If Steelers come into M&T and lay a beat down on the Ravens, then someone's on the chopping block .

Until Joe plays better, the Ravens don't stand a chance.

It starts with Stanley, Lewis, Urshel, Ducasse, Wagner on the line.

Hurst, Jensen, and Zuttah are getting Joe killed.

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This is what you get when you only draft high character guys, high character losers. Need the people to get down and dirty and are hungry. Just don't think we have hungry guys.

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  1 hour ago, sami said:

The Steelers are one game ahead of us. Yeah, theyre tearing up the league.

Let's revisit this at the end of the year shall we? They've just played a tougher schedule thus far and still have a better record. I've seen most of their games in their entirety and they are a much better team than us. They still have the best WR and RB in football and a borderline elite QB.

I hate the Steelers as much as anyone but they have clearly surpassed us. They're a team with enough talent to make some noise in the playoffs. 

At least Ben can hit his receivers something Flacco hasn't been able to do even when not being pressured. As much as I HATE to admit it, Ben is a better QB and seems to be tougher than Flacco. The Steelers always draft good receivers in any round unlike the Ravens. They also have better running backs. It is just sad the state of affairs we find ourselves in this year.

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You can't have a killer instinct if you have no leaders with a killer instinct on your team. We need playmakers on offense. We won games when we were s run first team, Joe's not a west coast QB.

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Haaaa this is a joke right? Our schedule couldn't be any easier and yet we can't get more than 6 yards running against a 1-5 team.

Oz what happened to the picks?

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  4 hours ago, Rich McG said:

"Killer instinct"? You have to know what you are doing before you can have a "killer instinct". Calling a time-out before a punt....and that is just the tip of the iceberg. Joe's shoulder.....stop the whinning and put another Q-B in there. Really they can hardly do any worse. Dumervil? The most over-paid do nothing player in football today. Ever since we got buffaloed with that signing it's been straight down hill. We can beat the Steelers but need players in there who want to play, hit hard, and have fun. Come on coaches, earn your pay, make the tough calls. Sunday was a low point in Raven history....although you could see it coming from a mile away. We draft horribily and have to live on unsigned free agents. How has that done for us? Yeah, I know.....God bless Justin Tucker. Go Ravens!

our drafts have been as good as anybody's so that's not even an issue.

No can't agree with that... Elam Perriman....

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  5 hours ago, Rich McG said:

"Killer instinct"? You have to know what you are doing before you can have a "killer instinct". Calling a time-out before a punt....and that is just the tip of the iceberg. Joe's shoulder.....stop the whinning and put another Q-B in there. Really they can hardly do any worse. Dumervil? The most over-paid do nothing player in football today. Ever since we got buffaloed with that signing it's been straight down hill. We can beat the Steelers but need players in there who want to play, hit hard, and have fun. Come on coaches, earn your pay, make the tough calls. Sunday was a low point in Raven history....although you could see it coming from a mile away. We draft horribily and have to live on unsigned free agents. How has that done for us? Yeah, I know.....God bless Justin Tucker. Go Ravens!

our drafts have been as good as anybody's so that's not even an issue.

Can you imagine if we did not have JT? At this point, he is the primary scoring player. Without a decent FG kicker, the Ravens would absolutely stink. It would be like trying to swallow aspirin without water.

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Hahahaha...Should read "Ravens try to find ANY instinct".......seriously this team has lacked everything since Ray Lewis left........coach riding the Lewis as was everyone else......gotta try to bring that guy back as the coach.....no drama just go out and kick a** EVERY game...no excuses....Bring back Ray Lewis.....harby is done......jus replace him already....with any of our staff............Stop the bleeding!!!

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remember on 10/12 the article about how the change in OC injected energy into the Ravens offense? I guess that was premature like many of us thought. I hate to say this because I have been a big supporter of Flacco. But I think it comes down to this. We need someone at QB that has something to play for. Maybe it is true what his worst critics have suggested. Maybe Flacco has already achieved what he was playing for. Maybe all he wanted was a SB ring and a big contract.

That is great insight.

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  1 hour ago, gr2522 said:

Do any of the Ravens coaches have the "killer instinct"? Maybe that is where the problem lies. I sure hope Harbaugh is able to teach his players over the bye on how to preserve leads and finish teams off. Otherwise Ozzie may need to fire Harbaugh at the end of the season and rebuild his team.

with the way the front office has drafted these past 6 years i would not put a rebuild in ozzies hands

I feel Ozzie is over rate, the Ravens have very little home grown. He has never drafted a quality wide receiver, look how other teams have late round excellent receivers. Why is it that we either cut a player or won pay some other. Then they go on to other teams and have good careers. Does Jeff Saturday ring a bell. There so many others. I feel the front office and scouts need to be replace.

