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[News] Joe Flacco Falters With The Game On His Injured Shoulder

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  2 hours ago, araveninwaconc said:
  4 hours ago, Bline1027 said:

Can't believe FO extended Flacco so he can play like he has. He has handicapped the franchise for the next few years.

Hey leave my quarter back alone Hes still my man. I wanna see you post once the playoff starts and we are never one and done!

Playoffs us, cmon really ?

The Steelers lost so we are just one game back from 1st place in the AFC North. After the bye, and with are o-line healthy again, we will begin to win games and peak at the perfect moment to make it to the playoffs. Heck, we have an "Elite QB" who's a SB champion leading the team. Go Ravens!!!!!

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Patterns of performance equal momentum. We are stacking up a whole lot of negative momentum. One pattern in particular that is becoming quite noticeable and intolerable is the weekly parade of rhetoric that explains and excuses, once again, a very bad performance.

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Joe, you have looked like you need to be on Meds for depression for the last couple of years. Wake up Joe, your prime years are slipping through your fingers !

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A reminder for those complaining about Joe, his contract, etc. ...

2007 Kyle Boller (8) / Steve McNair (6) / Troy Smith (2)
2006 Steve McNair (16)
2005 Kyle Boller (9) / Anthony Wright (7)
2004 Kyle Boller (16)
2003 Kyle Boller (9) / Anthony Wright (7)
2002 Jeff Blake (10) / Chris Redman (6)
2001 Elvis Grbac (14) / Randall Cunningham (2)
2000 Tony Banks (8) / Trent Dilfer (8)
1999 Tony Banks (10) / Stoney Case (4) / Scott Mitchell (2)
1998 Jim Harbaugh (12) / Eric Zeier (4)
1997 Vinny Testaverde (13) / Eric Zeier (3)
1996 Vinny Testaverde (16)

Just two years ago he battled The Great Deflator and his cheating head coach for a chance to go to the AFC championship. Last year is hardly a fair year for comparison purposes considering both his injury, and the triage ward that was the Ravens locker room. Yes, this year has been tough. But much of that can be laid at the feet of the offensive line. They have simply not played at a level that is sufficient for success in the NFL. SIX RUSHING YARDS ... A 49 yard rush called back for holding - and it was a valid flag on Lewis. Zuttah was being blown backwards off the line and twice tripped Flacco because of it.

I'm not convinced they can't turn this around. As mentioned elsewhere, they are only a game back in the division. Also, every single game this year was withing their capacity to win. They have decent talent on the squad. But they need to get some key people healthy, and start having some breaks go their way. If either blatant pass interference gets flagged - the one in the endzone at the end of the first half where they grabbed Mike Wallace's arm well before the ball arrived , or the frontal assault on Chris Moore at the end of the game - It's a different ball game. If Jernigan downs the ball for a touchback it's a very different game.

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A reminder for those complaining about Joe, his contract, etc. ...

2007 Kyle Boller (8) / Steve McNair (6) / Troy Smith (2)
2006 Steve McNair (16)
2005 Kyle Boller (9) / Anthony Wright (7)
2004 Kyle Boller (16)
2003 Kyle Boller (9) / Anthony Wright (7)
2002 Jeff Blake (10) / Chris Redman (6)
2001 Elvis Grbac (14) / Randall Cunningham (2)
2000 Tony Banks (8) / Trent Dilfer (8)
1999 Tony Banks (10) / Stoney Case (4) / Scott Mitchell (2)
1998 Jim Harbaugh (12) / Eric Zeier (4)
1997 Vinny Testaverde (13) / Eric Zeier (3)
1996 Vinny Testaverde (16)

Just two years ago he battled The Great Deflator and his cheating head coach for a chance to go to the AFC championship. Last year is hardly a fair year for comparison purposes considering both his injury, and the triage ward that was the Ravens locker room. Yes, this year has been tough. But much of that can be laid at the feet of the offensive line. They have simply not played at a level that is sufficient for success in the NFL. SIX RUSHING YARDS ... A 49 yard rush called back for holding - and it was a valid flag on Lewis. Zuttah was being blown backwards off the line and twice tripped Flacco because of it.

I'm not convinced they can't turn this around. As mentioned elsewhere, they are only a game back in the division. Also, every single game this year was withing their capacity to win. They have decent talent on the squad. But they need to get some key people healthy, and start having some breaks go their way. If either blatant pass interference gets flagged - the one in the endzone at the end of the first half where they grabbed Mike Wallace's arm well before the ball arrived , or the frontal assault on Chris Moore at the end of the game - It's a different ball game. If Jernigan downs the ball for a touchback it's a very different game.

I could not agree anymore. Hopefully after the bye Stanley and Yanda return, and Zuttah gets replaced by Urschel. If CJ returns with SS Sr. and Matt Elam replaces Ladarius Webb the Ravens do have a chance only 1 game out with the Steelers loss. Heck Suggs might be back too leading our Defense. Coach Castillo has had so many lineup changes the unit has not been able to thrive. The bye couldn't have come at a better time. Go Ravens!!!

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I wonder if Flacco feels even a little bit guilty if he looks at his salary checks and his game tape. He should, because he is not worth half of what he is making. Considering that Flacco plays tolerably ONLY if he gets top of the league protection, we should have resigned KO and taken every penny for his salary out of Flacco's.

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Joe is in a rut and only he can get himself out of it. The O-line is sub par and seems unfixable at this point. Joe can look at his bank account and see why he has no protection. Many of us realized this might happen when they gave him that fat contract after the SB. He struck while the iron was hot and now he is paying for that as he should. And so are the fans that are paying to watch his sorry butt go through the motions each week. Time to step off and sell Fords for a living Joe.

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This game gave us what the NFL has as its most relevant condition. Penalties, fan frustration and horrible tackling. Joe should have rested his shoulder and the O line ought to pay for everyone's dinner for the remainder of the season for its inept running game. When our beloved team rushes for 6 yards and our injured QB has to throw 44 times then we should all take a break and ignore the RAVENS for a couple of weeks. It's like we as fans are on the IR from losing the last four games. I suggest a gorging of MLB. It will set my passion for baseball and the the CUBS (since the O's are on vacation).

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  12 hours ago, araveninwaconc said:
  13 hours ago, Bline1027 said:

Can't believe FO extended Flacco so he can play like he has. He has handicapped the franchise for the next few years.

Hey leave my quarter back alone Hes still my man. I wanna see you post once the playoff starts and we are never one and done!

Playoffs us, cmon really ?

Yeah, really Zeus

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Joe touches the ball every offensive play. He's the one that decides how, when and where the ball goes forward. Regardless of what is going on around him with the blocking or the rush, he makes the decisions on the movement of the ball and his decisions along with his mechanics have been poor at best.

If we can see the bad mechanics, so can the coaches. So why isn't it being fixed? I can't say for sure they aren't addressing Joe's issues but it sure doesn't seem like they are because it has been going on for 7 weeks now.

Fix the protection, fix Joe's mechanics and we may be able to salvage something still this season.

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Joe is in a rut and only he can get himself out of it. The O-line is sub par and seems unfixable at this point. Joe can look at his bank account and see why he has no protection. Many of us realized this might happen when they gave him that fat contract after the SB. He struck while the iron was hot and now he is paying for that as he should. And so are the fans that are paying to watch his sorry butt go through the motions each week. Time to step off and sell Fords for a living Joe.

Joe did great in 014 with Kubiak. We had a parade of injuries and other complications. The problem is Joe can't deliver at the right moment. He can own a Ford franchise partnership with his money Since you mentioned a car dealership> In my area Hamilton Honda has tremendous success with Jesse Armstead (retired Giants) money.

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  8 hours ago, kbman said:

A reminder for those complaining about Joe, his contract, etc. ...

2007 Kyle Boller (8) / Steve McNair (6) / Troy Smith (2)
2006 Steve McNair (16)
2005 Kyle Boller (9) / Anthony Wright (7)
2004 Kyle Boller (16)
2003 Kyle Boller (9) / Anthony Wright (7)
2002 Jeff Blake (10) / Chris Redman (6)
2001 Elvis Grbac (14) / Randall Cunningham (2)
2000 Tony Banks (8) / Trent Dilfer (8)
1999 Tony Banks (10) / Stoney Case (4) / Scott Mitchell (2)
1998 Jim Harbaugh (12) / Eric Zeier (4)
1997 Vinny Testaverde (13) / Eric Zeier (3)
1996 Vinny Testaverde (16)

Just two years ago he battled The Great Deflator and his cheating head coach for a chance to go to the AFC championship. Last year is hardly a fair year for comparison purposes considering both his injury, and the triage ward that was the Ravens locker room. Yes, this year has been tough. But much of that can be laid at the feet of the offensive line. They have simply not played at a level that is sufficient for success in the NFL. SIX RUSHING YARDS ... A 49 yard rush called back for holding - and it was a valid flag on Lewis. Zuttah was being blown backwards off the line and twice tripped Flacco because of it.