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  3 hours ago, sami said:
  5 hours ago, Rich McG said:

"Killer instinct"? You have to know what you are doing before you can have a "killer instinct". Calling a time-out before a punt....and that is just the tip of the iceberg. Joe's shoulder.....stop the whinning and put another Q-B in there. Really they can hardly do any worse. Dumervil? The most over-paid do nothing player in football today. Ever since we got buffaloed with that signing it's been straight down hill. We can beat the Steelers but need players in there who want to play, hit hard, and have fun. Come on coaches, earn your pay, make the tough calls. Sunday was a low point in Raven history....although you could see it coming from a mile away. We draft horribily and have to live on unsigned free agents. How has that done for us? Yeah, I know.....God bless Justin Tucker. Go Ravens!

our drafts have been as good as anybody's so that's not even an issue.

No can't agree with that... Elam Perriman....

Kyle Fuller - Kevin White
Barkevious Mingo - Justin Gilbert - Johnny Manziel
Dion Jordan - JuWan James
Jarvis Jones - Bud Dupree
Bjorn Werner - Phillip Dorsett
Dominique Easley - Malcom Brown
Marcus Smith - Nelson Agholor - Lane Johnson
Jimmy Ward - Arik Armstead
DJ Fluker - Jason Verrett
Ebron - Laken Tomlinson
DJ Humphries - Jonathan Cooper

I could go on and on and on. But it wouldn't matter. You're still gonna not mention Mosley, KO, BWill, Jernigan, Wagner, Stanley, Tavon as good draft picks. Nor would you mention that 85% of the Safeties drafted in 2013 were busts (including all drafted after Elam) or that 80% of all WRs drafted in 2015 have been busts


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  2 hours ago, gr2522 said:

I'm sure Harbaugh and Co. will correct the issues troubling the Ravens over the course of the bye week specially if our injured players return to the o-line. Harbaugh is a decent coach and will find a way to add the missing "killer instinct" to his team. "In Ozzie We Trust". Go Ravens!!!!!

"in ozzie we bust" until further notice

Are you kidding, the bye week mean anything, wait and see. same old, same old. We keep sign other teams rejects. If Shareese Wright as good as Harbaugh says, why was he cut by another team. All I've seen from Wright, is the back of his jersey, chasing a receiver he could cover.

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"Seeking killer instinct". "Taking long, hard look at ourselves". "Not playing winning football". I'M Freakin SICK OF THOSE SAME OLD LAME CLICHES!

If no one is going to take responsibility, why this team is in such a mess roster wise and depth wise to begin with, then please just shut the freak up and say nothing at all. And DO NOT start with the injury-bug talk again, many teams have it even worse, yet are winning.

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This team has taken on Joe laid back attitude and John H delusional arrogant attitude that their a good team. I was afraid when Rayou left this would happen. Thats why I predicted john gone in 2017.

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That play to Enunwa was the killer. Obviously, we were in zone because Orr was in coverage against him. You can't cover a WR with that kind of speed with a LB. It's a matchup nightmare and it cost us dearly.

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Could the Killer Instinct involved a trade with The 49ers to Bring Torrey Smith back to #TheFlock

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The Ravens never seem to have to same mentality of, let's say, NE or Pitt - to never let up the pressure on offense (or defense) and try to score every drive. We get a lead, and seem to back off and coast, and get burned every time and have to try to play catch-up (obviously not working). Same for the defensive side, we get a lead, go into the "prevent defense" and we get killed. KEEP THE PRESSURE ON - THE WHOLE GAME. Of course, at this point, I'm not even sure we can, given the healthy players and play schemes we are running.

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I just looked up Brian Billick his tenure as our HC Was 9 years maybe Harbaugh has reached his limit but, whose next?

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The Ravens haven't had the killer instinct since Harbaugh got rid of all the "DOGS" we had on the team. We used to be feared as a team. We once had one of the best home field advantages in the league, now we lose at home on the regular. 7 weeks into the season and not one cornerback has a interception.

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well the key here is that the front office has felt some sort of need to get rid of anyone that had heart and a game changing killer instinct,like BOLDIN,BROOKS,POLLARD,SCOTT,OCHI,RICE and from the start,JAMES HARRISON,the same STEELER that always like to kill us on SUNDAY afternoon and i'll throw in LAREMY TUNSIL for good measure,yeah,he started off alittle slow,but is way stronger in the run then STANLEY.the RAVENS seem GUNSHY with anyone with a tiny amount of problems in the past,unlike MARVIN LEWIS will take a chance on a guy like PACMAN JONES,knowing he's got heart and KILLER instinct.ya think??

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