I'm not convinced they can't turn this around. As mentioned elsewhere, they are only a game back in the division. Also, every single game this year was withing their capacity to win. They have decent talent on the squad. But they need to get some key people healthy, and start having some breaks go their way. If either blatant pass interference gets flagged - the one in the endzone at the end of the first half where they grabbed Mike Wallace's arm well before the ball arrived , or the frontal assault on Chris Moore at the end of the game - It's a different ball game. If Jernigan downs the ball for a touchback it's a very different game.

I could not agree anymore. Hopefully after the bye Stanley and Yanda return, and Zuttah gets replaced by Urschel. If CJ returns with SS Sr. and Matt Elam replaces Ladarius Webb the Ravens do have a chance only 1 game out with the Steelers loss. Heck Suggs might be back too leading our Defense. Coach Castillo has had so many lineup changes the unit has not been able to thrive. The bye couldn't have come at a better time. Go Ravens!!!

When the Steelers game comes lets see of Joe can lead once again.

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Patterns of performance equal momentum. We are stacking up a whole lot of negative momentum. One pattern in particular that is becoming quite noticeable and intolerable is the weekly parade of rhetoric that explains and excuses, once again, a very bad performance.

Very Good That was a contrite accurate statement.

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  9 hours ago, Zeus said:
  12 hours ago, araveninwaconc said:
  13 hours ago, Bline1027 said:

Can't believe FO extended Flacco so he can play like he has. He has handicapped the franchise for the next few years.

Hey leave my quarter back alone Hes still my man. I wanna see you post once the playoff starts and we are never one and done!

Playoffs us, cmon really ?

The Steelers lost so we are just one game back from 1st place in the AFC North. After the bye, and with are o-line healthy again, we will begin to win games and peak at the perfect moment to make it to the playoffs. Heck, we have an "Elite QB" who's a SB champion leading the team. Go Ravens!!!!!

A sizable problem is the lack of a consistent running game and receiver fingers that catch and hold the ball at the most critical time.

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Flacco peaked in 2012.....now he's just a cap killer.

When you think of it, very few QBs have consistency over a yearly period. Ben,Brady,Rogers,Russel,Ryan, Rivers and (P Manning) are in that conversation. What makes Brady the king is that his HC is a genius and his system wins those games. In our organization, I would say only Kubiak offered a team system that was complete and it was unfortunate for us, he moved on.

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Flacco has stunk up the joint since the Super Bowl win. It doesn't look to me like his heart is in it any more. He got a Super Bowl ring and a mega contract so now it looks to me like he is going through the motions.

He obviously gets happy feet as soon as he feels a little pressure, resulting in throws behind the receiver, into the ground or 3 feet over the receiver's head. The game last week was a prime example. Mike Wallace was wide open at the 8 yard line at the end of the game and he throws it 5 feet over his head and he wasn't even being pressured. Oakland game first down at mid field with 40 seconds, needing a FG to win the game. Basically all he needed was another 10 yards to give Tucker a decent shot at the win. Flacco throws 4 straight that were incomplete, game over. The point is the Ravens would be 5-2 with a decent QB and probably 7-0 with an excellent QB. Since we will probably be drafting in the top 7 or 8 picks this year, I hope the Ravens take the best QB available, let him sit for one year behind Flacco and then cut Flacco loose and let the new QB take over. If I was SB I would clean house starting with Ozzie, Harbaugh and DeCosta when the season ends. Ozzie hasn't had a good draft since 2008 if the truth be told.

I think that Mallet may be the next starting QB if Joe stays ordinary. Rookie QBs that stun their fans are few and rare to find but they do emerge. Of course, the organization has to plan for a immediate QB upgrade and this place is loyal to the investment of its' current leader.

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Whats funny is How those MILLIONS feel come Monday Tuesday,Wednesday,Thursday.. morning! In a way Joe you PAID for this!

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At least we will have Myles Garrett next year. The Ravens are pathetic, John Harbaugh needs to go.

Who is the responsible party to keep and dispose players in the pre season?. That is upper management and the whole blame rests on their shoulders. May I offer the Bronco's acquisition of our discarded CB Stewart as an example. He actually plays better in Denver than when he was here.

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Is Joe Flacco elite? If the definition of "elite" is the inability to make clutch throws to win the ballgame in the final seconds, then, yes, he surely is.

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55 minutes ago, stampedehero said:

When you think of it, very few QBs have consistency over a yearly period. Ben,Brady,Rogers,Russel,Ryan, Rivers and (P Manning) are in that conversation. What makes Brady the king is that his HC is a genius and his system wins those games. In our organization, I would say only Kubiak offered a team system that was complete and it was unfortunate for us, he moved on.

Flacco is the 3rd highest paid QB in the NFL and the 4th worse in terms of QB rating (75.4)....that's not a winning formula

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I saw the special about Peyton Manning on NFL Network, and part of his retirement speech was him saying that theyre may have been other QB's who have better physical talent and such, but no one will have worked harder and put in the time that he has. It also showed him doing foot drills, throwing drills, etc......I wonder if Flacco has that kind of motivation to be the best. That's why Peyton will go to the Hall of Fame, and Flacco will go to the Hall of Shame. Signed, tired of watching losers!

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I think we need to start Mallett after the bye just to see what he's capable of with this team. Nothing bad against Flacco but he looks extremely uncomfortable. Whether this has something to do with last year's injury, this year's injury, or the team itself, don't know, but it's hurting the team. I've never seen him throw this many inaccurate passes to wide open receivers before. He also seems to have last whatever pocket presence he had left.

Just for the team's sake, start Mallett. He can't be any worse than the way Flacco is playing at the moment. If it doesn't work, great, now we know it isn't on the quarterback. If it does work, great, now we know how we can win games.

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Flacco's 'WE'?? He lost the game period. I know he's not getting as much time to throw as in the past but the best QB's get the ball out quickly and move down the field.

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I think we need to start Mallett after the bye just to see what he's capable of with this team. Nothing bad against Flacco but he looks extremely uncomfortable. Whether this has something to do with last year's injury, this year's injury, or the team itself, don't know, but it's hurting the team. I've never seen him throw this many inaccurate passes to wide open receivers before. He also seems to have last whatever pocket presence he had left.

Just for the team's sake, start Mallett. He can't be any worse than the way Flacco is playing at the moment. If it doesn't work, great, now we know it isn't on the quarterback. If it does work, great, now we know how we can win games.

changing QB may help may not. Overall, the team is bad and the injures are not helping. Counting on guys like Suggs, Dumerville, Smith, Sr., Pitta, and Wallace....maybe add Joe to that group...you get what you get. Most of them are hurt and the young guys need to step up.

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Yeah, I agree with most of you about giving Mallett a try.As a matter of fact I suggested it before this game. Joe just seems like he's 2-5 seconds slower than everybody else around him. Now he's getting Kyle Boler on us. And Webb, oh my God.He's almost as slow as me and I'm old.Plus he acts like he's scared to hit. I know there are injuries,who ain't injured in the NFL?

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  4 hours ago, stampedehero said:

When you think of it, very few QBs have consistency over a yearly period. Ben,Brady,Rogers,Russel,Ryan, Rivers and (P Manning) are in that conversation. What makes Brady the king is that his HC is a genius and his system wins those games. In our organization, I would say only Kubiak offered a team system that was complete and it was unfortunate for us, he moved on.

Flacco is the 3rd highest paid QB in the NFL and the 4th worse in terms of QB rating (75.4)....that's not a winning formula

Don't forget Caldwell who we won the S.B. with

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All that "HARD WORK" Ozzie and Co put in to get this team together and now people talking about Ozzie and Co and even Harbs should be outta here when it's all the QBs fault! Now we stuck with him because of this contract and they will gut this team just to cater to Joe when nothing will help him because it's all on film! Two 3rd downs that were crucial back to back INTs and a ball thrown into the dirt that I thought was batted down! Oh yeah Joe had time to throw these passes so blaming the entire season on the O line will not fly over here! Triple " S " had a Super Bowl in his lap but a very very very bad pass that should not have been thrown took all that away from him and us! I feel for HIM BIG TIME! Smh

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Please read the fine print in Flacco's contract because this isn't fair! It's gotta be something the Ravens can do because Mallet would do better than what Joe is doing to us! I couldn't sleep last night because of this and my job is very dangerous! Smh

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Joe, you are hurting, inacurate and getting creamed. Take yourself out for the good of the team! We will not think less of you, but more of you! A change of QB might just be what the DR ordered!

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Yeah, I agree with most of you about giving Mallett a try.As a matter of fact I suggested it before this game. Joe just seems like he's 2-5 seconds slower than everybody else around him. Now he's getting Kyle Boler on us. And Webb, oh my God.He's almost as slow as me and I'm old.Plus he acts like he's scared to hit. I know there are injuries,who ain't injured in the NFL?

Don't forget 10 second slow and Do not know how to tackle J Smith!

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